Talbott on fri 17 oct 97
I am looking for A.P. Green's address and phone #.. I "think" they
manufacture a material for use as a mortar between IFB's.. I am curious to
know that if this is indeed the case how it differs from a refractory
coating and how much the stuff costs. ....Marshall
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Pat Janeway on sat 18 oct 97
A.P. Green Industries Inc.
Green Blvd.
Mexico, MO 65265
ph: 314-473-3626
You are correct in that they make mortars, gunning castables, ramming mixes,
etc., in addition to their refractory brick and refractory fibers. They may
sell through a distributor in your area, so check that out as well.
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From: Talbott , on 10/17/97 10:22 AM:
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am looking for A.P. Green's address and phone #.. I "think" they
manufacture a material for use as a mortar between IFB's.. I am curious to
know that if this is indeed the case how it differs from a refractory
coating and how much the stuff costs. ....Marshall
1ST ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1997)
http://fmc.utm.edu/~dmcbeth/cag/naples.htm
2nd ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1998)
Details will be forth coming!!!
Celia & Marshall Talbott, Pottery By Celia, Route 114, P O Box 4116,
Naples, Maine 04055-4116,(207)693-6100 voice and fax,(call first)
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WardBurner@aol.com on sat 18 oct 97
Marshall,
We sell all manner of AP Green mortars. What you are refering to might be
Sairbond. It is quite different than a coating, but may be something you
don't want to use. I'm a proponent of "dry stack" kilns. At cone 10, one
linear foot of wall will expand 1/16 of an inch. If everthing is mortared
together, something's gotta give. This is why brick doors that are mortared
generally crack. Feel free to give me a call if you have any questions. AP
Green's main number is 800.523-5111.
Marc Ward
Ward Burner Systems
PO Box 333
Dandridge, TN 37725
USA
423.397.2914 voice
423.397.1253 fax
wardburner@aol.com
Grimmer on sat 18 oct 97
Marshall,
A.P. Green Industries, Inc.
Mexico, Missouri 65265
(573) 473-3419
I think the stuff is called Sairset.
steve grimmer
marion illinois
Talbott wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am looking for A.P. Green's address and phone #.. I "think" they
> manufacture a material for use as a mortar between IFB's.. I am curious to
> know that if this is indeed the case how it differs from a refractory
> coating and how much the stuff costs. ....Marshall
>
Vince Pitelka on sat 18 oct 97
>I am looking for A.P. Green's address and phone #.. I "think" they
>manufacture a material for use as a mortar between IFB's.. I am curious to
>know that if this is indeed the case how it differs from a refractory
>coating and how much the stuff costs. ....Marshall
Talbot -
The number for the main APGreen office in Mexico, Missouri, is 573/473-3626.
I also have an email address - - I have no idea who you
will reach via this address. There are of course APGreen plants and
distributors located all over the country in major population centers. The
main office can hook you up with your local distributor.
I think the product you are referring to is Sairset. It is very widely used
as a thin-coat mortar for IFBs. Personally, I do not care for it, because
in a situation such as ours, kilns occasionally get abused, and Sairset does
not have a broad enough safety range. It is inexpensive, though - seems to
me about $40.00 for a 50 lb. bag of dry Sairset. You mix it with water to a
dipping consistency. Bricks are dipped in water first, and then in the
Sairset mix.
APGreen makes a number of higher duty mortars which give a greater margin of
"error." When I called them for advice on what to use to repair damage due
to drastic overfiring of a IFB kiln, they suggested I use Greenpatch 421,
thinned with water to an appropriate consistency. It worked great, and
seems to be much more durable than the Sairset. Also, the Greenpatch 421,
thinned with water, makes a good brush-on coat to keep the IFBs in the arch
from sifting particles onto wares in glaze-firings.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Alisa og Claus Clausen on wed 21 mar 01
Dear Nicole,
A.P.Green is burning in my head like a name of somebody I cannot =
remember, but someone I used to know. Then I looked up my University =
notes, and in my Bennington studio notes, I have written Jane's White =
grolleg body cone 9
Grolleg 40
Ball 20
Goldart 15
AP Green 15
Sand 5-10 %
Flint 5 for salt
AP Green is fire clay I think.
In other notes I have
Jane's White Raku
100 Pine Lake or AP Green
30 Tennessse Ball
30 Talc
15 Sand
Peter's White Stoneware
40 Grollegg
20 Ball
20 Goldart
15 AP Green Missouri
5 Spar Custer
Bennington Studio Stoneware cone 9
Cedar Heights:
20 Gold art
20 Bonding
A.P. Green:
20 Fire clay
4 PBX Caly
12 Ball clay
4 Talc
5% grogg
The last is a total mystery to me. I was there in 1980, and things you =
think you will always remember because you were so involved, get =
forgotten when you do not use them any longer. I cannot remember Jane's =
last name. Well know ceramist and I cannot remember, probably because =
despite Jane, I was unhappy at Bennington at the time. But I have a lot =
of cone 9 glazes, mostly called super secrets, in my notes as well.
See if any of this you can make sense of.
Best regards,
Alisa in Denmark=20
Snail Scott on wed 21 mar 01
At 11:39 AM 3/21/01 +0100, you wrote:
>
>AP Green is fire clay I think.
AP Green makes a huge range of industrial refractory
products. In ceramics, we tend to use 'AP Green'
as a shorthand for one of their popular fireclays, but
this is not their only product.
Like the recent 'strontium' debate, this shows the
hazards of using these nicknames. 80% of us may know
what's meant by it, but another 10% may mistake it
for a related substance (strontium 90 for strontium
carbonate, or AP Green fireclay for AP Green furnace
cement), and another 10% will simply be clueless about
what's being referred to.
In courtesy to those not 'in the know', and to avoid
the propagation of misinformation and misinterpretation,
we should probably try to be more complete in our
terminology.
I'm as bad as anyone for using these shorthands, I
know. (RIO, NephSy, etc.) May I suggest that if the
proposed FAQ's (frequently asked questions) page gets
established, that a list of such common shorthands be
included?
-Snail
Isao & Don on wed 21 mar 01
At 08:50 3/21/01 -0800, you wrote:
>At 11:39 AM 3/21/01 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>
>>AP Green is fire clay I think.
>
>
>AP Green makes a huge range of industrial refractory
>products. In ceramics, we tend to use 'AP Green'
>as a shorthand for one of their popular fireclays, but
>this is not their only product.
Hi Scott, We used Several A.P Green produicts in the past: They
make/sell a refractory cement "Greencoat". We covered the entire inside of
our 300sqft. kiln in New Brunswick 1885.We ran the kiln for 2 years and
found only minimal spider-cracking,easily repaired. When last we
heard,(1999) the kiln was still in operation during the summer months after
successfuly going through N.B. witners
Don & Isao
>Like the recent 'strontium' debate, this shows the
>hazards of using these nicknames. 80% of us may know
>what's meant by it, but another 10% may m istake it
>for a related substance (strontium 90 for strontium
>carbonate, or AP Green fireclay for AP Green furnace
>cement), and another 10% will simply be clueless about
>what's being referred to.
>
>In courtesy to those not 'in the know', and to avoid
>the propagation of misinformation and misinterpretation,
>we should probably try to be more complete in our
>terminology.
>
>I'm as bad as anyone for using these shorthands, I
>know. (RIO, NephSy, etc.) May I suggest that if the
>proposed FAQ's (frequently asked questions) page gets
>established, that a list of such common shorthands be
>included?
> -Snail
>
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