Tara & Michael on tue 28 jan 97
Marshall- I've been using a Bluebird 440V since the early '80s and have
been pretty satisfied. A friend of mine here has both a large Bluebird
(older than mine) and a 4" Venco.
My opinion is that the Venco machines are engineered better and are built
heavier. My small Bluebird needs more mainterence (replacing the spider
between the motor and drive shaft and replacing the parts that keep the
vacuum chamber open).
The venco isn't really designed for doing extrusions in my opinion while
my 440 does a good job of this . I even have the machine mounted to a
hinged surface so that I can set it up vertically for extruding hollow
shapes. My friend extrudes tiles and other things using his Bluebird .
I'd go for a Venco if I was just going to pug clay. But I'd go for the
Bluebird If I was contemplating doing tile etc.
Michael Redwine
Margaret Arial on wed 29 jan 97
Could you explain how you have rigged your pugmill to extrude vertically?I
have had four bluebirds.The original milled steel which was a real workhorse
for me because I sold preepared caly throughout the state to schools,
military bases arts commissions and individuals for 12 years until I got my
first claymixer to supplement it.The only problem with it was a broken screen
that occurred when clay dried in it too long and it was turned on.The
stainless nondeairing was ok but had a weak shaft and had to be repaired
following a friend mixing a 50-50 type low fore clay in it for some reason.I
presently have the 220 and the largest tile exturuding model but I need
some tutoring on maintaining the deairing assembly.Some engineering would be
helpful to get straight extrusions or a company video or a class.Years ago
there was talk of workshops on extruding but unless I wasn't notified none
seemed to materialize(I DID SIGN UP AND MADE IT KNOWN I WAS INTERESTED.I'm
probably manual deficient but I was unable to figure these areas out.I have
not used a venco but the bluebirds are pretty darn great.
Margaret T.Arial
Yost Tile Co. on sat 1 feb 97
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Marshall- I've been using a Bluebird 440V since the early '80s and have
>been pretty satisfied. A friend of mine here has both a large Bluebird
>(older than mine) and a 4" Venco.
>
>My opinion is that the Venco machines are engineered better and are built
>heavier. My small Bluebird needs more mainterence (replacing the spider
>between the motor and drive shaft and replacing the parts that keep the
>vacuum chamber open).
>
>The venco isn't really designed for doing extrusions in my opinion while
>my 440 does a good job of this . I even have the machine mounted to a
>hinged surface so that I can set it up vertically for extruding hollow
>shapes. My friend extrudes tiles and other things using his Bluebird .
>
>I'd go for a Venco if I was just going to pug clay. But I'd go for the
>Bluebird If I was contemplating doing tile etc.
>
>Michael Redwine
Mr. Redwine, I own a Bluebird Extruder, I purchaced it to make tile without
success. Is your friend on the net?, I need to speak to someone that has
been able to get the Bluebird tile system to work. Thank you, Bob Yost
Bob b. Yost
Yost Tile Co.
530 S.Main St , Suite 1734
Akron,OH 44311-1010
330/434-8453
handcrafted ceramic tile
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