Jo Gilder on sat 18 oct 97
I've sent this before but I haven't seen it. Please forgive me for a
second note but I received no messages regarding this matter.
A friend has asked me to make some Bonsai pots. Are there any rules,
hints, things I need or should be aware of?
Jo Gilder
Panama City, FL
Marcy Eady on tue 21 oct 97
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> A friend has asked me to make some Bonsai pots. Are there any rules,
> hints, things I need or should be aware of?
>
> Jo Gilder
I have several guys who come to my pottery class only to make bonsai pots.
They
seem to make them shallow and often put holes in the bottom. Ask the
person who wants the pots what they want. As far as I can tell anything
goes as long as it is shallow.
Marcy
Ft Walton, FL
B A HARPER on wed 22 oct 97
I have a few bonsai trees and am in the process of making some pots.
Yes shallow is the key, and depending on how old and big the tree is -
is how big around the pot should be. They have one hole about the
size of a dime or nickel in the center, and are not glazed on the
inside, only on the outside. And they do have feet, to raise them up
a little for clear draining. Hope this helps!
Robin in Flagstaff, where it snowed on Oct. 11th!
dswn57c@prodigy.com
kinoko@junction.net on wed 22 oct 97
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>> A friend has asked me to make some Bonsai pots. Are there any rules,
>> hints, things I need or should be aware of?
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>> Jo Gilder
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>I have several guys who come to my pottery class only to make bonsai pots.
>They
>seem to make them shallow and often put holes in the bottom. Ask the
>person who wants the pots what they want. As far as I can tell anything
>goes as long as it is shallow.
>
>Marcy
>Ft Walton, FL
>Marcy, Bonsai has very definate requirements dependant upon what school is
represented. It is disappointing to make a dozen dishes only to find they do
not fit the customers discipline. The dish should have one hole
app.1"diameter,covered with a small piece of fibre-glass window screen.(this
won't rot out like metal screen). If the dish is much larger than 12" in
length----two holes. Note: There is even a'tin-can' school in Japan. Don M &
Isao.
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Steve Irvine on wed 8 jun 05
The best part about being a potter who enjoys bonsai is that I can make containers to go with my
trees. The fresh green spring foliage on the trees is nice right now so I've posted a couple of
photos from my collection.
I like to group trees into small groves or forests. The first photo is a small grove of maples in a
coiled bonsai pot that is unglazed, and has just a little iron oxide rubbed on the outside wall:
http://www.steveirvine.com/clayart/bonsai_maple.jpg
These maples turn orange and crimson in the autumn just like a full sized forest.
The second photo is of a grouping of gingko trees. The thrown and hand built container has a
slight bluish colour. The leaves of this group turn a lovely lemon yellow for about two weeks in
October and the colour of the container makes a nice contrast:
http://www.steveirvine.com/clayart/bonsai_gingko.jpg
Both of these bonsai groupings were started eleven years ago from seedlings, and they have an
overall height of about 40 cm.
Steve Irvine
http://www.steveirvine.com
Cheryl Weickert6 on sat 3 jun 06
I'm curious too, if the inside of the bonsai pots are glazed or are left
naked?
Pinky, in MN tho lately it's been feeling like we are a lot further south
than here.
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 16:52:57 -0400, Sam Kelly
wrote:
>Hi, had a look at your pics and was wondering what constitutes a bonsai
>pot. Must it be of specific proportions, must it have feet, a certain
>amount of holes(if any) in the bottom. I am just wondering if you or
>anyone else knows.
>
>Thanks, Sam Kelly
Linda Ferzoco on sat 3 jun 06
Hi Sam,
Therre are two camps: traditional and contemporary.
The traditional pots are made to certain dimensions
and some of the best examples of new ones can be found
at this site in Tokonome, Japan:
http://www.tokoname.or.jp/bonsai/
Check around on that site and you'll see proscribed
dimensions.
Contemporary pots vary from that quite a bit and you
can see some outstanding examples here:
http://ltferzoco.googlepages.com/pots
Bonsai pots must have one or more large drainage
holes, because fast-draining soil is very important to
bonsai culture. They also should have four smaller
holes around the perimeter, which is used for the
copper wire that holds the tree in the pot firmly.
I was in Oakland today at a satsuki (azalea) bonsai
show and saw a wonderful imported Japanese pot. The
owner said it was from a now-defunct kiln in Japan.
I'll have to get a photo of the glaze. It was
luscious.
I'll take some photos of some of mine and post them on
my googlepages website. Tomorrow. It's dark now.
Cheers, Linda
--- Sam Kelly wrote:
> Hi, had a look at your pics and was wondering what
> constitutes a bonsai
> pot. Must it be of specific proportions, must it
> have feet, a certain
> amount of holes(if any) in the bottom. I am just
> wondering if you or
> anyone else knows.
>
> Thanks, Sam Kelly
>
>
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Linda Ferzoco on sat 3 jun 06
Good news Mel! I first posted this email forgetting
to send it from my Clayart email address and it was
rejected!
Never thought I'd be so happy to be rejected.
Here's the original.
I've been told that folks had trouble viewing the
bonsai pots on my google page, so let's try this:
http://ltfuzzy.blogspot.com/2006/06/antique-bonsai-pots.html
Thanks to Mel and Mo and everyone working so hard on
the spam.
Cheers, Linda Ferzoco
Cheers, Linda Ferzoco
Pacifica, California
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Sam Kelly on sat 3 jun 06
Hi, had a look at your pics and was wondering what constitutes a bonsai
pot. Must it be of specific proportions, must it have feet, a certain
amount of holes(if any) in the bottom. I am just wondering if you or
anyone else knows.
Thanks, Sam Kelly
Mike Martino on sun 4 jun 06
Hi Sam,
There are a great deal of rules governing what types of trees go in what
types of pots, traditionally speaking. I have seen trees in all sorts of
pot shapes, sizes, glazes, feet/rim type, etc.. It really comes down to
what pot will fit the tree correctly, in terms of aesthetic feel as well
as size.
One clayart member (and probably more), Dale Cochoy, makes part of his
income from his bonsai pots and he could probably give you specifics
about pot rules. Michael Hagedorn is my personal favorite bonsai
container maker in the U.S., but he's currently in Japan doing a three
year apprenticeship with Shinji Suzuki (very famous bonsai dude, and a
nice guy to boot) so it's difficult to get info from him right now.
My personal experience with bonsai containers is that the only real set
rules (aside from the general 'must be suitable for displaying and
housing a tree') are 1 they need holes for drainage (and I've seen this
one broken at times), 2 they need feet for air flow (I've seen this one
broken too), and 3 the rims should not project inward sharply as it
makes repotting quite difficult (this one too) You may have noticed I'm
being somewhat vague, but going into specifics really could take pages
and pages.
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Michael Martino
in Taku, Japan
karatsupots.blogspot.com
www.potteryofjapan.com
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Sam Kelly wrote:
> Hi, had a look at your pics and was wondering what constitutes a bonsai
> pot. Must it be of specific proportions, must it have feet, a certain
> amount of holes(if any) in the bottom. I am just wondering if you or
> anyone else knows.
>
> Thanks, Sam Kelly
>
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Linda Ferzoco on sun 4 jun 06
The insides of bonsai pots are left nekkid; the glaze
extends just a little down the inside. And the best
Japanese pots have a glaze quite far down on the feet,
no mean feat when you use a melty glaze.
Linda Ferzoco
--- Cheryl Weickert6 wrote:
> I'm curious too, if the inside of the bonsai pots
> are glazed or are left
> naked?
>
Ivor and Olive Lewis on sun 4 jun 06
Dear Sam Kelly,
A "Bonsai" Planter is any container that is deemed by the aesthetic =
rules of Bonsai Culture to be appropriate for the "Style" of tree and =
the setting in which it would naturally be found. Two things are =
paramount. The pot is always subordinate to the Bonsai specimen and =
there must be adequate drainage and ventilation for the roots. I made =
good money from these for a few years by making "Specials" for the owner =
of a Bonsai Garden who taught the art.
You can find out what is appropriate by :
Talking to people who cultivate Bonsai or sell them.
Reading some of the many books that are published about the subject.
Asking a friend who may be resident in Japan if they can obtain a =
commercial wholesale catalogue for you. Tokonami is one of the centres =
where these ports are made.
By the way, is "Sam" a contraction of Samual or is it Samantha.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.
=20
Sam Kelly on sun 4 jun 06
>By the way, is "Sam" a contraction of Samual or is it Samantha.
niether, Samuel
Im am going to make a few of these pots, all inspired with the references
to culture and design.
Ivor, im in the same part of the world as you, what type of clay?, I
suppose firing temp. isn't an issue(or is absorbtion an issue).
Sam
Mark Issenberg on sun 6 aug 06
Just got my newest issue of " Bonsai " Journal of the American Bonsai
Society volume 40 number 2 Summer 2006
In the journal is a great article " Making the Perfecr Pot" by Sara Rayner,,
Shows her making pots and dipping pots all so a nice collection of her
work.. She makes great Bonsai pots. If you have questions about making Bonsai pots
this is the article to read..
Got back from Watkinsville Ga last night .. We delivered my pots to
"Perspectives"50 Georgia Potters that opens Aug 25 and is open Aug 26 -Sep14 Tuesday
-Sunday 10 Am to 4 PM. I also brought a bunch of Bonsai pots to
Perspectives,, should be interesting to see if i sell them, have them in ash glaze and
shino glaze..
I had fired both my Alpines and it was interesting to see how they fire
differently. The Alpine 16 takes more time to get to red heat verses the Alpine
24 . They have the same burner systems that i have installed,, They both
finished pretty close in time hitting cone 10 at the same time.I do love my
Alpines..
Mark on Lookout Mountain going to check out the Longest Yard Sale
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