Cindy on sun 25 may 97
Hello, everybody.
I've heard a little about castable refractories on this list, but no one's
mentioned so far (in my hearing) whether home-made castable refractories
can be made into bricks. I think it would be nice to have a kiln that
could be re-stacked if I wanted to, and was tossing around the idea. At
present, my budget can't stretch quite far enough to accomodate
store-bought IFBs. Even hard bricks would be a bit of a strain. Any and all
help will be gratefully received.
Thanks,
Cindy Strnad
Custer, SD
Tracy Dotson on mon 26 may 97
Cindy.........Before you descide to make bricks, count the number that you
would need for your kiln. Even a relatively small kiln will require (ball
park) 1000 too 3000 bricks including the chimney if it is a downdraft design.
The size differance of hand made bricks even if made in molds will give you
trouble in the construction. Tlhe older I get the more important my time is
so I opt for the purchased bricks of good used ones if I can get a good buy.
This is not to say that you cannot make your own brick, just some of the pit
falls. Good luck.
Tracy
pjomjp[ on mon 26 may 97
>At present, my budget can't stretch quite far enough to accomodate
>store-bought IFBs. Even hard bricks would be a bit of a strain.
If this is the case note that castable refractory, on a Lb for Lb basis,
is a lot more expensive than dry-pressed firebrick.
James Shepard on tue 27 may 97
>----------------------------Original message-----------------------------
>I've heard a little about castable refractories on this list, but no one's
>mentioned so far (in my hearing) whether home-made castable refractories
>can be made into bricks. I think it would be nice to have a kiln that
>could be re-stacked if I wanted to, and was tossing around the idea. At
>present, my budget can't stretch quite far enough to accomodate
>store-bought IFBs. Even hard bricks would be a bit of a strain. Any and all
>help will be gratefully received.
>Cindy Strnad
>Custer, SD
Would you want to fire them before or after they were stacked into a kiln?
The mixture we used to build a cast catanary kiln will make a brick that
would build a good kiln if first fired to at least bisque. Higher would be
better. A castable will shrink a little, and the bricks are better when
fired evenly all the way through.
The brick molds could be made to any manageable size, or shape. For bricks
of a some what average size I would make the castable mixture wet but still
stiff.. Then fill form like one would for concrete work.
You will save some money but you must be willing to spend a lot of time on a
project like this.
As one would say have more time than money.
We put information on a Web-page, about the castable kiln project we did
last semester at a jr.college,(www.mpgalley.com)
You can look here and find the mixture we used and the cost, for weights of
the dry ingredients, and burner parts purchased for the kiln.
Hope this is useful info.
Jim & Suzanne @
TerraShire Studio
4273 N. Thorne Ave
Fresno, Cal. 93704
209 229-8750
APGreenLA on wed 28 may 97
Another idea might be to ask your local refractory distributor if they
have any seconds or slightly damaged brick that they would be willing to
sell at a lower price or even trade for some ceramic pieces. I manage a
refractory distribution center and we always save our write-offs and
damaged items for the artists.
>Hello, everybody.
>I've heard a little about castable refractories on this list, but no
one's
>mentioned so far (in my hearing) whether home-made castable refractories
>can be made into bricks. I think it would be nice to have a kiln that
>could be re-stacked if I wanted to, and was tossing around the idea. At
>present, my budget can't stretch quite far enough to accomodate
>store-bought IFBs. Even hard bricks would be a bit of a strain. Any and
all
>help will be gratefully received.
>Thanks,
>Cindy Strnad
>Custer, SD
Charles Gaudi on thu 29 may 97
I have tried to reach the address you wrote "www.mpgalley.com" but I
keep getting an error message that the server address is wrong. I would
really like to look at your castable kiln info. please help. Thanks
Charlie
APGreenLA on tue 3 jun 97
Ever since my post on searching for used/damaged/or obsolete refractory
brick at bargain prices I have received numerous posts as to what can be
purchased from my distribution center. My orginal intent was merely to
push people in the right direction and not to advertise on-line, however
there was so much interest that I scoured my warehouse to see what I could
find.
I have to following available for sale. They are all Insulating
Firebrick. They are old, but have never been used and are still in the
original boxes. Unfortunately they are all arch brick. However they are
soft and can be cut, or even set as is, with some creative masonry. Only
the entire amount is for sale and they are located in Los Angeles County
so if you are out of the area you will also have to take freight into
account-
G-20 SM (stiff-mud) ARCH #1 3 140 pcs (20 per box)
9x4.5x(3-2.75) (2,000 degree IFB)
G-26 SM (stiff-mud) ARCH #1 9 875 pcs (25 per box)
9x4.5x(2.5-2.125) (2,600 degree IFB)
I am currently asking $1.00 per brick, but am happy to entertain any other
offers for the entire amount. You can either e-mail APGreen@aol.com or
give me call at 310-634-9977
Chloe Johnson
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