Dave Pike on thu 14 aug 97
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for sources for equipment. I have the Laguna catalog, and
I order from it, but it doesn't have some things I'm looking for, ie.
masks, pyrometers. Things are generally twice as expensive here in Japan,
so any sources that have a mail order catalog would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Pike
Catherine Vojtas on fri 15 aug 97
At 10:53 AM 8/14/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello Everyone,
> I'm looking for sources for equipment. I have the Laguna catalog, and
>I order from it, but it doesn't have some things I'm looking for, ie.
>masks, pyrometers. Things are generally twice as expensive here in Japan,
>so any sources that have a mail order catalog would be greatly
>appreciated.
>Thanks in advance,
>Dave Pike
You might be able to find some sources online...
http://www.euclids.com
http://www.PSHcanada.com
http://www.worldsquare.com/storefronts/amaco/amaco.html
http://www.leslieceramics.com/
http://www.sheffield-pottery.com/
....for starters.
Best,
Catherine
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Catherine Vojtas
ArtScape
http://www.artscape.com
Larry Tague on fri 15 aug 97
Dave, I would be glad to send you one of my free catalogs. I offer the
products that you mentioned and also equipment. Please e-mail me at
megtague@msn.com with your address and I will send one right away. Carol
@"The HedgeShopper" (January 1998, new name...Florida Clay Art Co.)
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From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List on behalf of Dave Pike
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 1997 10:53 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Subject: catalogs
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for sources for equipment. I have the Laguna catalog, and
I order from it, but it doesn't have some things I'm looking for, ie.
masks, pyrometers. Things are generally twice as expensive here in Japan,
so any sources that have a mail order catalog would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Pike
Unruly JuliE on fri 15 aug 97
Bailey Pottery Equipment Corp., in Kingston NY has good prices,
1-800-431-6067.
My personal favorite is Bennett's Pottery Supply, in Florida,
1-800-432-0074.
If I remember right, Great Lakes Clay, in IL, has good prices on the
smaller stuff, ie. tools. 1-822-258-8796, or "www.GreatClay.com".
They all have mail order catalogs.
JuliE
Jennifer Rhinesmith on fri 15 aug 97
Dave, have you tried Brent, ART, Bailey's, and Amaco. I will look for
there phone numbers and addresses and get them to you. Hope you find what
you need. Jennifer in Alpine, TX jrhi479@sulross.edu
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Dave Pike wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello Everyone,
> I'm looking for sources for equipment. I have the Laguna catalog, and
> I order from it, but it doesn't have some things I'm looking for, ie.
> masks, pyrometers. Things are generally twice as expensive here in Japan,
> so any sources that have a mail order catalog would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Dave Pike
>
WardBurner@aol.com on fri 15 aug 97
Dave,
If you'll send us your address, we'll be happy to send you a catalog. We have
done business with both institutions and individual potters in Japan.
Marc Ward
Ward Burner Systems
PO Box 333
Dandridge, TN 37725
USA
423.397.2914 voice
423.397.1253 fax
wardburner@aol.com
Wendy Rosen on wed 28 oct 98
Dear Laurie,
Regarding your posting on Clayart... Many artists don't feel the need for a
color catalog. Most just staple a four color post card to an orderform and
pricelist (with line drawings of work). There are several steps to
creating good collateral materials... here's my priority list in order of
anticipated expenditure...
1) Color Post Cards (Modern Post Card $95 for 500)
2) Xerox Color Sheets (50 cents-$1.00 each)
3) Single Color Sheet ($500 for 1,000 Direct Press Huntington NJ)
4) 4 page (11x17) color sheet ($1,000)
Direct Press will photograph your work for you... but most of these
printers will not "match" color well... be sure you can stand the deviation.
Niche Magazine will publish one piece of your work in an "advertorial
format" for about $500...
20,000 craft galleries/shops review the magazine for new work regularly...
it's the guide they use to plan expenditures for spring... before the big
shows!
One more alternative...
Send samples of your work to a few good galleries or stores that other
artists may recommend. It's the cheapest and best way to add a few orders
to your production calendar. Be sure to ask the shop owners for "advice"
regarding colors, sizes and pricing... for your consideration. Get as much
information as you can about why your work will or won't work for their
customers... don't get discouraged if they can't placed an order, it's not
personal...
Retailers don't buy what they LIKE, they buy what they can SELL to their
less educated customers... now how do we teach craft gallery customers a
new aesthetic???? That's one that will take me YEARS (if ever) to figure
out!!!! Any suggestions?
Wendy
Wendy Rosen
The Rosen Group
AmericanStyle Magazine
http://www.americanstyle.com
The Buyers Markets of American Craft
Niche Magazine and Awards Programs
Artist Mentor Program
Market Insider Newsletter (FREE)
Emerging Artist Internships/Scholarships
Craft Business Institute
http://www.americancraft.com
3000 Chestnut Ave #304
Baltimore, Maryland 21211
410.889-3093
410.243.7089 fax
Kathi LeSueur on thu 29 oct 98
In a message dated 10/28/98 2:41:51 PM, you wrote:
>now how do we teach craft gallery customers a
>new aesthetic???? That's one that will take me YEARS (if ever) to figure
>out!!!! Any suggestions?
It's often said that the purpose of fine art and fine craft shows is to
educate the public. So be it. That said I would ask the question, "If you want
your six year old to learn calculus, where do you start." Some would say just
jump right in to teaching calculus. I would say you must start with "2 + 2".
Otherwise the child will become frustrated and quit trying to learn.
Using this same logic promoters, galleries, and arts organizations must
realize that the people attending their shows and visiting their galleries are
at all levels of sophistication. If you don't have something of interest for
the people at the lowest and medium levels they will never come back. They
will never be exposed to other work. Their level of sophistication will never
rise. And.............. they will never become a buyer of that work at higher
levels.
For many people the very first purchase they ever made was a mug. They took it
home, used it every day, and learned the joy of handcrafted work. As time went
on their purchases became bigger and more expensive until one day they found
themselves spending $1000 for a painting. If you'd asked them when they bought
that mug if they could see spending a thousand dollars for a painting the
answer would have probably been an empathic "NO"!
I believe that as more and more retail shows "upgrade" their quality they are
alienating the people for whom art and craft shows are a new idea. They have
nothing for them to buy............ often nothing they can afford. For the
young couple buying and furnishing their first house the message is clear.
Stop crowding the aisle of the shows. Come back when you have more money and
better taste. Well, when they have more money they will go spend it where they
were made to feel welcome.
Several years ago I listened to a tape of a meeting of the committee putting
on one of the top shows in the country. "For those people who come for the
carnival atmosphere, the fun time, and the food....... we would rather you ate
your hot dogs somewhere else." Well, the people listened and they have gone
somewhere else.
Kathi LeSueur
Ann Arbor, MI
Len Powalski on fri 30 oct 98
Bravo.
I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly. I bought my first platter when I was
seventeen. I don't know why pottery attracted me at such a young age, but have
been hooked ever since. Now my knowledge and athetics has grown and the price
am willing to pay has gone up considerably.
New to the Clayart List
Roni
Kathi LeSueur wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> In a message dated 10/28/98 2:41:51 PM, you wrote:
>
> >now how do we teach craft gallery customers a
> >new aesthetic???? That's one that will take me YEARS (if ever) to figure
> >out!!!! Any suggestions?
>
> It's often said that the purpose of fine art and fine craft shows is to
> educate the public. So be it. That said I would ask the question, "If you want
> your six year old to learn calculus, where do you start." Some would say just
> jump right in to teaching calculus. I would say you must start with "2 + 2".
> Otherwise the child will become frustrated and quit trying to learn.
>
> Using this same logic promoters, galleries, and arts organizations must
> realize that the people attending their shows and visiting their galleries are
> at all levels of sophistication. If you don't have something of interest for
> the people at the lowest and medium levels they will never come back. They
> will never be exposed to other work. Their level of sophistication will never
> rise. And.............. they will never become a buyer of that work at higher
> levels.
>
> For many people the very first purchase they ever made was a mug. They took it
> home, used it every day, and learned the joy of handcrafted work. As time went
> on their purchases became bigger and more expensive until one day they found
> themselves spending $1000 for a painting. If you'd asked them when they bought
> that mug if they could see spending a thousand dollars for a painting the
> answer would have probably been an empathic "NO"!
>
> I believe that as more and more retail shows "upgrade" their quality they are
> alienating the people for whom art and craft shows are a new idea. They have
> nothing for them to buy............ often nothing they can afford. For the
> young couple buying and furnishing their first house the message is clear.
> Stop crowding the aisle of the shows. Come back when you have more money and
> better taste. Well, when they have more money they will go spend it where they
> were made to feel welcome.
>
> Several years ago I listened to a tape of a meeting of the committee putting
> on one of the top shows in the country. "For those people who come for the
> carnival atmosphere, the fun time, and the food....... we would rather you ate
> your hot dogs somewhere else." Well, the people listened and they have gone
> somewhere else.
>
> Kathi LeSueur
> Ann Arbor, MI
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