Monona Rossol on sun 8 jun 97
In message , PurpleLama@aol.com writes
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>Because of my family (asthma & lung cancer) history, in the debate of fiber
>vs brick, I always weigh in on the brick side. However, the new Axner catalog
>includes the Heat Wave Raku kiln made from pressed rigid ceramic fiber.
>According to the catalog, the health hazards summary statement from the
>blanket's manufacturer states that "This amorphous wool was designed for
>enhanced solubility in lung tissue. Rats have been exposed 6 hours/day, 5
>days/week [my comment - they get off weekends? ] during two years at an
>average concentration of 200 fibers/cc )200 to 300 times higher than the
>concentrations found in manufacturing plans). Preliminary findings indicate
> - no formation of fibrous tissue
> - no significantly elevated tumor incidence over the negative (air) control
>group
> - reversible cellular changes similar to the effects observed after
>inhalation of inert dust."
>Furthermore, the fiber walls are coated with ITC high temperature ceramic
>coating. [my comment - I know people have been singing the praises of ITC
>lately]
>
>I still have some discomfort because the findings are "preliminary." However,
>have my chances of getting a light weight raku kiln just increased? Or should
>I stick with brick until the final results are in? I don't want to rehash the
>fiber vs brick debate. I just thought this might be something new??????????
>
>By the way, as of yesterday (6/2), the price of the raku kiln had not yet
>been determined.
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I agree with Steve Mills: "In your shoes I'd get it." wonderful!
It is amazing to me how manufacturers disparage every test that shows health
hazards in a product and demand *many* test to definitively *prove* a
chemical is hazardous. But they will take a single study showing the stuff
is safe and want everyone to jump right on the bandwagon.
I truly hope this stuff is the answer. But I wouldn't snort it until there
is a lot more data.
I am leaving for Santa Fe again today. Friday Night I answered fire with
fire on the fiber debate with Mark, but have not gotten an answer yet. Keep
the issue hot 'til I get back please. I love these kinds of arguments.
Monona Rossol, industrial hygienist
Arts, Crafts and Theater Safety
181 THompson St., # 23
New York, NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062
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Jack Ward on wed 29 jul 98
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Dose anyone know where I can buy ceramic fiber board. .>Jack
Ward > .Jackpottery Ceramic Studio e-mail
jwardjr@awod.com .
Dan Finch on thu 30 jul 98
Jack,
Jim with Larkin Furnace Construction, Co in Conyers, Georgia sells fiber
board.
800 898-4532, 770 760-7090
dan finch
**note, Jim has recently donated all the material needed to build a ground
hog kiln at the North Carolina Pottery Center in Seagrove.
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> From: Jack Ward
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Ceramic fiber board
> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 9:26 AM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Dose anyone know where I can buy ceramic fiber board. .>Jack
> Ward > .Jackpottery Ceramic Studio e-mail
> jwardjr@awod.com .
Assumption Abbey on thu 30 jul 98
At 09:26 AM 7/29/98 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dose anyone know where I can buy ceramic fiber board. .>Jack
>Ward > .Jackpottery Ceramic Studio e-mail
>jwardjr@awod.com .
>---------------
Dear Jack,
A couple years ago when I took over the ABBEY POTTERY Studio, I found
myself in need of new ceramic board. I had some leads from the former
potter and soon found some at this address: You might try.....
Fire Brick Supply Co.
1407 Marshall Avenue
St. Paul, Minnesota
55104
Phone 612-646-1311.
Besides getting kaowool in bulk , I believe they will custom cut to size?
or maybe I ordered a larger piece - I think that is what I did and cut the
several sizes I needed for burner dampers/chimney dampers. I think the
commercial or trade name for what you are looking for is refered to as (M
Board) ?
I fire 45 cu. ft gas kiln/reduction/down draught /stoneware & porcealin
clays. Firing to around cone 9 - 10.
So many people at Clayart have been so much help to me I hope I can be of
help to another potter too. Good Luck. Let me know how things work out
for you and if you have any questions feel free to correspond.
Llewellyn Kouba
ABBEY POTTERY
Andrew Lubow on thu 30 jul 98
Ceramic Supply of NY & NJ (973) 340-3005, cersupnynj@aol.com, carries
something they call Insulating Board for "2300 degrees F. High Strength,
abrasion and flame wash resistant; use inside and outside
BORD14 24X36 inch X 1/4 inch thick $20.00
BORD12 24x36 inch x 1/2 inch thick $31.50
It cant be shipped by UPS"
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Ward
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 8:26 AM
Subject: Ceramic fiber board
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dose anyone know where I can buy ceramic fiber board. .>Jack
>Ward > .Jackpottery Ceramic Studio e-mail
>jwardjr@awod.com .
>
Jim Bozeman on thu 30 jul 98
Jack, Willco out of Asheville, NC sells ceramic fiber board. I don't
have their number on hand, try information. The area code is 828. Jim
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David Gordon on thu 30 jul 98
There are a number of outlets for fiber board. I've ordered mine in the past
from Mark Ward. He's very good to work with.
Address: Ward Burner Systems, PO Box 333, Dandridge, TN 37725.
(423) 397-2914, wardburner@aol.com.
David Gordon
Seguin, Tx.
Tom Wirt on thu 30 jul 98
>Dose anyone know where I can buy ceramic fiber board. .>Jack
>Ward > .Jackpottery Ceramic Studio e-mail
Jack
There is a great ceramic fiber tile backing board called Ultraboard. It's
about
1/4 inch thick, quite stiff and very dense. I've used it as a work top on
wedging tables and work tables. It's much like the old asbestos board.
Slightly absorptive, it makes a great wedging surface. For work and wedging
tables I mount it on a 2x12 table top to avoid any chance of flex.
Last contact source I had was
Eternit Inc.
PO box 679
Blandon PA 19510
1-800 233 3155
215 926 0100
They can give you the name of a dealer nearest you....usually a tile shop or
building supply firm
Tom Wirt
Clay Coyote Pottery
Hutchinson MN
claypot@hutchtel.net
judy motzkin on fri 31 jul 98
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:26:17 EDT
From: Jack Ward
Subject: Ceramic fiber board
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message----------------------------
Dose anyone know where I can buy ceramic fiber board.
..>Jack
Ward > .Jackpottery Ceramic
Studio e-mail
jwardjr@awod.com
I have bought ceramic fiber board at Cutter. Although Cutter Ceramics
no longer supplies us with pottery stuff, the refractories business
still exists in Waltham, Ma.
Judy
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lpskeen on fri 31 jul 98
> >Dose anyone know where I can buy ceramic fiber board. .>Jack
> >Ward > .Jackpottery Ceramic Studio e-mail
What IS ceramic fiber board? Is this a fireproof drywall substitute?
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"We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful
words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of
the good people." -- Dr. M. L. King, Jr. 4/16/63
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