Frank Tucker on sat 9 aug 97
At 08:54 AM 8/8/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>You paid, you bought and you used. It works or it doesn't. If it doesn't,
>hard and quick its tough darts. If it does, consider your self lucky. Most
>wet/dry clay blenders don't test their raw materials, or even any fired
>samples. Suck it up and move on and stop whining. Its the nature of the
>product/business.
>
>
>Well I promised Ron Roy that I would not get into this discussion but I
can't shut up any longer.When I think of the literally thousands of test
bars of raw materials and finished clays that Liz Willoughby makes for us
and Ron Roy evaluates for us every year,it drives me crazy to be lumped in
with those clay producers who have no testing program.I cannot accept the
notion that you must consider yourself lucky if you happen to get a good
batch of clay.That is nonsense.If you buy commercially produced clay ask
about the testing procedure.Ask to see the lab.Ask to see the clay being
made.Meet the clay mixer.Meet the lab staff.Become knowledgable.Test you
own clay so you really get to know it.
Frank Tucker
Tucker's Pottery Supplies Inc.
Cone Art Kilns Inc.
Tony Hansen on mon 11 aug 97
> When I think of the literally thousands of test
> bars of raw materials and finished clays that Liz Willoughby makes for us
> and Ron Roy evaluates for us every year,it drives me crazy to be lumped in
> with those clay producers who have no testing program.I cannot accept the
> notion that you must consider yourself lucky if you happen to get a good
> batch of clay.That is nonsense.If you buy commercially produced clay ask
> about the testing procedure.Ask to see the lab.Ask to see the clay being
> made.Meet the clay mixer.Meet the lab staff.Become knowledgable.Test you
> own clay so you really get to know it.
I second that. I'm glad you spoke up Frank.
I would add:
Ask to see the specifications on your clay body, that is, a data sheet
that shows what the physical properties are supposed to be.
Read the code number off your box of clay and ask to see the test
results
on that run and compare with the specifications.
Impossible! I know of one company can give this information to
you via email, fax, phone.
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T o n y H a n s e n, I M C thansen@digitalfire.com
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Maid O'Mud on sat 22 dec 01
Jonathon Kaplan said in part:
"No supplier is willing to take all the necessary steps to provide a =
defect free clay body. Well, some do a better job than others. "
I would like to comment on this. As we all know, even the best supplier =
of anything (that includes we potters as we supply stores) can goof up =
once in a while. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I don't =
judge a company on how it handles sales, I judge a company on how it =
handles problems.
I proudly use Tucker clay bodies. There has been the odd problem over =
the years, and Tuckers has handled all queries with speed and grace. I =
recommend that anyone looking for consistency in their clay, and service =
to boot! look at purchasing from Tuckers.
Merry christmas to all!
Sam
Maid O'Mud Pottery
Melbourne, Ontario CANADA
"Effort does not always
equal output" sam, 1999
Ceramic Design Group on sat 22 dec 01
on 12/22/01 3:28 PM, Maid O'Mud at scuttell@ODY.CA wrote:
> Jonathon Kaplan said in part:
>
> "No supplier is willing to take all the necessary steps to provide a defect
> free clay body. Well, some do a better job than others. "
>
> I would like to comment on this. As we all know, even the best supplier of
> anything (that includes we potters as we supply stores) can goof up once in a
> while. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I don't judge a company
> on how it handles sales, I judge a company on how it handles problems.
>
> I proudly use Tucker clay bodies. There has been the odd problem over the
> years, and Tuckers has handled all queries with speed and grace. I recommend
> that anyone looking for consistency in their clay, and service to boot! look
> at purchasing from Tuckers.
Yes, I would also agree. Tuckers is one of the suppliers at the top of many
potters lists for both service and quality.
I am sure many potters in the lower 48 would purchase Frank's products if
the inbound freight were not as prohibitive as it is for some.
Thanks for your comment!
Best
Jonathan
--
Jonathan Kaplan
CERAMIC DESIGN GROUP
PO Box 775112
Steamboat Springs, CO 80577
(970) 879-9139
info@ceramicdesigngroup.net
www.ceramicdesigngroup.net
Greg Skwira on sun 23 dec 01
On the topic of clay suppliers, I'd like to put in a
good word for Axner. They're good people with a good
product who stand behind what they sell.
Happy holidays, clay people.
--Greg Skwira in Michigan
> Jonathon Kaplan said in part:
>
> "No supplier is willing to take all the necessary steps to provide a defect free
> clay body. Well, some do a better job than others. "
>
> I would like to comment on this. As we all know, even the best supplier of
> anything (that includes we potters as we supply stores) can goof up once in a
> while. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I don't judge a company on
> how it handles sales, I judge a company on how it handles problems.
>
> I proudly use Tucker clay bodies. There has been the odd problem over the
> years, and Tuckers has handled all queries with speed and grace. I recommend
> that anyone looking for consistency in their clay, and service to boot! look at
> purchasing from Tuckers.
>
> Merry christmas to all!
>
>
> Sam
> Maid O'Mud Pottery
> Melbourne, Ontario CANADA
>
> "Effort does not always
> equal output" sam, 1999
>
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