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mel jacobson on sun 11 aug 96

i am trying to send a photo to chile on the internet and i cannot get it to
work..it need a personal note from a computer head with some help. (i have
tried tech help with my service, and a note to eudora, but not a response.)
so....it is not about clay or pots, but a picture of a pot... i quess i just
don't understand attachments very well. are you out there? mel,
potter19@popmail.skypoint.com

John Moir on mon 12 aug 96

mel jacobson wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> i am trying to send a photo to chile on the internet and i cannot get it to
> work..it need a personal note from a computer head with some help. (i have
> tried tech help with my service, and a note to eudora, but not a response.)
> so....it is not about clay or pots, but a picture of a pot... i quess i just
> don't understand attachments very well. are you out there? mel,
> potter19@popmail.skypoint.comHi
You need to get the picture/photo digitised (scanned) into a picture
format usually with an extension from pcx/jpg/tga/gif. When it is a file
use eudora and use Ctrl-H to bring up the "file find box" to locate the
file to attach. The only difficulty is to get the file itself made.

HTH
Cheers
John
--
Actrix Networks Limited Internet Service Providers.

David Rainbolt on mon 12 aug 96

John wrote
>
> You need to get the picture/photo digitised (scanned) into a picture
> format usually with an extension from pcx/jpg/tga/gif. When it is a file
> use eudora and use Ctrl-H to bring up the "file find box" to locate the
> file to attach. The only difficulty is to get the file itself made.
>
You also need to make sure that you encode your picture with an encoding
that the reciever can decode. The basic format for most attachments
probably should be uue since it most widely used. I know some mail
packages encode such attachments as base64, which can be a real pain to
decode if you don't have the decoding program handy. It should be
something both of you can easily use.


Bolt "Marta talks about sensuality, but I don't think
bolt@iglou.com she'd know sensuality if it bit her on the ass."
drainbol@indiana.edu from "Deeper Thoughts"
drrainbo@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu By Jack Handey
http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~drainbol/home.html

Jon Anderson on mon 12 aug 96

At 08:43 PM 8/11/96 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>i am trying to send a photo to chile on the internet and i cannot get it to
>work..it need a personal note from a computer head with some help. (i have
>tried tech help with my service, and a note to eudora, but not a response.)
>so....it is not about clay or pots, but a picture of a pot... i quess i just
>don't understand attachments very well. are you out there? mel,
>potter19@popmail.skypoint.com
>
>Hello Mel, Jon Anderson here.two things, have your picture in jpeg (the
other formats take to long to send) and alot of the problem could be just
the fact were you are sending it, I converse with a friend in Argentina and
I often have problems in the process. The other infomation you recieved is
good information I just wanted to add this bit.
I'm getting ready for the Mn Renaisance so I've been busy. Good luck with
your pics.

jba


jba@ix.netcom.com
*************************
This is my page for my Hand Blown
Glass and Pottery.... please enjoy!
http://www.aeinc.com:80/web/jba/index.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

John Moir on tue 13 aug 96

David Rainbolt wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> John wrote
> >
> > You need to get the picture/photo digitised (scanned) into a picture
> > format usually with an extension from pcx/jpg/tga/gif. When it is a file
> > use eudora and use Ctrl-H to bring up the "file find box" to locate the
> > file to attach. The only difficulty is to get the file itself made.
> >
> You also need to make sure that you encode your picture with an encoding
> that the reciever can decode. The basic format for most attachments
> probably should be uue since it most widely used. I know some mail
> packages encode such attachments as base64, which can be a real pain to
> decode if you don't have the decoding program handy. It should be
> something both of you can easily use.

David I agree with you. However:

The original premise was using Eudora/Netscape both of which handle binary files
automatically. Base64 decoding is most easily done with a utility called MUNPAC
I agree that UUencoding is the one to use if you need to send only text/ascii fi

UUDECODE/UUENCODE are the complementary utilities for this process. However as
binary to text encoding utilities increase the file size considerably if you can
transmit/receive the binary files this is the best option. Jpeg files (with JPG
extension) are the smallest easily usable files but they do use a lossy compress
routine which derogates the image, although that is probably unimportant:-)


>
> Bolt "Marta talks about sensuality, but I don't think
> bolt@iglou.com she'd know sensuality if it bit her on the ass."
> drainbol@indiana.edu from "Deeper Thoughts"
> drrainbo@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu By Jack Handey
> http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~drainbol/home.html

Use of Eudora /Netscape using attached files:

The location of the file depends on the program used. Eudora has an "attachment
directory that you have to set. Choose "Special" then "Configuration" Check the
autoreceive attachment box and use the dialog box that appears to put in the
appropriate directory. Read these files with Notebook which is the one normally
used for reading straight ascii/text files.

When you use netscape as a reader there is a dialog box that appears when you
choose "Save As" Ctrl-S is the shortcut. The default is called "inbox" with no
extension. You need to make up a filename and note where the file will be store
on the machine. It may pay to make a new subdirectory/folder in the directory yo
use for your internet activity so that they are easily findable later.:-) In
Netscape just clicking on the attachment box converts the file and presents it
for reading immediately.


HTH

Cheers
John



--
Actrix Networks Limited Internet Service Providers.

Emily Pearlman on tue 13 aug 96

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>i am trying to send a photo to chile on the internet and i cannot get it to
>work..it need a personal note from a computer head with some help. (i have
>tried tech help with my service, and a note to eudora, but not a response.)
>so....it is not about clay or pots, but a picture of a pot... i quess i just
>don't understand attachments very well. are you out there? mel,
>potter19@popmail.skypoint.com

Hi Mel:

Im rather computer illiterate and have managed to send phtoto's as follows:
I have a Mac and one of my programs (Clarisworks) comes with something
called Clip Art. So, the first thing I do is save the photo as Clip Art
and put it in my clipart folder. Then with Eudora I select attach document
from the message menu and when the computer ask my what document I select
my clipart folder and then the specific photo. I dont really understand
what the others wrote to you.

Emily

Emily Pearlman-Pottery (clayfeat@echonyc.com)
http://206.4.28.2/emilypearlman

Keith Chervenak on mon 19 aug 96

Hi All,

I need some help from someone who is more computer savvy than me.
I want to give a brief presentation to my guild about the world of clay on
the www. Since I will not be able to do this online I was hoping to record
from my macintosh onto a vcr and then replay the tape to the group. Does
anyone know of a way to take the image on computer screen and record it
onto a vhs tape? It seems like it should be a simple matter but as I have
learned, nothing is ever simple! Thanks in advance-

Keith

John Bobeda on wed 21 aug 96

>



Keith stated..............................................................
>
> I need some help from someone who is more computer savvy than me.
>I want to give a brief presentation to my guild about the world of clay on
>the www. Since I will not be able to do this online I was hoping to record
>from my macintosh onto a vcr and then replay the tape to the group. Does
>anyone know of a way to take the image on computer screen and record it
>onto a vhs tape? It seems like it should be a simple matter but as I have
>learned, nothing is ever simple! Thanks in advance-
>
>Keith
>.-

Keith,

It can be a simple matter, IF you have VIDEO OUT or a video board
for your system with a composit video out. The Mac 8500 and 9500 both have
this capacity built into the system hardware. The signal from these
computers is RGB to composit video which vhs recorders and videocameras can
record.

I am doing this very thing that you wish to do for your guild. I
started with a Mac LC III with a computer eyes board that I used for video
in, and Televeyes which gives me composit video out. That worked fine but
I later went to an 8500 which has the hardware built in.



Method #1

Take your computer to the presentation and
Make a HTML presentation in advance;
(a little prep time required)

Another method is to download the html files from each site and
copy each graphic image and reconstruct the site on your hard disk and play
it back through your browser off line for your presentation. The view
source under the VIEW menu item on your browser will allow for this.

Make a folder for each site, save all the files for the site in the
folder, don't change any file names and you won't have to fool with html
code!

Load the file/folder into your browser under the FILE menu item on
the menu bar and you have the site! you can browse the site off line but
if you try the links of course, they will want to take you elsewhere and
your browser will not like it unless those files are present.


Method #2

Take you computer to the presentation and
Make a simple PICT presentation in advance;
( Lots of prep time required)

Another cheap,low tec, and simple way of showing sites off line
would be to take a series of screen snapshots if you have a mac, and save
them to a disk and put them into a "slide show" or presentation program.
To get a screen shot use the key combination of COMMAND key SHIFT key and
3 key and you will hear a click like the shutter of a camera. (you have a
Mac!...for those who have a PC, I don't know if it's possible).

Open your system folder and your snapshots will be listed as picture 1 ,
and so on.(you can rename them any name you wish) These are pict files and
can be loaded into any graphics program that can read a pict file. Some
screen savers have a simple picture show feature...there are also some
freeware and shareware programs out there that will do the job. Apple may
include something in system 7, that will provide a PICT show, but I don't
use any so, I don't remember for sure.

Other ClayArters may have even better ways of doing this, (beats
holding a candle in front of a slide).

Some folks may not like you "stealing" their images, but they could
be contacted for permission...or you could take the stance that it is
public information and you do not intend to infringe on their copyrights
(fair use).

Hopefully the owners of sites you choose to "show off" will be
happy to have the exposure.

Don't charge any money for the presentation and you should be OK.

Good Luck!

John Bobeda
Ceramics Instructor
Cabrillo College
Aptos, CA

Any more questions contact me at jobobeda@cruzio.com.us

mel jacobson on mon 9 oct 00


now, don't laugh.

but, on several occasions the cursor etc on my screen at the
farm has turned to white.

can't see it.

i did everything i can to change it back to black.
switched all screen and fonts to black, still
blinks white.
cannot see a thing.
had to make my screen dark gray.
damn.
now, don't laugh. someone help.
mel
had a enough goofy things go wrong last week.


FROM MINNETONKA, MINNESOTA, USA
http://www.pclink.com/melpots (website)

Barney Adams on thu 5 apr 01


I agree except that you get what you pay for. I write software and I see what most
of
the kids that are coming out of school think is good code. I'm not saying zonesafe
is
not a good product. The MS supplied firewall was useless and the Linux was a battle
to
keep up with applying security patches. Hardware is usually more reliable. Nothing
is
for sure. Hardware however is much more expensive that why I preferenced price
first.
My hardware router/firewall is under attack still, I'm aware of it, but not
bothered by it any more.

Security is pretty much impossible unless you stay off the internet and even then
you
may have to leave the computer off to be 100% sure.

Barney

Matt MacIntire wrote:

> Barney, your firewall appliance is probably still under exactly the same
> assault as when you had a software solution. But the firewall is just
> ignoring it, as it should.
>
> For myself, I see no reason to prefer a $150 hardware solution to ZoneAlarm
> unless one is sharing the Internet connection with other machines -- as you
> are. I have a firewall appliance too, since I want to share my DSL
> connection throughout the house using a variety of operating systems. But
> nowadays you could easily use Win98 SE or Win 2000 to share an Internet
> connection at no extra cost beyond an old hub. Coupled with ZoneAlarm, one
> could have (nearly) free security for a broadband connection.
>
> Some will tell you that even if you have a basic firewall protecting your
> network, you may still be vulnerable to trojans and other security breaches
> that may initiate INSIDE your network if you are not exceedingly careful. A
> software solution like ZoneAlarm can perform this egress filtering and may
> be more secure than a simple firewall with default configuration for this
> very reason. By default, most firewalls let ALL outbound traffic pass.
>
> As Steve Gibson says, "Your Internet connection flows both
> ways . . . so must your security."
>
> For more information on the importance of egress filtering, take a look at
> Steve Gibson's LeakTest site:
> http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm
> I'd wager your firewall will fail this test, but I wouldn't wager a large
> amount.
>
> OK now, that's enough geek speak for me...
>
> Matt
>
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Lana Reeves on thu 5 apr 01


Hi, Computer mavins: I have a cable modem. I also have a lot of =
confidential stuff on my computer. I want to put up a firewall. Will =
this interfere with my receiving mail from clayart and my other list? =
And, can anyone recommend a good firewall program for a PC. [Good =
meaning both effective and with clear instructions.] Thanks, Lana
kilnkat@rcn.com =3D^..^=3D
"The genius of cats, really, is they can make both rejection and =
acceptance equally annoying. No wonder we love them so. "
=
-Jon Carroll

Karen Lookenott on thu 5 apr 01


Lana,

It will not cause a problem with your email. A good program to look at is
Norton's Personal Firewall software. You can also spend a couple of bucks
more and purchase the whole suite of internet tools that will provide
antvirus, etc.

Karen

-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of Lana Reeves
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:52 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: computer question


Hi, Computer mavins: I have a cable modem. I also have a lot of
confidential stuff on my computer. I want to put up a firewall. Will this
interfere with my receiving mail from clayart and my other list? And, can
anyone recommend a good firewall program for a PC. [Good meaning both
effective and with clear instructions.] Thanks, Lana
kilnkat@rcn.com =^..^=
"The genius of cats, really, is they can make both rejection and acceptance
equally annoying. No wonder we love them so. "
-Jon
Carroll

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__
Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org

You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
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Barney Adams on thu 5 apr 01


For around 130 dollars you can by a hardware firewall which would offer the best protection.
Look at D-Link or LinkSys. I have a cable modem hooked to mine and share my nine systems
through it. My software firewall was under assualt continuosly and I didn't feel as secure with
it. The setup on the hardware option was easier as the defaults are for maximum security.

Barney

Lana Reeves wrote:

> Hi, Computer mavins: I have a cable modem. I also have a lot of confidential stuff on my computer. I want to put up a firewall. Will this interfere with my receiving mail from clayart and my other list? And, can anyone recommend a good firewall program for a PC. [Good meaning both effective and with clear instructions.] Thanks, Lana
> kilnkat@rcn.com =^..^=
> "The genius of cats, really, is they can make both rejection and acceptance equally annoying. No wonder we love them so. "
> -Jon Carroll
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.

Matt MacIntire on thu 5 apr 01


This is a bit off topic for this list, but I agree with artimater's
suggestion to get ZoneAlarm.

ZoneAlarm is free (for personal use) and is easy to use. Asks you questions
like "Do you want to allow Outlook to access the internet?" It is a bit
pesky at first when it asks you about EVERY program that accesses the
internet. But that way you don't have to know anything about TCP/IP ports
to make the firewall work. ZoneAlarm is very effective and gets good
reviews. Also hard to beat the price...

You can get the current version of ZoneAlarm here:
http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/partners/zonealarm/download.html

and Steve Gibson's Shields UP! website is a great place to see if your
machine is secure:
https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Matt




-----Original Message-----
From: Lana Reeves [mailto:kilnkat@RCN.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:52 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: computer question


Hi, Computer mavins: I have a cable modem. I also have a lot of
confidential stuff on my computer. I want to put up a firewall. Will this
interfere with my receiving mail from clayart and my other list? And, can
anyone recommend a good firewall program for a PC. [Good meaning both
effective and with clear instructions.] Thanks, Lana
kilnkat@rcn.com =^..^=
"The genius of cats, really, is they can make both rejection and acceptance
equally annoying. No wonder we love them so. "
-Jon
Carroll

____________________________________________________________________________
__
Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org

You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/

Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.

Matt MacIntire on thu 5 apr 01


Barney, your firewall appliance is probably still under exactly the same
assault as when you had a software solution. But the firewall is just
ignoring it, as it should.

For myself, I see no reason to prefer a $150 hardware solution to ZoneAlarm
unless one is sharing the Internet connection with other machines -- as you
are. I have a firewall appliance too, since I want to share my DSL
connection throughout the house using a variety of operating systems. But
nowadays you could easily use Win98 SE or Win 2000 to share an Internet
connection at no extra cost beyond an old hub. Coupled with ZoneAlarm, one
could have (nearly) free security for a broadband connection.

Some will tell you that even if you have a basic firewall protecting your
network, you may still be vulnerable to trojans and other security breaches
that may initiate INSIDE your network if you are not exceedingly careful. A
software solution like ZoneAlarm can perform this egress filtering and may
be more secure than a simple firewall with default configuration for this
very reason. By default, most firewalls let ALL outbound traffic pass.

As Steve Gibson says, "Your Internet connection flows both
ways . . . so must your security."

For more information on the importance of egress filtering, take a look at
Steve Gibson's LeakTest site:
http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm
I'd wager your firewall will fail this test, but I wouldn't wager a large
amount.


OK now, that's enough geek speak for me...


Matt

CINDI ANDERSON on sat 7 apr 01


ZoneAlarm is a good one, and is free for individuals.
Cindi
Fremont, CA

Lana Reeves wrote:

> Hi, Computer mavins: I have a cable modem. I also have a lot of confidential stuff on my computer. I want to put up a firewall. Will this interfere with my receiving mail from clayart and my other list? And, can anyone recommend a good firewall program for a PC. [Good meaning both effective and with clear instructions.] Thanks, Lana
> kilnkat@rcn.com =^..^=
> "The genius of cats, really, is they can make both rejection and acceptance equally annoying. No wonder we love them so. "
> -Jon Carroll
>

CINDI ANDERSON on sat 7 apr 01


Sorry, you can find it at: http://www.zonealarm.com

CINDI ANDERSON wrote:

> ZoneAlarm is a good one, and is free for individuals.
> Cindi
> Fremont, CA
>

Jack Rosenberg on thu 30 jan 03


It's called a message header. All emails have one. It tells the internet
where to send it. It tells your email program how to show it. It tells
you where it came from, when, and by what route. Sometimes people
forward emails with the header visible, and that's why sometimes you see
it, sometimes you don't. You can look at the header for any email with
the menus from your email program (which varies: in Microsoft Outlook,
you go to View, Message Header).

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CLAYART Digest - 28 Jan 2003 to 29 Jan 2003 (#2003-30)





Table of contents:


* twist of fate <> (2)

* Alginate info <>

* porcelain tombstones/grave markers <> (3)

* Bailey ST 200 wheel ??????????? RR <>

* Elementary glaze questions <> (2)

* too much reduction <>

* Plumbing question and Boilers or...or not... <>

* : Is it just me? (hating my work) <>

* DMSO paranoia <> (2)

* water verses slip <>

* Fwd: Re: Desktop Publishing <>

* 4rd Annual Clayart Slide Workshop!! <>

* what are you listening to in your studio?? <>

* alginate and baby feet questions <> (2)

* Bead Swap Interest <>

* Coming Soon - PC control of Electric Kilns <>

* Poet on the beach <>

* Empty bowls in Waco <>

* Hyperbolic Bowls <> (7)

* co2 and kilns <>

* Is it just me? (hating my work) <>

* terra sig question <>

* "Recording the Flame" ... available in video? <>

* slab support <> (2)

* Workshop <>

* Central Long Island? <>

* what are you listening to in your studio <>

* dental floss threader for feathering slips <> (2)

* Blue white cobalt tricks need help <> (4)

* Poet on the beach--now:goldsworthy <>

* California Living Treasures <> (2)

* pyrometers <>

* kaowool <> (2)

* The Wheel of Retailing <>

* potters near Salt Springs BC <> (2)

* Terra sig question <>

* Kiln vent safety question <> (2)

* Desktop Publishing (and Word and stuff like that) <> (2)

* Interesting item on eBay web site item#3308997741: Ram <> Press
for clay pottery/ceramic production

* too many posts <>

* convert an OLD electric kiln <> (3)

* sunny warm Jamaica <>

* crazing/tenmoku/dmso <>

* PHOTO BOOTH <> (2)

* sales from your studio <>

* kiln safety vent question <>

* potter at wheel <>

* pyrometers -- Carole's question <>

* PRIMITIVE PHOTO BOOTH <>

* ms word <>

* OT: front page, mac users, comp gurus... <>

* call for entries <>

* The Sound of Music <>

* Back in the saddle/slip vs. H2O <>

* FW: Is it just me? (hating my work) <>

* drilling in soft brick/hole <> (2)

* howdy out there <>

* thermocouple in peephole <>

* 2003 Stay at Home Mug Exchange, repeat <>

* need computer help <>

* drilling in an electric kiln <>

* New Video: Recoding the Flame: Woodfired Pottery <>

* Advancer Shelves and Heat Stress <>


1. twist of fate


* Re: twist of fate (01/28)
From: Carol Ryan-Aube

* Re: twist of fate (01/29)
From: Carol Ross


2. Alginate info


* Re: Alginate info (01/28)
From: Ditmar


3. porcelain tombstones/grave markers


* Re: porcelain tombstones/grave markers (01/29)
From: billie schwab

* Re: porcelain tombstones/grave markers (01/28)
From: claire toutant /patricia dailey

* Re: porcelain tombstones/grave markers (01/29)
From: Neil Fallon


4. Bailey ST 200 wheel ??????????? RR


* Bailey ST 200 wheel ??????????? RR (01/29)
From: Ron Roy


5. Elementary glaze questions


* Re: Elementary glaze questions (01/29)
From: Ron Roy

* Re: Elementary glaze questions (01/29)
From: Ababi


6. too much reduction


* Re: too much reduction (01/29)
From: Ron Roy


7. Plumbing question and Boilers or...or not...


* Re: Plumbing question and Boilers or...or not... (01/29)
From: Philip Poburka


8. : Is it just me? (hating my work)


* : Is it just me? (hating my work) (01/28)
From: iandol


9. DMSO paranoia


* DMSO paranoia (01/28)
From: iandol

* Re: DMSO paranoia (01/29)
From: Bob Santerre


10. water verses slip


* Re: water verses slip (01/28)
From: iandol


11. Fwd: Re: Desktop Publishing


* Re: Fwd: Re: Desktop Publishing (01/29)
From: Russel Fouts


12. 4rd Annual Clayart Slide Workshop!!


* 4rd Annual Clayart Slide Workshop!! (01/29)
From: Russel Fouts


13. what are you listening to in your studio??


* Re: what are you listening to in your studio?? (01/28)
From: Dean Walker


14. alginate and baby feet questions


* alginate and baby feet questions (01/29)
From: Bobbruch1@AOL.COM

* Re: alginate and baby feet questions (01/29)
From: Snail Scott


15. Bead Swap Interest


* Re: Bead Swap Interest (01/29)
From: Vicki Hardin


16. Coming Soon - PC control of Electric Kilns


* Coming Soon - PC control of Electric Kilns (01/28)
From: iandol


17. Poet on the beach


* Re: Poet on the beach (01/29)
From: claybair


18. Empty bowls in Waco


* Empty bowls in Waco (01/28)
From: "Hendrix, Taylor J."


19. Hyperbolic Bowls


* Hyperbolic Bowls (01/29)
From: John Rodgers

* Re: Hyperbolic Bowls (01/29)
From: Bryan

* Re: Hyperbolic Bowls (01/29)
From: Bob Santerre

* Re: Hyperbolic Bowls (01/29)
From: Jim Kasper

* Re: Hyperbolic Bowls (01/29)
From: "Bill Aycock, W4BSG"

* Re: Hyperbolic Bowls (01/29)
From: Bryan

* Re: Hyperbolic Bowls (01/29)
From: Paul Lewing


20. co2 and kilns


* co2 and kilns (01/29)
From: mel jacobson


21. Is it just me? (hating my work)


* Re: Is it just me? (hating my work) (01/28)
From: Stephani Stephenson


22. terra sig question


* Re: terra sig question (01/28)
From: Elizabeth Herod


23. "Recording the Flame" ... available in video?


* Re: "Recording the Flame" ... available in video? (01/29)
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* Desktop Publishing (and Word and stuff like that) (01/29)
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* drilling in soft brick/hole (01/29)
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* need computer help (01/29)
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Mark Issenberg on mon 7 apr 08


Getting ready to start glazing today.. hope to fire tomorrow .. Getting
ready for the 4 Bridges show in Chattanooga in 2 weeks. Interesting about the
paper work they want for that show. They want a W-2 form and I hate leaving my
social number with anyone and they also have a form that you have to initial a
bunch of thing like no pets ,cant leave till it over etc,,,, So they collect
the form and now I cant remember all the things that I should not do. Also it
sure is adversarial I remember a plant show in Miami that had the same
issue. Also I remembered last year how the artists have to be there Friday night
and they said we would be fed.. What a joke.. The artists were asked not to
hog the chow line till the Patrons chowed down.. Well this year Ill be ready,,
Im bringing P&J

I have a computer question,, We were told to put the computer in to
Hibernate when we go to sleep. There is also a stand by area but Ijust turn it off

Was curious as to what most of you do???

Also we have been looking at dogs , hoping one that would run the deer out
of our garden and a black & tan hound showed up..He is young and I named him
Elvis.. aint nothen but a hound dog

see some of you this weekend at App Center for Craft

Mark
lookout Mountain
VP PC





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Randall Moody on mon 7 apr 08


I wouldn't supply a show a W-2 or a SSN without a VERY good reason.
But to the computer issue. If you leave the computer on hibernate it
will still be drawing power. Most electronics now have a sleep or
hibernate mode that still draws power. Turning the computer off will
not hurt it at all. If you do turn the computer off you should follow
the "Shut Down" procedure and not just hit the power button.

--
Randall in Atlanta


> I have a computer question,, We were told to put the computer in to
> Hibernate when we go to sleep. There is also a stand by area but Ijust turn it off
>
> Was curious as to what most of you do???
>
> Also we have been looking at dogs , hoping one that would run the deer out
> of our garden and a black & tan hound showed up..He is young and I named him
> Elvis.. aint nothen but a hound dog
>
> see some of you this weekend at App Center for Craft
>
> Mark
> lookout Mountain
> VP PC
>

Bonnie Hellman on mon 7 apr 08


Mark,

I always suggest that businesses get EINs, tax IDs, free from the IRS for
filing form SS-4, exactly so you never leave your social security number
with anyone. When they ask for your social security number, you just say,
"Here's my tax ID, and give them your business EIN."

My understanding is that you can get a tax ID by first completing a form
SS-4 (it is on WWW.IRS.GOV), then telephoning the number in the
instructions. They should give you the number on the phone. Be sure to write
it down, because it will take weeks to get the copy in the mail.

The main thing in completing the SS-4, unless you have payroll with
employees and withholding (not likely for most one-person ceramics
businesses), be sure to indicate that you have NO employees, and don't
expect to have any.

It's probably not a W-2 form you're leaving with that 4 Bridges, show, Mark.
But I'd certainly get a tax ID number for the business instead of giving
your social security number.

Bonnie

Bonnie D. Hellman, CPA
mou10ms@frontier.net
Ouray, Colorado 81427


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Issenberg"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:09 AM
Subject: computer question


> Getting ready to start glazing today.. hope to fire tomorrow .. Getting
> ready for the 4 Bridges show in Chattanooga in 2 weeks. Interesting about
> the
> paper work they want for that show. They want a W-2 form and I hate
> leaving my
> social number with anyone and they also have a form that you have to
> initial a
> bunch of thing like no pets ,cant leave till it over etc,,,, So they
> collect
> the form and now I cant remember all the things that I should not do.
> Also it
> sure is adversarial I remember a plant show in Miami that had the same
> issue. Also I remembered last year how the artists have to be there
> Friday night
> and they said we would be fed.. What a joke.. The artists were asked not
> to
> hog the chow line till the Patrons chowed down.. Well this year Ill be
> ready,,
> Im bringing P&J
>
> I have a computer question,, We were told to put the computer in to
> Hibernate when we go to sleep. There is also a stand by area but Ijust
> turn it off
>
> Was curious as to what most of you do???
>
> Also we have been looking at dogs , hoping one that would run the deer out
> of our garden and a black & tan hound showed up..He is young and I named
> him
> Elvis.. aint nothen but a hound dog
>
> see some of you this weekend at App Center for Craft
>
> Mark
> lookout Mountain
> VP PC
>
>
>
>
>
> **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.
>
> (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
>
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Jason Hooper on tue 8 apr 08


Hi Mark,

Hibernate is a good option, which I use a lot - especially with laptops.
It does not draw any power, and the computer remembers which programs
are running, so it starts up the way it was when you hibernated. It can
save a lot of time compared to shutting down and rebooting. You can pull
the plug on a hibernated computer and it will be just fine.

Standby mode does draw power because the computer memory is still
active. If you pull the plug on standby mode, that's not a good thing,
and the computer will reboot from scratch when you put the power back on.

cheers,
Jason

Mark Issenberg wrote:
>
> I have a computer question,, We were told to put the computer in to
> Hibernate when we go to sleep. There is also a stand by area but I just turn it off

--
Jason Hooper
http://www.jjhooper.com

Rikki Gill on tue 8 apr 08


Hi All,

One problem with leaving my computer in 'hibernate' at night, is that if I
get up in the middle of the night, my computer has turned itself on. I have
a pc, and when I try to shut it down, it displays a blue screen and tells me
"media check in progress'. I do turn it off at that point. It is probably
microsoft playing chess, or some such, but I really don't like it. Does
anyone else have that problem, or know what is going on? This has been
happening for a few months.
I now just shut it off at night.

Best,

Rikki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Hooper"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: computer question


> Hi Mark,
>
> Hibernate is a good option, which I use a lot - especially with laptops.
> It does not draw any power, and the computer remembers which programs
> are running, so it starts up the way it was when you hibernated. It can
> save a lot of time compared to shutting down and rebooting. You can pull
> the plug on a hibernated computer and it will be just fine.
>
> Standby mode does draw power because the computer memory is still
> active. If you pull the plug on standby mode, that's not a good thing,
> and the computer will reboot from scratch when you put the power back on.
>
> cheers,
> Jason
>
> Mark Issenberg wrote:
>>
>> I have a computer question,, We were told to put the computer in to
>> Hibernate when we go to sleep. There is also a stand by area but I just
>> turn it off
>
> --
> Jason Hooper
> http://www.jjhooper.com
>
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Mike Gordon on tue 8 apr 08


Riki,
This may not be the case with your pc but I heard on the TV that
hackers have broken into people's pc's that were left on sleep
overnight and either taken info off the hard drive or left a virus.
Mike Gordon
On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Rikki Gill wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> One problem with leaving my computer in 'hibernate' at night, is that
> if I
> get up in the middle of the night, my computer has turned itself on.
> I have
> a pc, and when I try to shut it down, it displays a blue screen and
> tells me
> "media check in progress'. I do turn it off at that point. It is
> probably
> microsoft playing chess, or some such, but I really don't like it.
> Does
> anyone else have that problem, or know what is going on? This has been
> happening for a few months.
> I now just shut it off at night.
>
> Best,
>
> Rikki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Hooper"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:19 AM
> Subject: Re: computer question
>
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Hibernate is a good option, which I use a lot - especially with
>> laptops.
>> It does not draw any power, and the computer remembers which programs
>> are running, so it starts up the way it was when you hibernated. It
>> can
>> save a lot of time compared to shutting down and rebooting. You can
>> pull
>> the plug on a hibernated computer and it will be just fine.
>>
>> Standby mode does draw power because the computer memory is still
>> active. If you pull the plug on standby mode, that's not a good thing,
>> and the computer will reboot from scratch when you put the power back
>> on.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Jason
>>
>> Mark Issenberg wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a computer question,, We were told to put the computer in to
>>> Hibernate when we go to sleep. There is also a stand by area but I
>>> just
>>> turn it off
>>
>> --
>> Jason Hooper
>> http://www.jjhooper.com
>>
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Arnold Howard on tue 8 apr 08


From: "Rikki Gill"
> One problem with leaving my computer in 'hibernate' at
> night, is that if I
> get up in the middle of the night, my computer has turned
> itself on.
----------------
That's why I don't trust the hibernate mode. I always turn
my computer off for the night. One time while my home
computer was on all night, someone logged into it and slowed
it down. I used PC-Cillin to find and delete the spybot.
When the computer is on all the time, there is a greater
chance that someone can hack into it.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com

Kathy Forer on tue 8 apr 08


On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Rikki Gill wrote:

> One problem with leaving my computer in 'hibernate' at night, is
> that if I
> get up in the middle of the night, my computer has turned itself
> on. I have
> a pc, and when I try to shut it down, it displays a blue screen and
> tells me
> "media check in progress'. I do turn it off at that point.

Some computers, including a couple late-model Dell I've worked on,
seem incapable of exiting hibernation mode on demand. Many others are
just fine with it. I don't think it's the software, but something in
the hardware. It's as though the parked heads on the hibernating disks
can't get started moving. Best not to use hibernation if your computer
can't handle it.

Kathy

John Post on tue 8 apr 08


These are the reasons I shut my computer off at night...

I use a laptop. I work in a huge school system and at least once a
year a tech has to go around and read all the serial numbers off the
batteries to find the ones that are being recalled because some of
them caught fire somewhere. I never leave my house with a laptop on.
I don't want to find out the hard way that my battery is being recalled.

The thing that I have replaced the most in computers for myself and
others is cooling fans. These little gizmos run constantly and suck
up dust from the room right into your computer. Not only do these
things fill your computer with dust more quickly if they are running
constantly, but the bearings in them go bad and then they get noisy.
Most computers have a fan on the chip and others in various locations
in the case. If your computer is off, it ain't sucking up dust.

Most hackers are high school/college kids with lots of time on their
hands. They stay up late and look for computers, servers and routers
to hack into. (Adults are usually too busy trying to make a living to
spend their time staying up all night idly trying to hack into other's
computers.) I know that it is always night time somewhere in the
world, but we here in North America tend to grow our fair share of
hackers, so why leave your machine on and unattended. I read a book
about some of the most famous hackers and we grew almost all of them
here in the states.

As for that business about starting up being hard on your hard drive,
I could care less about that. By the time you have had your computer
a year or two, the hard drive seems way too small compared to what the
new machines have. I back up all my data on a remote hard drive or
two, so if the hard drive in my machine crashes it just means its time
for the new bigger, faster one.

John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
http://www.johnpost.us :: cone 6 glaze website ::
http://www.wemakeart.org :: elementary art website ::

>>> Mark Issenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a computer question,, We were told to put the computer in to
>>>> Hibernate when we go to sleep. There is also a stand by area but I
>>>> just
>>>> turn it off
>>>
>>>

Steve Mills on wed 9 apr 08


Let's get real!

If a computer IS going to be left on ad infinitum,then it MUST have good quality anti-virus and anti-spyware programs installed that update themselves on a bi-hourly basis. This means the owner HAS to spend money to be safe!
A system is only as safe as its owner makes it, cheap freeware A.V. programs are very poor protection against anyone who is determined to get in.
Also.
If you are on ANY high speed connection, before you boot, you must unplug it until your whole system and its A.V. program is up and running, and then connect:
the gap between starting to boot and the Anti-Virus kicking in is big enough for any Hacker or Bot server to gain access!

Be warned!

Even so it is a good idea to log onto one of the various Anti-Virus companies websites and get a remote, detailed (free) scan of your system....just to be safe!

Steve
Bath
UK



Mike Gordon wrote:
Riki,
This may not be the case with your pc but I heard on the TV that
hackers have broken into people's pc's that were left on sleep
overnight and either taken info off the hard drive or left a virus.
Mike Gordon
On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Rikki Gill wrote:

> Hi All,
>

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Donald Burroughs on thu 10 apr 08


Might I also add that if you are on a cable modem or DSL that you always
use a ehternet broadband router as a physical firewall especially if you
are letting your computer hibernate(sleep). A good physical firewall is
your first line of defense, your continually updated anti-virus/firewall
software second.

Regards :} Don Burroughs