Karl David Knudson on fri 11 apr 97
I'm passing this question along for a number of people here at school
have asked me to. The questions seem to focus around the notion of just
what constitutes an emerging artist to NCECA? At what level do you have
to be at to "Emerge"? Many people seem to be wondering about this as I've
been asked half a dozen times what I thought about it. Is this just a
caste system where the people on top call those in the middle "Emerging"
while the people on the bottom call those same middle people
"Established."
Is it a descriptive thing? For instance is Paul Soldner an "emerging
artist" because of his propensity to emerge naked and run across stages?
He is an artist who emerges....
There's a bright yellow ball floating in the sky outside my window, I
wonder what it is....?
The other Karl
Frank Hartlieb on mon 14 apr 97
Other Karl..seems to me that you have probably drawn the correct
conclusions re: "emerging" or at least that particular state of being, or
is it a state of mind ?, I have also often wondered whether or not I
should
try to "emerge", but have not yet found a way to do so..at least in a way
where someone has actually acknowledged that I am indeed "emerging".
Perhaps its a way of being recognized by those who "emerged" some time
ago, that the "emergee" is now one of them. Seriously, I think those
powers that be in the NCECA hierarchy should explain this so that those of
us who may want to "emerge" will know what to do, as well as those who are
the respected and nationally known clay artists who have experienced
this. If they are teachers/professors..perhaps they can enlighten their
students on the subject. Perhaps the entire issue deals with the
evolution of a person and their art, work, thinking, aesthetic
sensibilities etc. and the interaction within a larger contingent of
others in the field that may be a result of this process.
frank
hart9535@uidaho.edu
Dannon Rhudy on tue 15 apr 97
I'm not positive that this was the question, but do you want to
know how to apply to be an "emerging artist" for purposes of
NCECA?
If so, it is my understanding that ANYONE can apply (it may be
that you must be a member of NCECA). It is
necessary to fill out some form or other, and to either: a)have
someone "recommend" you by letter, or, b) recommend yourself, same
way. A number of slides must be submitted with the application.
I do not know who decides which persons are/are not accepted.
There may be a form in the literature from the NCECA meeting.
I have not even looked in the package yet, except to take out the
program. There may be any number of surprises in there for me,
soon as I get a minute. Probably have to wait for a dark and
stormy night...
Dannon Rhudy
potter@koyote.com
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Other Karl..seems to me that you have probably drawn the correct
conclusions re: "emerging" ... Seriously, I think those
powers that be in the NCECA hierarchy should explain this so that
those of
us who may want to "emerge" will know what to do......
lkatz@tamucc.edu on tue 15 apr 97
Hi Frank,
I may not be the one to fill in the blanks as I am not sure of all of
them myself, but Emerging talent nominations are usually announced in
the NCECA newsletter. I suspect that the person handling them for next
year has yet to be determined, and that it will be at the NCECA Board
meeeting in late May.
A few years ago I decided that I would not complain about anything
concerning the conference unless I brought it up at the board meeting at
the end of the confernce (usually 2 pm on Saturday) or with a board
member personally.
Buses have always been a problem. They are the most expensive part of
the conference (I have been told) and the most difficult. How to run
enough busses at the beginning when everyone wants to start the tours
and enough at the end to pick everyone back up is not a particularly
easy job to do successfully unless you too much money. As a new board
memeber I have thought about trying tto help on the bus thing, but I am
running scared because it seems doomed to difficulty. Of 2400-3500
people that might show up to the conference how many will take the bus
tours. How many will want to take two tours? How many want the A tour,
how many the B tour, how many the C tour?
How many will eat during the tour and stay out until the " last bus"?
There are just too many variables.
Anyways, the buses are on my mind, and I will bring them up at the board
meeting. Perhaps we can get a local to produce some maps for Fort Worth.
Louis
Frank Hartlieb wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
, I have also often wondered whether or not I
> should
> try to "emerge", but have not yet found a way to do so..at least in a way
> where someone has actually acknowledged that I am indeed "emerging".
> Perhaps its a way of being recognized by those who "emerged" some time
> ago, that the "emergee" is now one of them. Seriously, I think those
> powers that be in the NCECA hierarchy should explain this so that those of
> us who may want to "emerge" will know what to do, as well as those who are
> the respected and nationally known clay artists who have experienced
> this.
> frank
> hart9535@uidaho.edu
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Karl David Knudson on tue 15 apr 97
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Frank Hartlieb wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have also often wondered whether or not I should
> try to "emerge", but have not yet found a way to do so..at least in a way
> where someone has actually acknowledged that I am indeed "emerging".
I think that there are many of us who would want to know this information.
> Perhaps its a way of being recognized by those who "emerged" some time
> ago, that the "emergee" is now one of them.
This is the same answer that I gave to the people who initially asked me
what the heck an "emerging artist" really was. but it brings up a
number of good questions as to who is emerged and how they decide who's
emerging. Does a person have to be a tenured professor, winner of many
international awards, holder of numerous honorary degrees, widely sought
after by collectors and a household name in order to be an "Emerging
Artist"? I would hope not, we'd never have any emerging artists. While
this example may be a bit extreme when I (and other non-emerged folk)
look at the credentials of some of the recently "emerged artists" it's a
bit misleading. Has there been any discusson in the higher circles of
adding additional categories of emerging artist? Maybe there could be a
heirarchy of sorts, the first level could be "Emerging Talent" then there
could be the "Emerging Artist" then the "Ceramic Deity" or something like
that?
> Seriously, I think those
> powers that be in the NCECA hierarchy should explain this so that those of
> us who may want to "emerge" will know what to do, as well as those who are
> the respected and nationally known clay artists who have experienced
> this.
Good idea.
It's still raining,
the other Karl in Eugene
Karl David Knudson on wed 16 apr 97
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Dannon Rhudy wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I'm not positive that this was the question, but do you want to
> know how to apply to be an "emerging artist" for purposes of
> NCECA?
No it is close but not quite. The question was really about what
constitutes an "Emerging" artist. I spoke with my advisor and long time
NCECA-phile, as well as general great guy, George Kokis, who gave a
similar synopsis of the procedure to become "Emerged". He too noticed
that in recent years the emerging artists tended to be getting 'older'.
(Not using old to describe age but rather time in clay and
influence etc. ie university professors or people doing large public
commissions for a number of years).
George did offer one very interesting insight into the emerging process
and that was that the people who emerged had to be nominated and chosen
from those nominated. Meaning that they got to pick from their
applicants. I don't know how many applications NCECA gets but judging
from the way George presented it to me it didn't sound like a lot. Does
anyone know figures?
Why wasn't Keisuke(?) (the Forbidden Fruit) nominated, having pieces in
CM, the NCECA regional show, the student show, the salt and pepper show
and the Orton Cone box show all in the same month WHILE IN GRAD SCHOOL!!!!
???
The other Karl in Eugene.
Dawne Jenelle Fowkes on wed 16 apr 97
Karl,
I had to quit laughing before I started to write this.... Ceramic
Deity?????? What a concept! Can you imagine the controversy such a category
would create? In truth, I have to agree with you. It seems that the
"Emerging Artist" program does feature ceramic artists/potters who have been
"out and about for some time". The Las Vegas conference underscores this
point as I had previous knowledge of over half of the featured artists work
via publication, exhibitions, etc. Although I did read the criteria for
nomination once (in an Nceca publication) I have often wondered myself about
how the "Emerging Artists" are chosen.
Maybe the program should be reconsidered and restructured. Maybe our
fellow clayarter and new board member Louis can be of help with this.........
Dawne Jenelle Fowkes :)
It's a dark and foggy night here by the ocean....
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