Toni Hall on sun 31 aug 97
Does anyone kown how to build your own extruder out of round or square
metal? Do you mind sharing the source of your information? Any advise
will be appreciated. TIA Toni in NM
Eleanora Eden on mon 1 sep 97
Hi Toni,
This might not be much help but I remember when somebody in Berkeley was
building exruders for people and bragging that they cost him $5 in
materials, it was a length of pipe attached to a board to put on the wall
with another length of pipe above for the handle and all painted bright
yellow..so as I said this is not much help but I do know it has been done,
and cheap.
Eleanora
At 04:00 PM 8/31/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Does anyone kown how to build your own extruder out of round or square
>metal? Do you mind sharing the source of your information? Any advise
>will be appreciated. TIA Toni in NM
>
>
Eleanora Eden 802 869-2003
Paradise Hill
Bellows Falls, VT 05101 eden@sover.net
Gary & Carla Goldberg on mon 12 apr 99
Hi - I just tried out my new extruder today and I have a question.
I spayed WD-40 into the extruder and on the die, I was told this will
prevent clay from sticking for cleanup purposes - and it worked great!
My Question: The first bunch of clay and the last bit of clay had quite
a bit of WD-40 mixed in with it. Is it okay to use the clay or does the
WD40 contaminated it?
Any helpful suggestions for a new extruder user would be greatly
appreciated.
Carla from Alaska - Where I yearn to see my yard (it's covered with
snow).
ginny biv on tue 13 apr 99
for a less toxic product, try vegetable oil(like pam). for a non-
aerosol you can use vegetable oil in a spray bottle. i have'nt tried
the spray bottle myself, but i know they sell bottles for spraying
olive oil at gourmet kitchen stores, so it should work. i have never
noticed a problem from the clay with some oil on it.
ginny from orcas island where the tulips are stealing the show
>From: Gary & Carla Goldberg
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: Extruder
>Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:06:22 EDT
>
>----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
>Hi - I just tried out my new extruder today and I have a question.
>
>I spayed WD-40 into the extruder and on the die, I was told this will
>prevent clay from sticking for cleanup purposes - and it worked
great!
>My Question: The first bunch of clay and the last bit of clay had
quite
>a bit of WD-40 mixed in with it. Is it okay to use the clay or does
the
>WD40 contaminated it?
>
>Any helpful suggestions for a new extruder user would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Carla from Alaska - Where I yearn to see my yard (it's covered with
>snow).
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Frank Bosco on tue 13 apr 99
carla,
yes you can use the clay, the wd40 burns off in the firing. the only
problem is that sometimes it's hard to get the clay to stick together when
wedging after using it in the extruder, nothing that a little water sprayed
on it won't cure.
frank, from new jersey where it's hot one day, then cold, then rain,
then sun, then cold again....
Carol Seidman on tue 13 apr 99
Carla: WD-40 wont contaminate your clay but it will make it difficult
to attach pieces together. Its a lubricant, keeps things from
sticking. I dont use it in my extruder. Reclaimed clay, on the soft
side, is very easy to work with. For clean up, remove the dye and
surrounding hardware, pass a towel through the body. Pass that towel
through again the next time you use it to remove any dried scraps. Have
fun with your new gadget. Carol Seidman far away in New Jersey
Gary & Carla Goldberg wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi - I just tried out my new extruder today and I have a question.
>
> I spayed WD-40 into the extruder and on the die, I was told this will
> prevent clay from sticking for cleanup purposes - and it worked great!
> My Question: The first bunch of clay and the last bit of clay had quite
> a bit of WD-40 mixed in with it. Is it okay to use the clay or does the
> WD40 contaminated it?
>
> Any helpful suggestions for a new extruder user would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Carla from Alaska - Where I yearn to see my yard (it's covered with
> snow).
William Emley on wed 14 apr 99
Hi.
In my buisness, which strictly is a art tile production buisness, i have
used a bluebird model 3000 extruder for the pourpose of making field tile;
2x2 through 6x6. over the past year we have produced tens of thousands of
pieces of tile using only one type of clay. What I have found is that no
matter what steps you take, clean up of an extruder is a time consuming and
therefore money wasting process. I have learned through this this that there
is no need to clean the extruder any better than simply to pull the dry clay
out of the hopper (what i call the place you cram the clay.) This will only
work if you dont have to change clay bodies such as going from a white to a
red. Ive never had any problems with the process. hope this helps.
hot as hell in san antonio texas
Bill
p.s. before you leave the extruder for the day stuff plastic into the
hopper and over the nozzle to prevent as much drying as possible.
sorry about the spelling.
--==Diane Mann==-- on sun 25 jul 99
Does anyone have a used Bailey or Brent Extruder that they would like to
sell?
Thanks.
Diane Mann/ armann@ruby.indstate.edu
Indiana
Joyce Lee on sat 15 jan 00
I have a NorthStar small extruder and have just begun using it although
it's been on my wall for three years now. I love it. I know all the ugly
comments that have been made about this particular brand...doesn't
matter.... mine is a great tool for me. It does have small flaws (very,
very poorly written instructions, for example) but with assistance of #1
Support Person and Very Technical Clayarter Sylvia Shirley, it's a piece
of cake. However, now I still have money left from finding a less
expensive car than I'd anticipated as well as from a tax refund ... and
would like to buy a larger, automatic extruder. Between me and my art
league mentees, I think we'll use it aplenty...enough to make buying it
worthwhile. Soooo, what are your recommendations for a studio potter, if
you'd be kind enough to share them and have the time to think about it??
I'm reading Hamer's and the materials in my file (not much) but will
feel more confident looking for one at NCECA if I have feedback from
some claybuds. Thank you, dear developing and fullymatured gurus.
Joyce
In the Mojave envisioning all the clayarters slogging through the snow
back east ... wishing our Sierras would lighten and whiten...often are
covered by early as Thanksgiving, but not this millenium.
Paul Lewing on mon 17 jan 00
Hi, Joyce.
I've posted an extensive review of extruders on Clayart a couple of
times, since I've used many brands in the course of doing workshops. It
should be in the archives somewhere. But one thing I usually say is
that you should consider a Scott Creek extruder. They're made here in
Washington, sold at Clay Art Center in Tacoma, and have an ad in CM.
There are a number of features I like in an extruder, and Scott Creek
has all of them the way I like them, unlike any other brand. No one
seems to have ever heard of them, but check them out.
Paul Lewing, Seattle
See you in Denver!
Joyce Lee on wed 9 may 01
Jim Bob Salazar asked about the Bailey "air powered" extruder. Jim Bob
is the artist who made my gorgeous teabowl which I was fortunate enough
to draw at the Denver NCECA.... so I am pleased to answer.
I ... a most inept mechanical person ... am able to use the Bailey
extruder with ease. CPA Bonnie also has one and I'm sure would answer
questions... Peter in Florida does, too. Both helped me a great deal.
Bonnie and I talked by phone for at least and hour. Peter sent pics,
which I can send to you once I get my new computer up and running with
its new scanner.
Once I caught on and ACTED on the premise that I was the Control Person
and didn't need to unplug everything and run like heck every time the
air compressor spouted its monster, guttural sounds, extruding has gone
very well. I use the dies from Bailey, too... many, and interesting
shapes ... but create walls a mite thicker than I really want. Making
your own dies evidently is not difficult, but for me right not I'm not
there yet. The amount of clay (like 25 lbs) that one needs before being
able to extrude was a shocker! Could not figure out where it had all
gone.... that whole bag of clay! Bonnie and Peter explained this process
and, sure enough, the whole 25 lbs. was squished VERY tightly into the
bottom square section where the clay is finally extruded. I was amazed.
I am deliberately NOT looking up pertinent information in the
not-too-adequate handbook that comes with the Bailey, nor the catalog
info ... I am aware that this makes me sound like an absolute ignoramus
and that if I researched etc, I'd sound more erudite... but that's my
point exactly ... my grasp is hazy... not as unclear as it WAS,
however... and I can still create the vessels I choose within the limits
of any extruder. I do often use the extrusions in concert with slabs or
thrown parts... happy with it.
Joyce
In the Mojave with computers coming out my orifices (ears! nasty
people..) until we decide just what to do with what ... hot,hot,hot....
but studio is cooled with a swamp cooler which is working fine......
I think something ate the roadrunner... lizards are everywhere ... micro
Komoto Dragons... would like to catch one and attach a micro-pot to his
back .... micro advertising spot on the micro pot on the back of the
micro Komoto... for the Mojave Pottery ... BUT gotta get the computer
up and going first...........
David Hendley on fri 3 aug 01
Lynn, you are using clay that is too soft. You should not have
to let an extrusion hang around for hours before cutting it off.
There are two excellent extruder books,
'Extruded Ceramics', by Diana Pancioli (Lark), and
'The Extruder Book', by Daryl Baird (ACerS)
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Korbel"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:13 PM
Subject: extruder
> buy the cookbook--if not for the recipies~then for the pictures!!!!
> have begun using my new northstar extruder. what fun learning how to cut
off
> hollow extruded forms without crushing them! i have figured out to just
let
> the form hang a few hours before detaching it. there are a few extruder
> books, which one is the best?
> Lynn on the mississippi gulf coast holding my breath as tropical storm
berry
> scoots by
Lynn Korbel on fri 3 aug 01
buy the cookbook--if not for the recipies~then for the pictures!!!!
have begun using my new northstar extruder. what fun learning how to cut off
hollow extruded forms without crushing them! i have figured out to just let
the form hang a few hours before detaching it. there are a few extruder
books, which one is the best?
Lynn on the mississippi gulf coast holding my breath as tropical storm berry
scoots by
Val on fri 24 aug 01
Hi,
I am looking for a second hand extruder if anyone in Canada has one
for sale would you email me with the price please...
Thanks so much
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Cindy Griffis on thu 7 mar 02
My apologies to all for cluttering the list with this request, but it seems my piles have intruded upon my computer's files as well as the horizontal surfaces in the house.....
A few months ago there was a thread about making extruders and someone's hubby had started a small business making them. I've lost her post and address, possibly in one of those piles. I've tried searching the archives, but no names ring a bell... Could someone please send me a note off list if they know of whom I'm speaking?
Thanks so much!
Cindy
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The Potter's Edge on wed 30 jul 03
I don't know a guy in Texas but I do know of a guy in Mesa AZ and his
extruders are built to last, large volume and very well made. I also
believe that you can use the Bailey die sets in his. FYI his name is Jerry
Smith and his prices are the same (if we're talking about a wall mount, add
30 bucks for a table) I don't want to spam his home number out so email me
directly and I'll give it to you (after getting his ok first)
thepottersedge@cox.net
Thanks.
CD
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of dennis jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:52 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: extruder
Does anyone know of a gentleman in Texas who makes extruders ? The Bailey
die sets can be used in his extruders which, I believe, sell for about $200.
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dennis jones on wed 30 jul 03
Does anyone know of a gentleman in Texas who makes extruders ? The =
Bailey die sets can be used in his extruders which, I believe, sell for =
about $200.
kruzewski on thu 31 jul 03
This is a different answer to your question than you wanted, but maybe you,
or someone else can use it anyway.
Recently North Wales Potters had a workshop with Richard Godfrey. You may
not have heard of him but he makes very brightly coloured whacky mugs,
teapots etc. He shared with us a lot of the home made tools he uses, as well
as the plans for his extruder. He makes his own dies too. He sent these
plans to me to share - he believes in that.
He said it just needs someone who can weld a bit, but is basically simple
and effective. Judging by the extrusions he brought with him I would say
that was so.
If anyone would like the plans - 1 page diagram - please email me off list
and I will send them to you by email - it will be a biggish file no doubt.
I am not around from 6th - 20th Aug and will be going no-mail, so I won't
see any on list requests.
Jacqui
North Wales
"Subject: extruder
Does anyone know of a gentleman in Texas who makes extruders ? The Bailey
die sets can be used in his extruders which, I believe, sell for about
$200."
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Witte?= on thu 31 jul 03
Hi Jacqui,
I'm very much interestet in mentioned plans for extruder.
Thanks Juergen
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dunford on sun 16 may 04
Any of you using a Bailey system extruder?
Thinking of purchasing one........ like the notion of the ability to get different types of barrels to fit one main unit.
Would like to hear pros and cons on this type of extruder........
Thanks
Terry
Joyce Lee on mon 17 may 04
I love my Bailey system...... many dies I have
yet to use...... haven't used the tile extender
either...... but I very much like the pots and
"sculpture" .. hmmm.... should have double quotes.....
more like """sculpture""" it has helped me
produce. For me, it wasn't as easy as purported,
but things mechanical never are easy for me the
first time through....... the first dozen times
through. Now the Bailey is one of my favorite
tools. The forms coming from it seem to assist
me in understanding forms better over all.... and
I can then translate to the wheel ..... or maybe
even alter the extruded form on the wheel.
There are several clayarters who helped me
immensely to catch on to what my issues were
with such a mechanical device .... plus air
compressor!!...... (scared me totally) Bonnie
and Peter were available with pictures and/or
phone calls. I used their expertise. Bailey
also offers great follow-up suggestions when
contacted..... talked me right through several
concerns I had.
You may not need as much help as I did. For
me, the sudden plummeting into a serious art/craft
world was enough...... adding mechanical
devices was perhaps even more discombobulating.....
also part of the fun, too.
Joyce
In the Mojave where I'm just as glad that the
"beautiful huge glistening raven" daughter-in-law
saw land majestically on an outside patio wall
lantern two feet
from her, but on the other side of a window .....
didn't grasp that it wasn't there solely for her appreciation.... but
most likely birdnapped a baby from its nest
built behind said light ...... for dining purposes.....
and NOT as a guest of the truly gorgeous raven.
Jude Toler on tue 2 jan 07
I am a full-time tilemaker and would like to increase
my production by using the Bailey pneumatic extruder.
Judging by feedback, this is a great system and I am
wondering if anyone has mounted this unit flat on a
horizontal surface. I thought maybe I could then
build a long table unit so I can extrude a 6 or 8 inch
wide ribbon of clay which can be cut into tiles like
the Bluebird pug mill system. My production does not
really warrant the huge investment in a Bluebird, but
I could afford the Bailey system and I think it would
better fit my needs. I am concerned that extruding
vertically may cause some warping especially when
detatching the tile. I have a 4"Bailey and know from
experience that this can be an issue when using a soft
clay with no grog. Anyone tried it? Thanks and Happy
New Year. Has anyone tried the Bailey Tile Extruder?
Thanks and Happy New Year
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