CP Dunbar on tue 3 dec 96
Candice,
We are on a binge of FB at our house.
Surprise, surprise, a good friend (that i just met) told me that she
bisque fires to only cone 08 and this causes more glaze to adhere
to the pot. Soooooooooo. we did that and this is improving the glaze.
also, there may be some discrepancy in using Cobalt Oxide vs Cobalt
Carbonate.
if any one has the time , would like to hear differences.
if you look around, it is quite obvious that almost everybody
uses some form of FB.
any more variations or hints still appreciated. ;)
cp
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CP Dunbar on wed 4 dec 96
Tom,
if i only missed one step i will be extremely surprised, buuuuuut,
you opened a door, Gotcha !!!
>Forming method and
>drying technique are vital to good pots. The bisqued body has an "optimum"
>porosity for glaze pickup. The glaze density has to be consistent, batch
>to batch.
Now, fair is fair, and as i know i don't know as much as many here,
but as much as many, i know we would all benefit from a small
clarification
of the following: (you have no idea how many steps i can miss)
1 - forming method
2 - drying technique
3 - how to determine bisque temp for " optimum porosity "
4 - Consistant glaze density - this is my favorite, as everyone says
to mix til the consistancy of cream, but obviously we
all use different cows :)
is there a way to quantify this other than measuring the amt of
water added to the mix ?
Now, just don't ya hate to be quoted ? (Thank you, kind sir.)
cp, (wondering if repetition of one glaze is possible)
--
"And she shall have music wherever my Lady goes."
cpdunbar@concentric.net
CP Dunbar on mon 16 dec 96
Ken,
The glaze is called "Floating Blue" because it is blue w/
areas that tend to "float" on the top of the glaze.
It is wonderful, in that areas that break are a warm brown.
I have had many variations on the same glaze, and the last
is the best, so do not give up on it easily. It is worth
the time.
cp
--
"And she shall have music wherever my Lady goes."
cpdunbar@concentric.net
Edward D. Cowell on fri 16 may 97
>Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:54:43
>To: njbrager@owt.com
>From: "Edward D. Cowell"
>Subject: Floating Blue
>
>Judy: Don't know why they keep calling this "Floating Blue". Have used it
for a few years and after much trial and error have come to the following
conclusions. First of all, the red iron has to be reduced to 1%. 2%
actually gives green with the odd touch of blue, if you are lucky. The
reason you have brown is that the glaze is too thin. I have found that the
glaze must be thicker than most of my other glazes, and I have to hold it in
the glaze for a count of 8 rather than 4 which I use with other glazes. It
must be QUIETLY submersed in the glaze (don't slosh around). Doesn't work
with pouring. Believe me, this works. An added touch is giving a spray on
some areas with a red iron wash (50 Gerst. Borate, 25 Rutile and 25 Red
Iron) using a mouth atomizer or whatever you use. This seems to give a teal
blue touch. Another effective use of this glaze is on red clay. Carve a
design in a thick, wide rim of a bowl, platter, etc. when it is leather
hard. After bisque firing, completely glaze pot. Then scrape glaze from
upper surface of design (leaving glaze in hollows). Tidy up scraped surface
by rubbing with a 3M pad. BUT WEAR A MASK DURING THIS TASK!! The
contrasting red clay has a bit of a sheen and is quite stunning. My best
firing results are with the cone 5 not completely down. As you go higher,
the glaze goes greener. Sometimes I even get a look of gas firing with
"oil" spots. Good luck.
>
>Laurie Cowell,
>Waterloo, Ontario.
>
Edward D. Cowell on mon 18 aug 97
As a Floating Blue consumer, I am adding a few things I have discovered that
take the mystery out of this glaze. The consistency is much thicker than
the majority of my other glazes, and I completely submerge the pot in the
glaze for a count of 8 (rather than my usual 4). Don't swish it around.
Never fire to a Cone 6 - just to Cone 5 that is 3/4 down, if possible. The
higher you go the greener the glaze. To guarantee a blue, I have reduced
the red iron from 2% to 1%. A random spray of a red iron wash produces a
teal/blue effect sometimes.
Laurie Cowell,
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Gordon on fri 5 sep 97
I wish I knew who posted the hint about firing Floating Blue to ^5
exactly.
I just opened the kiln and got a beautiful Blue"furry" glaze rather than
the green and blue "snot" I had been getting. Thank you!!!
If anyone knows who posted that tip in the last few months let me
know I would like to thank them personally.
Just a few degrees made all the difference!
"If things seem under control you are not going fast enough"
Mario Andretti
Kathleen Gordon
Palo Alto,Ca
email:emgordon@batnet.com
voice:650-328-9164
Gracedart on sun 5 apr 98
Does anyone want to comment on the following Floating Blue :
neph sye 946
colemanite 540
silica 406
kaolin 108
red iron ox 40
cobalt ox 20
rutile dark 80
it doesn't always have a beautiful spray of blue...but then i haven't use it
often so its not fair to say it has a problem with a prefered display of blue
Grace
Artbwolfe on wed 8 apr 98
What cone are you firing it to? Is it oxidation or reduction. Please let us
know. Bev Wolfe
Cindy on thu 9 apr 98
Bev,
Floating blue is always ^5. I've never used it, however, others on the list
have warned that at ^6, it turns an unattractive greenish hue.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels
Custer, SD
USA http://blackhills-info.com/a/cindys/menu.htm
MRS SANDRA L BURKE on fri 10 apr 98
The Book I got the glaze from states that it is a cone 6. It was
working fine, a nice speckled pale blue when thick, darker where thin
and breaking red/brown over ridges. When I had to mix a new batch-----
--it is not a bad color, but just not the same. Still haven't figured
out the exact source of the problem except that i had opened a new
bag of gerstly borate. Never had it go greenish on me though.
Sandra Burke
John Termeulen on thu 5 nov 98
Judith Enright on October 27, 1989 offered her version of Floating Blue
glaze.
Cone 6 oxidation.
Frit 3134 32.8
Neph sye 43.3
EPK 13.7
Flint 10.3
Add:
Cobalt oxide 1
RIO 2
Rutile 4
Bentonite 2
My question is, what is RIO????? Would Judith or anybody familiar with
this let me know? .
I thank in you advance.
John Termeulen
Trenton, Ontario, Canada.
carrie or peter jacobson on mon 23 nov 98
In my short time as a potter, I have worked some with floating blue. I've
found that if it is not fired high enough, it's green. Like around ^5, our
community studio floating blue has been green, turning blue at ^6.
So I wouldn't go lower...
Carrie
--+++--
You wrote: ... Anyway, I mixed up test batches of every variation I've seen on
Clayart, including those with and without Gerstley Borate, and they
all, without exception, came out that rather unattractive green. You
know the one. Tried a thinner application and a slightly lower final
temp, still green. Based on what I read, I probably need to
go even lower?
Carrie Jacobson
Pawcatuck, CT
mailto:jacobson@brainiac.com
Marty Anderson on tue 24 nov 98
I use a floating blue at school and it has never fired green. It is a ^6
glaze. Here is our receipe which is diferent from some of the ones I have
seen here.
Nep Sy 47.3
Gertstley borate 27.
Silica 20.3
EPK 5.4
Red Iron Oxide 2.
Cobalt Oxide 1.
Rutile (Milled) 4. (Since I am unaware what milled means,
I use the light rutile we have)
bentonite 1.
I also dip this glaze in lieu of brushing several coats. I like the way it
breaks up with all the white cloud type effects with the spots.
I also brush on a Red Iron glaze over the floating blue to give it a deeper
see through glassy look with a copper reddish gold were it breaks. Only
brush 1/3 down outside. Looks really good on textured pots.
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: carrie or peter jacobson
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 7:48 AM
Subject: floating blue
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In my short time as a potter, I have worked some with floating blue. I've
found that if it is not fired high enough, it's green. Like around ^5, our
community studio floating blue has been green, turning blue at ^6.
So I wouldn't go lower...
Carrie
--+++--
You wrote: ... Anyway, I mixed up test batches of every variation I've seen
on
Clayart, including those with and without Gerstley Borate, and they
all, without exception, came out that rather unattractive green. You
know the one. Tried a thinner application and a slightly lower final
temp, still green. Based on what I read, I probably need to
go even lower?
Carrie Jacobson
Pawcatuck, CT
mailto:jacobson@brainiac.com
Phyllis E. Tilton on fri 27 nov 98
Marty: What is the red iron oxide glaze that you brush on over the floating
blue? I, too, do a lot of texturing and faceting. Sounds like a nice effect.
TIA
Phyllis Tilton
Daisypet@aol.com
Dorothea Gamble on sun 29 nov 98
John, If no one has replied to your "?", give yourself a Dope Slap -
RIO = Red Iron Oxide.
I'm using a floating blue myself. Good Luck to us both.
Dot
---John Termeulen wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original
message----------------------------
> Judith Enright on October 27, 1989 offered her version of Floating
Blue
> glaze.
>
> Cone 6 oxidation.
>
> Frit 3134 32.8
> Neph sye 43.3
> EPK 13.7
> Flint 10.3
>
> Add:
> Cobalt oxide 1
> RIO 2
> Rutile 4
> Bentonite 2
>
>
> My question is, what is RIO????? Would Judith or anybody familiar with
> this let me know? .
> I thank in you advance.
>
>
> John Termeulen
> Trenton, Ontario, Canada.
>
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Kim Marie on fri 19 mar 99
I too am having some trouble with this glaze. comes out kind of a yucky
green with LOTS of pinholes. Once I used it over another glaze around a
rim and it looked very nice. Haven't duplicated that result yet. Can't
figure this glaze out!
kim
kmarie@mail.odyssey.net
www.kimmariefinepottery.com
Pat logue on fri 19 mar 99
Kim
in my experience with this glaze,2 things affect it the most.
1)as someone else wrote in, the colors seem to come out much better at a
strong 5 rather than 6
2)thickness of application,too thin & its almost black, too thick& its
this grey-green your talking about(although i think temp. and thickness
work together on this)
sincerely
Pat Logue
Kim Marie wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I too am having some trouble with this glaze. comes out kind of a yucky
> green with LOTS of pinholes. Once I used it over another glaze around a
> rim and it looked very nice. Haven't duplicated that result yet. Can't
> figure this glaze out!
> kim
> kmarie@mail.odyssey.net
> www.kimmariefinepottery.com
gracie on sun 21 mar 99
Hi, Kim and all... regarding the "Yukky Green" If you fire any glaze
containing copper with the floating blue load...you get green...
However...one year at a particular show, my customers kept coming back to
me requesting that beautiful green that I had sold them previously... I
hadn't a clue.. but did have a few pots that had turned green.. Then I
realized it was my Floating Blue.. for years I just followed the recipe
without paying attention to the comments regarding the copper.. now when I
want the green.. I know how to get it...incidentally,, my green is
beautiful with no pinholes and color with great depth!! Also, sometimes the
copper seems to "linger" in the kiln and I get a few pots going to the
green side... Hope this sheds a little light.. gracie
Herb Moses on mon 22 mar 99
When floating blue is new in the bucket, it is usually fabulous. As I work
my way down, I am more likely to get a more brownish glaze. I have found
that this glaze needs to be stirred often to get a consistent color. Also,
if your kiln has a hot part, fire it there. I noticed that my ware turned
out much better when I fired it a little hotter. Try a soak at the end of
your firing to prevent some of the pinholes.
Herb
http://www.usapottery.com
Palm Springs Pottery
(opening soon)
----------
> From: Bill Williams
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: Floating Blue
> Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 3:31 PM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have been following the thread about so many folks having trouble with
> floating blue. I have problems with other glazes, but have never had a
> failure with floating blue. I follow Chappell's recipe exactly. I use 1
t
> of CMC per 100 g. and never use tap water. Connie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Marie
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 4:04 PM
> Subject: Floating Blue
>
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I too am having some trouble with this glaze. comes out kind of a yucky
> green with LOTS of pinholes. Once I used it over another glaze around a
> rim and it looked very nice. Haven't duplicated that result yet. Can't
> figure this glaze out!
> kim
> kmarie@mail.odyssey.net
> www.kimmariefinepottery.com
Tom Wirt on wed 24 mar 99
Subject: Re: Floating Blue
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>When floating blue is new in the bucket, it is usually fabulous. As I work
>my way down, I am more likely to get a more brownish glaze. I have found
>that this glaze needs to be stirred often to get a consistent color. Also,
>if your kiln has a hot part, fire it there. I noticed that my ware turned
>out much better when I fired it a little hotter. Try a soak at the end of
>your firing to prevent some of the pinholes.
>
>Herb
Herb, et al.,
I would guess what you're seeing here, but you didn't give all the details
(size of bucket, type of ware, do you add water during use) is that as you
use it, water gets pulled off and in re wetting the glaze gets diluted
and/or the deflocculation gets off balance....thus you are putting less
actual glaze on the pot. Are you checking the glaze thickness on the pot
occasionally?
Stirring.....just about all glazes should be stirred every pot you glaze.
If you look closely, a thin film of water will form on most glazes within
only a few minutes of sitting. When that happens and you dip a new pot,
then first thing you lay down is a layer of water.....then the glaze goes
over that.
We keep a 16 oz. photo measuring cup hanging on the side of each bucket.
Then before glazing every pot, 3 or 4 cups of glaze are picked up off the
surface and poured back into the bucket. This gives enough stirring to get
rid of the water.
Tom Wirt
Karin Abromaitis on sun 18 jun 00
I've looked at the Archives but can't find the Ron Roy reformulated Floating
Blue without the Gerstley Borate. Would someone please point me in the
right direction to find it? Thanks a bunch.
Kabromaitis@msn.com
"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that
we are powerful beyond measure." Nelson Mandela
Charlie and Linda Riggs on mon 19 jun 00
Karen,
Here's a copy of the various RR floating blues. #3 is a great glaze with no GB.
Linda
The original.
>Floating Blue (cone 6 ox.)
>47.3 Neph Sy
>27 Gerstley Borate
>20.3 Flint
>5.4 EPK
>2 Red Iron Ox.
>1.2 Cobalt Ox.
>4 Rutile
Total 107.2
Ratio 6.85
Expansion 504.73
#1 and 3 follow - to get #2 mix 1+3. I suggest you do it that way because
#2 just might be a possiblity and cheaper than #3. I don't know if they are
going to melt more because of the frits so be careful. Always mix at least
200 grams for tests.
#1 (RRFB) with Frit 3134.
Neph Sy - 41.0
Gers borate - 17.0
Frit 3134 - 13.0
Silica - 18.0
EPK - 11.0
Red iron - 2.0
Cobalt ox. - 1.2
Rutil - 4.0
Total - 107.2
Ratio 6.79
Expansion 502.85
#2 is #1 + #3
#3 (RRFB) with Frit 3134.
Neph Sy - 30.0
Frit 3134 - 36.0
Silica - 14.0
EPK - 20.0
Red iron - 2.0
Cobalt ox. - 1.2
Rutil - 4.0
Total - 107.2
Ratio 6.82
Expansion 502.53
The above are higher than the original in CaO because frit 3134 brings more
than is needed so the next set will be an even more exact copy.
#4 (RRFB) with Frit 3278.
Neph Sy - 37.0
Gers borate - 18.0
Frit 3278 - 12.0
Whiting - 2.0
Talc - none
Silica - 18.0
EPK - 13.0
Red iron - 2.0
Cobalt ox. - 1.2
Rutil - 4.0
Total - 107.2
Ratio 6.79
Expansion 501.92
#5 is #4 + #6
#6 (RRFB) with Frit 3278.
G200 - 22.0 < note change to G200 or Custer
Frit 3278 - 36.0
Whiting - 4.0
Talc - 3.0
Silica - 8.0
EPK - 27.0
Red iron - 2.0
Cobalt ox. - 1.2
Rutil - 4.0
Total - 107.2
Ratio 6.84
Expansion 505.59
All are durable glazes as far as I can see - including the original.
To all who try any of these - let me know how they work. It is possible
they will craze on some bodies - especialy vitrified porcelains. I can fix
that in some cases.
Ron Roy - August 1997
> I've looked at the Archives but can't find the Ron Roy reformulated Floating
> Blue without the Gerstley Borate. Would someone please point me in the
> right direction to find it? Thanks a bunch.
>
> Kabromaitis@msn.com
>
> "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that
> we are powerful beyond measure." Nelson Mandela
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Josie Norman on sat 14 jun 03
John, The problem with your floating blue glaze is , the first firing it was too thin. Take out some of the water or double dip. Second firing it was too thick. If you've cleaned off enough of the glaze that the pot won't stick to the shelf, go ahead and refire it. You've got nothing to lose. I've been firing floating blue glaze at ^8 for about five years now with great results and no snotty greens. crackedpot933@earthlink.net
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
Judy Musicant on sun 15 jun 03
I guess this comes under the heading that there's never just one right way to do anything in potteryland. I read with interest Lisa Skeen's post on how to glaze with Floating Blue :
" You don't want FB to be any thicker than whole milk in the bucket, and give
your pieces a smooth, even, in-and-out dip - don't hold 'em under more than
a second or the coating will be too thick and run off."
In my experience, unless the glaze is at least as thick as whole cream, and unless I hold the pot in the glaze for 4 or 5 seconds on both the 1st and 2nd coats, I get the ugly brown color. I rarely have running problems. I've even occasionally used 3 coats with no problem. I occasionally get some crawling, especially on bowls with thin walls, but FB is usually perfect for me. I fire it to a hard cone 5, cone 6 just barely beginning to bend. It also likes to be cooled quickly - a slow cooling schedule and I get that snot green look.
I agree with Lisa that I wouldn't bother to refire a pot with a lot of run off.
Have fun.
Judy
jean szostek on fri 26 sep 08
hi to all,
maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue =
in reduction???
thanks jean
fa520033@skynet.be
Mary Starosta on fri 26 sep 08
Jean, I took a floating Blue Cone ^6 Glaze to a cone 10 gas kiln reduction
and not good results in a comminty setting. Granted, they did not fire up
to cone 10 the first time so they had to re fire but still not good
results. My clay body was a light to med brown stoneware clay 6-10 firing
range. But at cone ^6 nice floating blue. Try red with it...VERY COOL
Reciepe Floating Blue Cone ^6 Semi glossy http://floatingblue.com/
Neph Syenite 47.3
Gerstley Borate 27.0
Silica 20.3
Kaolin EPK 5.4
Add Iron Ox red 2
cobalt ox 1
Rutile 4
Bentonite 1
Mary Starosta
Colorado Potter
http://marystarosta.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:34 AM, jean szostek wrote:
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
Edouard Bastarache on fri 26 sep 08
Hello,
I did at cone 9½:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
Gis la revido
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
Canada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "jean szostek"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: floating blue
hi to all,
maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue in
reduction???
thanks jean
fa520033@skynet.be
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jonathan byler on fri 26 sep 08
what is meant by "floating blue"
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9=BD:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating =20
> blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
>
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Edouard Bastarache on fri 26 sep 08
Here is another one :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/79076673/
Gis la revido
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
Canada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edouard Bastarache"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9½:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
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jean szostek on fri 26 sep 08
hi jon,
on the site of our helpfull alisa clausen you can see floating blue, with
photos en recipe
i presume that you now the site of alisa, it is really fantastic all the
tests she didt
greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "jonathan byler"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
what is meant by "floating blue"
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9½:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
> blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
>
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jean szostek on fri 26 sep 08
hi mary
i didt some experiments and i put a light celadon under the floating blue an
d i had a blue as it should, but even on cone 10 (seger) the glaze was not
runny, i think because of the celadon
greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Starosta"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
> Jean, I took a floating Blue Cone ^6 Glaze to a cone 10 gas kiln reduction
> and not good results in a comminty setting. Granted, they did not fire up
> to cone 10 the first time so they had to re fire but still not good
> results. My clay body was a light to med brown stoneware clay 6-10 firing
> range. But at cone ^6 nice floating blue. Try red with it...VERY COOL
>
> Reciepe Floating Blue Cone ^6 Semi glossy http://floatingblue.com/
> Neph Syenite 47.3
> Gerstley Borate 27.0
> Silica 20.3
> Kaolin EPK 5.4
> Add Iron Ox red 2
> cobalt ox 1
> Rutile 4
> Bentonite 1
> Mary Starosta
> Colorado Potter
> http://marystarosta.wordpress.com/
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:34 AM, jean szostek wrote:
>
>> hi to all,
>>
>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue
>> in
>> reduction???
>>
>> thanks jean
>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>
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Edouard Bastarache on fri 26 sep 08
Byler,
go to :
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/Floating_blue.htm
Our report is in French and English....
Gis la revido
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
Canada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "jonathan byler"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
what is meant by "floating blue"
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9½:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
> blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
>
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jean szostek on fri 26 sep 08
bonsoir mr. edouard
formidable les photos que vous avez envoyez, merçi beaucoup
les cones c'est orton ou seger, parceque j'ai fait déjà quelques testes en
réduction, cone 10 en reduction
et la couleur me satisfait
en tout cas je vais continuer encore a faire quelques testes
j'aime surtout quand il y a le vert qui sort avec le bleu
merçi encore et a la prochaine
maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des gens
qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire aussi
si longtemps
a une autre occassion beaucoup de plaisir encore jean céramicalement
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edouard Bastarache"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
Hello,
I did at cone 9½:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
Gis la revido
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
Canada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "jean szostek"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: floating blue
hi to all,
maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue in
reduction???
thanks jean
fa520033@skynet.be
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jean szostek on fri 26 sep 08
hi jon
sorry but i forget to tell you to take a look at the site of edouard
bastarache, also very interesting
bye jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "jonathan byler"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
what is meant by "floating blue"
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9½:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
> blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
>
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John Rodgers on fri 26 sep 08
Hi Jonathan,
From what I know of C6 Floating Blue, it was a glaze that originated
from the book of glazes by Chappelle. The glaze contains Rutile - which
is titanium oxide I believe - and when this melts in the glaze it
results in a good bit of movement of the glaze particles resulting in
"varigation", ie, lots of light and darker places within the glaze.
The glaze is rather finicky in getting it to fire just right. For
myself, I get pretty good consistant results, but that is because I have
an exact procedure I follow - with no variation. It works for me.
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
jonathan byler wrote:
> what is meant by "floating blue"
>
>
> jon byler
> 3-D Building Coordinator
> Art Department
> Auburn University, AL 36849
>
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I did at cone 9½:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>>
>>
>> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>>
>>
>> Gis la revido
>>
>> Edouard Bastarache
>> Spertesperantisto
>>
>> Sorel-Tracy
>> Quebec
>> Canada
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jean szostek"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
>> Subject: floating blue
>>
>>
>> hi to all,
>>
>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
>> blue in
>> reduction???
>>
>> thanks jean
>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>
Steve Slatin on sat 27 sep 08
Jean --
Rutile is a naturally occuring mineral --
it is known as titanium dioxide, but it
is never pure -- in nature, rutile=20
is always 'contaminated' with iron oxide,
and sometimes tin or chrome or a few
other things.
One of the key characteristics of rutile
(IMO) is its tetragonal shape. Anatase
(a related mineral) is tetragonal, but
has a characteristic double-elongated-
pyramid shape -- also it's relatively
rare in concentration, so we don't get
too much of it in pottery-land -- where=20
brookite (also related) is orthorhombic. =20
Ilmenite is richer in iron than rutile,
but is extremely variable in concentration,
and is orthorhombic. You can get it readily,
but since it varies so much in concentration,
I don't know of any way to make it useful
in glaze preparation -- it can vary hugely
from batch to batch.
Rutile varies somewhat, but particle size
is controllable, and crystalline shape is
consistent.
A few years ago I tried to replicate=20
a rutile effect with varying concentrations
of iron oxide and titania, but was unable
to get the variagation that rutile created.
I could get color matches to the base glaze
rather readily, just not the interesting
effects. =20
It is possible that I just needed to include
some other trace element, but I think it is
more likely that the cause for the special
effects in rutile glazes is the shape of the
particles that the mineral 'seeds' in glaze
melts.*
-- Steve S
*My reasoning is this -- I get the rutile-
specific variagation with as little as 1.5%
rutile in the glaze, and still see it at
6%. That's a huge variation. I can't get
the effect with RIO and TiO2, though I
gave a really wide range of line blending.
At 2% rutile, the 'trace' elements, each
of which is typically under 2% concentration
within the rutile, represent 2% of 2% of
the glaze, or .0004 (4 hundredths of one
percent) concentration. Adding a tenth of
a percent of, say, tin or zirconium {common
elements in rutile} into a glaze base
won't opacify it. Adding a whole percent
of RIO changes the color of most glaze bases
only slightly, sometimes not at all. It
just doesn't seem likely that trace elements
are a significant factor here. If anyone=20
has a different take on this, though, I'm
willing to be convinced ... ss
--- On Sat, 9/27/08, jean szostek wrote:
> hi john,
> i have that book to, but titanium oxide isn't mentiond
> in the recipe
> so you are making me curieus, did you make a recipe with
> titanium oxide?
> thanks greatings jean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rodgers"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>=20
>=20
> Hi Jonathan,
>=20
> From what I know of C6 Floating Blue, it was a glaze that
> originated
> from the book of glazes by Chappelle. The glaze contains
> Rutile - which
> is titanium oxide I believe - and when this melts in the
> glaze it
> results in a good bit of movement of the glaze particles
> resulting in
> "varigation", ie, lots of light and darker places
> within the glaze.
>=20
> The glaze is rather finicky in getting it to fire just
> right. For
> myself, I get pretty good consistant results, but that is
> because I have
> an exact procedure I follow - with no variation. It works
> for me.
>=20
> John Rodgers
> Chelsea, AL
>=20
> jonathan byler wrote:
> > what is meant by "floating blue"
> >
> >
> > jon byler
> > 3-D Building Coordinator
> > Art Department
> > Auburn University, AL 36849
> >
> > On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I did at cone 9=BD:
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
> >>
> >>
> >> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
> >>
> >>
> >> Gis la revido
> >>
> >> Edouard Bastarache
> >> Spertesperantisto
> >>
> >> Sorel-Tracy
> >> Quebec
> >> Canada
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> >> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> >> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "jean szostek"
>
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> >> Subject: floating blue
> >>
> >>
> >> hi to all,
> >>
> >> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone
> that fired floating
> >> blue in
> >> reduction???
> >>
> >> thanks jean
> >> fa520033@skynet.be
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Suchman ceramics on sat 27 sep 08
however seductive the french language is, i have no idea what you said... i
hope it wasn't important to me....... eric in oceanside
2008/9/27 Edouard Bastarache
> Une r=E9duction moyenne, mon ami
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>
>
> bonsoir Edouard,
>> en fait je vous suis d=E9j=E0 quelques ann=E9es, mais sur smart-conseil
>> je ne suis occuper avec la c=E9ramique depuis 6 ans, et il ya une chose =
qui
>> me
>> fait peur :je suis vraiment obs=E9der de la poterie et j'ai peur que je =
ne
>> pourrait plus faire toutes ces belles choses que je trouve sur l'
>> internet,
>> surtout dans la domaine de l'=E9mail.
>> mais quand j'ai vue votre photo sur clayart je me suis dit, et pourquoi
>> pas
>> et maintenant je travaille encore plus fort.
>> j'ai encore une petite question : pour le floating blue il faut une
>> r=E9duction forte o=F9 moyenne?
>> et bien =E7a ma fait aussi plaisier de communiquert en fran=E7ais.
>> je vais souvent en fran=E7e pour faire des march=E9 de poterie et j'aime=
bien
>> leur savoir vivre.
>> mer=E7i pour les conseils et vous souhaites a votre ami encore 20 ans de
>> plus
>> avec beaucoup de plaisier avec la poterie et bonne anniversaire meille=
ur
>> salutations jean
>> www.szostekjean.be
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>
>>
>> Bonjour Jean,
>>
>> je suis extr=EAmement ravi que quelqu'un d'autre
>> que moi puisse s'exprimer aussi bien en Fran=E7ais sur Clayart.
>>
>> "ATTABOY"
>>
>> Les c=F4nes utilis=E9s sont des Orton.
>>
>> Vous pourrez les comparer sur le site de mon grand ami Smart.Conseil.
>>
>> 1-C=F4nes Orton :
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20Orton.htm
>>
>> 2-C=F4nes Seger :
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20de%20seger.htm
>>
>> "maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des
>> gens
>> qui savent encore faire de la c=E9ramique, j'esp=E8re de savoir le faire=
aussi
>> si longtemps"
>> Le plus vieux va avoir 80 ans aujourd'hui, et le cadet est moi =E0 66ans
>> avec
>> 40 ans d'exp=E9rience en c=E9ramique.
>>
>>
>> Gis la revido
>>
>> Edouard Bastarache
>> Spertesperantisto
>>
>> Sorel-Tracy
>> Quebec
>> Canada
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jean szostek"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>
>>
>> bonsoir mr. edouard
>>> formidable les photos que vous avez envoyez, mer=E7i beaucoup
>>> les cones c'est orton ou seger, parceque j'ai fait d=E9j=E0 quelques te=
stes
>>> en
>>> r=E9duction, cone 10 en reduction
>>> et la couleur me satisfait
>>> en tout cas je vais continuer encore a faire quelques testes
>>> j'aime surtout quand il y a le vert qui sort avec le bleu
>>> mer=E7i encore et a la prochaine
>>> maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des
>>> gens
>>> qui savent encore faire de la c=E9ramique, j'esp=E8re de savoir le fair=
e
>>> aussi
>>> si longtemps
>>> a une autre occassion beaucoup de plaisir encore jean
>>> c=E9ramicalement
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I did at cone 9=BD:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>>>
>>>
>>> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>>>
>>>
>>> Gis la revido
>>>
>>> Edouard Bastarache
>>> Spertesperantisto
>>>
>>> Sorel-Tracy
>>> Quebec
>>> Canada
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "jean szostek"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
>>> Subject: floating blue
>>>
>>>
>>> hi to all,
>>>
>>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue
>>> in
>>> reduction???
>>>
>>> thanks jean
>>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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jean szostek on sat 27 sep 08
hi jon,
i found a interesting article on floating blue (blue hare fur)on the site
here below
http://www.digitalfire.com/gerstleyborate/recipes/floatingblue.html
it is a case study
greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "jonathan byler"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
what is meant by "floating blue"
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9½:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
> blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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jean szostek on sat 27 sep 08
hi john,
i have that book to, but titanium oxide isn't mentiond in the recipe
so you are making me curieus, did you make a recipe with titanium oxide?
thanks greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
Hi Jonathan,
From what I know of C6 Floating Blue, it was a glaze that originated
from the book of glazes by Chappelle. The glaze contains Rutile - which
is titanium oxide I believe - and when this melts in the glaze it
results in a good bit of movement of the glaze particles resulting in
"varigation", ie, lots of light and darker places within the glaze.
The glaze is rather finicky in getting it to fire just right. For
myself, I get pretty good consistant results, but that is because I have
an exact procedure I follow - with no variation. It works for me.
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
jonathan byler wrote:
> what is meant by "floating blue"
>
>
> jon byler
> 3-D Building Coordinator
> Art Department
> Auburn University, AL 36849
>
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I did at cone 9½:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>>
>>
>> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>>
>>
>> Gis la revido
>>
>> Edouard Bastarache
>> Spertesperantisto
>>
>> Sorel-Tracy
>> Quebec
>> Canada
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jean szostek"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
>> Subject: floating blue
>>
>>
>> hi to all,
>>
>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
>> blue in
>> reduction???
>>
>> thanks jean
>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Ric Swenson on sat 27 sep 08
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ted with iron oxide". Thus saith F. Carlton Ball and F. Hamer=2C Leach=2C=
Cardew.... and a few others..... Thus the gold of Shaner red gold and man=
y other glazes....floating blue too. Some magic stuff that.
=20
I imagine the amount of ferric contamination and titanium dioxide can vary =
according to the origin=2C ie. ore deposit and refinement....if any.
=20
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China. Postal code 333001. Mobile/cellular phone : 86 13767818872 < RicSwe=
nson0823@hotmail.com> http://www.jci.jx.cn/http://www.ricswenson.com
> Date: Sat=2C 27 Sep 2008 10:46:48 +0200> From: fa520033@SKYNET.BE> Subjec=
t: Re: floating blue> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > hi john=2C> i have th=
at book to=2C but titanium oxide isn't mentiond in the recipe> so you are m=
aking me curieus=2C did you make a recipe with titanium oxide?> thanks grea=
tings jean> ----- Original Message -----> From: "John Rodgers" R.NET>> To: > Sent: Friday=2C September 26=2C 200=
8 11:39 PM> Subject: Re: floating blue> > > Hi Jonathan=2C> > From what I k=
now of C6 Floating Blue=2C it was a glaze that originated> from the book of=
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Edouard Bastarache on sat 27 sep 08
Bonjour Jean,
je suis extrêmement ravi que quelqu'un d'autre
que moi puisse s'exprimer aussi bien en Français sur Clayart.
"ATTABOY"
Les cônes utilisés sont des Orton.
Vous pourrez les comparer sur le site de mon grand ami Smart.Conseil.
1-Cônes Orton :
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20Orton.htm
2-Cônes Seger :
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20de%20seger.htm
"maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des gens
qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire aussi
si longtemps"
Le plus vieux va avoir 80 ans aujourd'hui, et le cadet est moi à 66ans avec
40 ans d'expérience en céramique.
Gis la revido
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
Canada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "jean szostek"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
> bonsoir mr. edouard
> formidable les photos que vous avez envoyez, merçi beaucoup
> les cones c'est orton ou seger, parceque j'ai fait déjà quelques testes en
> réduction, cone 10 en reduction
> et la couleur me satisfait
> en tout cas je vais continuer encore a faire quelques testes
> j'aime surtout quand il y a le vert qui sort avec le bleu
> merçi encore et a la prochaine
> maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des gens
> qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire aussi
> si longtemps
> a une autre occassion beaucoup de plaisir encore jean
> céramicalement
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9½:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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>
>
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jean szostek on sat 27 sep 08
bonsoir Edouard,
en fait je vous suis déjà quelques années, mais sur smart-conseil
je ne suis occuper avec la céramique depuis 6 ans, et il ya une chose qui me
fait peur :je suis vraiment obséder de la poterie et j'ai peur que je ne
pourrait plus faire toutes ces belles choses que je trouve sur l' internet,
surtout dans la domaine de l'émail.
mais quand j'ai vue votre photo sur clayart je me suis dit, et pourquoi pas
et maintenant je travaille encore plus fort.
j'ai encore une petite question : pour le floating blue il faut une
réduction forte où moyenne?
et bien ça ma fait aussi plaisier de communiquert en français.
je vais souvent en françe pour faire des marché de poterie et j'aime bien
leur savoir vivre.
merçi pour les conseils et vous souhaites a votre ami encore 20 ans de plus
avec beaucoup de plaisier avec la poterie et bonne anniversaire meilleur
salutations jean
www.szostekjean.be
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edouard Bastarache"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
Bonjour Jean,
je suis extrêmement ravi que quelqu'un d'autre
que moi puisse s'exprimer aussi bien en Français sur Clayart.
"ATTABOY"
Les cônes utilisés sont des Orton.
Vous pourrez les comparer sur le site de mon grand ami Smart.Conseil.
1-Cônes Orton :
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20Orton.htm
2-Cônes Seger :
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20de%20seger.htm
"maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des gens
qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire aussi
si longtemps"
Le plus vieux va avoir 80 ans aujourd'hui, et le cadet est moi à 66ans avec
40 ans d'expérience en céramique.
Gis la revido
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
Canada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "jean szostek"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
> bonsoir mr. edouard
> formidable les photos que vous avez envoyez, merçi beaucoup
> les cones c'est orton ou seger, parceque j'ai fait déjà quelques testes en
> réduction, cone 10 en reduction
> et la couleur me satisfait
> en tout cas je vais continuer encore a faire quelques testes
> j'aime surtout quand il y a le vert qui sort avec le bleu
> merçi encore et a la prochaine
> maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des gens
> qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire aussi
> si longtemps
> a une autre occassion beaucoup de plaisir encore jean
> céramicalement
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I did at cone 9½:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>
>
> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: floating blue
>
>
> hi to all,
>
> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue in
> reduction???
>
> thanks jean
> fa520033@skynet.be
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
>
>
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jean szostek on sat 27 sep 08
hi ric ,
you are absolutely right on the rutile, it is titanium dioxide
randy mc call posted a message that i better be of to cut off the iron and
the rutile in half
so im going to do mutch experiments, i like to do
thanks for the message and good advice greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ric Swenson"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
If I remember correctly, Rutile is defined as "titanium dioxide contaminated
with iron oxide". Thus saith F. Carlton Ball and F. Hamer, Leach,
Cardew.... and a few others..... Thus the gold of Shaner red gold and many
other glazes....floating blue too. Some magic stuff that.
I imagine the amount of ferric contamination and titanium dioxide can vary
according to the origin, ie. ore deposit and refinement....if any.
Ric
"...then fiery expedition be my wing, ..." -Wm. Shakespeare, RICHARD III,
Act IV Scene III Richard H. ("Ric") Swenson, Teacher, Office of
International Cooperation and Exchange of Jingdezhen Ceramic Institute,
TaoYang Road, Eastern Suburb, Jingdezhen City.JiangXi Province, P.R. of
China. Postal code 333001. Mobile/cellular phone : 86 13767818872 <
RicSwenson0823@hotmail.com> http://www.jci.jx.cn/http://www.ricswenson.com
> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:46:48 +0200> From: fa520033@SKYNET.BE> Subject:
> Re: floating blue> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > hi john,> i have that
> book to, but titanium oxide isn't mentiond in the recipe> so you are
> making me curieus, did you make a recipe with titanium oxide?> thanks
> greatings jean> ----- Original Message -----> From: "John Rodgers"
> > To: > Sent: Friday,
> September 26, 2008 11:39 PM> Subject: Re: floating blue> > > Hi Jonathan,>
> > From what I know of C6 Floating Blue, it was a glaze that originated>
> from the book of glazes by Chappelle. The glaze contains Rutile - which>
> is titanium oxide I believe - and when this melts in the glaze it> results
> in a good bit of movement of the glaze particles resulting in>
> "varigation", ie, lots of light and darker places within the glaze.> > The
> glaze is rather finicky in getting it to fire just right. For> myself, I
> get pretty good consistant results, but that is because I have> an exact
> procedure I follow - with no variation. It works for me.> > John Rodgers>
> Chelsea, AL> > jonathan byler wrote:> > what is meant by "floating blue">
> >> >> > jon byler> > 3-D Building Coordinator> > Art Department> > Auburn
> University, AL 36849> >> > On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache
> wrote:> >> >> Hello,> >>> >> I did at cone 9½:> >>> >>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/> >>> >>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/> >>> >>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/> >>> >>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/> >>> >>> >> So you can give
> it a try ar cone 6 redux> >>> >>> >> Gis la revido> >>> >> Edouard
> Bastarache> >> Spertesperantisto> >>> >> Sorel-Tracy> >> Quebec> >>
> Canada> >>> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/> >>
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm> >>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/> >>
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/> >>> >>> >> ----- Original
> Message -----> >> From: "jean szostek" > >> To:
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM>
> >> Subject: floating blue> >>> >>> >> hi to all,> >>> >> maybe i have a
> silly question, is there anyone that fired floating> >> blue in> >>
> reduction???> >>> >> thanks jean> >> fa520033@skynet.be> >>> >>> >>>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
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John Rodgers on sat 27 sep 08
Jean,
Chappells recipe calls for Rutile.
Rutile is Ti02 - Titanium Oxide.
Regards,
John
jean szostek wrote:
> hi john,
> i have that book to, but titanium oxide isn't mentiond in the recipe
> so you are making me curieus, did you make a recipe with titanium oxide?
> thanks greatings jean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rodgers"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> From what I know of C6 Floating Blue, it was a glaze that originated
> from the book of glazes by Chappelle. The glaze contains Rutile - which
> is titanium oxide I believe - and when this melts in the glaze it
> results in a good bit of movement of the glaze particles resulting in
> "varigation", ie, lots of light and darker places within the glaze.
>
> The glaze is rather finicky in getting it to fire just right. For
> myself, I get pretty good consistant results, but that is because I have
> an exact procedure I follow - with no variation. It works for me.
>
> John Rodgers
> Chelsea, AL
>
> jonathan byler wrote:
>> what is meant by "floating blue"
>>
>>
>> jon byler
>> 3-D Building Coordinator
>> Art Department
>> Auburn University, AL 36849
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I did at cone 9½:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>>>
>>>
>>> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>>>
>>>
>>> Gis la revido
>>>
>>> Edouard Bastarache
>>> Spertesperantisto
>>>
>>> Sorel-Tracy
>>> Quebec
>>> Canada
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "jean szostek"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
>>> Subject: floating blue
>>>
>>>
>>> hi to all,
>>>
>>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
>>> blue in
>>> reduction???
>>>
>>> thanks jean
>>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
Edouard Bastarache on sat 27 sep 08
Une réduction moyenne, mon ami
Gis la revido
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
Canada
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "jean szostek"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: floating blue
> bonsoir Edouard,
> en fait je vous suis déjà quelques années, mais sur smart-conseil
> je ne suis occuper avec la céramique depuis 6 ans, et il ya une chose qui
> me
> fait peur :je suis vraiment obséder de la poterie et j'ai peur que je ne
> pourrait plus faire toutes ces belles choses que je trouve sur l'
> internet,
> surtout dans la domaine de l'émail.
> mais quand j'ai vue votre photo sur clayart je me suis dit, et pourquoi
> pas
> et maintenant je travaille encore plus fort.
> j'ai encore une petite question : pour le floating blue il faut une
> réduction forte où moyenne?
> et bien ça ma fait aussi plaisier de communiquert en français.
> je vais souvent en françe pour faire des marché de poterie et j'aime bien
> leur savoir vivre.
> merçi pour les conseils et vous souhaites a votre ami encore 20 ans de
> plus
> avec beaucoup de plaisier avec la poterie et bonne anniversaire meilleur
> salutations jean
> www.szostekjean.be
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>
>
> Bonjour Jean,
>
> je suis extrêmement ravi que quelqu'un d'autre
> que moi puisse s'exprimer aussi bien en Français sur Clayart.
>
> "ATTABOY"
>
> Les cônes utilisés sont des Orton.
>
> Vous pourrez les comparer sur le site de mon grand ami Smart.Conseil.
>
> 1-Cônes Orton :
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20Orton.htm
>
> 2-Cônes Seger :
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20de%20seger.htm
>
> "maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des
> gens
> qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire aussi
> si longtemps"
> Le plus vieux va avoir 80 ans aujourd'hui, et le cadet est moi à 66ans
> avec
> 40 ans d'expérience en céramique.
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>
>
>> bonsoir mr. edouard
>> formidable les photos que vous avez envoyez, merçi beaucoup
>> les cones c'est orton ou seger, parceque j'ai fait déjà quelques testes
>> en
>> réduction, cone 10 en reduction
>> et la couleur me satisfait
>> en tout cas je vais continuer encore a faire quelques testes
>> j'aime surtout quand il y a le vert qui sort avec le bleu
>> merçi encore et a la prochaine
>> maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des
>> gens
>> qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire
>> aussi
>> si longtemps
>> a une autre occassion beaucoup de plaisir encore jean
>> céramicalement
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I did at cone 9½:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>>
>>
>> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>>
>>
>> Gis la revido
>>
>> Edouard Bastarache
>> Spertesperantisto
>>
>> Sorel-Tracy
>> Quebec
>> Canada
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jean szostek"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
>> Subject: floating blue
>>
>>
>> hi to all,
>>
>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue
>> in
>> reduction???
>>
>> thanks jean
>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date:
>> 2008-09-26
>> 07:35
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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>> 26/09/2008
>> 7:35
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>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
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13:11
jean szostek on sun 28 sep 08
hi ,
im sorry that edouard and i did speak french
but i askt him : is the reduction medium or heavy and the answer was medium
greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Suchman ceramics"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: floating blue
however seductive the french language is, i have no idea what you said... i
hope it wasn't important to me....... eric in oceanside
2008/9/27 Edouard Bastarache
> Une réduction moyenne, mon ami
>
>
> Gis la revido
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> Canada
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jean szostek"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: floating blue
>
>
> bonsoir Edouard,
>> en fait je vous suis déjà quelques années, mais sur smart-conseil
>> je ne suis occuper avec la céramique depuis 6 ans, et il ya une chose qui
>> me
>> fait peur :je suis vraiment obséder de la poterie et j'ai peur que je ne
>> pourrait plus faire toutes ces belles choses que je trouve sur l'
>> internet,
>> surtout dans la domaine de l'émail.
>> mais quand j'ai vue votre photo sur clayart je me suis dit, et pourquoi
>> pas
>> et maintenant je travaille encore plus fort.
>> j'ai encore une petite question : pour le floating blue il faut une
>> réduction forte où moyenne?
>> et bien ça ma fait aussi plaisier de communiquert en français.
>> je vais souvent en françe pour faire des marché de poterie et j'aime bien
>> leur savoir vivre.
>> merçi pour les conseils et vous souhaites a votre ami encore 20 ans de
>> plus
>> avec beaucoup de plaisier avec la poterie et bonne anniversaire
>> meilleur
>> salutations jean
>> www.szostekjean.be
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>
>>
>> Bonjour Jean,
>>
>> je suis extrêmement ravi que quelqu'un d'autre
>> que moi puisse s'exprimer aussi bien en Français sur Clayart.
>>
>> "ATTABOY"
>>
>> Les cônes utilisés sont des Orton.
>>
>> Vous pourrez les comparer sur le site de mon grand ami Smart.Conseil.
>>
>> 1-Cônes Orton :
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20Orton.htm
>>
>> 2-Cônes Seger :
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/cones%20de%20seger.htm
>>
>> "maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des
>> gens
>> qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire
>> aussi
>> si longtemps"
>> Le plus vieux va avoir 80 ans aujourd'hui, et le cadet est moi à 66ans
>> avec
>> 40 ans d'expérience en céramique.
>>
>>
>> Gis la revido
>>
>> Edouard Bastarache
>> Spertesperantisto
>>
>> Sorel-Tracy
>> Quebec
>> Canada
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jean szostek"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>
>>
>> bonsoir mr. edouard
>>> formidable les photos que vous avez envoyez, merçi beaucoup
>>> les cones c'est orton ou seger, parceque j'ai fait déjà quelques testes
>>> en
>>> réduction, cone 10 en reduction
>>> et la couleur me satisfait
>>> en tout cas je vais continuer encore a faire quelques testes
>>> j'aime surtout quand il y a le vert qui sort avec le bleu
>>> merçi encore et a la prochaine
>>> maintenant je pense a une photo avec vos amis, formidable de voir des
>>> gens
>>> qui savent encore faire de la céramique, j'espère de savoir le faire
>>> aussi
>>> si longtemps
>>> a une autre occassion beaucoup de plaisir encore jean
>>> céramicalement
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Edouard Bastarache"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I did at cone 9½:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>>>
>>>
>>> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>>>
>>>
>>> Gis la revido
>>>
>>> Edouard Bastarache
>>> Spertesperantisto
>>>
>>> Sorel-Tracy
>>> Quebec
>>> Canada
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "jean szostek"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
>>> Subject: floating blue
>>>
>>>
>>> hi to all,
>>>
>>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating blue
>>> in
>>> reduction???
>>>
>>> thanks jean
>>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date:
>>> 2008-09-26
>>> 07:35
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date:
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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13:11
John Rodgers on sun 28 sep 08
Geez, I really hate it when I make a mis-quote!!
The Rutile is Titanium DI-OXIDE!
Not Titanium oxide as I wrote it!
Sorry about that.
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
John Rodgers wrote:
> Jean,
>
> Chappells recipe calls for Rutile.
>
> Rutile is Ti02 - Titanium Oxide.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> jean szostek wrote:
>> hi john,
>> i have that book to, but titanium oxide isn't mentiond in the recipe
>> so you are making me curieus, did you make a recipe with titanium oxide?
>> thanks greatings jean
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Rodgers"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: floating blue
>>
>>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> From what I know of C6 Floating Blue, it was a glaze that originated
>> from the book of glazes by Chappelle. The glaze contains Rutile - which
>> is titanium oxide I believe - and when this melts in the glaze it
>> results in a good bit of movement of the glaze particles resulting in
>> "varigation", ie, lots of light and darker places within the glaze.
>>
>> The glaze is rather finicky in getting it to fire just right. For
>> myself, I get pretty good consistant results, but that is because I have
>> an exact procedure I follow - with no variation. It works for me.
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> Chelsea, AL
>>
>> jonathan byler wrote:
>>> what is meant by "floating blue"
>>>
>>>
>>> jon byler
>>> 3-D Building Coordinator
>>> Art Department
>>> Auburn University, AL 36849
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Edouard Bastarache wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I did at cone 9½:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/122995041/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/82697797/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/44509827/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you can give it a try ar cone 6 redux
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gis la revido
>>>>
>>>> Edouard Bastarache
>>>> Spertesperantisto
>>>>
>>>> Sorel-Tracy
>>>> Quebec
>>>> Canada
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>>>> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/20321056/
>>>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "jean szostek"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:34 PM
>>>> Subject: floating blue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hi to all,
>>>>
>>>> maybe i have a silly question, is there anyone that fired floating
>>>> blue in
>>>> reduction???
>>>>
>>>> thanks jean
>>>> fa520033@skynet.be
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.3/1693 - Release Date:
>>>> 2008-09-26
>>>> 07:35
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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