Talbott on mon 5 may 97
Can Glass Blowing or glass making be considered a "ceramic art" ????
1ST ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1997)
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Celia & Marshall Talbott, Pottery By Celia, Route 114, P O Box 4116,
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Jeremy/Bonnie Hellman on tue 6 may 97
Marshall, it may not be (strictly speaking) a ceramic art, but I've seen
shops selling pottery that also sell other "arts" like glass and
photographs. Whatever will sell....
BTW how did you envision that mug exchange?
Bonnie
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>Can Glass Blowing or glass making be considered a "ceramic art" ????
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> 1ST ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1997)
> http://fmc.utm.edu/~dmcbeth/cag/naples.htm
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> Celia & Marshall Talbott, Pottery By Celia, Route 114, P O Box 4116,
> Naples, Maine 04055-4116,(207)693-6100 voice and fax,(call first)
> WBS Live Chat Room, Sat Nites 10 PM EDT, Private Room: Clayarters
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Fay & Ralph Loewenthal on wed 7 may 97
Marshall, I am starting to plan kilns / furnace and glory
hole for glass blowing. I feel in my case it is a
progression from or extension to my pottery work.
Glazing is glasswork so the two disciplines are really
close relatives. In any case it is very exciting studying
reference works and organizing materials to get going. I
am not sure if it will be economically feasible to have a
furnace and glory hole at all, but there is a lot of
glasswork that is quite easily done in an electric kiln.
Hope this helps Ralph in PE SA
PS I do not know if Bonnie mentioned it, but we met in
the Clayarters chatroom last Sunday at 19h00 our time,
after a lot of hassles for Toni and myself. There is a plan
to meet again this Sunday, unfortunately I have other
arrangements at that time, but Toni will most probably be
there.
Olivia T Cavy on thu 8 may 97
Ralph- sorry we will not get to enjoy your company this coming Sunday.
Actually I think there is a similar mental state among potters and glass
blowers. The goals are 3 dimensional objects. Both require a fair
amount of technical skills as well as artistic skills. Generally, both
are more abstract than realistic. I have never tried glass blowing,
but we have a friend who is a full time artistic glass blower. (I
understand that there are industrial glass blowers as well.) The
last time I spoke with Sam the glass blower, he had commented
that he was thinking of getting a wheel and doing some clay
which he had not done for a number of years.
Thanks again for your help in relaying Toni's message last
week. I'll be out of town May 18th but maybe we'll connect on
May 25th.
Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh
Home email: mou10man@sgi.net
This is work email: oliviatcavy@juno.com
On Wed, 7 May 1997 08:47:33 EDT Fay & Ralph Loewenthal
writes:
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>message----------------------------
>Marshall, I am starting to plan kilns / furnace and glory
>hole for glass blowing. I feel in my case it is a
>progression from or extension to my pottery work.
>Glazing is glasswork so the two disciplines are really
>close relatives. In any case it is very exciting studying
>reference works and organizing materials to get going. I
>am not sure if it will be economically feasible to have a
>furnace and glory hole at all, but there is a lot of
>glasswork that is quite easily done in an electric kiln.
>Hope this helps Ralph in PE SA
>PS I do not know if Bonnie mentioned it, but we met in
>the Clayarters chatroom last Sunday at 19h00 our time,
>after a lot of hassles for Toni and myself. There is a plan
>to meet again this Sunday, unfortunately I have other
>arrangements at that time, but Toni will most probably be
>there.
>
Donald E. Williamson II on fri 9 may 97
Williamson wrote:
Glass Blowing Can be considered I think, as a ceramic art. Having a
family of glass blowers around our pottery studio, and having Blown
glass myself now for a couple of years. It seems that not only the fact
that Ceramics lead to the discovery of glass by the anchient Egyptian
and Roman Empires, but many pottery studios work in conjunction with
pottery studios being that the two arts require the same resources (gas,
electric, and consumers).
Vessel form and design are closely related because they serve the same
purposes. Many sayings about Glassblowing hold true for ceramics as
well, I think understanding one will naturally lead you to the other.
It may interest some to know that where ever glassware is sold for art
or use there is also a market for Pottery.
****Glass is Wonderfull*****
Donald E. Williamson II
(Student-Artist)
San Bernardino Valley College
doneugene@hotmail.com
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> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Can Glass Blowing or glass making be considered a "ceramic art" ????
>
> 1ST ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1997)
> http://fmc.utm.edu/~dmcbeth/cag/naples.htm
>
> Celia & Marshall Talbott, Pottery By Celia, Route 114, P O Box 4116,
> Naples, Maine 04055-4116,(207)693-6100 voice and fax,(call first)
> WBS Live Chat Room, Sat Nites 10 PM EDT, Private Room: Clayarters
M Richens on sat 10 may 97
In article , Talbott
writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Can Glass Blowing or glass making be considered a "ceramic art" ????
>
> 1ST ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1997)
> http://fmc.utm.edu/~dmcbeth/cag/naples.htm
>
> Celia & Marshall Talbott, Pottery By Celia, Route 114, P O Box 4116,
> Naples, Maine 04055-4116,(207)693-6100 voice and fax,(call first)
> WBS Live Chat Room, Sat Nites 10 PM EDT, Private Room: Clayarters
Hi,
Sorry about coming in late but there have been problems with the ISP.
Simple answer.. Of Course it can.
You watch a scientific glass blower producing a complex piece of
apparatus from a rough sketch, thinking through how to do it and you
will realise the artistry involved. It is no less art than a favourite
vase (like the little 1920 Langley one that I like so much or the 1950s
Waterford Crystal one which my wife loves)
The limitations of the viewer or audience are what keeps something from
being seen as 'ART'. (I may not know much about art but I know
what I like...)
The imagination of the creator may always see the art but it may need a
particular audience to agree..
Opinion mode off
Max
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Enamel Consultant - Ceramist - Analyst programmer
Software for Batch Formulation and Millroom control.
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