Steven Goldstein on mon 8 apr 96
Someone recently listed test results to the following ^6 glazes but not the
recipes.
I would sure appreciate these recipes:
Golden Fake Ash
Metallic Black
Klinesville Gold
Smokey Brown
Floating Red
Celedon
Thanks!
Susan Raku@aol.com
Tosca Gazer on fri 25 oct 96
I'm hoping you can help me to clarify something. I have tried two of the
glaze recipes which are listed -- one with success and the other without. I
believe the reason is the "added" ingredients which should be listed as
percentages of the total ingredients. For example: Super Deluxe glaze
states - also add 26.11 red iron oxide. If I read this correctly, this
would translate into 26.1 percent of the total ingredients listed.
Obviously, I'm not reading this right. I tried 2.6 percent (resulting in
ginger) and then 5.7 percent which came close to the description. Any help
you could give me would be greatly appreciated since there are several
glazes that I would like to try. I love browsing through the site . . .
Emily Pearlman on sat 26 oct 96
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I'm hoping you can help me to clarify something. I have tried two of the
>glaze recipes which are listed -- one with success and the other without. I
>believe the reason is the "added" ingredients which should be listed as
>percentages of the total ingredients. For example: Super Deluxe glaze
>states - also add 26.11 red iron oxide. If I read this correctly, this
>would translate into 26.1 percent of the total ingredients listed.
>Obviously, I'm not reading this right. I tried 2.6 percent (resulting in
>ginger) and then 5.7 percent which came close to the description. Any help
>you could give me would be greatly appreciated since there are several
>glazes that I would like to try. I love browsing through the site . . .
Hi Tosca:
I came in on this in the middle and dont know what glaze you are looking
for, but the % at the end of the glaze recipies usually mean % of the total
above ingredients, not including the the colorents. and its usuall % of
100. (I think I didnt say that too clearly, but its late.) But my main
point of this is that I used to use a glaze called Super Delux that had
alot of red iorn oxide in it(RIO) and it was much redder if we used
synthetic RIO than if we used regular RIO. Perhaps its the same recipie
and thats the problem. If you send me your recipie, I'll check it against
mine.
Emily
Emily Pearlman-Pottery (clayfeat@echonyc.com)
http://humanarts.com/emilypearlman
http://www.craftweb.com/org/pearlman/pearlman.htm
(in NYC)
John Olson on thu 12 sep 02
I was lucky to attend a workshop this past June at the Appalachian Center =
for the Crafts. Its a great to attend a workshop. The one I attended was =
with Harry Hearne, Throwing and Raku. Harry was and is a wonderful potter, =
the techniques he shared were so well presented. The last day of the =
workshop Harry got the group in a circle, passed out certificates of =
completion and shared with that he would send each of us a list of the =
glaze recipes. I have waited, and waited, sent a self addressed envelope...=
..sent a seconf letter, and have heard nothing.......as a potter I would =
be reluctant to share recipes, but if one says they will do it then maybe =
they should.
Wes Rolley on wed 26 may 04
At 05:31 PM 5/26/04 -0400, you wrote:
I use primarily ash glazes and the best starting point for me was to read=20
Phil Rogers book "Ash Glazes" in either edition. It offers a lot of=20
insight into the practices of working with ash glazes and a lot of recipes=
=20
along with pictures of the works.
Wes
>hi out there...
>i am interested in ash glazes and rutile glazes at the moment and need
>some info on them. i am firing at cone ten reduction and also have some
>access to cone six firing. i was wondering if there was anyone who could
>share a couple of recipes with me that i could mess around with or some
>information that could be helpful to me.
>thanks for taking the time.
>sara
>
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(408)778-3024
sara_gabel@hotmail.com on wed 26 may 04
hi out there...
i am interested in ash glazes and rutile glazes at the moment and need
some info on them. i am firing at cone ten reduction and also have some
access to cone six firing. i was wondering if there was anyone who could
share a couple of recipes with me that i could mess around with or some
information that could be helpful to me.
thanks for taking the time.
sara
jen on mon 31 jan 05
Hi
was wondering if anyone out there knows of a source for "vintage" glaze
recipes. I am interested in trying to replicate the soft sage green matte
glazes of the arts and crafts potters, more specifically the vases and
ware created by the Rookwood and Roseville Cos. during that era. Any input
would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,
Jen
dewitt on mon 31 jan 05
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:53:04 -0500, jen wrote:
> Hi
> was wondering if anyone out there knows of a source for "vintage" glaze
> recipes. I am interested in trying to replicate the soft sage green matte
> glazes of the arts and crafts potters, more specifically the vases and
> ware created by the Rookwood and Roseville Cos. during that era. Any input
> would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,
> Jen
Here are some real vintage glaze recipes -
http://www.mspong.org/cyclopedia/pottery.html
Probably not what you want though. :-)
deg
Louis Katz on mon 31 jan 05
A Manual for Practical Potting, by Binns (I think).
It will be hard to find except by interlibrary loan.
Louis
On Jan 31, 2005, at 1:53 PM, jen wrote:
> Hi
> was wondering if anyone out there knows of a source for "vintage" glaze
> recipes. I am interested in trying to replicate the soft sage green
> matte
> glazes of the arts and crafts potters, more specifically the vases and
> ware created by the Rookwood and Roseville Cos. during that era. Any
> input
> would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,
> Jen
>
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http://falcon.tamucc.edu/~lkatz/LK/index.htm
John Britt on mon 31 jan 05
Jen,
There is a book "Aselaide Alsop Robineau", that has some vintage recipes.
Hope it helps,
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
Carol Ross on tue 1 feb 05
oops, John, there's a typo... It's Adelaide Alsop Robineau. She was a
U. City potter - and I'm a University City native . I checked
online... an ex-lib paperback copy is $99! Jen - check the library!
Carol R.
One of several Clayart Carols...
http://homepage.mac.com/portfolio.carolross/Menu4.html
On Jan 31, 2005, at 7:18 PM, John Britt wrote:
> Jen,
>
> There is a book "Aselaide Alsop Robineau", that has some vintage
> recipes.
> John Britt
> www.johnbrittpottery.com
John Britt on wed 2 feb 05
I may have gotten it from the Potter's Shop?
But try Inter-Library loan. Then Xerox what you need!
Don't let minor obstacles, like typo's, stop you.
Hope it helps,
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
Kathi LeSueur on thu 10 nov 05
Often glaze recipes appear on Clayart without adequate information. For
the future I would request that every time a recipe is listed that it
include the cone fired to and whether it is an oxidation or reduction
glaze. I know that many of those on the list fire only cone 6 oxidation,
but others of us don't and without that information there is no way to
tell whether or not we should test a glaze.
Thanks,
Kathi
LindaC on thu 2 mar 06
It is better to be kind than to be right--Mickey Rooney
John Rodgers on mon 15 nov 10
Chappell's Floating Blue is really good on Laguna B-mix at cone 5 or
5-1/2. Mottled blue and breaks brown over edges and carving. If you
take it to a cone 6 it gives some very interesting mottled blue/green
coloration and breaking brown. One caveat - at cone 6 it has a tendency
to form bubbles in the glaze, especially where the clay is thin, i.e.,
- it becomes a bit iffy and you may or may not get a good, usable piece
because of the sharp edges of the bubbles. Above cone 6 the glaze goes
snot green!
John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com
On 11/15/2010 11:38 AM, ELAINE CARROLL wrote:
> I am looking for a few glaze recipes to use with Laguna B Mix cone 5 clay=
. I am trying to develop a small pallet of colors for this clay body. Elai=
ne Carroll
>
>
ELAINE CARROLL on mon 15 nov 10
I am looking for a few glaze recipes to use with Laguna B Mix cone 5 clay.=
=3D
=3DA0 I am trying to develop a small pallet of colors for this clay body. E=
la=3D
ine Carroll
Shula on mon 15 nov 10
I use Aardvark cone 5 bee mix which is similar. Most of my glazes for funct=
=3D
ional ware are from Mastering Cone 6 glazes by Ron and John on this list. G=
=3D
reat book. Great guys. If you want to see what they look like on Aardvark b=
=3D
ee mix and more recently on Nara cone 5, check out my etsy site, www.claymy=
=3D
stique.etsy.com.=3D20
A few months ago I received a convo on etsy from someone who recognized the=
=3D
MC6G glazes. Pretty funny. I must admit, occasionally I see something on e=
=3D
tsy that seems to be one of the glazes as well.
Shula
Desert Hot Springs, California, USA
=3D20
-----Original Message-----
>From: ELAINE CARROLL
>
>I am looking for a few glaze recipes to use with Laguna B Mix cone 5 clay.=
=3D
=3DC2=3DA0 I am trying to develop a small pallet of colors for this clay bo=
dy. =3D
Elaine Carroll
Shula
Desert Hot Springs, California USA
www.claymystique.etsy.com
Miri Hardy on tue 16 nov 10
Hi Elaine:
I use Laguna B Mix 5 (I get mine from Axner/Laguna in Florida). I almost=
=3D
=3D20
exclusively use glazes from John and Ron's wonderful 'Mastering Cone 6 gl=
=3D
azes'=3D20
as well as variations on their base recipes.=3D20=3D20
You can see many examples of the glazes and glaze combos on my Facebook=3D2=
0=3D
page (don't need a Facebook account to see it):=3D20=3D20
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3D3D257167&id=3D3D174600457697
Let me know if you have any questions.
All the best,
Miri in PR
___________________________________________________
www.rinconpottery.com
www.facebook.com/rinconpottery
mel jacobson on tue 1 may 12
i approach glazes like i do food recipes.
i want the basic theory, the idea...like lasagna or bread or pot roast.
there are a thousand variations of lasagna, who knows
the best one? i try to combine things that i like, then
i have the idea to work with.
i sure do not want a lock step system that i copy. `the recipe.`
i spend my entire life trying to get pots from my kiln
that look like i made them.
the world if art repeats and repeats...`my own voice`.
yet, how often do we see copy this, copy that? we have been in
post modern mode for 50 years.
my appentice uses my clay, my glazes and my kiln.
i fire the kiln.
her pots never look like mine. it may seem odd, but
they don't.
her rhodes combinations are totally different than mine.
her timing is totally different than mine...in fact sharlene
said the other day...`my goodness she does a nice variation
on your glazes.`
when we fire my glazes at the farm...they change again.
bob anderson uses rhodes 32 all the time... sometime from my buckets...
and his pots always look like bob anderson. on occassion
i have asked him `bob, what is that glaze?` he says...`rhodes 32`,
hmmm. yes, it can be that different.
but, remember, he does not ever use my clay body.
i still remember warren mackenzie saying....`clay body perhaps has more
influence on your finished pot than glaze`.
but then, it matters not too much, we all get to do whatever we want
when we walk into our studio. it is always `up to the individual`.
mel
from: minnetonka, mn
website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
John Britt on tue 1 may 12
Glaze recipes are like cooling recipes and you can make great lasagna by=3D=
20=3D
getting a recipe, reading the directions and cooking it.=3D20
Sure it is not the EXACT one in the recipe but thousands of recipe books =
=3D
and=3D20
cooks who have had success prove that recipes travel well.
The same with glazes. They travel well - so stop with the disinformation.=
=3D
Tom Turner is no different than any other other potter. They find recipes=
=3D
try=3D20
them, adjust something, then try again. Tom is actually proof that glaze=3D=
20=3D
recipes travel well. I gave him all my oil spot recipes, he tried them an=
=3D
d got=3D20
good results, just like people in Australia, Europe, and South America. T=
=3D
hat is=3D20
exactly what is supposed to happen.=3D20
The problem is when those potters try to say that what they are doing is=3D=
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special and even if they tell you the recipes you won't be able to get th=
=3D
e same=3D20
glaze. That is complete bull. Especially since they just got the benefit =
=3D
of glaze=3D20
sharing!
Come on!
Johnbrittpottery.com
Robert Harris on tue 1 may 12
I totally agree with John about recipes travelling. For a given
definition of the word recipe.
In this case the word recipe also includes exact heating and cooling
curves (how does your oven perform), mixing information (souffles are
all about how to fold egg whites properly), etc etc.
A mere list of ingredients doesn't work. BUT nor does it work for
cooking. The best cookbooks give detailed instructions on preparation,
cooking times and temperatures etc etc.
I have used John's recipes in my electric kiln (at least the ones for
oxidation firing). And they work - to a point. BUT I fire to 9 and a
bit (not 10) and while I fire down to mimic a well insulated gas kiln
I'm sure the curves are not the same (mine is probably more similar to
a crystal firing without the long holds).
HOWEVER, they are close enough that I can get what I want out them
with a bit of fiddling. But that is true of all recipes. Personally I
don't like the amount of sugar that goes into everything down here in
the South - too sweet for me to eat. So if I get a recipe from a
friend I know I'm going to have to cut the sugar in half even before I
start.
Robert
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:57 AM, John Britt wro=
te:
> Glaze recipes are like cooling recipes and you can make great lasagna by
> getting a recipe, reading the directions and cooking it.
>
> Sure it is not the EXACT one in the recipe but thousands of recipe books =
and
> cooks who have had success prove that recipes travel well.
>
> The same with glazes. They travel well - so stop with the disinformation.
>
> Tom Turner is no different than any other other potter. They find recipes=
try
> them, adjust something, then try again. Tom is actually proof that glaze
> recipes travel well. I gave him all my oil spot recipes, he tried them an=
d got
> good results, just like people in Australia, Europe, and South America. T=
hat is
> exactly what is supposed to happen.
>
> The problem is when those potters try to say that what they are doing is
> special and even if they tell you the recipes you won't be able to get th=
e same
> glaze. That is complete bull. Especially since they just got the benefit =
of glaze
> sharing!
>
> Come on!
>
> Johnbrittpottery.com
--
----------------------------------------------------------
John Britt on tue 1 may 12
I am totally with you. That is what is supposed to happen. Glazes do travel
well. Then, you do with them what you want! That is creativity.
But imagine you had to start from scratch. Imagine every bread baker had to
invent each recipe!
I little head start is worth a lot!
johnbrittpottery.com
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Robert Harris wro=
te:
> I totally agree with John about recipes travelling. For a given
> definition of the word recipe.
>
> In this case the word recipe also includes exact heating and cooling
> curves (how does your oven perform), mixing information (souffles are
> all about how to fold egg whites properly), etc etc.
>
> A mere list of ingredients doesn't work. BUT nor does it work for
> cooking. The best cookbooks give detailed instructions on preparation,
> cooking times and temperatures etc etc.
>
> I have used John's recipes in my electric kiln (at least the ones for
> oxidation firing). And they work - to a point. BUT I fire to 9 and a
> bit (not 10) and while I fire down to mimic a well insulated gas kiln
> I'm sure the curves are not the same (mine is probably more similar to
> a crystal firing without the long holds).
>
> HOWEVER, they are close enough that I can get what I want out them
> with a bit of fiddling. But that is true of all recipes. Personally I
> don't like the amount of sugar that goes into everything down here in
> the South - too sweet for me to eat. So if I get a recipe from a
> friend I know I'm going to have to cut the sugar in half even before I
> start.
>
> Robert
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:57 AM, John Britt
> wrote:
> > Glaze recipes are like cooling recipes and you can make great lasagna b=
y
> > getting a recipe, reading the directions and cooking it.
> >
> > Sure it is not the EXACT one in the recipe but thousands of recipe book=
s
> and
> > cooks who have had success prove that recipes travel well.
> >
> > The same with glazes. They travel well - so stop with the disinformatio=
n.
> >
> > Tom Turner is no different than any other other potter. They find
> recipes try
> > them, adjust something, then try again. Tom is actually proof that glaz=
e
> > recipes travel well. I gave him all my oil spot recipes, he tried them
> and got
> > good results, just like people in Australia, Europe, and South America.
> That is
> > exactly what is supposed to happen.
> >
> > The problem is when those potters try to say that what they are doing i=
s
> > special and even if they tell you the recipes you won't be able to get
> the same
> > glaze. That is complete bull. Especially since they just got the benefi=
t
> of glaze
> > sharing!
> >
> > Come on!
> >
> > Johnbrittpottery.com
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
--
Regards,
John
AWESOME VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/johnbrittpottery
AWESOME BLOG: http://ncclayclub.blogspot.com
WEBPAGE: www.johnbrittpottery.com
Ben Morrison on tue 1 may 12
One of my instructors in college makes glaze similarly to how my mother mak=
es pie. My mother has a recipe, in fact she was a master baker and a profes=
sional baker for a career. However when she made pie for me, she always jus=
t used her hands, no measuring devices. Her pie was always "mom's pie" but =
each time was always a tiny variation on the last. Might have a smidge more=
cinnamon, or a smidge less, etc. In my mother's case as in my instructor i=
t was the same reason, they had both made so many that shear boredom had fo=
rced shifts in different directions. That instructor had used a variation o=
f that same glaze since the 70's, and still uses a variation of it today.
A recipe does create a specific glaze, but we all have our own take on what=
we think pots should look like. I take any recipe I'm interested in using =
and mess around with it in basic line blends just to see where things are h=
appening. Some might find line blends tedious and boring, but I personally =
have found the most interesting things, just messing around.
-Ben
________________________________
From: John Britt
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: glaze recipes
Glaze recipes are like cooling recipes and you can make great lasagna by
getting a recipe, reading the directions and cooking it.
Sure it is not the EXACT one in the recipe but thousands of recipe books an=
d
cooks who have had success prove that recipes travel well.
The same with glazes. They travel well - so stop with the disinformation.
Tom Turner is no different than any other other potter. They find recipes t=
ry
them, adjust something, then try again. Tom is actually proof that glaze
recipes travel well. I gave him all my oil spot recipes, he tried them and =
got
good results, just like people in Australia, Europe, and South America. Tha=
t is
exactly what is supposed to happen.
The problem is when those potters try to say that what they are doing is
special and even if they tell you the recipes you won't be able to get the =
same
glaze. That is complete bull. Especially since they just got the benefit of=
glaze
sharing!
Come on!
Johnbrittpottery.com
Edouard Bastarache on tue 1 may 12
John,.
it is easy to test them and see what happens.
At least if the bases are good you can colour them
whichever way you desire, inspired by your own
experience/knowledge or from charts of colourants
already published.
Nothing replaces testing,,,
Plejkore,
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
http://smart2000.pagesperso-orange.fr/bloggs_edouard.htm
http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Britt"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: glaze recipes
>I am totally with you. That is what is supposed to happen. Glazes do trave=
l
> well. Then, you do with them what you want! That is creativity.
>
> But imagine you had to start from scratch. Imagine every bread baker had
> to
> invent each recipe!
>
> I little head start is worth a lot!
>
> johnbrittpottery.com
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Robert Harris
> wrote:
>
>> I totally agree with John about recipes travelling. For a given
>> definition of the word recipe.
>>
>> In this case the word recipe also includes exact heating and cooling
>> curves (how does your oven perform), mixing information (souffles are
>> all about how to fold egg whites properly), etc etc.
>>
>> A mere list of ingredients doesn't work. BUT nor does it work for
>> cooking. The best cookbooks give detailed instructions on preparation,
>> cooking times and temperatures etc etc.
>>
>> I have used John's recipes in my electric kiln (at least the ones for
>> oxidation firing). And they work - to a point. BUT I fire to 9 and a
>> bit (not 10) and while I fire down to mimic a well insulated gas kiln
>> I'm sure the curves are not the same (mine is probably more similar to
>> a crystal firing without the long holds).
>>
>> HOWEVER, they are close enough that I can get what I want out them
>> with a bit of fiddling. But that is true of all recipes. Personally I
>> don't like the amount of sugar that goes into everything down here in
>> the South - too sweet for me to eat. So if I get a recipe from a
>> friend I know I'm going to have to cut the sugar in half even before I
>> start.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:57 AM, John Britt
>> wrote:
>> > Glaze recipes are like cooling recipes and you can make great lasagna
>> > by
>> > getting a recipe, reading the directions and cooking it.
>> >
>> > Sure it is not the EXACT one in the recipe but thousands of recipe
>> > books
>> and
>> > cooks who have had success prove that recipes travel well.
>> >
>> > The same with glazes. They travel well - so stop with the
>> > disinformation.
>> >
>> > Tom Turner is no different than any other other potter. They find
>> recipes try
>> > them, adjust something, then try again. Tom is actually proof that
>> > glaze
>> > recipes travel well. I gave him all my oil spot recipes, he tried them
>> and got
>> > good results, just like people in Australia, Europe, and South America=
.
>> That is
>> > exactly what is supposed to happen.
>> >
>> > The problem is when those potters try to say that what they are doing
>> > is
>> > special and even if they tell you the recipes you won't be able to get
>> the same
>> > glaze. That is complete bull. Especially since they just got the
>> > benefit
>> of glaze
>> > sharing!
>> >
>> > Come on!
>> >
>> > Johnbrittpottery.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> AWESOME VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/johnbrittpottery
>
> AWESOME BLOG: http://ncclayclub.blogspot.com
>
> WEBPAGE: www.johnbrittpottery.com
>
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