Xuxan Peterson on tue 4 jun 96
Hi
Currently I am a student at Mass College of Art. I am hoping to attend
grad school next year. In 10 days I will be in the San Francisco area and
would like to visit ceramic grad programs. Any one have any info/
suggestions? So far I have only what the local library grad school guide to
go on. Any good show recommendations would also be appreciated. If any
info on Mass art is needed I'm glad to advise however I can. Thanks a
bunch in advance.
Mark Burleson on tue 4 jun 96
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hi
>Currently I am a student at Mass College of Art. I am hoping to attend
>grad school next year. In 10 days I will be in the San Francisco area and
>would like to visit ceramic grad programs. Any one have any info/
>suggestions? So far I have only what the local library grad school guide to
>go on. Any good show recommendations would also be appreciated. If any
>info on Mass art is needed I'm glad to advise however I can. Thanks a
>bunch in advance.
Hi, Re: Grad School, Mark Burleson here, now in Asheville, NC. I was at
the Boston Museum School just a few years ago, and then went back to the
Bay Area for Grad School. I went to Mills College in Oakland where I
studied with Ron Nagel. I reccommend it, it was a great experience for
me...very fine art oriented though, not production or craft. Also in the
area is San Francisco Art Institute, California College of Art's & Crafts
and San Francisco State University and University of California at Davis.
Hope this is helpful.
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Patrick & Lynn Hilferty on wed 5 jun 96
>Currently I am a student at Mass College of Art. I am hoping to attend
>grad school next year. In 10 days I will be in the San Francisco area and
>would like to visit ceramic grad programs. Any one have any info/
>suggestions? So far I have only what the local library grad school guide to
>go on. Any good show recommendations would also be appreciated. If any
>info on Mass art is needed I'm glad to advise however I can. Thanks a
>bunch in advance.
San Francisco St., San Jose St., C.S.U. Hayward, Mills Collage, San
Francisco Art Institute, U.C. Berkley, U.C. Davis, Califonia Collage of
Arts and Crafts, It's hard to go too wrong with these places. I would
suggest that you make a visit to these places when the faculty is available
(school's out at these places and NOBODY is around) and bring your all
your slides so that you can answer that inevitable question, "What kind of
work do you do?"
Also hit Dorothy Weiss Gallery in SF and Fred Spratt Gallery in San Jose,
for starters.
E-mail me privately if you have any other questions.
Patrick
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John Jensen on mon 23 apr 01
It's a difficult thing to offer anyone advice on important life decisions.
I'm a "pay as you go" sort of fellow, but I'd still be inclined to suggest
going to grad school. In a lighthearted vein may I suggest that somewhere
in you future there is a fine Mercedes automobile: Either the one you
couldn't afford because you you spent all your money on school, or else the
one you easily bought because you invested in educating yourself. Either
way the education is worth more than the Mercedes. In my mind anyway.
John Jensen, mudbug pottery, Annapolis
Lily Krakowski on thu 7 aug 03
Ellie: Took so long because I was weighing my words, and checking my own
thinking.
Yes. Those seemed like discouraging words. I do not think the teacher
necessarily meant to discourage you at all, at all. He may have meant to
say what I would have said: Potting, potting, potting is the best way to
achieve skill—(and from recent posts get to making $500 pots!) The teacher
may have felt that you are so good that further schooling would not do as
much lasting good as potting, potting, potting…
Anyway: what does it matter that a teacher offers a different opinion?
Tactlessly put? Idiotically put? Maybe. Or just a disturbingly different
viewpoint? If you are convinced of your conviction, why give a mouse-fart
about what anyone else thinks?
53 nowadays is not “old”. But perception does not change reality! 53
means one no longer has the energy one had at 23; the body shows some wear
and tear. If Grad School involves everyone pitching in to build or fire a
big huge woodburning kiln over the weekend, the 23-year-olds will go
partying in the evenings, the 53-year-olds will head for bed and the
hot-moist pads.
Fifty-three also means, for many, women in particular, being called away
from what they want to do, to perform maternal/wifely duties. I do not know
how old Arti’s Gloria is—-do not know how old he is—-but right now she, and
several others we know on Clayart, are curtailing their chosen activities
because of a spouse who is not well, a daughter about to give birth (mazel
tov) a “challenged” grandchild who needs a caretaker while the parents
work.
Fifty-three also means that retirement is close for many. That the company
may “buy them out” or whatever it is called. That an older spouse or one
being “bought out” may want a redesigned life style that makes debt a
dubious idea.
For the lifelong artist, gradschool may mean a total disruption of a
long-standing refined way of thinking. I have known and know some bright,
bright young people in grad school. Some of their assignments seem, to me,
trivial, idiotic, a total waste of time. (As did the exhibits at the DIA
museum I visited recently. Gorgeous building, though.) The current trends
in art include such nifty concepts as “installation art” and something that
I know has a name, where you state your intention, and then do not “need” to
execute it. (Didn’t Valery invent that?) (Tried it with dinner once.
Strangely enough, we remained hungry) Are you willing to put your time and $
into this sort of thing? Are you interested in spending most of your day
with kids with kids's concerns?
America has always worshipped new ideas. Thank Heavens. But not all new
ideas are for everyone to follow. Apologies for citing myself, but as I
said in “Shrinkage” as one gets older one realizes there is a lot of stuff
on has been working on for decades that still needs perfecting. And the
perfecting is best done on one’s own. One does not need to reject new
ideas. One needs to see if they help oneself ON ONE’S OWN PATH.
If one wants grad school to learn something specific, other routes may be
more practical. Workshops for one. Workshops are costly, yes, but far
less so than grad school. One can attend those that teach exactly what one
wants to learn. One can fit them in with one’s other responsibilities.
One can fill the freezer and see to it that someone else checks in on, or
looks after Ailing Spouse for a week, ten days.
So. What appear to be discouraging words—go make pots—may be no more than
another viewpoint; a compliment, in fact, meant to say, as I will, as a
mature artists, with your experience walk your own path.
Bon voyage, and God bless.
Lili Krakowski
P.O. Box #1
Constableville, N.Y.
(315) 942-5916/ 397-2389
Be of good courage....
Ms Lotus on mon 11 dec 06
I am looking for a MFA program abroad. England, Spain, somewhere in Europe
andin an english speaking country or at least at a university that is taught
in english. I don't know where to start... and the Royal Academy in Londen
is way too expensive. Please advise
Jeoung-Ah Kim on tue 12 dec 06
You are welcome to contact our school in Sweden. Ceramic MFA programme.
www.hdk.gu.se
Best wishes,
Kim
Ms Lotus wrote:
I am looking for a MFA program abroad. England, Spain, somewhere in Europe
andin an english speaking country or at least at a university that is taught
in english. I don't know where to start... and the Royal Academy in Londen
is way too expensive. Please advise
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Lois Ruben Aronow on tue 12 dec 06
I was going to mention the Royal College of Art, as Felicity Aylieff, who
runs the program, is an amazing person and teacher. If I was moving back
there, that's where I would go. Harrow in London is also excellent. Last
I heard their program was more technical than design oriented. As a student
visa you would likely be entitled to the NHS, which is something to
consider.
Glasgow has an excellent ceramics program, but crappy weather. You could
call or email the British Crafts Council - that's what they're their for.
Australia has an extremely strong clay community, but I don't know any of
the schools well enough to recommend them.
The UK and Australia have the strongest "formal" programs. Another
alternative would be to go to China, but they don't speak English there. It
also depends on what it is you're looking to achieve in your education -
design, technical knowledge, critical thinking...each school offers
something different. When I lived in the UK, I took a night class once a
week for 1 1/2yrs and learned more than I ever did anywhere else. It was
probably just the right fit for me.
You should be aware that living abroad is going to be expensive no matter
what, as the dollar is almost worthless. I think it's nearly $1.98 to the
GBP right now.
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> I am looking for a MFA program abroad. England, Spain,
> somewhere in Europe andin an english speaking country or at
> least at a university that is taught in english. I don't know
> where to start... and the Royal Academy in Londen is way too
> expensive. Please advise
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May Luk on wed 13 dec 06
Hiya;
Glasgow School of Art has a beautiful building
designed by C.R. Macintosh. The facility is great and
the technician knowledgable. The school system is
Scottish, it's actually better than the English
system. I believe the fee is cheaper also. I was there
for a few semesters for BA ceramics. The city is small
but I love its grittiness. There is a very good music
scene if you like that sort of things. The weather is
not so bad, depends on where you are from. :-) Because
of its size, there are not a lot of museums like in
London, though.
Between Harrow and Camberwell in London, I would
choose Harrow, although they are both good. I've seen
the works and I visited the campuses. I felt there are
more technical support at Harrow. (I heard stories) I
am not so keen on Royal College of Art. There's a lot
of prestige coming out of RCA, but I wasn't impressed
with the quality of the students work these past few
years. Then again, it depends on what you are looking
for.
I wonder if University of Wales, Aberystwyth has an MA
programme in ceramics? I went to the international
ceramics festival there and I liked the campus.
I am not certain about the NHS. But you can work 20
hours legally if you have student visa. It's expensive
living in London, but all the museums are free. You
get a lot of discounts being a student too.
School term starts in September. If you are serious
about UK schools. It would pay to go there around May
or June when there are massive graduation shows where
you can go see the work, read some dreadful artist
statments, talk with the students and visit the campus
to see for yourself. You can also write to the head of
department and just communicate with them about their
programmes. Ceramic Review would have adverts from
schools listing the programmes they offer.
Regards
May
Kings County
tony clennell on sun 8 jun 08
sorry I've let y'all down in the blog dept but life has been rather
hectic here. I moved from the
Brew Palace into Trevor's home while he is teaching in New Mexico for
the next month only to find out I'm reallllllllllllly allergic to his
cats. So I moved back to the Brew Palace and go have dinner with the
boyzz and do my computer stuff to keep them happy.
I posted a couple today and will be sure to get some shots of Joe
Davis's show tomorrow night entitled "Touchy, Feeley" which is
guaranteed to be a killer show. Russel- you're going to want something
from this show.
Bev Dandelion Hair Walker I'm hand building to try to get ya back to
Italy with me.
Be well and good pots to y'all!
Tony
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Lee Love on fri 19 jun 09
Corey,
Have you considered studying in Japan? I know folks who
have done this between their BFA and MFA.
You'll be hard pressed to find both a traditional perspective
and one focused on Japanese pots at the University. I have
always looked for the teacher first, and then do what ever program
they teach.
--
Lee Love, Minneapolis
"The tea ceremony bowl is the ceramic equivalent of a sonnet: a
small-scale, seemingly constricted form that challenges the artist to
go beyond mere technical virtuosity and find an approach that both
satisfies and transcends the conventions." -- Rob Sliberman
full essay: http://togeika.multiply.com/journal/item/273/
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