Marty Bynum on tue 3 sep 96
Is anyone out there using lusters like the ones that Beatrice Wood uses? If
so, could I please pick your brains for recipes and hints for success?!?!
Also any of the metalic effects for Racu...THANKS in advance.....Marty
Marty McBride Bynum
Clemson University
mmbynum@clemson.edu
fozereko@art.umass.edu on fri 28 feb 97
Hello clayarters,
We haven't used lusters (lustres?) in over 20 years and are wondering where
people get them these days. Any information would be appreciated (place,
cost, color, etc.)
Thanks.
Francine T. Ozereko
Pelham, MA
Bruce Lenore on sat 1 mar 97
hi francine! good to see your name here. I started using lustres again
after 20 yrs of staying away..(except for raku lustres). I got mine
from a local ma and pa greenware studio but they are easy and
dependable,, Hanovia is the brand. The gold is expensive but goes a
long way and the others are fairly cheap. I am sure you can find them
through catalogues as well. write if you need more help..
stxnstnz@edgenet.net. Good to see you,.. Bruce Lenore
Robert Speirs, M.D. 766 X4450 on wed 5 mar 97
Hi. I have been using Hanovia lusters for a few years. I get them at
my local pottery supply. They are somewhat expensive, expecially the
bright liquid gold, but I get a lot of pots decorated out of a bottle.
I'm sure you remember you apply them to glazed ware that has been
cleaned with denatured alcohol, then fired to ^018. Be sure to apply
them in a WELL ventilated room (I open the front and back doors and run
a fan) or use a mask that will filter out the fumes.
Try the halo lusters. I really love their effects and they come in
several colors. Also, you should have a brush that you use only for the
lusters as it can be easily contaminated by using it for underglazes,
etc.
If I can tell you anything else, please write.
Laura in Oregon
Billie & Beverly Cohen on wed 5 mar 97
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello clayarters,
>
>We haven't used lusters (lustres?) in over 20 years and are wondering where
>people get them these days. Any information would be appreciated (place,
>cost, color, etc.)
>
>Thanks.
>
>Francine T. Ozereko
>Pelham, MA
>
Hi Francine,
I'm sure there are many places to get lusters, but I get mine from
Lou Davis Wholesale. They are Hanovia Lusters and very good quality.
Prices vary. Call them at (800) 748-7991 for a free catalog. Lou
Davis is in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, but I've had very good luck with
them ordering. I usually have my stuff within a week when I order by
phone.
Usual caveats apply. I don't work for them or anything. I'm just a
satisfied customer (as long as it's a "brand" name). :-)
Beverly
Larry Tague on thu 6 mar 97
I have found a new company in my area that sells lustres. The HedgeShopper.
They are in Sanford Florida and the phone number is 800-211-7713.
Larry
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From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List on behalf of Billie & Beverly Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 1997 8:48 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Subject: Re: lusters
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello clayarters,
>
>We haven't used lusters (lustres?) in over 20 years and are wondering where
>people get them these days. Any information would be appreciated (place,
>cost, color, etc.)
>
>Thanks.
>
>Francine T. Ozereko
>Pelham, MA
>
Hi Francine,
I'm sure there are many places to get lusters, but I get mine from
Lou Davis Wholesale. They are Hanovia Lusters and very good quality.
Prices vary. Call them at (800) 748-7991 for a free catalog. Lou
Davis is in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, but I've had very good luck with
them ordering. I usually have my stuff within a week when I order by
phone.
Usual caveats apply. I don't work for them or anything. I'm just a
satisfied customer (as long as it's a "brand" name). :-)
Beverly
furimsky on fri 25 sep 98
I recently used gold luster for the first time and have a few questions
relating to it. For the most part it was successful, but a few areas
were purplish. Does this mean it was too thin in that area or possibly
contaminated there? Also, when talking to people about luster they said
never to use more than one type of luster in a single firing. So I
could not use some silver and gold in the same firing, even if it goes
to the same temperature? Why is this? If anyone has any other helpful
hint please let me know.
Erin
Bryan Stecker on sun 27 sep 98
It's too thin where it's purple. If you want to remove the purple use a
little Bon Ami cleanser!
furimsky wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I recently used gold luster for the first time and have a few questions
> relating to it. For the most part it was successful, but a few areas
> were purplish. Does this mean it was too thin in that area or possibly
> contaminated there? Also, when talking to people about luster they said
> never to use more than one type of luster in a single firing. So I
> could not use some silver and gold in the same firing, even if it goes
> to the same temperature? Why is this? If anyone has any other helpful
> hint please let me know.
> Erin
dempot on fri 2 oct 98
Erin
I do a lot of lustre firing on my own pots and have come to the
following understanding:
1. If gold lustre is purplish in firing it means that it has been
applied to thinly-purple, reds and pinks are made from dilute
concentrations of gold lustre.
2. Contamination by dust, grease etc causes the lustre to be resisted
and therefore it does not take properly so the original glaze will show
through.
3. I use all types of lustre in the same firing and have never had any
problems so I feel that statement is wrong. This includes the metals
such as gold, copper etc as well as the normal transparent lustres and
Mother of Pearls etc. As well as this onglaze paints more commonly
known as china paints, together with enamels and texture bases can all
be fired in the same firing. I fire to Cone 017 as I work on porcelain
glazes. For earthenware and other softer glazes firing would be a cone
or two lower.
A good book on lustres is "Lustre for China Painters and Potters"
Heather Tailor, 1990, Kangaroo Press. ISBN 0 86417 294 X. If you
can't locate this I would be able to give you an address of one of the
wholesalers in Australia who stock this as well as others.
Regards
Johanna De Maine
Landsborough Qld 4550 Australia
dempot@squirrel.com.au
Maria Elaine Lanza on thu 13 may 99
Does anyone have experience with the shelf life of lusters? I have bottles
that date back to 1988... some have been used... others have remained
unopened... I suspect the opened used bottles should be tossed since the
material appears thick, dark and syrupy... whereas the unused ones are
clear and fluid... any comments, recommendations most appreciated.
Marie Elaine
LeRoy Price on thu 13 may 99
They are probably all useable. I recently used some lusters that I had
in a box since the mid 60's! They worked great. If some are too thick,
just thin them down with luster thinner.
LeRoy Price
On Thu, 13 May 1999, Maria Elaine Lanza wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Does anyone have experience with the shelf life of lusters? I have bottles
> that date back to 1988... some have been used... others have remained
> unopened... I suspect the opened used bottles should be tossed since the
> material appears thick, dark and syrupy... whereas the unused ones are
> clear and fluid... any comments, recommendations most appreciated.
>
> Marie Elaine
>
Cindy Dueringer on fri 14 may 99
In a message dated 5/13/99 11:19:58 AM Central Daylight Time,
melanza@n-jcenter.com writes:
<< ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Does anyone have experience with the shelf life of lusters? I have bottles
that date back to 1988... some have been used... others have remained
unopened... I suspect the opened used bottles should be tossed since the
material appears thick, dark and syrupy... whereas the unused ones are
clear and fluid... any comments, recommendations most appreciated.
Marie Elaine
>>
Don't know if lusters are the same as metallics...but I had a couple of
liquid gold bottles from 1973-75 (unopened, not sure about already opened
ones) and just used them last year and they were great. Actually, I think
they worked BETTER than the newer liquidy-watery ones I've gotten recently.
The oldies were thick when I opened and used them, I didn't thin them or
alter them in anyway, but I recall the gold being pretty thick orginally back
in 1973-75 compared to the stuff I've been getting lately. I've tried four
different brands lately, premium and "regular", and none seem to work well as
the oldies. The old gold was less "fussy" about firing too. One of the
companies I contacted via e-mail about the quality of the "new" gold and
having firing problems (rubbing off, ending up with a reddish copper color,
and some with "swirls" in it) I got back an evasive response blaming it on
me, contamination, the glaze, firing temps, and everything else. I didn't
have any problem with the "old" gold in THE SAME FIRING! (making cabinet
knobs and they were all the same) The old and new golds even smell different.
This is just my experience......hope it helps
KC Cindy
finally a quiet weather day on the prairie
David & Diane Chen on fri 14 may 99
Well, I've used lusters that are about 5 years old. The only ones that
really don't seem to hold up are the red and pink. They last a little
longer if you stick them in the refrigerator.
diane
massachusetts
Vivianne Escolar on fri 14 may 99
Marie Elaine, I also had some lusters dating from the 80's, a present
from someone I think, and I've just used the opened and unopened ones
and they worked! I was extremely surprised. Anyway, it's a box set with
12 colours and a glaze cleaner by a company MED-MAR METALS from Anaheim,
California. The "blue storm" and "burnt orange" are very nice. These are
stronger hued than the rest of the colours which are sort of shimmery
and pastel. I've resisted lusters for years, but have found them to have
a lot of potential. Shows how much taste can change. Fired to cone 018.
^ 019 was no good. And I used the glaze cleaner to dilute the thicker
ones. Hope this helps.Vivi
Marcia Selsor on wed 21 jul 99
A Mother of Pearl luster can be achieved by spraying a thin mist of
Stannous Chloride onto a white raku glaze as it is going from the kiln
to the reduction can.
Marcia in Montana
--
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selsor@imt.net
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/spain99.html
http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/selsor/welcome.html
Stephen Mills on fri 23 jul 99
In message , Marcia Selsor writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>A Mother of Pearl luster can be achieved by spraying a thin mist of
>Stannous Chloride onto a white raku glaze as it is going from the kiln
>to the reduction can.
>Marcia in Montana
And please wear a respirator while you are doing it!
Steve
Bath
UK
>--
>Marcia Selsor
>selsor@imt.net
>http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls
>http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/spain99.html
>http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/selsor/welcome.html
>
--
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Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
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Marcia Selsor on sun 25 jul 99
Absolutely as we mentioned before... a few months (or more) ago.
Stephen Mills wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> In message , Marcia Selsor writes
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >A Mother of Pearl luster can be achieved by spraying a thin mist of
> >Stannous Chloride onto a white raku glaze as it is going from the kiln
> >to the reduction can.
> >Marcia in Montana
>
> And please wear a respirator while you are doing it!
>
> Steve
> Bath
> UK
> >--
> >Marcia Selsor
> >selsor@imt.net
> >http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls
> >http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/spain99.html
> >http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/selsor/welcome.html
> >
>
> --
> Steve Mills
> Bath
> UK
> home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
> work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
> own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
> BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk
--
Marcia Selsor
selsor@imt.net
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/spain99.html
http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/selsor/welcome.html
SBRANFPOTS@aol.com on mon 10 jan 00
Folks,
We have the book "Lusters For China Painters And Potters" as a special for
$15 (list price $30). remember, our holiday sale is on until Jan 31!
Steven Branfman
The Potters Shop
HJNordskog@AOL.COM on fri 16 jun 00
Can anyone tell me a little about lusters?
How do you use it, firing, can it be used on tableware (foodsafety) ?
>From Ellen,
about to move back to Norway with my new wheel and kiln...
Lewis J Crittenden on tue 27 mar 01
On page 111 of The Ceramic Spectrum by Robin Hooper it says that they can
be thinned by turpentine or acetone.
Deborah Thuman on sat 13 oct 07
I've got gold luster, copper luster and bronze luster. They come in
little tiny bottles with teeny tiny print on them. If you're bifocal
age, rent a 12-year-old to read the bottle to you.
Make your ceramic goodie. Bisque fire. Glaze and fire.
Then... take it outside to paint on the luster. You do NOT want to do
this inside because the smell is enough to knock out a moose. Yes, I
did learn that the hard way. I learn a lot of things that way.
I fire the lusters at ^019. If you're using a luster on a ceramic item
to be used with food, the luster is food safe. But... you can't put it
in the microwave and you can't put it in the dishwasher.
Deb
http://debthumansblog.blogspot.com/
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