CHUN WEE SAN on mon 29 jul 96
Hello,
I'm a beginner in Ceramics, and recently I've been working on a
project on Majolica Ware. I would like to know more about Majolica and
would like to have some Majolica glaze recipes.
Can someone please help me? I look forward to talking to friends
in the discussion group.
Thank you.
Ron Collins on sat 4 aug 01
I have a quick question...I have never done any decorative painting in a =
serious way on clay, because I had myself convinced that my hand tremor =
would keep me from doing anything but mediocre work....after all these =
years, I'm giving it a serious try, and having fun, no problems, work =
looks great, unique and no wiggly lines....BUT...I have to brace myself =
and the pot all kinds of ways, in order to keep things smooth, a real =
contortion act...works fine with underglazes over slips...but I really =
think some of my glazes would be great for majolica. THE QUESTION =
(finally).....is there any readily available material from gro.store or =
farmacia that I could protect the glazed surface so that I can hold the =
piece and move it around in my lap a lot? QUESTION 2: if so, will =
applying underglazes or oxide mixes over this material keep the oxide =
from adhering to the glazes, and as the material burns away in the kiln, =
will I lose some /all of my colorants and patterning....?? I do not have =
any fixatives, just a little dried gum arabic...you would think after =
all these years, I would have tried this before now..it's funny how we =
set up our own limits ..............Melinda Collins
Marcia Selsor on sun 5 aug 01
Dear Me;inda,
You can use either hairspray or starch diluted and sprayed onto the
surface. I prefer the diluted starch. Try a cup of starch for a full
large spray bottle of water. Spray onto the glazed surface and then
paint your over glazes and oxides. In Spain, the decorators used a
ceramic easel. I saw one at NCECA once and got it immediately. It was
made by Scott Creek but it isn't made any more. It is a simple design of
two discs with a foam pad on each to protect the pot. The "easel part
slides to fit the size of the pot. The pot can be turned without being
handled. It can be tilted at andles for painting.
Marcia in Montana
Ron Collins wrote:
>
> I have a quick question...I have never done any decorative painting in a serious way on clay, because I had myself convinced that my hand tremor would keep me from doing anything but mediocre work....after all these years, I'm giving it a serious try, and having fun, no problems, work looks great, unique and no wiggly lines....BUT...I have to brace myself and the pot all kinds of ways, in order to keep things smooth, a real contortion act...works fine with underglazes over slips...but I really think some of my glazes would be great for majolica. THE QUESTION (finally).....is there any readily available material from gro.store or farmacia that I could protect the glazed surface so that I can hold the piece and move it around in my lap a lot? QUESTION 2: if so, will applying underglazes or oxide mixes over this material keep the oxide from adhering to the glazes, and as the material burns away in the kiln, will I lose some /all of my colorants and patterning....?? I do not!
have
> any fixatives, just a little dried gum arabic...you would think after all these years, I would have tried this before now..it's funny how we set up our own limits ..............Melinda Collins
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Michael Leblanc on sun 5 aug 01
i've used liqiud laundry starch mixed with water to give the glaze a harder
coating. i don't have mix ratio (i use a couple of splashes to a spray
bottle full of water) , just use sparay bottle to lightly coat the glaze
surface, when dry it forms a nice surface, not as chalky or easily chipped
off. hope this helps....mike
Paul Brinkmann on sun 5 aug 01
Milanda: Had the same problem when first starting majolica. The underglaze
was so powdery that it was next to impossable to paint on a design. Heard
about gum arabic, but never found where to buy any. Then while attending a
workshop at Texas A&M in Corpus Christi, Rosalie Wynkoop, in Helena, Montana,
told us about CMC, (Carboxy methel cellulose) a binder , synthetic gum,
similar to gum arabic, or gum tragacenth. Mix 1 oz + l cup hot water in qt
jar, stir and let sit for 1 hour. add another cup hot water, let stand over
night. Fill jar with water . Ready to use. May thin even more. Another
receipt: Mix 1/4 to 1/2 cup CMC in a gallon of water. Let sit over night
and use for mixing you base glaze. You can also use it in a spray bottle ,
to set the glaze, then do your design painting. Good luck, Paul Brinkmann.
Bill Weaver on mon 6 aug 01
Melinda,
I have ben doing majolica for years and do not use anything over my =
glaze while appllying my colors. I frequently hold my pieces in one =
hand while decorating with the other. I use a banding wheel and have a =
scrap piece of 4"x4" in front of it to prop my wrist up when I need =
support. owever, revcently I only use large caligraphry brushes which =
produce very flowing strokes and eliminate the worries of wavy lines =
since they are inherent in the brush strokes. Sometimes It depends on =
the glaze you use and its "stickability " to the biqued pot as to =
whether you can get away with handling the glazed piece.=20
If you have any ohter questions I would be happy to try to answer them =
of list.
Bill Weaver
bweaver1@qwest.net
http://www.palemoonstudio.com
Michael Sowers on mon 6 aug 01
One solution I have used for making a smooth non-absorbent surface to paint
on raw glaze is to mix Karo syrup (corn syrup) half and half with water and
spray on the raw glaze with a spray bottle. Let dry and paint on the candy
coating. Otherwise it is like drawing on toilet paper with a magic marker.
Mike
Classic Lines Pottery
Michael Sowers
Tel: 208-331-0803
Fax: 208-331-0487
Email: mike@classiclinespottery.com
Web: www.classiclinespottery.com/
Gordon on wed 8 aug 01
here is question for low fire potters.....
a neighbor bought a set of dishes from italy.. they are low
fire(1795 ..about 06).. when he puts them in the dishwasher the unglazed
ring on the bottom holds moisture... since he has me for a neighbor he
asked me what to do.. he wants to seal the ring with acrylic... i want to
seal it with a glaze..(but what glaze?_ will the italians tell me what the
glaze was that they used?)..and stilt the pieces...
he is worried that a second firing will change the color of the
watercolor used to paint the design... he was told not to put them in the
microwave as it might change the color........huh?????
anybody have any other ideas... this list always has good ideas!!!!!
thanks goodness it has helped me out of many a jam.... thanks thanks thanks
Kathleen Gordon
Palo Alto, Ca 94301
650-328-9164
fax 650-328-9113
email:kjgordon1@homail.com
"if things seem under control then you are not going fast enough!"
Mario Andretti
Terrance Lazaroff on thu 9 aug 01
Gordon;
I wouldn't refire them. I would advise not to put them in the dishwasher.
If they are absorbing water, I would not put them in the microwave. I would
also advise to have them tested for lead.
Terrance
Marcia Selsor on thu 9 aug 01
Most Italian dishes that someone would buy are probably majolica and
quite an investment.
They are earthenware and therefore absorb moisture. If you put one in
the dishwasher after it has absobed moisture it could blow up. I can't
say about changing color. I would doubt it but I won't swear because I
don't know.
Do not put a glaze on the bottom. That could change the color. Maybe try
hand washing.
They are precious. I hand wash my mothers Syracuse china wedding set of
dishes because they are precious. I have some Spanish majolica which I
have used for 15 years. It does tend to shiver if used a lot and washed
and microwaved. I quit doing that to the majolica. Treat it well. It
predates the abusive dishwasher and microwave techniques.
Marcia in Montana
Gordon wrote:
>
> here is question for low fire potters.....
> a neighbor bought a set of dishes from italy.. they are low
> fire(1795 ..about 06).. when he puts them in the dishwasher the unglazed
> ring on the bottom holds moisture... since he has me for a neighbor he
> asked me what to do.. he wants to seal the ring with acrylic... i want to
> seal it with a glaze..(but what glaze?_ will the italians tell me what the
> glaze was that they used?)..and stilt the pieces...
> he is worried that a second firing will change the color of the
> watercolor used to paint the design... he was told not to put them in the
> microwave as it might change the color........huh?????
>
> anybody have any other ideas... this list always has good ideas!!!!!
> thanks goodness it has helped me out of many a jam.... thanks thanks thanks
>
> Kathleen Gordon
> Palo Alto, Ca 94301
> 650-328-9164
> fax 650-328-9113
> email:kjgordon1@homail.com
>
> "if things seem under control then you are not going fast enough!"
> Mario Andretti
>
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http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/May2001.html
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/Tuscany2001.html
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David Hendley on thu 9 aug 01
Kathleen, You would be crazy to try to glaze the footrings
and fire the whole set of dishes. Anything could happen;
the original glaze could run or blister, the colors might change,
the whole piece could come out badly crazed.
Wait a minute, we already know you are crazy (good
crazy, this would be bad crazy). Don't do it. Tell your
neighbor to wash his dishes by hand.
Also, if they are absorbing water, they should not be
put in the microwave, as the absorbed water can vaporize
and literally explode the piece.
Just my opinion; I wouldn't try this with my own dishes,
much less someone else's.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:52 PM
Subject: majolica question
> here is question for low fire potters.....
> a neighbor bought a set of dishes from italy.. they are low
> fire(1795 ..about 06).. when he puts them in the dishwasher the unglazed
> ring on the bottom holds moisture... since he has me for a neighbor he
> asked me what to do.. he wants to seal the ring with acrylic... i want to
> seal it with a glaze..(but what glaze?_ will the italians tell me what the
> glaze was that they used?)..and stilt the pieces...
> he is worried that a second firing will change the color of the
> watercolor used to paint the design... he was told not to put them in the
> microwave as it might change the color........huh?????
>
> anybody have any other ideas... this list always has good ideas!!!!!
> thanks goodness it has helped me out of many a jam.... thanks thanks
thanks
>
>
> Kathleen Gordon
> Palo Alto, Ca 94301
Steve Mills on fri 10 aug 01
The simplest answer is seal with acrylic as that doesn't subject the
piece to Kiln heat. If microwave is going to screw up the design, that
indicates there is likely to be some metallic Lustre element to the
colours, which in turn suggests (to me) a very low firing for the
design, like glass enamel temperature which is lower than ceramic
enamel, so glazing will likely burn out the colours a lot, if not
completely.
I would also suggest your neighbour doesn't use the dishes for acidic
foodstuffs!
Steve
Bath
UK
In message , Gordon writes
> here is question for low fire potters.....
> a neighbor bought a set of dishes from italy.. they are low
>fire(1795 ..about 06).. when he puts them in the dishwasher the unglazed
>ring on the bottom holds moisture... since he has me for a neighbor he
>asked me what to do.. he wants to seal the ring with acrylic... i want to
>seal it with a glaze..(but what glaze?_ will the italians tell me what the
>glaze was that they used?)..and stilt the pieces...
> he is worried that a second firing will change the color of the
>watercolor used to paint the design... he was told not to put them in the
>microwave as it might change the color........huh?????
>
>anybody have any other ideas... this list always has good ideas!!!!!
>thanks goodness it has helped me out of many a jam.... thanks thanks thanks
>
>
>Kathleen Gordon
>Palo Alto, Ca 94301
>650-328-9164
>fax 650-328-9113
>email:kjgordon1@homail.com
>
>"if things seem under control then you are not going fast enough!"
>Mario Andretti
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
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