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Tracy Wilson on wed 26 feb 97

Howdy all...
Would the woman that contacted me about a month ago please contact me
again? It was in regards to a price sheet for medex bats. I'm planning on
making the winter batch in the next couple of weeks and I've lost your
address. Spacey Tracy in action again ;-D
Sorry... Tracy
PS This isn't for you guys around Tacoma Park, MD I've got your vital
stats.

_______________________________________
Tracy Wilson
Saltbox Pottery
RR3 Box 749, Rte. 1
Woolwich, Maine 04579
phone:207-443-5586
fax:207-443-6544-0
email: saltbox@ime.net
Web: http://www.ime.net/~dwilson/
______________________________________

Rusty Sieck on thu 2 oct 97

Hey Vince:

I think I know what your talking about - I've always heard the material
referred to as medex and it is my understanding that it is the material
used to make highway signs - very dense particle board which is totally
impervious to water and will not warp. I have a number of bats made from
this material which I obtained through Continental Clay Co. in Minneapolis
- I think that North Star is also selling them...send me a note if you need
a phone #. I agree that they are the best thing going for bats.

Best Wishes,

Rusty Sieck
Chicken Bridge Pottery
Pittsboro, NC
rsieck@sprynet.com

>
> These were the best bats I have ever used. I do not like plastic bats,
> because they are too slick, and I do not like plaster bats for anything,
> because they suck too much moisture out of the bottom of the pot, unless
you
> wet them thoroughly, and why should you have to do that??? Sorry to
sound
> like a grump here, but those RED-X bats were so completely perfect, that
> nothing since measures up.
> - Vince

stevemills on sat 4 oct 97

Rusty,
Your on the nail with that one, I make the batts we sell out of Medex,
it's a weatherproof MDF board and it 's great....doesn't warp....
doesn't swell ...etc. I get from by local builders merchants.
Steve

wearing a T shirt in October!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In message , Rusty Sieck writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hey Vince:
>
>I think I know what your talking about - I've always heard the material
>referred to as medex and it is my understanding that it is the material
>used to make highway signs - very dense particle board which is totally
>impervious to water and will not warp. I have a number of bats made from
>this material which I obtained through Continental Clay Co. in Minneapolis
>- I think that North Star is also selling them...send me a note if you need
>a phone #. I agree that they are the best thing going for bats.
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>Rusty Sieck
>Chicken Bridge Pottery
>Pittsboro, NC
>rsieck@sprynet.com
>
>>
>> These were the best bats I have ever used. I do not like plastic bats,
>> because they are too slick, and I do not like plaster bats for anything,
>> because they suck too much moisture out of the bottom of the pot, unless
>you
>> wet them thoroughly, and why should you have to do that??? Sorry to
>sound
>> like a grump here, but those RED-X bats were so completely perfect, that
>> nothing since measures up.
>> - Vince
>

--
Steve Mills
@Bath Potters Supplies
Dorset Close
Bath
BA2 3RF
UK
Tel:(44) (0)1225 337046
Fax:(44) (0)1225 462712

Tracy Wilson on wed 31 dec 97

Thanks Sandy...
for passing on the word about the Medex bats. I'll be doing an order in
January now that pottery sales have slowed for a couple of months. If
anyone is interested please email me and I'll send you the prices and other
info.

------------------------------------
Tracy Wilson
Saltbox Pottery
4 Shaw Rd.
Woolwich, ME 04579
phone: 207-443-5586
fax: 207-442-8922
email: saltbox@ime.net
web: http://www.ime.net/~dwilson/
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LChisH99 on thu 1 jan 98

Two questions:
What are medex bats?
&
What does TIA mean?

Lesley / Va Beach

Tracy Wilson on mon 8 feb 99

Last call for Medex bats for 1999... Let me know!
____________________________________
Tracy Wilson
Saltbox Pottery
4 Shaw Rd.
Woolwich, ME 04579
phone: 207-443-5586
fax: 207-442-8922
email: tracy@saltboxpottery.com
web: www.saltboxpottery.com
___________________________________

Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on mon 8 feb 99

Tracy---I have a very large order from my group at the studio. I have a list
that I will post to you tomorrow morning. I think I left the entire list in my
tool box at home. It will come to a few hundred bucks or more.
All the orders are for 1/2". Most are for 12" and 14". I definitely want one
of your bat systems for $14.95 and ten 8" bats.
I am going to have the whole thing shipped to our community studio. That makes
it easier for you and me. Should I add about 10% for shipping?

Thanks,
Sandy

-----Original Message-----
From: Tracy Wilson [SMTP:saltbox@ime.net]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 1:35 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Medex Bats

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Last call for Medex bats for 1999... Let me know!
____________________________________
Tracy Wilson
Saltbox Pottery
4 Shaw Rd.
Woolwich, ME 04579
phone: 207-443-5586
fax: 207-442-8922
email: tracy@saltboxpottery.com
web: www.saltboxpottery.com
___________________________________

Mason Batchelder on mon 8 feb 99

What are Medex bats?Xcuse my ignorance.Why would I prefer them and what would
they cost.I cannot access the web address given.

lpskeen on wed 10 feb 99

Tracy Wilson wrote:
> Last call for Medex bats for 1999... Let me know!


Tracy,
What is a Medex bat? Is this a co-op buy that I missed hearing about?
--
Lisa Skeen ICQ# 15554910
Living Tree Pottery & Soaps http://www.uncg.edu/~lpskeen
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! It comes bundled with the software.
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Stephen Mills on wed 10 feb 99

Medex is an exterior grade water resistant MDF/Particle board. It is
brilliant for ceramics as it is warp free, won't splinter like wood, or
leave nice little chips of plaster in your clay!!
All the batts we sell at Bath Potters Supplies are made of Medex.

Steve
Blowing his own trumpet in
Bath
UK


In message , Mason Batchelder writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>What are Medex bats?Xcuse my ignorance.Why would I prefer them and what would
>they cost.I cannot access the web address given.
>

--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk

Morgan Britt on thu 11 feb 99

I seemed to have missed the call for Medex bats from Tracy Wilson.
Tracy, I'm interested. Can you tell me how to contact you?

Thanks
--
Morgan Britt
morgan@unlimited.net

lpskeen on thu 11 feb 99

Stephen Mills wrote:
> Medex is an exterior grade water resistant MDF/Particle board.

Eeeeeewwwwwwwwwww! Sounds like something that would come apart and I'd
find chunks in my clay. My experience with "water resistant" has been
that whatever has that label usually isn't for long............
--
Lisa Skeen ICQ# 15554910
Living Tree Pottery & Soaps http://www.uncg.edu/~lpskeen
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! It comes bundled with the software.
The Bill of Rights - (void where prohibited by law)

Stephen Mills on fri 12 feb 99

Lisa,
It doesn't and they don't non waterproof MDF swells up like a sponge.
This stuff stays stable and very well behaved.

Steve
Bath
UK


In message , lpskeen writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Stephen Mills wrote:
>> Medex is an exterior grade water resistant MDF/Particle board.
>
>Eeeeeewwwwwwwwwww! Sounds like something that would come apart and I'd
>find chunks in my clay. My experience with "water resistant" has been
>that whatever has that label usually isn't for long............
>--
>Lisa Skeen ICQ# 15554910
>Living Tree Pottery & Soaps http://www.uncg.edu/~lpskeen
>FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! It comes bundled with the software.
>The Bill of Rights - (void where prohibited by law)
>

--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
home e-mail: stevemills@mudslinger.demon.co.uk
work e-mail: stevemills@bathpotters.demon.co.uk
own website: http://www.mudslinger.demon.co.uk
BPS website: http://www.bathpotters.demon.co.uk

Tim Lynch on sat 13 feb 99

I have both medex and bats made out of MDO board that have lasted for two
years now. You can get 4' x 8' sheets of both at any lumber supply
store. Then you get to have the absolute joy of trying to cut them out
yourself. Or you can find someone with a band saw and have them cut them
for you. Try it, you'll like it.

tim

Tim Lynch
The Clay Man
1117 Tedford St SE
East Wenatchee, WA 98802-5254
509-884-8303
clayman@internet.wsd.wednet.edu
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/1613

Tracy Wilson on sat 27 feb 99

Medex absorbs 12% moisture over a 24 hour period of time. Unlike
plastibats, the bottom stiffens slightly over time but not so much as to pop
the piece off like plaster bats.
When I use Medex bats (which, of course, is all the time) I cut the
finished piece off with a piece of fishing line, then remove the bat from
the wheelhead, set it on the shelf and reach for another bat. I leave it
on until the next day when I can lift the piece off the bat. The bottom has
stiffened up enough to remove it easily.

I usually throw my big platters and large bowls on round pieces of light
canvas that I've stuck to the bat with a bit of slip. By the next morning
the extra moisture has been absorbed and the bottom of the piece has
stiffened enough to flip it onto another bat. I can lift the old bat off
leaving the piece and canvas upside down ready for trimming. Peel off the
canvas and Voila! ready to trim. This saves my hands from holding a taut
wire in the cutting off process because... I don't cut it off!

Medex is great and the canvas trick is one of my favorites!

Good Luck,
Tracy
____________________________________
Tracy Wilson
Saltbox Pottery
4 Shaw Rd.
Woolwich, ME 04579
Maine phone: 1-207-443-5586
Out of state: 1-800-755-POTS (7687)
fax:1-207-442-8922
email: tracy@saltboxpottery.com
web: www.saltboxpottery.com
___________________________________

lpskeen on sun 28 feb 99

Tracy Wilson wrote:
I can lift the old bat off leaving the piece and canvas upside down
ready for trimming. Peel off e canvas and Voila! ready to trim. This
saves my hands from holding a taut wire in the cutting off process
because... I don't cut it off!


Tracy, I may be one of your biggest fans now. I love to throw big
platters, but I cannot even TELL you how many I've ruined with the
garbledyfarkin' cutoff wire. Gotta try this approach asap!
--
Lisa Skeen ICQ# 15554910
Living Tree Pottery & Soaps http://www.uncg.edu/~lpskeen
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! It comes bundled with the software.
The Bill of Rights - (void where prohibited by law)

Suzanne Wolfe on mon 6 jun 05


Dear Clayarters,
We are considering the purchase of some Medex bats for use in a college
classroom situation. I wonder if any of you have experience with these
bats in that kind of environment, and what is your opinion on their
durability, etc.
Thanks,
Suzanne Wolfe
University of Hawai'i

linda on mon 6 jun 05


Hey Suzanne - I think they are great! We use them in our classes, and they
are better that regular masonite. Be sure to NOT wash them in the sink and
they will last longer. I have my students just scrape the clay off with a plastic
body putty knife or use a damp sponge to clean the bat, then store them
vertically or hang them by the pin hole. If they (or masonite too) are stored
flat, they will tend to warp.

Linda
in Denver Colorado

-----Original Message-----
From: Suzanne Wolfe
Sent: Jun 6, 2005 1:05 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Medex Bats

Dear Clayarters,
We are considering the purchase of some Medex bats for use in a college
classroom situation. I wonder if any of you have experience with these
bats in that kind of environment, and what is your opinion on their
durability, etc.
Thanks,
Suzanne Wolfe
University of Hawai'i

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Vince Pitelka on mon 6 jun 05


Suzanne -
At the Craft Cetner about six years ago we bought ten sheets of Medex and
made a big supply of bats of various sizes. Medex is waterproof MDF board,
and it is waterproof throughout. Medex bats require no sealant, and as they
wear, the surface is still waterproof. Today, those bats are in just as
good a shape as when we bought them. There has been absolutely no
deterioration at all, and this is in heavy use in our academic classes
during the school year and our workshops during the summer. As far as I am
concerned, Medex bats are the best available for so many reasons.
Good luck -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/

Taylor from Rockport on tue 7 jun 05


Vince and others on the Medex kick:

What is the ballpark price for one sheet of Medex? I'm assuming it is 4 by
5 feet sheets. Who is using the bats without pins and how do they do
regarding attachment? I'm guessing that these bats are similar to other
nonporous bats in that they do not quicken drying of the bottom of the
pots. Oui?

Thanks for being such smarty pants.

Taylor in Rockport TX

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:57:10 -0500, Vince Pitelka
wrote:

>Suzanne -
>At the Craft Cetner about six years ago we bought ten sheets of Medex and
>made a big supply of bats of various sizes. Medex is waterproof MDF board,
>and it is waterproof throughout....

Louis Katz on tue 7 jun 05


I have been liking my Creative Industry bats. They have some tendency
to warp but I have been using some at school for ten years.
Fired a bonfire today only lost 10% to explosions. One damaged but
servicable, two complete failures, other pots fired nice. Dry Cow pies.
Louis
On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Suzanne Wolfe wrote:

> Dear Clayarters,
> We are considering the purchase of some Medex bats for use in a college
> classroom situation. I wonder if any of you have experience with these
> bats in that kind of environment, and what is your opinion on their
> durability, etc.
> Thanks,
> Suzanne Wolfe
> University of Hawai'i
>
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Hank Murrow on tue 7 jun 05


On Jun 7, 2005, at 8:10 AM, Taylor from Rockport wrote:

> Vince and others on the Medex kick:
>
> What is the ballpark price for one sheet of Medex? I'm assuming it is
> 4 by
> 5 feet sheets.

Dear Taylor;

The standard size of a Medex sheet is 49 x 97....... I guess the extra
inches are to allow for the kerfs.

> Who is using the bats without pins and how do they do
> regarding attachment? I'm guessing that these bats are similar to
> other
> nonporous bats in that they do not quicken drying of the bottom of the
> pots. Oui?

I use the bats without pins. Not significantly, and I just tap them
into center on a 1" thick pad of clay on the wheelhead(lasts for months
with care), and then seat the bat with the heel of my hand.

Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank

Vince Pitelka on tue 7 jun 05


Taylor -
1/2" Medex comes in 4x8 sheets. I do not remember the price, but I expect a
web search would yield that information. It is a very fine-grain
no-added-formaldehyde medium-density fiberboard (MDF) made with waterproof
binders, and is manufactured by SierraPine Ltd.

If you are not using bat pins, you would attach them the same as any other
non-porous bat without bat pins - using a clay "cookie" or a clay ring. And
since they are non-porous and waterproof, they do not release the clay very
well at all - you really need to use a cutoff wire.

For anyone wanting to make their own Medex or plywood bats with drilled pin
holes, there is a complete description of how to do so in my book.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/

Pfeiffer, Dan R (Dan) on tue 7 jun 05


One other way that we use is to "cast" a medex bat into the top of a pure
and simple bat mold. I put in a bit of clay to hold the bat in the center of
what will become the top and poured plaster over it and now a have a 14"
plaster bat that holes 6" medex bats. So far it has been cheaper to just buy
the bats than take time to cut up a board. We found that the centering of
the bat is not as good as the factory version but not so bad as to be
noticed while throwing and the hydro-cal plaster we used makes for a better
holder than the wood fiber version we bought.

Dan & Laurel in Elkmont Al
Potters Council Members