Wendy Hampton on tue 1 oct 96
Does anyone have recipes for ^5 or ^6 metallic glazes. Especially looking
for a good copper.
Thanks in advance.
Wendy from Bainbridge Island WA
sdt on wed 2 oct 96
Hi Wendy,
I'm Steve. I have a good raku metallic glaze called "Carl's Copper Sand"
It is a Matt looking finish but if added under "Rainbow" raku glaze it comes
out very multi colored. Also I have a "Red Green" Raku glaze that when
pulled fast, (very fast), it will be a very golden color. When pulled slow,
either red or green with some coppery gold appears.
Let me know if interested.
Steve
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Does anyone have recipes for ^5 or ^6 metallic glazes. Especially looking
>for a good copper.
>Thanks in advance.
>Wendy from Bainbridge Island WA
>
>
lrh on wed 2 oct 96
Steve... If you don't mind, please share these interisting raku
glazes with me as well... I'll give my students a chance to
experiment with them. They're always asking for something
different...Thanks
Loran Hill
Indianapolis Art Center
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Subject: Re: Metallic glazes
Author: Ceramic Arts Discussion List at ccmgate
Date: 10/2/96 12:05 PM
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi Wendy,
I'm Steve. I have a good raku metallic glaze called "Carl's Copper Sand"
It is a Matt looking finish but if added under "Rainbow" raku glaze it comes
out very multi colored. Also I have a "Red Green" Raku glaze that when
pulled fast, (very fast), it will be a very golden color. When pulled slow,
either red or green with some coppery gold appears.
Let me know if interested.
Steve
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Does anyone have recipes for ^5 or ^6 metallic glazes. Especially looking
>for a good copper.
>Thanks in advance.
>Wendy from Bainbridge Island WA
>
>
Lori Leary on thu 3 oct 96
Steve,
Couldja post those delicious sounding raku glazes of yours? I know that
others would be interested also.
Thanks,
Lori
rainy and cool here .....
Pawleys Island SC USA
BWINER@UKCC.uky.edu on thu 3 oct 96
I would love the recipe for your metalic glaze. What do you mean if you pull it
fast or slow? Thanks, Billy in rainy Lexington, KY
Frank Gaydos on mon 22 sep 08
What cone?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lois Ruben Aronow"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: [CLAYART] Metallic glazes
> I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean lusters;
> I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from the get-go.
>
> I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible to even make a silver,
> gold, or copper, and have no idea where to start.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad to share my results
> and post pics.
>
> thanks.....lo
>
> **********
> Lois Aronow Porcelain
>
> Brooklyn, NY
>
>
> www.loisaronow.com
>
Paul Lewing on mon 22 sep 08
On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean
lusters;
I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from the get-go.
Maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but china painters
sometimes use an overglaze palette that looks like metal flake.
They're called metallic or interference colors. They have mica in
them so they kind of glitter. You fire them onto an already glazed
and fired work and fired to about cone 018-016. You can get them
from Kathy Peterson's The Good Stuff at www.thegoodstuff.com.
Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com
Lois Ruben Aronow on mon 22 sep 08
I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean lusters;
I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from the get-go.
I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible to even make a silver,
gold, or copper, and have no idea where to start.
Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad to share my results
and post pics.
thanks.....lo
**********
Lois Aronow Porcelain
Brooklyn, NY
www.loisaronow.com
Caleb smith on tue 23 sep 08
Jon=2C=20
I have seen several variations of Copper/manganese glazes with other ingred=
ients and I should experiment with them as well as with my own. But mine i=
s so simple to mix and it's been working for me. It is indeed ONLY Copper=
=2C Manganese and Iron. A little salt helps with suspension=2C but it stil=
l settles. From memory I can think of a recipe that includes whiting and o=
ne that has some silica=2C but I'm afraid the specific measurements are los=
t in the morass of my notes. I know nothing about their quality anyway.
To be fair=2C my pots tend on the crusty side these days and I sometimes em=
brace pits=2C bubbles and ruckling (sp?) as interesting features. I fire i=
n a small trainish wood/soda kiln and my glazes pick up lots of ash and sod=
ium during the firing. In a gas firing my glazes don't always work out. B=
ut if you do some research and field the community=2C you're bound to find =
bronze to gold copper/manganese glazes that are formulated for gas firing. =
=20
In the interest of hooking another poor soul into the world of crackpot gla=
zing and endless test firings I went out into the studio and dusted off not=
ebooks until I found a recipe. I'm afraid I can't vouch for its effectiven=
ess. I think it comes from the archives of the USU Hyperglaze program.
Manganese Slip (Gold/Black) apply to bisqueware:
Manganese Dioxide 40
Copper Carbonate 30
EPK 20
Ball Clay 10=20
Perhaps adding feldspar or flux to this would make it more glossy?
I use two variations myself:
Dark Evil (Black/gold/red) Matte finish=2C very runny:
Copper carbonate 60
Manganese dioxide 40
Blood of the Innocent (Black/gold/red/purple) Matte to glossy=2C can redu=
ction cool=2C very runny:
Copper carbonate 30
Manganese Dioxide 30
Red Iron oxide 30
Salt 5 to 7
There are many other variations. It's a long topic.
Best=2C
Caleb
> Date: Tue=2C 23 Sep 2008 13:20:13 -0500
> From: jebyler2@GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: Metallic glazes
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>=20
> caleb=2C
>=20
> would you be willing to share a bit more? I am guessing the equal
> parts RIO=2C copper carb=2C and Manganese Dioxide are not the only
> consituents in the glaze. are they equal parts @ 1 percent or so
> each in some base glaze? I would love to see a recipe.
>=20
> thanks=2C
> jon
>=20
>=20
> jon byler
> 3-D Building Coordinator
> Art Department
> Auburn University=2C AL 36849
>=20
> On Sep 23=2C 2008=2C at 12:07 PM=2C Caleb smith wrote:
>=20
> > Lois=2C
> > The bronze to gold effects of copper and manganese glazes are
> > fairly well known. I use a glaze of equal parts RIO=2C copper
> > carbonate and manganese dioxide that produces nice reds in
> > reduction cooling and nice golds and bronzes in soda or wood.
> >
> > I've also seen some Zinc glazes that are quite silver and
> > metallic. Unfortunately my own attempts to replicate such a glaze
> > have not been successful. No successful recipes for that one yet.
> >
> > I'm speaking of cone 10 glazes so far=2C but creating a metal coating
> > on ceramic is probably feasible too. Lower temperature clays might
> > work better because of their greater porosity. I think a coating
> > of aluminum would be especially nice=2C imagine the anodization
> > possibilities.
> >
> > Best of luck=2C
> >
> > Caleb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon=2C 22 Sep 2008 19:27:52 -0400> From: misslo@NYC.RR.COM>
> >> Subject: Metallic glazes> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > I'm
> >> trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean
> >> lusters=3B> I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from
> >> the get-go.> > I have a bronze=2C but have no idea if it's possible
> >> to even make a silver=2C> gold=2C or copper=2C and have no idea where =
to
> >> start.> > Any suggestions would be appreciated=2C and I'll be glad
> >> to share my results> and post pics.> > thanks.....lo> >
> >> **********> Lois Aronow Porcelain> > Brooklyn=2C NY> > >
> >> www.loisaronow.com > > >> www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com/>
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Alisa Clausen on tue 23 sep 08
Hi Lois,
I forget how you fire, although I know you fire porcelain.
In my experience, without using lusters, I have gotten some
metallic results with a heavy oversaturation of iron for bronze and
copper for irridescent surfaces. The copper will usually run.
Have not seen anything silver I can think of.
Best regards, Alisa in Denmark
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean lusters;
> I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from the get-go.
>
> I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible to even make a silver,
> gold, or copper, and have no idea where to start.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad to share my results
> and post pics.
>
> thanks.....lo
>
> **********
> Lois Aronow Porcelain
>
> Brooklyn, NY
>
>
> www.loisaronow.com
>
>
Angela Davis on tue 23 sep 08
Hi Lois,
I needed a metallic like glaze for a theme challenge jug last month so tried
layering all my cone 6 glazes that had a lot of oxide.
I got great results with Baileys Iron over T-13 green.
I fire to cone 5 with a 5 min hold and let my added insulation electric kiln
cool on it's own.
I have posted photos on my Flickr site for you, note that it wants to run.
I haven't experimented with it after finishing my entry but you may be able
to add a little EPK to slow it down. Apply the T-13 thin.
The really silver photos are taken inside my photo cube, you can see how it
reflects
like a mirror. The darker photo is out side the cube in natural light,
looks more like highly
polished pewter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7457150@N05/2882278180/in/photostream/
Here are the recipes I used , of course this combination would be for non
functional ceramics.
I would be interested in the results of your metallic glaze search, and your
test of my combination.
Angela Davis
In Homosassa
Recipe Name: T13 Green
Cone: 6 Color: metalic green
Firing: Oxidation Surface: Glossy
Amount Ingredient
2150 Feldspar--Kona F4
250 Grolleg
1075 Silica
1125 Whiting
300 Zinc Oxide
100 Bentonite
5000 Total
Additives
400 Copper Carbonate
Recipe Name: Iron red from Baileys
Cone: 6-9 Color:
Firing: Ox. or Red. Surface: Semiglossy
Amount Ingredient
50.7 Feldspar--Potash
4 Kaolin--EPK
15 Bone Ash
16.9 Talc
11.4 Silica
2 Bentonite
100 Total
Additives
15 Iron Oxide--Red
4 Lithium Carbonate
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lois Ruben Aronow"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Metallic glazes
> I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean lusters;
> I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from the get-go.
>
> I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible to even make a silver,
> gold, or copper, and have no idea where to start.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad to share my results
> and post pics.
>
> thanks.....lo
>
> **********
> Lois Aronow Porcelain
>
> Brooklyn, NY
>
>
> www.loisaronow.com
>
Lois Ruben Aronow on tue 23 sep 08
^6 or higher, oxidation. Sorry.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Frank Gaydos
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:32 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Metallic glazes
>
> What cone?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lois Ruben Aronow"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:27 PM
> Subject: [CLAYART] Metallic glazes
>
>
> > I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean
> > lusters; I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking
> from the get-go.
> >
> > I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible to even make a
> > silver, gold, or copper, and have no idea where to start.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad to share my
> > results and post pics.
> >
> > thanks.....lo
> >
> > **********
> > Lois Aronow Porcelain
> >
> > Brooklyn, NY
> >
> >
> > www.loisaronow.com
> >
Lois Ruben Aronow on tue 23 sep 08
Oh, and food safety is NOT an issue.
>
> ^6 or higher, oxidation. Sorry.
>
>
> > What cone?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean
> > > lusters; I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking
> > from the get-go.
> > >
> > > I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible to even make a
> > > silver, gold, or copper, and have no idea where to start.
> > >
Caleb smith on tue 23 sep 08
Lois=2C
The bronze to gold effects of copper and manganese glazes are fairly well k=
nown. I use a glaze of equal parts RIO=2C copper carbonate and manganese d=
ioxide that produces nice reds in reduction cooling and nice golds and bron=
zes in soda or wood. =20
=20
I've also seen some Zinc glazes that are quite silver and metallic. Unfort=
unately my own attempts to replicate such a glaze have not been successful.=
No successful recipes for that one yet. =20
=20
I'm speaking of cone 10 glazes so far=2C but creating a metal coating on ce=
ramic is probably feasible too. Lower temperature clays might work better b=
ecause of their greater porosity. I think a coating of aluminum would be e=
specially nice=2C imagine the anodization possibilities.
=20
Best of luck=2C
=20
Caleb
=20
> Date: Mon=2C 22 Sep 2008 19:27:52 -0400> From: misslo@NYC.RR.COM> Subject=
: Metallic glazes> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > I'm trying to develop gl=
azes that look like metals. I don't mean lusters=3B> I'm looking into glaze=
s that are metallic looking from the get-go.> > I have a bronze=2C but have=
no idea if it's possible to even make a silver=2C> gold=2C or copper=2C an=
d have no idea where to start.> > Any suggestions would be appreciated=2C a=
nd I'll be glad to share my results> and post pics.> > thanks.....lo> > ***=
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jonathan byler on tue 23 sep 08
caleb,
would you be willing to share a bit more? I am guessing the equal
parts RIO, copper carb, and Manganese Dioxide are not the only
consituents in the glaze. are they equal parts @ 1 percent or so
each in some base glaze? I would love to see a recipe.
thanks,
jon
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 23, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Caleb smith wrote:
> Lois,
> The bronze to gold effects of copper and manganese glazes are
> fairly well known. I use a glaze of equal parts RIO, copper
> carbonate and manganese dioxide that produces nice reds in
> reduction cooling and nice golds and bronzes in soda or wood.
>
> I've also seen some Zinc glazes that are quite silver and
> metallic. Unfortunately my own attempts to replicate such a glaze
> have not been successful. No successful recipes for that one yet.
>
> I'm speaking of cone 10 glazes so far, but creating a metal coating
> on ceramic is probably feasible too. Lower temperature clays might
> work better because of their greater porosity. I think a coating
> of aluminum would be especially nice, imagine the anodization
> possibilities.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Caleb
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:27:52 -0400> From: misslo@NYC.RR.COM>
>> Subject: Metallic glazes> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > I'm
>> trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean
>> lusters;> I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from
>> the get-go.> > I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible
>> to even make a silver,> gold, or copper, and have no idea where to
>> start.> > Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad
>> to share my results> and post pics.> > thanks.....lo> >
>> **********> Lois Aronow Porcelain> > Brooklyn, NY> > >
>> www.loisaronow.com > >> www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com/>
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jonathan byler on tue 23 sep 08
Alisa,
with the oversaturation of iron, how much are you talking about? I
was looking at a mug the other day with a copper red inside and on
the lip, and the bottom was a gold/bronze color. I was curious how
that came about. Do you have any suggestions (or anyone else for
that matter) for a glaze that would make the gold/bronze color. we
primarily fire to a hard ^10.
thanks,
jon
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 23, 2008, at 2:30 AM, Alisa Clausen wrote:
> Hi Lois,
> I forget how you fire, although I know you fire porcelain.
> In my experience, without using lusters, I have gotten some
> metallic results with a heavy oversaturation of iron for bronze and
> copper for irridescent surfaces. The copper will usually run.
> Have not seen anything silver I can think of.
>
> Best regards, Alisa in Denmark
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Lois Ruben Aronow
> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean
>> lusters;
>> I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from the get-go.
>>
>> I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible to even make a
>> silver,
>> gold, or copper, and have no idea where to start.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad to share my
>> results
>> and post pics.
>>
>> thanks.....lo
>>
>> **********
>> Lois Aronow Porcelain
>>
>> Brooklyn, NY
>>
>>
>> www.loisaronow.com
>>
>>
Lois Ruben Aronow on tue 23 sep 08
I'd prefer not to go the coating or luster route, as I the ultimate goal
would be to make the glaze bead, like the rest of my body of work.
**********
Lois Aronow Porcelain
Brooklyn, NY
www.loisaronow.com
> I'm speaking of cone 10 glazes so far, but creating a metal
> coating on ceramic is probably feasible too. Lower
> temperature clays might work better because of their greater
> porosity. I think a coating of aluminum would be especially
> nice, imagine the anodization possibilities.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Caleb
>
jonathan byler on wed 24 sep 08
Caleb,
thanks for the info. I am guessing none of these are food safe. ;)
I will probably try out a major oversaturation of iron, since it
shouldn't pose any health problems, and then go from there for the
non food wares.
thanks,
jon
jon byler
3-D Building Coordinator
Art Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
On Sep 23, 2008, at 11:15 PM, Caleb smith wrote:
> Jon,
> I have seen several variations of Copper/manganese glazes with
> other ingredients and I should experiment with them as well as with
> my own. But mine is so simple to mix and it's been working for
> me. It is indeed ONLY Copper, Manganese and Iron. A little salt
> helps with suspension, but it still settles. From memory I can
> think of a recipe that includes whiting and one that has some
> silica, but I'm afraid the specific measurements are lost in the
> morass of my notes. I know nothing about their quality anyway.
> To be fair, my pots tend on the crusty side these days and I
> sometimes embrace pits, bubbles and ruckling (sp?) as interesting
> features. I fire in a small trainish wood/soda kiln and my glazes
> pick up lots of ash and sodium during the firing. In a gas firing
> my glazes don't always work out. But if you do some research and
> field the community, you're bound to find bronze to gold copper/
> manganese glazes that are formulated for gas firing.
> In the interest of hooking another poor soul into the world of
> crackpot glazing and endless test firings I went out into the
> studio and dusted off notebooks until I found a recipe. I'm afraid
> I can't vouch for its effectiveness. I think it comes from the
> archives of the USU Hyperglaze program.
>
> Manganese Slip (Gold/Black) apply to bisqueware:
> Manganese Dioxide 40
> Copper Carbonate 30
> EPK 20
> Ball Clay 10
> Perhaps adding feldspar or flux to this would make it more glossy?
>
> I use two variations myself:
>
> Dark Evil (Black/gold/red) Matte finish, very runny:
> Copper carbonate 60
> Manganese dioxide 40
>
> Blood of the Innocent (Black/gold/red/purple) Matte to glossy,
> can reduction cool, very runny:
> Copper carbonate 30
> Manganese Dioxide 30
> Red Iron oxide 30
> Salt 5 to 7
>
> There are many other variations. It's a long topic.
> Best,
> Caleb
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:20:13 -0500
>> From: jebyler2@GMAIL.COM
>> Subject: Re: Metallic glazes
>> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>>
>> caleb,
>>
>> would you be willing to share a bit more? I am guessing the equal
>> parts RIO, copper carb, and Manganese Dioxide are not the only
>> consituents in the glaze. are they equal parts @ 1 percent or so
>> each in some base glaze? I would love to see a recipe.
>>
>> thanks,
>> jon
>>
>>
>> jon byler
>> 3-D Building Coordinator
>> Art Department
>> Auburn University, AL 36849
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Caleb smith wrote:
>>
>>> Lois,
>>> The bronze to gold effects of copper and manganese glazes are
>>> fairly well known. I use a glaze of equal parts RIO, copper
>>> carbonate and manganese dioxide that produces nice reds in
>>> reduction cooling and nice golds and bronzes in soda or wood.
>>>
>>> I've also seen some Zinc glazes that are quite silver and
>>> metallic. Unfortunately my own attempts to replicate such a glaze
>>> have not been successful. No successful recipes for that one yet.
>>>
>>> I'm speaking of cone 10 glazes so far, but creating a metal coating
>>> on ceramic is probably feasible too. Lower temperature clays might
>>> work better because of their greater porosity. I think a coating
>>> of aluminum would be especially nice, imagine the anodization
>>> possibilities.
>>>
>>> Best of luck,
>>>
>>> Caleb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:27:52 -0400> From: misslo@NYC.RR.COM>
>>>> Subject: Metallic glazes> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > I'm
>>>> trying to develop glazes that look like metals. I don't mean
>>>> lusters;> I'm looking into glazes that are metallic looking from
>>>> the get-go.> > I have a bronze, but have no idea if it's possible
>>>> to even make a silver,> gold, or copper, and have no idea where to
>>>> start.> > Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I'll be glad
>>>> to share my results> and post pics.> > thanks.....lo> >
>>>> **********> Lois Aronow Porcelain> > Brooklyn, NY> > >
>>>> www.loisaronow.com > >>>> www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com/>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>> part of your life.
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>
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