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jeden@PO-Box.McGill.CA on sat 16 mar 96

If anyone is going to NCECA from the Montreal area and has room in their vehicle
for one more person, I am in need of a ride. I would of course share expenses.
I am a non smoker, licenced driver and house trained. :-) Thanks, Cheers John
Eden.

John Eden, E-mail> jeden@PO-Box.McGill.CA < or > john.eden@johnabbott.qc.ca
Home phone # 514-458-7097

Vince Pitelka on tue 19 mar 96


I returned from a week out West to find my email account completely
constipated, refusing to do anything. Finally got it cleared up, but time for
only this quick message before departing for NCECA. Anyone else out there
who's going to NCECA and hasn't left yet, please be sure to stop by my table in
the Exhibition Hall and say hello. Also looking forward to seeing some of you
at the Clayart breakfast. Drive carefully. Looks like the snowstorm will stay
west of us until after we arrive in Rochester. We're driving all the way from
central Tennessee tomorrow. Books-on-tape will see us through.

- Vince

Vince Pitelka - wkp0067@tntech.edu
Appalachian Center for Crafts

Mary & Joseph Carafiol on sun 24 mar 96

We are all anxious to hear reports from NCECA. Please tell us all the
highlights,and all the inbetweens..thank you much.

Lgeese@aol.com on tue 2 apr 96

This is just a quick note to say that this year was another great conference.
I found many of the lectures and panel discussions to be motivating and
inspiring in that they sparked some new ideas in regard to my own work.

The Randall Session was incredible. And the throwing demos were just what I
needed at this point in time. I'm REALLY sorry I missed the trip to Alfred!!
Poor planning on my part. By the time I saw how my Saturday was going to
fall into place -- too late. It sounds like it was a wonderful outing!

And for anyone who may be considering going next year for the first time --
stay on site. Last year, I stayed with friends in the Minneapolis area,
while this year I stayed at the (infamous) Holiday Inn. (Hey, at least we
got through the week without the ceiling in our room caving in!) Anyway,
staying on-site allows you to mingle and socialize so much more with your
fellow artists and you have ample opportunity for challenging discussions
regarding clay. And, yes, the not-so-academic discussions at 1:30 a.m.
around your 12th bowl of popcorn and ??th bottle of Genessee
whatever-it-was...
Anyway, it was a great time. I made a couple of connections that I hope will
be fruitful ones here in Des Moines as well. It was great to put faces with
names, to meet many new folks, and to get reacquianted with a few I met last
year.

I'm sure sorry I missed the breakfast! I didn't make a reservation ( I
know). And then when I came up to just sit in... I couldn't get in. But you
guys sounded like you were having a great time and I'll definetly be there
next year...unless I'm winning big at the blackjack table...just kidding...

Has anyone besides me noticed how many people are mentioning meeting/hanging
out with/laughing with Karla and Russell? Okay, it's not just me. Those two
are a hoot...and apparently...really got around! It was great meeting you
guys! And Karla, don't forget those discs you were going to mail me. :)
Russell - glad to see you've returned safely to Belgium with credit intact!
I enjoyed reading your NCECA essay yesterday! Ha - just kidding!

Well, back to work! Take care everyone!
Lisa in Des Moines - where it is actually supposed to hit 70 today! YAY!

Karl David Knudson on wed 3 apr 96

On Tue, 2 Apr 1996 Lgeese@aol.com wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> This is just a quick note to say that this year was another great conference.
> I found many of the lectures and panel discussions to be motivating and
> inspiring in that they sparked some new ideas in regard to my own work.

Ditto to that.

> The Randall Session was incredible. And the throwing demos were just what I
> needed at this point in time. I'm REALLY sorry I missed the trip to Alfred!!
> Poor planning on my part. By the time I saw how my Saturday was going to
> fall into place -- too late. It sounds like it was a wonderful outing!

Alfred was a great trip. If anyone was lucky enough to tour the
techonlogy exhibit with John Gill (he was almost as excited about his
show as Jim Robinson was about clay, wonderful to see people so in love
with what they do.) handling the exhibits was quite the experience.

> Has anyone besides me noticed how many people are mentioning meeting/hanging
> out with/laughing with Karla and Russell? Okay, it's not just me. Those two
> are a hoot...and apparently...really got around!

They really did. Seemed that everywhere I went I ran into Russel. Heck
by the end of the conference he had almost convinced me to take up firing
to dull red heat!...almost.

Clayart t-shirts next year.
Karl
Eugene, OR

Wendy Hampton on mon 16 sep 96

hi,
Does anyone know the dates of NCECA in Vegas next year?
Thanks,
Wendy from Bainbridge Island, WA

Jim Connell or set clayart mail on tue 17 sep 96


WINTHROP UNIVERSITY Electronic Mail Message
Date: 17-Sep-1996 08:12am EDT
From: James Connell
CONNELLJ
Dept: Art and Design
Tel No: 323-2126

TO: SMTP%"CLAYART@lsv.uky.edu" ( _SMTP%"CLAYART@lsv.uky.edu" )


Subject: Re: NCECA

NCECA starts Wed. April 2 through Sat. the 5th.

K. Lorensen on thu 19 sep 96

Hi Wendy,

I just received something in the mail yesterday that said
the NCECA Clay National runs Feb 21 - April 11. Exhibit
in conjunction with NCECA conference is 4/2 - 4/5. I'm
new at this, but hope to attend also.

Carie Lorensen
West Seattle

Barb & Ray Sapergia on fri 20 sep 96

After 'speaking' to some other clayfolk on IRC, my husband and I have
decided that we'd like to attend NCECA in Vegas in April...but we aren't
members. Does anybody out there know anything about it - when, where, do
you have to be a member, how do you get info - all that good stuff. We
are looking forward to meeting other Clayarters there, and thanks in
advance for the info.

Barb, in Beautiful BC where the sun still shines despite what the weather
bureau predicted.

hjbrager@owt.com on sat 21 sep 96

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>After 'speaking' to some other clayfolk on IRC, my husband and I have
>decided that we'd like to attend NCECA in Vegas in April...but we aren't
>members.

The contact for NCECA is Regina Brown `-800-999-NCECA or
http://calypso.nerdc.ufl.edu/~nceca/

Hope to see you all there (can hardly wait).

Judy (hjbrager@juno.com)

Joyce Lee..........Jim Lee on sat 5 oct 96

I very much want to attend the Vegas convention but can only stay about
three days. Do any of you convention-experienced people have suggestions
as to which three days might be best? As always, I appreciate your help
in the past and any time you may take to respond now.

Thank you,

Joyce
Mojave is gorgeous again. Can throw with doors open once more and watch
flickers, rabbits and ravens.

Karen Greene on thu 26 dec 96

Who has been to NCECA confernces before. What kind of opportunities are
there to network with other ppl. Is there anything like affinity groups.
I hope to go for the first time this year and i am scared. not an unusual
reaction on my part, being so easily frightened as it is. Are there ppl to
share rooms with? (to help cut the costs). Help. I know its early, but
planning is everything, yes? the frightened karen
kgreene@olywa.net


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Marcia Selsor & Matt Benacquista on fri 27 dec 96

Dear Karen,
NCECA is the same kind of folks as on Clayart except they're in the
flesh. I will be bringing a van of students with me from Montana.
If you want, keep in touch and maybe you can share a room with them.
Don't be scared. And sign up for the clayart breakfast to meet some of
the familiar names on CLAYART.
There will be technical information panels, great exhibits, emerging
artists demonstrating. The exhibition hall has suppliers displaying
tools, equipment, books, posters, info from places like Anderson Ranch,
the Appalachian Center for Crafts, etc. For "affinity", there are the
breakout sessions and topical discussion groups. And there is the Friday
night dance. Go, have fun, and meet lots of mud slingers.
Marcia in Montana

Karen Greene wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Who has been to NCECA confernces before. What kind of opportunities are
> there to network with other ppl. Is there anything like affinity groups.
> I hope to go for the first time this year and i am scared. not an unusual
> reaction on my part, being so easily frightened as it is. Are there ppl to
> share rooms with? (to help cut the costs). Help. I know its early, but
> planning is everything, yes? the frightened karen
> kgreene@olywa.net
>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> "Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark
> side, and it holds the universe together...."
> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> http://www.halcyon.com/cjlew/kgreene/kg.html

--
Marci Selsor
Matt Benacquista
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/
mjbmls@imt.net

Joyce Lee, Jim Lee on sat 28 dec 96

Does anybody know when we should hear about joining NCECA and receiving
registration materials? I thought it was Dec., but as I've said ad
nauseum, my hard drive crashed and I lost my bookmarks so do not know
whom to call. We have hotel reservations and are getting antsy even
though I'm aware nothing happens until March. Thank you for your many
detailed and kind suggestions that I back up my files. Could have,
should have, but did not. Appropriately chastized and ashamed. WILL NOW.
Humor me this time and I will forevermore BACK UP, bow to the east,
whatever, and be a lot more appreciative than I read. I just have a
feisty keyboard.

Joyce
Cloudy Mojave. Gorgeous Sierras. A good season for high desert
denizens.

PJLewing@aol.com on sun 29 dec 96

Karen,
Don't be scared of NCECA. It's the least intimidating group of people you'll
ever meet. I have heard hotel and restaurant workers at previous conferences
remark many times about how NCECA is the friendliest bunch of conventioneers
they've ever seen. As far as opportunities to network with other potters
with whom you share an affinity, that's about all NCECA is, for 4 days. If
you come back next year, you'll think you've known those people all your
life.
You might try asking the hotel to find you an NCECA roommate, or post a
request here on Clayart as it gets closer to the time. It's not too early to
book a room now. It may be more expensive, but I always find it much more
convenient to stay at the conference hotel. I think the best way to enjoy
NCECA is to stay very loose. People are always inviting you to tag along
with them to dinner or an opening, or something.
Be sure to get a Clayart button, and it will be even easier. If you really
know no one else, look for me. I'm hard to miss, being 6' 3" with a beard
that used to be red.
See you there.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

Barbrox@aol.com on sun 29 dec 96

Dear Karen
I went to NCECA for the first time last year and also suffer from major
shyness . I found it to be such a positive experience to be surrounded by so
many great clay focused people. There is so much going on all the time that
the time simply flies by.Just like Clayart folks are so very supportive and
willing to share,I found nceca participants to be very friendly and open.I
only wish that I could be there again this year. Go and enjoy! Barbara in
Lyme,Ct.

SLPBM@cc.usu.edu on mon 30 dec 96


Alright- looks like it is getting to be time to start looking for
roommates for the NCECA thing. How about those who need roommates post in
and see if anyone has reserved a room yet etc. I for one, would love to
share a room, but cant afford it solo. Would love to be close to the
action... as opposed to Rochester NCECA where I was on the other end
of town.

Thanks,
Alex Solla
slpbm@cc.usu.edu

Judy A Brager on mon 30 dec 96

I just received the information and sign-up form for the convention. Can
hardly wait until March. Is there going to be a breakfast? I was
thinking of making a button or necklace with my name and e-mail address
to wear at the convention. Do other Clayarters make these?
Looking forward to seeing you all in Vegas
Judy (hjbrager@juno.com)

Barb & Ray Sapergia on mon 30 dec 96

> Be sure to get a Clayart button, and it will be even easier.

Ok...where do you get Clayart buttons - what a good idea! We are
planning to be there, and are looking forward to meeting all you other
Clayarters out there.

Barb in snowy Vancouver Island, where it NEVER snows!

Roger Bourland on thu 2 jan 97

You don't want to hear this.

I made my hotel reservations yesterday. Friday Bally's is full! The
Flamingo Hilton, nearby has openings in the $175 range.

Ideas, anyone?

Roger Bourland

Robert Kittel on fri 3 jan 97

At 04:13 PM 1/2/97 +0000, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>You don't want to hear this.
>
> I made my hotel reservations yesterday. Friday Bally's is full! The
>Flamingo Hilton, nearby has openings in the $175 range.
>
>Ideas, anyone?
>
>Roger Bourland


Yes i do,,get a room downtown in one of the older casinos, probably less
than 50 a night. Use your savings for cab fare or if alot of us are camped
downtown then Cab-pool.

Louis Katz on fri 3 jan 97

A page I got from someone in the NCECA superstructure gives the following
hotel options, from cheapest to most expensive. I am staying at the DAYS
INN it is supposedly around the corner from Balleys.

Super Eight 800 800 8000
Days Inn 800 634 6541 Rates 45$ April 1-3 $65 April 4-5
Maxim 800 634 6987
Imperial 800 634 6441

HOJO 800 654 2000
Louis


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*Louis Katz lkatz@falcon.tamucc.edu *
*Texas A&M University Corpus Christi *
*6300 Ocean Drive, Art Department *
*Corpus Christi, Tx 78412 *
*Phone (512) 994-5987 *
**************************************************

MR MICHAEL S FLOOD on fri 3 jan 97

My friend and I ran into the same problem. We made reservations at
the Alladin. It's right down the street. Cost varies per night.
First one or two nights the room charge is $45. Increases
significantly the last two nights (higher weekend rate).

Bridget McDermott Flood
Fireworks Studio
St. Louis, MO

Curt Heuer on fri 3 jan 97

I agree with Bob Kittle, try the downtown hotels. If you want to be closer
to the conference center try The Barbary Coast; it looks like it's right
across the street from Bally's. Wed. and Thurs. $75 for a double, Fri
$125. That averages out to close to the conference rates at Bally's. Or
check the Las Vegas Hotels listing at * http://www.pcap.com/hotel.htm *.
It lists addresses, 800 phone #s, and price ranges.

See you in Vegas.

Curt Heuer
UW-Green Bay

Vince Pitelka on sat 4 jan 97

>Days Inn 800 634 6541 Rates 45$ April 1-3 $65 April 4-5
>Louis

Warm thanks to Louis Katz. Days Inn Las Vegas is located directly behind
Bally's and still has rooms available for NCECA for the above prices. I got
mine. Get yours quick. Actually, if you are still without a room there is
extensive information about Las Vegas hotels and motels available on the
net. Just search.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@Dekalb.Net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts, Smithville TN 37166

Tony Hansen on sat 4 jan 97

Don't forget one thing: "Across the Street" might seem like a 1 minute
walk, but it is alot farther in Vegas than anywhere else. These places
are really huge and they are set back from the strip a long way.

--
=================================================================
Tony Hansen, IMC - Publishers of INSIGHT/FORESIGHT/Magic of Fire
Get INSIGHT 5 beta at http://digitalfire.com/insight5.htm

Susan Goldstein on sun 12 jan 97

I have a room reservation at the conference sight and will probably be
cancelling this as it gets closer to the date. If anyone strongly desires a
room in this location I would be glad to see if the reservation can be
transfered to another name.

Dinah Collopy on wed 19 mar 97

I'm cancelling a reservation at Bally for the Tues, Wed &Thurs nights of
NCECA. I'll wait until Thurs Mar 20 to call the hotel to give anyone who
might want to pick it up time to contact them before they give the room to
someone nonconference.
Dinah

Tony Hansen on tue 1 apr 97

Heading for NCECA tommorrow.
Anyone who wants a 'knock-your-socks-off' clay name tag see me
at Axner's. I should be there by Thursday morning.

--
Tony Hansen, IMC thansen@mlc.awinc.com
INSIGHT5/Magic of Fire II demos at www.ceramicsoftware.com

Margaret Arial on wed 2 apr 97

I have had difficulty reaching Rebecca Houston to inform her I cannot make
the conference dispite repeated emails.Would anyone going or who know her
please give her my regrets and tell her that the desk for the conference and
the message board would be likely sources for an additional roomie.I have
tried since 3-24 to reach her she will be at Ballys.
Margaret (home still under construction inspection due this week and
partially moved)

Vince Pitelka on wed 9 apr 97

Just wanted to let you all know my impressions of NCECA.
Las Vegas was much more than I expected. It was much more chaotic, much
more tacky, much more absurd, much more low-class. What an extraordinarily
blatant expression of extremely bad taste on an astromical scale.
Supposedly the light on top on top of the Luxor, pointing straight up in
space, is the most powerful light on earth. Hopefully aliens will be
offended by it and will come down and destroy the place, along with
everything within a ten-mile radius.
Good riddance.

The conference had its ups and downs. I was delighted to have so many
people visit my table and pick up information about the Craft Center. That
part of it was great, and that's where I spent most of my time. In general
I heard lukewarm reports about most of the organized events. What a shame.
It was as if everyone expected to come to Las Vegas and spend all their time
partying, and therefore did not expend their normal effort on planning and
presenting events. There were certainly some very good events, and I am sure
others will post about them. But it was a big mistake to have the
conference in such a giant hotel, with the various events so widely
separated. In the past, the commercial exhibitors and non-profit exhibitors
have been in close proximity, to their mutual benefit. The non-profit
exhibitors need and deserve the additional traffic gained by being near the
commercial exhibitors. That was not the case this year. And the space
allocated for non-profit exhibitors was completely inadequate, and many
groups that wanted to be there were not accommodated at all. That is really
a sad situation. Finally, the demonstrations were held in some meeting
rooms way up on the 23rd floor of one of the towers, which really left
things feeling scattered. In previous conferences it has usually been
possible to move back and forth between various events, which is a great
advantage (especially for those of us trying to man a table or booth). That
was not the case this year. Finally, with the Sony Conference at Bally's
and the National Association of Broadcasters Conference (150,000 attendees)
in town, both taking place concurrently with NCECA, there was not nearly the
"ceramic presence" that one usually feels within the conference hotel at
most NCECA conferences, even with the over 3000 attendees this year.

One very positive thing was the quality and quantity of exhibitions. I did
not see them all, but I did see the ones at UNLV, and they were excellent.
The regional student exhibition, which included lots of entries from
universities in Arizona and Utah, was quite extraordinary. The NCECA
national was markedly superior to either of the last two, at Minneapolis and
Rochester.

I did have a wonderful time this past week. It was great to meet and talk
to so many people at my table in the non-profit exhibitors area, and I know
that all the contacts will help insure the future of our facility. The
Clayart Breakfast was marvelous, although I wish we had all had a little
time for socializing after the formalities. I stayed in Las Vegas through
the weekend, and was able to cleanse my system of all the visual/aesthetic
toxins of LV by spending Saturday in Death Valley and Sunday at Zion
National Park. Zion may be the most amazing place I have ever been. It is
a disturbing but very fortunate reality that such a large segment of the
American population would rather go to Las Vegas than to Zion Canyon.

I hope I am not whining too much. I will be interested in hearing other
opinions on the above.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

Craig Fent on thu 10 apr 97

Vince, I don't know what to say. For myself and everyone I went with and
pretty much everyone I talk to at the conference really enjoyed having it in
Las Vegas. Sure, it's a little overdone and glitzy, but that is why people
go there. It's supposed to be a deversion from normal life.

I had some complaints about the way registeration was handled, I never liked
waiting in lines. I think pre-registered persons should have their name tags
sent to them with the other information that is sent anyway and then the rest
of the information could be picked up in a room that only persons with name
tags had access. What is the real advantage to pre-registering anyway. Just
a suggestion.

I don't think it is up to the conference planners to make sure everyone is
herded by the non-profit exhibits, if people want to see them, they will find
them. BTW I made several passes through there myself and I am the treasurer
of a non-profit.

I too thought the exhibits were great, only regret I couldn't get to all of
them.

I, personally, was a little disappointed in the demonstrations, but I am a
potter, and a would rather that all of the demos been throwing demos. But,
that is just me and I know that there were lots of people interested in all
of the other demos presented. I still gathered a lot of information from the
demos.

Didn't have the time or money to take any side trips to Death Valley or Zion
National Park, but I would have liked to, maybe next time.

All in all I had a great time in Las Vegas, won a little money, saw some
great entertainment and enjoyed the conference too. And yes Vince, your
whinning too much.

Craig Fent

Jack Troy on thu 10 apr 97

I agree with Vince's curmudgeonly remarks about the setting for NCECA.
A friend told me he'd ridden to Bally's in an airport limo and a passenger asked
him which casino he'd come to gamble in. "I'm here for the NCECA conference at
Bally's. It's for people interested in ceramics."
"You mean like pottery?"
"Yes. Like pottery."
"What's to say about pottery?"

While it's true that such a conversation might have occurred anywhere, it
seemed especially appropriate to Vegas, the pretention-capital of the planet.
(In fairness, though, it's nice that people who like that sort of thing have a
zone of their own).
Like Vince, I was concerned about glitz-innoculation, and originally intended to
go backpacking with Joe Bennion, but we couldn't work out the logistics, so I
accompanied David Furman's group to Mexico City. It was my first trip to that
country, and proved to be just right. For years I've wanted to visit the
splendid museum of anthropology and archeology, and found that two days was
barely enough to take in the magnificent collection of pre-Columbian pots,
artifacts, sculptures, and other various exhibitions honoring Mexico's past, not
to mention the building itself, and its setting, which are magnificent.
In a peciliar cosmic conjunction, I found myself sitting on top of the Pyramid
of the Moon at Teotihucan watching two butterflies precisely when my mother's
household effects were being auctioned off in Reading, PA. What a world!
David has run this trip many times, and claims to have one more in him for next
year. I strongly suggest going along. David is an ideal non-guide - a
helpfully informative enthusiast with not an authoritarian bone in his body. He
has lived in Mexico City and encouraged us to explore its very accessible points
of interest. (He was discreet about his passion for smoking tobacco in the shape
of big suppositories, so we didn't soak up 2nd hand smoke in our clothes as we
did at Bally's. [What _is_ it about the relationship between gambling, blank
looks on the face, and chain-smoking?]).
Like Vince, I found the juried exhibitions at the university to be especially
worthwhile. AND the super-democratic NCECA Fellowship Cup Sale has become a
feature well worth taking in. "I never knew a cup could be so many things!" one
of my students told me. There's something inspirational about getting in the
long line snaking its way past the tables of cups...cups from all over... cups
forming against all the odds one huge litter up for adoption... cups some of you
might be drinking from now...cups that say in our own way, "This is the heart of
the conference - what we make and donate for the greater good; for the
Fellowship of it." A little like what Robert Frost called, "A momentary stay
against confusion."
That'd be a good line to pass on to the guy in the limo.
Jack Troy

Mari Soto on thu 10 apr 97

>Hopefully aliens will be
>offended by it and will come down and destroy the place, along with
>everything within a ten-mile radius.
>Good riddance.

===========================================================

Be kind, Vince.
Look at it this way: A world where the right to live or die depended on one's
good taste would not be one you'd like to live in. ;-)

BTW, I like Las Vegas -- I look at it in a totally different way from you.
I feel sad when I see all those beautiful old public buildings in Chicago
because it reminds me of how much we have fallen. It would be unthinkable
today for local governments to construct buildings on such a magnificent
scale. The money simply isn't there. Therefore (in a leap of logic no doubt),
it comforts me to know that there are still places in America where they
don't think twice about reproducing statues from Roman times with marble from
the same quarry as used by the original artists, or erecting buildings that
denote a knowledge of Ancient Egypt unknown to most Americans today.
That it wasn't done to my taste, oh well...
As the closing line in "Some Like It Hot" says: Nobody's perfect.

mari

Lisa or Ginny on thu 10 apr 97

Vince Pitelka wrote:
> I hope I am not whining too much. I will be interested in hearing other opini

Vince, et al.
While I did not go to NCECA this year, I was seriously considering
attending next year. However, the reports that I'm hearing absolutely
turn me off. I am NOT interested in streakers, (male OR female), and am
disgusted that someone's work was stolen. What a way to show the world
the type of people potters are!

Please restore my faith and tell me the NCECA isn't always like this....
--
Lisa Skeen
Living Tree Pottery
Greensboro, NC
YesIAmRU?
Email: lpskeen@nr.infi.net

Brad S. Reitz on thu 10 apr 97

Vince,

As a 20 year resident of Las Vegas, I cannot let your "flames" about our town
go unchallenged. Tacky, blatant, offensive, absurd, and bad taste seem a bit
strong of a reaction from a couple day visit. Yet you speak so highly of the
quality of art exhibits around town and the surrounding mountains and desert.
Just as the artist tries to evoke a personal reaction from their medium, so
does Las Vegas. Maybe you should think about why it bothered you so much in
the first place, eh? And the comment about aliens blowing up everything in a
ten mile radius?? Excuuuse me!

You asked for our reactions!!

Dave and Pat Eitel on fri 11 apr 97

Does anyone know the dates and locations of nceca for the next couple of years?

Later...Dave

Dave Eitel
Cedar Creek Pottery
Cedarburg, WI
pots@cedarcreekpottery.com
http://www.cedarcreekpottery.com

Roeder on fri 11 apr 97

Hello all,

Well, I'm still recovering from my week in Las Vegas.

I arrived late Wednesday afternoon, so was unable to take the busses to the
various exhibits. I stayed through Tuesday, though, and went to the ones at
UNLV as well as Tom Coleman's studio on Monday. An interesting note....the
literature stated the exhibits would be open at the time I went to visit
them (checked and re-checked that) and some of the UNLV exhibits were locked
up. I did see the NCECA National, since the museum was open. Even
Coleman's studio was closed up. Someone took pity on me and opened it up,
and for this functional potter, it was a feast for the eyes and soul. Very
nice.

This was my first NCECA visit. It was bigger and more overwhelming than I
had imagined. So many things going on at the same time. Sometimes there
would be nothing to interest me, and other times everything in one time slot
would be of interest.

I liked the cone 6 discussion (I have two handout sheets...don't know if
there were more....somewhere still unpacked) and the discussion about the
internet (thanks Jack Troy). Interesting stuff.

I did not like standing in line for the last two nights. I also found
standing room only (or floor sitting) at some of the events. My back just
could not take that, so I had to leave on a couple occasions.

The Thursday night Olesko thing was a bit far gone for my tastes...ended up
going to my room that evening!

The clayart breakfast was great...I agree with Vince, not enough time to
visit after the introductions were finished. We need a clayart cocktail
hour....clayart sock-hop....

I finished the week with some hiking in the Valley of Fire State Park and
Red Rocks Canyon. Beautiful.

Las Vegas was big and glitzy...overdone and overbearing...ugly and
astounding....really tacky and just about everything I expected it to be.


Recovering in Michigan, where it refuses to be spring,

Candice Roeder

Vince Pitelka on fri 11 apr 97

>Vince, et al.
>While I did not go to NCECA this year, I was seriously considering
>attending next year. However, the reports that I'm hearing absolutely
>turn me off. I am NOT interested in streakers, (male OR female), and am
>disgusted that someone's work was stolen. What a way to show the world
>the type of people potters are!
>
>Please restore my faith and tell me the NCECA isn't always like this....
>--
>Lisa Skeen
>Living Tree Pottery

Lisa -
The next three NCECAs, in Fort Worth, Columbus, and Boulder (or is it
Denver?), will all be far superior to the Las Vegas one. At this conference
people came expecting to be distracted from "business as usual," and the
conference content suffered. My curmudgeonly remarks in my earlier post
were based on my great respect for NCECA, and my tremendous appreciation of
all the past conferences I have attended. They are a high point of my year.
You can never go wrong attending an NCECA conference. At this NCECA the
theft of artworks was a terrible thing, but as far as outrageous behavior
goes, I was baffled that there was so little of it. I thought that there
would be far more in this most outrageous of places. The conference
publicity certainly primed us for it.

I heard from someone that the average visitor to Las Vegas looses $500
during their trip, and that 30 million people per year visit Las Vegas.
While I would love to see all that money go to something more socially
responsible (now I'm REALLY being idealistic!!), I am certainly gratified
that those 30 million people would rather go to Las Vegas than to Death
Valley or Zion Canyon.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

Michelle H. Lowe on sat 12 apr 97

> While I did not go to NCECA this year, I was seriously considering
> attending next year. However, the reports that I'm hearing absolutely
> turn me off. I am NOT interested in streakers, (male OR female), and am
> disgusted that someone's work was stolen. What a way to show the world
> the type of people potters are!
>
> Please restore my faith and tell me the NCECA isn't always like this....

I don't know what it is "always" like, this was my first year
attending the conference in full (I got to attend part time when it
was near home in Tempe in '91). This year, I looked forward for
months, to the experience of meeting potter friends I knew from
"online" and getting to talk to them in real life. The reality *far*
exceeded expectations, as I met online and other potter friends, I did
not want to sleep, with the pleasure of endless conversations
about many aspects of potting with people who care as much as I do
and who don't get tired of talking about it. And so MANY of those
people! Yes Las Vegas was overwhelming and yes, another place would
probably have been a better choice, but, except for the robbery, I like
NCECA the way it is (streakers and all). I think there is something
there for just about anyone with any interest in clay and any
approach to the world.

Don't be put off by the negative aspects of the reports, it's just
that there is SO MUCH THERE, that it's overwhelming in and of itself
and the addition of the Las Vegas atmosphere probably put some of us
potters over the edge!

I heard Cornelius put on a heck of a demo with paper thin slabs, I
missed that one, anybody want to report?

Mishy
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Timothy Dean Malm on sat 12 apr 97

The NCECA experience is always a varied one for me. The thing I missed at
NCECA this time was being unable (actually unwilling) to spend $70 for a
beautiful brush when one saleperson said it was $35 and upon offering
payment was told by another salesperson that it was $70. It was a
beautiful brush but ecomomics won over deep desire.

Tim Malm
Seattle

Mark Issenberg on sat 12 apr 97

Howdy all: Well, I started my NCECA trip a week earlier than the rest of
you. I went to the Tom Coleman workshop first. There was 30 of us and I
really enjoyed it. 3 of us stayed at a motel sorta close by. Then we
had to walk a couple miles every morning to go to the Coleman studio
which was ok for exercise. The workshop started around 9 AM until about
4:30 except for Sunday, when Tom stayed until 12:30 glazing. They fired
off the kiln Monday with lots of wind and the kiln is outside. I guess
Tom didn't think he would get reds but he sure did despite the wind. The
Geils kilns in fiber work great. I spray all my glazes and I use all ash
glazes and I've been using Paache sprayers (2 different types) but I've
been wanting to buy a hi-volume low pressure HVLP sprayer but I haven't
seen one in Miami. Tom told us about a place where they were on sale.
So, 20 of us went there and bought them. They were listed for a 100 but
we got them for under $50. I haven't used it yet because I haven't been
making pots. I'm still preparing my house for sale and getting rid of a
lot of the plants on the acre. By the time I was ready for NCECA, I was
ready to go home. Las Vegas is Las Vegas. There is no other place like
it. BUT a few miles out of town and you're out in the most beautiful
desert. One afternoon I went to Red Rock Canyon and only saw a couple of
people. So, more or less that was my impression of NCECA. PS I"m still
selling an Alpine 24 and also a couple of palettes of bricks.
Mark in Miami
(305)232-0278

Craig Fent on sat 12 apr 97

Lisa:

NCECA, like so many other things in life, is what you make out of it. Just
because it is in Vegas doesn't mean you have to forget going to the exhibits,
lectures and demos so you can go gamble. Anywhere it's at you can allways
just go to the events you want to and forget about the place it is held at.
There is so much to gain from going, no matter where it is at. I would
recomend attending, period.

Now, for my part, I like attending events such as this where I can enjoy the
surroundings too. I really enjoy gambling, although I could have done
without the noise of the slots and the cigarette smoke (cigars too, I
understand there was a cigar conference in Vegas at the same time). Anyway I
had a great time visiting with old and new friends, learning new technics,
and ideas along with the entertainment Vegas had to offer. If it were held a
town where held in a city where everywhere you went they played rap music (I
hate rap), I would still go.

So, next year, don't worry about where it is if you really want to go. Just
go, and enjoy the conference, it's always been a pleasure for me, even if I
didn't like some of the things about it or where it was held.

Craig Fent

Mark Richard Leach on sat 12 apr 97

Clayarters...I too want to share my observations on NCECA! I should say
that I am a new advisory board member to NCECA and that, 24 years ago, I
called Las Vegas a temporary home while serving in the United States Air
Force. I am also a curator and now, as a representative of the Mint
Museum of Art, I am working with NCECA to establish the NCECA Ceramic
Collection at the Mint.

It is unfortunate that theft of such wonderful works of art took place at
this year's conference. Unless there is new news, I don't believe that
there has been a determination as to the guilty party. Any work of art
that is stolen or irreparably damaged is one too many as far as I'm
concerned! Nonetheless, from the bottom of my heart, I want to thank the
NCECA board and advisory board, Mark Burns (site coordinator), and UNLV,
among others, for the extraordinary efforts put forth to make this year's
event a tremendously rich and rewarding experience. Coordinating,
producing and programming an event this large is a herculean feat. Many
colleagues with whom I've communicated post-NCECA also expressed
enthusiasm and appreciation for the keynote address, Tony Hepburn's
post-conference address, the Randall Session, the Clay National, Judith
Schwartz's compelling analysis of socially-grounded ceramic art, and the
many other associated events. As with any event this large, scale
necessitates that we all make the best of the available resources. Thus,
every annual event has its unique character, challenges, delights and
frustrations. And this is just as it should be. For myself, I try not
to loose sight of but instead I endeavor to honor the event, the
wonderful, talented and intelligent professionals that I met, and the
boundless energy and commitment to the ceramic field that is NCECA.

What an outrageous and worthwhile organization NCECA is and will continue
to be!

I salute each and every one of you!!!

Mark Richard Leach
Curator of Twentieth Century Art
Mint Museum of Art, Charlotte

Vince Pitelka on sat 12 apr 97

At 11:34 AM 4/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Does anyone know the dates and locations of nceca for the next couple of years?
>
>Later...Dave
>
>Dave Eitel
>Cedar Creek Pottery
>Cedarburg, WI

Dave -
I do not know the dates, but 1998 is in Fort Worth, 1999 is in Columbus, and
2000 is in Denver or Boulder. I think 2001 is on Mars.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

"WNTHRP::MRGATE::\"A1::CONNELLJ\""@winthrop.edu on sun 13 apr 97

The dates for next years NCECA in Fort Worth (or is it Fort Worthless--ha, ha
just a dumb old joke) are: March 25-28 1998.

Jim

jetharrs@pacific.telebyte.net on sun 13 apr 97

This was my first NCECA conference. What an experience. I felt like I had
just walked into a smorgesboard and wanted to be everywhere at once.

(Too bad I couldn't have cloned myself just for the four days and gone
everywhere, returned to my digs at night to reunite and discuss with myself
everything I saw. )

Every panel and break-out I went to was interesting. I did enjoy the
intimacy of the break-out discussions the most because of the give and take
of the format. Some of the discriptions of the panels were confusing and
sometimes even off-putting leaving you scratching your head trying to
understand just what they meant.

And I agree that the exhibits were great, too far flung, and poorly mapped.
What I did see I truly enjoyed and learned from. Looking at all those
cups in the sale was also a highlight. The CLAYART breakfast was
terrific--Definately a repeatable event for next year plus maybe another
get-together.

One of the most enjoyable aspects of the conference was meeting and talking
to other potters. What a friendly bunch we are! Conversations got started
with neighbors in panel discussions, at resting places in the hallways, in
exhibitions, resturants, hotels and buses. I met people from all over the
place.

As for Las Vegas--Feh! Everytime I go there I fell like I've landed in OZ.
I was struck by the irony of the conference and the setting.

(It's my understanding that one--just one casino floor in Las Vegas rakes
in, on average, about 3 million dollars per day. Why anyone would want to
plug in their hard-earned cash into a machine and get lights and
doodle-doodle-doodle bells in return in utterly out of my kin. The only
luck involved these days is if you happen to be standing in front of the
machine when it's computer clicks over to payout.

Too bad NCECA couldn't have wheeled in a slot machine or two onto the
fringe of a casino floor in order to rake in a few funding bucks. ; ) )

Karl David Knudson on sun 13 apr 97

On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Vince Pitelka wrote:
> I do not know the dates, but 1998 is in Fort Worth, 1999 is in Columbus, and
> 2000 is in Denver or Boulder. I think 2001 is on Mars.

I thought that 2001 was on the moon with buses for the exhibits on
Jupiter. I know that 2010 is on Europa (where there's lots of places to
swim I hear). No news on the 3001 conference yet...

Karl in Eugene.

Laurie Force on sun 13 apr 97

Hello Clayart friends,
I want to add my comments on NCECA. This was my first venture and
I will definitely go again. So many viewpoints to consider, so much
information to absorb, so much wonderful clay to appreciate. The
exhibitions were in fact my favorite and I wished I could have seen even
more of them. I wished fervently that the tour buses had been scheduled
all week, even if for a slight additional fee! It was very difficult to
get a place on the buses and they only ran for one day. I did discover
the city buses and took advantage of them to catch a couple more shows.
My favorite presentation was the one on salt-glazing. My
professor would really like a copy of the research done by Wil Shynkaruk
at Utah State University--does anybody know if it's been published yet?
Or Wil's e-mail address?
I agree that listening to people read papers instead of talking to us
was a real yawn.
I did not appreciate Vegas and did not have transportation to the
desert. NCECA was plenty stimulating...the Strip on top of NCECA was
enough to put me on overload most of the time. And the smoke was
appalling. I noticed that NCECA will be in Fort Worth and then Denver, I
believe...is it always in cities? How about a ranch/resort(just for a
change)? Are there any big enough?
Despite any drawbacks, I am so glad I went. It was great to get a
broader perspective than is available in my small town.

Laurie in Grand Junction, CO

Suzanne Wolfe on sun 13 apr 97

I have just reread Vince's assessment of this year's NCECA conference, and
would like to respond to it. For the past number of years, I have been
very disappointed in the conference programs. NCECA represents a very
diverse group of individuals, and that being the case, the conferences
need to present a great variety of activities that will appeal to all
these audiences. Again, there were far too few panels. If our discipline
can be divided into theoritical, historical, and technical, shouldn't
there be at least one panel during each time slot that addressed each of
these areas? Shouldn't they be panels that challenged our ideas and
presumptions about our craft/art rather than fed us the pablum that we are
so used to consuming? How many glaze recipes do we need? Will they
really make our work better? Isn't there something deeper than that glaze
surface that we need to confront in our work? That the conference broke
attendance records has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the
presentations.
For me, one of the highlights of the conference is seeing the exhibitions,
and the Wednesday bus schedules were close to ridiculous. There were five
routes, and it was only possible to do two of them in the time alotted.
Not only that, there were not enough buses for each route to begin with.
The latter has been a consistent problem at NCECA for the past several
years, and definitely needs a solution -- be it more buses, more time
slots, paying extra for buses, whatever. But this conference took the
cake for great promises and poor delivery. In regards to the
exhibitions, I am a bit curious about the student show at UNLV, and the
two works that were housed in an upper section of the gallery. They were
not at all identified by artist, and seemed like am after thought. They
also dealt with sexually explicit subject matter. I do not understand
why they were up in that space, and why they were not even titled. Does
anyone have a clue about those pieces?
So many ceramics people complain about our craft not being taken
seriously, yet we persist in wanting to know how to hammer the nail, or
how to even choose the proper material for the nail (should it be
stainless or brass?), instead of asking what on earth we are making and
why? Where does what we make fit into our culture and our value system -
or how are we challenging those systems. My concern about NCECA has to do
with this reluctance to foster dialogue about who we are and what we think
we are doing. This is evident to me from the conference programs from the
last several years. We need more panels, more controvery, more dialogue,
less self-congratulation, and a lot more critical thinking.
As an aside, it would sure be nice to have a conference booklet where you
could see the day's activities at a glance. There is something to be said
for the format of the TV guide.
Suzanne Wolfe

Patrick & Lynn Hilferty on mon 14 apr 97

At 8:28 AM -0700 4/13/97, Suzanne Wolfe wrote, among other things:

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>So many ceramics people complain about our craft not being taken
>seriously, yet we persist in wanting to know how to hammer the nail, or
>how to even choose the proper material for the nail (should it be
>stainless or brass?), instead of asking what on earth we are making and
>why? Where does what we make fit into our culture and our value system -
>or how are we challenging those systems. My concern about NCECA has to do
>with this reluctance to foster dialogue about who we are and what we think
>we are doing. This is evident to me from the conference programs from the
>last several years. We need more panels, more controvery, more dialogue,
>less self-congratulation, and a lot more critical thinking.

But, this would mean that "art" would have to be talked about (gasp!), and
that people involved in areas of ceramics would have to do the talking!

Patrick

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Belmont, CA 94002
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PJLewing@aol.com on mon 14 apr 97

Well, I just had to get my 2 cents in on NCECA.
I was certainly glad to get away from the bad air-conditioning, the smoke,
the noise and the bad buffet food. But there were some real highlights.
Like virtually everyone else, I was only able to take in one bus trip, the
one to UNLV. When are they going to learn how to do those bus trips? Why
didn't a volunteer drive the route ahead of time, and ride the first bus of
the day? Why are the first 4 or 5 drivers trying to figure out where to
park? And why did they bring out the COLD RAIN? I was hoping to get away
from that! (oops, sorry, not their fault) Oh, well, it could have been
worse. Remember San Diego, where hundreds of people were stranded miles from
the hotel?
But the shows I did see were great. For me the highlights were the
salt-and-pepper shaker shows (one contemporary and the other a kitsch
collection), the platter show (one of the most impressive clay shows I've
seen in a long time), and a few pieces in the NCECA National, including
Eleanora Eden's delightful casserole, which was even nicer in person than it
was in CM. And Ron Roy's temmoku plate. It's rare to see a funcional pot in
that show, and this was a dandy. The glaze was (as we would expect) to die
for; it was simple and elegant, and I wanted to take it home and lick it.
Another highlight for me was meeting so many of my glaze heroes- Ron, Tony
Hansen, Richard Burkett, Rick Malmgren, and Pete Pinell. I almost (but not
quite) got enough glaze chemistry to last me a while. Thank God there are
others as obsessed as I.
The ^6 glaze panel was great. Pete Pinell in about 10 minutes gave a view of
that temperature that really put a lot of things in perspectives.
I haven't heard anyone else comment on the kitsch S&P shaker slide show.
Those people were having such fun! And the shakers were truly amazing.

Every year I hear criticisms of NCECA that, I think, come from a
misunderstanding of NCECA and how it operates. Often there isn't much there
for the studio potter who's making a living in clay. That's not what NCECA
is about. It's the National Council on Education in the Ceramic Arts. It's
for teachers. I thought last year's conference, which was all about
technology and artists working with industry was incredibly exciting, but a
lot of teachers complained there was nothing there of interest. That's why
there are always so many panels on Dialectical Alternatives to
Deconstructivist Aesthetics in a Multi-Cultural Curriculum Synopsis, or some
such.

And, remember, the main thing that determines where it's held is that there
is a teacher at some school that's willing to do it. It was not in Las Vegas
because that's the ideal place for a clay conference. It was there because
Mark Burns was willing to host it at UNLV.
The same applies to the facilities. It was, I heard, hard to find a hotel in
LV that would take a conference as SMALL as NCECA. You may say there should
have been more panels, but when all the rooms big enough for panels are
full......? It was inconvenient that the demos were up on the 26th floor,
but where else could they have been?
And, of course NCECA is always in a city. There just aren't too many
affordable rural resorts with rooms for 2000-3000 people, conference rooms,
restaurants, airport, show venues, etc.
Each conference is different, but one thing never changes. This is the best
bunch of people I've ever met. Here's an example. At the San Diego
conference, where there was almost no restaurant space, a friend and I stood
in line and were finally seated, 2 people at a 4-person table. We told the
waitress she could seat the next 2 NCECA people at our table. We didn't care
if we knew them or not. As we left, she said NCECA people had been doing
that all morning, and they had never seen that before with any other group.
The car dealers, or the computer people, or whatever, would sit there with 2
empty seats and look at a line of people waiting to sit down! That kind of
courtesy and friendliness comes so naturally to potters that we forget how
rare it is.
So I'll see y'all in Ft. Worth, where this old cowboy will fit in a lot
better than in Las Vegas.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

Michelle H. Lowe on tue 15 apr 97

> In regards to the
> exhibitions, I am a bit curious about the student show at UNLV, and the
> two works that were housed in an upper section of the gallery. They were
> not at all identified by artist, and seemed like am after thought. They
> also dealt with sexually explicit subject matter. I do not understand
> why they were up in that space, and why they were not even titled. Does
> anyone have a clue about those pieces?

When we went through that exhibit, there were post-it notes on the
wall near each piece, identifying the name of the piece the artist and
both said Archie Bray Foundation.

We got a good laugh out of that one and wondered if they were the
"black sheep" of the exhibitions...

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ret on tue 15 apr 97

I've been reading the excellent NCECA reports with great interest, not
only because I could not be there, but also from the point of view of
somebody who is a
bit involved in setting up our own International Ceramics Symposium,
Fireworks, for May 1998.
What I seem to gather from all comments is that Bigger is not necesssarily
Better. We, up here, have been trying to get more potters to attend. Maybe
we should keep what we have as long as it is financially self-supporting.
We have world-class demonstrators and lecturers (Rudy Autio, Don Reitz,
Steve Heineman, Les Manning, Nina Hole, Ron Roy, etc to name just a few,
and for
next year have lined up Jun Kuneko and Warren Mackenzie-about as
extreme as one can go and be working in clay. (I believe that is
finalized) We also have relatively "not-yet-quite-emerged" artists.

In the past, this has been a very intimate series of workshops with the
opportunity to talk privately with the lecturers or hand-on presenters.
One felt privileged to have that chance.
We have about 120-140 registrations, barely enough to make a go of it. Do
you NCECA attendees think this kind of symposium would tempt you to
attend? We have panel discussions, lots of demonstrations, very few
lectures. Last year, a very interesting lecture on ceramic toxicology was
far too short. We ran out of time at the question period.
It may repeated/continued next year because of all the interest it
generated.

We are arranging billeting for anybody who needs it,to cut
down on the expense.

I believe there is a web page in the making (missed a few committee
meetings) and I will keep you posted if nobody else does.


ELKE BLODGETT email: eiblodge@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
12 Grantham Place
St. Albert, AB T8N 0W8
403 (458-3445); 403 (727-2395)

Cheryl L Litman on tue 15 apr 97

Since NCECA is about education I'd like to see all the pieces on exhibit
in every gallery have more than just the name of the artist, the title of
the piece and the word clay (duh!!!). How about a short statement about
the piece, the artist and the technique. Educate us!

I've only been to the last four conferences and this one lacked the
balance between functional/sculptural and wheel/handbuilding. There were
fewer activities altogether. The descriptions in the booklet many times
don't adequately reflect the content. I really loved all the previous
NCECA's except this one.

Linda McNary on tue 15 apr 97

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Well, I just had to get my 2 cents in on NCECA... from Paul Lewing, Seattle

Thank you Paul! I've been reading with great interest all the reactions to
NCECA and so far I appreciate your perspective most by a landslide. I'm
from Minneapolis and two years ago was my first NCECA. Because of job
commitments I could afford very little time to attend the actual conference
but I do know what a tremendous output in energy and time went into the
planning and execution of that event! And nothing ever goes as everyone
would like. But I, for one, had the time of my life in Las Vegas, playing
with and learning from great people and experiencing great events! My only
frustration was that it happened that all of my top choice events fell at
the same time, but that's life, I still had a great time! And hats off to
everyone-Minerva, Regina, Mark Burns, etc etc etc- who worked so hard to
give us a really great conference!!

Lisa or Ginny on tue 15 apr 97

Craig Fent wrote:
> So, next year, don't worry about where it is if you really want to go.

Craig: It wasn't the location that bothered me, it was the reports of the
outlandish behaviour, which I now understand to be "traditional" at
NCECA.

I imagine that it will cost a good bit to go to an NCECA, and I don't
want that money wasted. I'm not a stick-in-the-mud by any means; if I
had been at Vegas, I'd have spent some time at the Blackjack and Roulette
tables, but only after the conference was finished for the day, or during
sessions I wasn't interested in.

I am looking forward to meeting Clayart people, so I WILL eventually get
to NCECA!
--
Lisa Skeen
Living Tree Pottery
Greensboro, NC
YesIAmRU?
Email: lpskeen@nr.infi.net

Lisa or Ginny on tue 15 apr 97

Mark Richard Leach wrote:I am also a curator and now, as a representative
of the Mint Museum of Art, I am working with NCECA to establish the NCECA
Ceramic Collection at the Mint.

> Mark Richard Leach
> Curator of Twentieth Century Art
> Mint Museum of Art, Charlotte

So, Mark,
When will NCECA be coming to Charlotte?????
--
Lisa Skeen
Living Tree Pottery
Greensboro, NC
YesIAmRU?
Email: lpskeen@nr.infi.net

Paul and C2 on tue 15 apr 97

About the buses for the NCECA exhibitions, why can't we have shows that are
closer to the conference hotel? Like within walking distance or within the
conference hotel???

Caroline Cheng in Hong Kong, where everything is within walking distance....

Carol Durnford on thu 17 apr 97

I enjoyed myself during the one day that I attended which was
Thursday. I chose to go for one day only because it was cheaper than buying
tickets for $270 for me and my wife. She is not a ceramicist but an
assistant director of financial aid at this university and is not rabid
about ceramics other than she has good taste and enjoys the shows. She
found it disapponting that would have had to buy a full ticket because when
I go her conferences, I do most anything for a nominal extra charge which
includes meals and sometimes they have special things planned for spouses.
Yes, gang, her conferences are cheaper than ours and include meals. In
fact, they encourage people to bring their entire families.
Since it was our first vacation in five years, we drove around the
city and went to the Liberace Museum. What a kick.... Also found a place
to buy orchids. I brought home five despite that fact that it was freezing
COLD. We stayed at the Sahara for $45.00 a night and enjoyed walking to
almost every casino, and hotel, watched the outdoor shows of the Mirage and
Treasure Island and the overhead show on Fremont Street.
We enjoyed touring the free shows on Wednesday and enjoyed the Latin
American paintings of the Virgin de Guadeloupe which I just studied in Latin
American Art History. Since I am particularly interested in different
primitive approaches to art the other displays about the local native
americans were great. My only regret was that I couldn't visit Tom
Coleman's studio as I've admired his work for a long time.
On Thursday, we both circulated through the commercial, and
non-commercial exhibits. Was happy to see Yoshi Ikeda a former instructor
from Kansas State, and had a great group session with Steve Branfman about
his group studio experiences. I gleaned a few things from the ^6 glaze
talks - but mainly wanted to see if there was anything new with Lana
Wilson's glazes as I've been experimenting with them for sculptural work as
well as using glaze underglaze combinations in once fired techniques. I
also them in combinations with the Funky glazes Ralph posted on here a year
ago. I've had great results and will e-mail him personally.
No matter what people say about Las Vegas, I found it fascinating,
though I think it could be a little distracting for bitten by the gambling
virus. It is an American phenomenon and frankly part of the reason I went
is because in all of my travels I hadn't been there yet and I gleaned a lot
of interesting visual messages.

Dave Durnford
Box 2145
Missoula, MT 59806
durnford@selway.umt.edu

millie carpenter on thu 17 apr 97

To the clayart people who were able to go to NCECA from one who wasn't.

I have been eagerly awaiting the postings from you with the wonderful
insights that you gained, the discriptions of the demonstration of new
tecniques learned at the workshops, the new products, pearls of wisdom
gleaned in the lobby or at lunch durring casual conversation, the
discription of the one piece of work that set your soul singing....

by and large all I have heard is that LV is plastic and glitzy,
everything was spread out and there weren't enough buses, the desert is
beautiful, and theft is omni-present and devestating. (streaking is
optional)

Now that you have had time to catch up on your sleep, get over jet lag,
and skim the weeks' worth of mail, please describe the neat things you
saw (even in artspeak/psycho-babble) and learned.

Millie in Maryland where I am still as green with envy as the new spring
grass.

mcarpent@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us

Marget and Peter Lippincott on fri 18 apr 97

Folks:

Next year in Fort Worth Paul Soldner has promised me that he will turn
over a new leaf and debut his newfound interest in songwriting instead
of . . . He will be exposing his new ditty in public, but perhaps not
for the first time.
Peter Lippincott
The Mudpuppy in Arkansas

Eleanora Eden on sat 19 apr 97

Hi All,

I agree 100% with Vince's impressions of Las Vegas and of the
scatteredness and wierdness of the conference setting. While I don7t wish
aliens would destroy the place I did flee into the desert for afew days
camping at the end to cleanse myself.

Actually I only decided to attend because a great clay artist and Berkeley
comrade Maija Williams agreed to come meet me and take me camping in the
Mojave afterwards. Maija has been doing her one-of-a-kind coil-built
sculptures at the Potter's Studio in Berkeley for many years and now
manages the place. Her work is currently exhibited @ ACCI gallery in
Berkeley, both cone 10 sculpture and raku wall-pieces.

Maija has been travelling around southwest for many years and knows the
plants and rocks...we were parked where some dried mud had cracked and she
got a spoon and container and carefully took only top layer to try as a
glaze...I had hoped to see her do it...she would have these fascinating
glazes and I'd ask what it was and she'd say something like 'oh that's
route 58 east of Barstow'....pretty cool.

More later....

Eleanora


Eleanora Eden 802 869-2003
Paradise Hill
Bellows Falls, VT 05101 eden@maple.sover.net

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Mark Issenberg on tue 27 jan 98

Well I finally met Mel aka Melvin. The one thing I can truly say about
Mel is that he really loves to teach.He threw gobs of pots,T pots
,covered jars and every type of lid you could think of and more. He
started Fri and I think he is still throwing. I left Sun afternoon and he
was cranking out pots. Mel also did a cratique (spelling) Sun morn and it
was enjoyed by all.
Any way Mel and I talked about the Clay Art room that Mel has set
up and we that it would be a great idea that if you cant come to Texas
send a picture and we ( I ) will put them up so every body will be there.
If any one was a better idea let me know. If you want to send a photo
tape on your
name, address, and E mail adress so it can be seen from the front.
My adress is Mark Issenberg
7780 S.W. 118 st.
Miami Fla 33156 USA
Mark in Miami

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Mark Issenberg on thu 12 feb 98

Howdy all , I am getting some photos of clayart members that cant be in
Texas. If you cant be there and would like be there in spirit send me a
photo with your E mail adress and any other info and it will be on
exhibit in Mel s Clay art room.
Mark Issenberg
7780 SW 118 St
Miami Fla 33156

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Barbara Lewis on sat 21 mar 98

Dear All: These messages about NCECA are killing me! For the first time in
five years I won't be able to go -- and to think if I had gone I would
finally know someone -- if only by electronic mail. Anyway, I've decided to
take a week-long mold-making workshop at the Torpedo Factory, Alexandria, Va
next week. I can't wait for everyone to get back and tell us all what a
good time they had. Next year for sure! Barbara

WellSpring ClayWorks
5412 Well Spring Road
La Plata, MD 20646
(301) 932-3915

Mel Jacobson on thu 2 apr 98

the very best part of the clayart room was the wonderful
gathering of real people.
in my view, the computer, email, and clayart is a vehicle
for learning about people and ideas, but the clayart room is
an opportunity to meet the real person.
i do know, without question, that i felt very good when
flight 408 of northwest airlines left dallas/fort worth, and that
i had done a tiny bit to bring this group of people together.

and the reality that no matter what city in the united states
i visit......i will have a friend there.

mel/mn

p.s. it takes me almost a third of a year to get through having coffee
each day from a different clayart mug.
now i have a john eden, ron roy, liz willoughby, a mishy, and on and on.
and don't let him fool you..tony bob is the second best potter
in the clennell household............................sheila bob sue is the
best.
http://www.pclink.com/melpots

Vince Pitelka on thu 2 apr 98

Many good reports on NCECA already. It was a wonderful conference, more so
because I didn't anticipate that it would be. Pre-conference publicity was
not all it could be. And many thought that after last years Las Vegas
blowout this would be a very sedate conference. All involved in NCECA do
such a heroic job putting on these conferences, and I am so grateful to
them. But I wish I had received more extensive prior information about all
the exhibitions, etc. Also, as someone else mentioned, all the problems
with P.A. systems, slide projectors, and other amenities were really
appalling. A few technical problems here and there are par for the course,
but this was ridiculous. This was of course the responsible of the company
contracted to provide such services.

Few complaints about the job the NCECA folks did, but I am baffled that the
opening awards and presentations included absolutely no mention of Beatrice
Wood's recent passing. Also, I was disturbed that the Potters for Peace
were excluded from the exhibition hall, apparently because they are selling
pottery (one of their major fundraisers). They were banished to the
neighboring outlet mall. Other non-profit exhibitors were selling
tee-shirts, books, and other things, and the commercial exhibitors were
selling everything imaginable, so I do not understand. Seems that there
were complaints last year about the extent of their display and their sales.
But I would think that there could have been a compromise, rather than
complete exclusion from the exhibit hall. This bothered me quite a bit.

I spent most of my time at the Craft Center table in the exhibition hall,
schmoozing with people, and I think you can all understand how great it was
for me to be able to finally relate some GOOD NEWS about prospects at the
Craft Center. I didn't see any of the sessions except for the lecture and
demonstration on "Bonfire Pottery in the Carribean", presented by my good
friend Tricia Fay. This was a fine presentation, and the two potters Tricia
brought up from Santa Lucia gave an amazing demonstration. They used the
native Santa Lucian clay, which is mostly montmorillonite and temper, and
doesn't follow the rules that clay normally has to follow. Tricia had to
get an act of congress to get this clay into the country. The Department of
Agriculture confiscated it, because "We already have clay in this country.
We don't need to import it." Finally the US Geologic Survey intervened in
the nick of time, bless their souls. The Santa Lucian potters handbuilt at
lightening speed with this clay - large charcoal stoves, planters, etc.,
with no waiting time for the wares to stiffen, no hair-dryer, no propane
torch. Wow.

The exhibitions were excellent. I saw less than half of them, but what I
saw was great. Among the best were "Ceramics USA" (thanks to Dannon Rhudy),
"Within The Borders", "Heroes and Icons", and all the shows at University of
Dallas, which included one on Juan Quezeda, one on Maria/Julian Martinez and
four generations of decendants, one on Harding Black, one on graduates of
the university, one on the finalists in the American Ceramic Society
competition, and a rather remarkable national K-12 show. The latter put
many MFA thesis shows to shame. University of Dallas is to be commended for
such an extensive effort.

The Clayart room was a delight. I did not spend nearly as much time there
as I would have liked, due to responsibilities elsewhere. We really owe Mel
a lot for organizing this. Next year in Columbus we must do the same, and
this time I hope Clayart attendees can all share the cost.

Went out for excellent Mexican food twice with Clayarters - unlimited
guacamole - ahhhh . . . . heaven. On Friday night went with a group of
Clayarters to Billy Bob's Texas, world's largest honky-tonk - acres and
acres under one roof. Group included Mel Jacobsen, Linda Blossom, Kevin
Caufield and his dear wife Amy, Mark Issenberg, David McBeth, Jan Walker. I
wish you all could have seen Mel dancing with Linda Blossom (and others),
doing his thing in the midst of legions of line-dancing Fort Worth rednecks.
We were all proud of him.

Had decent Texas dry-smoked pork-ribs at Billy Bob's. By some miracle,
every time I got up to use the boy's room or get more beer (maybe there's a
connection??), more ribs would appear on my plate. Offered a few to others,
but otherwise ate them all. Too good to pass up. Food was otherwise
nothing to celebrate, but the pork ribs were excellent. And they had
bull-riding. We're not talkin' mechanical bulls. They had REAL BULL
RIDING. Linda Blossom and Amy paid their two bucks to get into the arena
and watch young cowboys subjecting themselves to unimaginable trauma.

You can all look forward to a compromising photograph of Mel, Kevin
Caufield, Mark, David, and me at Billy Bob's. If Linda Blossom holds true
to her promise (threat?), it will appear in CM or in the NCECA journal.
Perhaps it will even find its way on-line. I mean, if one is going to make
a spectacle of oneself, why not go all the way?
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

Linda Blossom on fri 3 apr 98

You bet I am going to send the photo of the cowboy potters to CM. But that
idea of putting it online is a great one. Anyone with a scanner that would
like to help???! You've got to see these guys on the bull!


Linda Blossom
2366 Slaterville Rd.
Ithaca, NY 14850
6075397912
www.artscape.com
blossom@lightlink.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Pitelka
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 8:19 AM
Subject: NCECA


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Many good reports on NCECA already. It was a wonderful conference, more so
because I didn't anticipate that it would be. Pre-conference publicity was
not all it could be. And many thought that after last years Las Vegas
blowout this would be a very sedate conference. All involved in NCECA do
such a heroic job putting on these conferences, and I am so grateful to
them. But I wish I had received more extensive prior information about all
the exhibitions, etc. Also, as someone else mentioned, all the problems
with P.A. systems, slide projectors, and other amenities were really
appalling. A few technical problems here and there are par for the course,
but this was ridiculous. This was of course the responsible of the company
contracted to provide such services.

Few complaints about the job the NCECA folks did, but I am baffled that the
opening awards and presentations included absolutely no mention of Beatrice
Wood's recent passing. Also, I was disturbed that the Potters for Peace
were excluded from the exhibition hall, apparently because they are selling
pottery (one of their major fundraisers). They were banished to the
neighboring outlet mall. Other non-profit exhibitors were selling
tee-shirts, books, and other things, and the commercial exhibitors were
selling everything imaginable, so I do not understand. Seems that there
were complaints last year about the extent of their display and their sales.
But I would think that there could have been a compromise, rather than
complete exclusion from the exhibit hall. This bothered me quite a bit.

I spent most of my time at the Craft Center table in the exhibition hall,
schmoozing with people, and I think you can all understand how great it was
for me to be able to finally relate some GOOD NEWS about prospects at the
Craft Center. I didn't see any of the sessions except for the lecture and
demonstration on "Bonfire Pottery in the Carribean", presented by my good
friend Tricia Fay. This was a fine presentation, and the two potters Tricia
brought up from Santa Lucia gave an amazing demonstration. They used the
native Santa Lucian clay, which is mostly montmorillonite and temper, and
doesn't follow the rules that clay normally has to follow. Tricia had to
get an act of congress to get this clay into the country. The Department of
Agriculture confiscated it, because "We already have clay in this country.
We don't need to import it." Finally the US Geologic Survey intervened in
the nick of time, bless their souls. The Santa Lucian potters handbuilt at
lightening speed with this clay - large charcoal stoves, planters, etc.,
with no waiting time for the wares to stiffen, no hair-dryer, no propane
torch. Wow.

The exhibitions were excellent. I saw less than half of them, but what I
saw was great. Among the best were "Ceramics USA" (thanks to Dannon Rhudy),
"Within The Borders", "Heroes and Icons", and all the shows at University of
Dallas, which included one on Juan Quezeda, one on Maria/Julian Martinez and
four generations of decendants, one on Harding Black, one on graduates of
the university, one on the finalists in the American Ceramic Society
competition, and a rather remarkable national K-12 show. The latter put
many MFA thesis shows to shame. University of Dallas is to be commended for
such an extensive effort.

The Clayart room was a delight. I did not spend nearly as much time there
as I would have liked, due to responsibilities elsewhere. We really owe Mel
a lot for organizing this. Next year in Columbus we must do the same, and
this time I hope Clayart attendees can all share the cost.

Went out for excellent Mexican food twice with Clayarters - unlimited
guacamole - ahhhh . . . . heaven. On Friday night went with a group of
Clayarters to Billy Bob's Texas, world's largest honky-tonk - acres and
acres under one roof. Group included Mel Jacobsen, Linda Blossom, Kevin
Caufield and his dear wife Amy, Mark Issenberg, David McBeth, Jan Walker. I
wish you all could have seen Mel dancing with Linda Blossom (and others),
doing his thing in the midst of legions of line-dancing Fort Worth rednecks.
We were all proud of him.

Had decent Texas dry-smoked pork-ribs at Billy Bob's. By some miracle,
every time I got up to use the boy's room or get more beer (maybe there's a
connection??), more ribs would appear on my plate. Offered a few to others,
but otherwise ate them all. Too good to pass up. Food was otherwise
nothing to celebrate, but the pork ribs were excellent. And they had
bull-riding. We're not talkin' mechanical bulls. They had REAL BULL
RIDING. Linda Blossom and Amy paid their two bucks to get into the arena
and watch young cowboys subjecting themselves to unimaginable trauma.

You can all look forward to a compromising photograph of Mel, Kevin
Caufield, Mark, David, and me at Billy Bob's. If Linda Blossom holds true
to her promise (threat?), it will appear in CM or in the NCECA journal.
Perhaps it will even find its way on-line. I mean, if one is going to make
a spectacle of oneself, why not go all the way?
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

Louis Katz on fri 3 apr 98

Thanks for your comments Vince. I will forward your concerns to the
board for the meeting in May. I will try to respond to your concerns the
best I can here.

>But I wish I had received more extensive prior information about all
the exhibitions, etc.
Me too. There were at least forty exhibitions. Most had no official
connection to NCECA. I would have liked some maps, but was glad that I
didn't have to make them. It would have been a lot of work. <

>Also, as someone else mentioned, all the problems
with P.A. systems, slide projectors, and other amenities were really
appalling. A few technical problems here and there are par for the
course,
but this was ridiculous. This was of course the responsible of the
company
contracted to provide such services.<

I could use the help of a few individuals to help make sure that slide
projectors are set up so that you can see the slides and that they are
working properly in Columbus. This is just to run around to a bunch or
rooms a couple of times each day (once early before the first session
starts) to make sure things are working correctly.


>Few complaints about the job the NCECA folks did, but I am baffled that
the
opening awards and presentations included absolutely no mention of
Beatrice
Wood's recent passing. <

This did not pass by the boards notice either. A short talk was given by
Garth Clark at the First Memeber Business Meeting.

>Also, I was disturbed that the Potters for Peace
were excluded from the exhibition hall, apparently because they are
selling
pottery (one of their major fundraisers). <

Last year we had some complaints from our commercial exhibitors (who pay
a hefty price for their spots) that the nonprofits were affecting their
business. We tried to clear this up with guidelines of what could and
could not be done with a nonprofit booth, but we apparently were not
clear enough or did not get the word out well enough.

My understanding of what took place, and I will know more in May is that
Potters for Peace was given some options, but that the commercial spots
were already taken, and they decided not to take a nonprofit spot within
the restricted sales policy we had set.

This is a sticky issue. The conference recieves much support from
commercial exhibitor. I am sure it will get significant attention at the
board meeting.

Thanks for your comments. I am looking forward to Columbus. NCECA has a
lot of resources to draw from for this conference and I think it will be
great.
Dan Hammet and others did a magnificent job, it was a great conference.

Louis
lkatz@falcon.tamucc.edu

Things to remember:
1. It is O.K. to nominate someone for a board position from the floor
2. Proposals for the next conference are due May 1
3. Emerging Talent Nominations are coming up
4. Breakout group proposals are due in the Fall

Don't forget to thank our list moderators every chance you get.
Thanks

OWL POTTER on fri 3 apr 98

A big thank you to all who went to NCECA and reported back to us unfortunates
who weren't able to attend this year.

It used to be my understanding that the conferences and workshops, etc were
geared towards the teaching profession and as a non-teaching, full time studio
potter, I had previously thought that NCECA had little to offer me. But, I am
seriously changing my mind and am planning to take in the conference next
year.

Carolynn Palmer, Somerset Center, Michigan

Craig Fulladosa on fri 3 apr 98

I am Craig Fulladosa, otherwise known as the Clayman on the internet.
I went to the NCECA conference recently and would like to know if anyone
is interested in receiving some of the digital pics I took with my new
Sony-Mavica camera?
Ciao!
Craig

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DIANA PANCIOLI, ASSOC. PROF. on sat 4 apr 98

A public thanks to Andrea who ran the slides and lights on Friday
afternoon at the Ramada. She did great!

Thanks,

Diana

Mark Issenberg on sat 4 apr 98

Well i am sitting here thinking about the incredible time i had in Texas.
I guess it started with eating those wonderfull juicy,big,gooey ,all you
could eat ribs at Riskys for $8.00 with Cara and Veronica.Downtown Forth
Worth was great, having lots of stuff to look at with in walking
distance.
I also enjoy beer and finding The Flying Saucer which had every
beer i could think of on tap was a plus.
The ceramic shows were super, and the Sid Richardson collection
of western art was my favorite. Sid had collected a lot of Remingtons and
Russells, plus there were some great saddles dripping with silver, i hope
other clay people went in there. The prints in all the rooms in the
Worthington were copys from the Sid Richardson collection.
Having the Clayart room was probably the high light of all and
having our own mug exchange was super. I got a Ron Roy mug. Thank-you
Kathleen for doing so much work and thank-you Mel, what a GREAT idea.
Some one showed me a pen that was done with bamboo, she had
broken a BIC and jammed the writing part into the open end of the bamboo
,so if you got a piece of the bamboo and didnt want to make a brush make
a pen
WOW sure had fun
Mark in Miami ashpots@juno.com


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jetharrs@pacific.telebyte.net on sat 4 apr 98

I've spent the week mulling over NCECA and my experience there--

I agree with most of the comments, but given the constraints of place and
human nature, I doubt if there will ever be a perfect conference. Doesn't
mean you have to quit trying, though.

I looked at so much stuff, tried to absorb so much data, I was in overload
by the time I climbed onto my plane. So, I retreated to my studio, tired
and happy, to glorious solitude to recover. And the Clayart Room--what can
I say besides, Thanks, Mel. Would have loved to have spent more time
there.

In retrospect, the Bank One was probably the most rewarding exhibit because
while we were there, we were encouraged to feel the pieces, c-a-r-e-fully
lift the lids and peer inside and tilt flat pieces for better photos.
Touch adds so much information to the understanding of a piece! (as
opposed to a few of the other displays we saw---a-hem)

I so much apprecieated the fact that the buses covered all the displays, as
opposed to the Las Vegas roulette bus routes. bah da bam

The Mexican work on display in the library was another winner.
Unfortunately, we could find very little information about it.

Which brings up another thing--I thought Wendy Rosen's condensed marketing
meeting was helpful--at least it was from my standpoint. It's nice to be
able to be a tenured professor of ceramics with that tidy check coming in
every month and a studio facility to work in. (tone note here--this is
meant to be a gentle comment, guys--not flame bait) But, for the rest of
us who would like to see a little profit--especially after taking a quick
look at my income tax figures--a lot of her perspective from the business
side gave a bit more balance to the picture. Some of it was relevant to my
situation, some of it wasn't. That's the whole idea, though, to create a
forum for ideas to flow, then pick your own track to follow.

Which brings up yet another thing in my stream-of-ideas semi-rant here:
While in one exhibit, we were talking to a couple of non-artists who were
very upset that they couldn't find anybody who could tell them about works
for sale. And they really wanted to buy a couple of pieces.
Unfortunately, we couldn't help them either. If there had been a price
list, a person who could have at least taken the names of prospective
buyers, or someone who could be a contact person, those artists might have
made a sale and found a future collector of their work. Marketing isn't a
bad word.

Back to the studio
Jeanette in Poulsbo WA

Vince Pitelka on sat 4 apr 98

>It used to be my understanding that the conferences and workshops, etc were
>geared towards the teaching profession and as a non-teaching, full time studio
>potter, I had previously thought that NCECA had little to offer me. But, I am
>seriously changing my mind and am planning to take in the conference next
>year.

As an academic who attends NCECA religiously, I would have to say that the
conference is a WHOLE LOT more interesting as a result of all the
non-academics who attend and participate. Education, as in the National
Council on Education in the Ceramic Arts, does not have to imply academic
affiliation. Education is what moves us forward, in our private studios, in
our cooperative ventures, in our municipal art centers, etc. Vocation or
avocation, if you love clay, you belong at NCECA.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

sandra m benscoter on sun 5 apr 98

Hi Jeanette!

You must have lucked out!!! When I gently lifted a tea pot lid at the
Bank One exhibit, I was sternly told not to touch the work!!!! Later, I
overheard her reprimanding several other people for touching work, also.
I can understand their point: not everyone attending the exhibit may be
as careful as you and I may be.

Sande

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Cheryl L Litman on sun 5 apr 98

The topical discussion on teaching outside of academia was attended by
about 30 people most of whom stayed for the hour and a half so I guess
they got something valuable from the discussion. My original intent was
for those of us teaching from home studios or small rental spaces to
discuss problems and solutions. Instead we spent most of the time on
large scale operations. Some of the same problems and a whole lot of
new ones as well. I didn't take notes so I can only hope I remember the
most important points which were made. So in no particular order...

*Host parties in your studio - birthday parties where they make whatever
and decorate with slip. You bisque and clear glaze and then the customer
picks up later. Another person invites professionals in for meet the
artist parties and has work for sale.

*Host workshops to bring in extra money

*Small scale studios need lots of extra storage space for student work.
Also most students want at least one extra time slot of open studio time
for practice.

*Some people have an all inclusive price but most charge extra for clay
(some give the first bag free), most charge extra for firings, some
include "x" amount of clay firing for free. Fees are usually charged on
a cubic inch per firing basis but a few charge per pound of bone dry
weight. One person allows people to take a formal class up to three
times before they need to purchase space by "contract". She has various
contracts available - 20 hours in 3 months, 30 hours in three month, etc.
Prices for classes varied widely according to the region and I didn't
write down numbers.

*Some provide tools and some have the students purchase a tool kit - less
lost tools this way.

*In a large scale operation additional staff is needed to make glazes,
handle the kilns and perhaps even to keep track of paperwork. Some hire
high school students, some their own students, some offer discounts and
trade services for classes although one person cautioned that this could
lead to problems if the scope and quality of the work isn't agreed upon
by both parties.

*One person attracts new students by going through the local
community/adult education program.

*girl scout ceramics badges are popular

I wish I had written more down but this is all I remember.

Cheryl Litman
Somerset, NJ
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Timothy Dean Malm on sun 5 apr 98

My clayart friend Paul Lewing who is usually my NCECA roommate dropped by
for a visit yesterday and told me how enjoyable the Clayart room was at
NCECA. It sounds to me like the conference this year was really worth
being at.Paul told me there was a lot of walking between locations for
events which would have been very challenging for me. Yesterday, I
achieved one of my Spring goals, to walk around the block I live on
without stopping. It took me about twenty minutes to do but it did get
done. I felt a great sense of achievement.Considering that as recently as
October,I couldn't even stand up without assistance.I trust that by next
year I'll be back to NCECA.
Sincerely,Tim Malm

marg on fri 10 apr 98

Hello to the list,

To all those who attended the Clayart room at NCECA, I am sorry I didn't
get to attend the big gettogether. I did, however, drop by a mug (the
majolica one with the fishes). Whoever got it, enjoy. I did get a plate
from David Hendley with the signature "c sir 97". Can I ask who this is?

As for the conference, I believe it to be the best organized I have
attended. Yes, there were the techno-gliches (as usual), but they were
addressed. And the distance between hotels interfered with participation
in some cases. But, I believe each year improvements are implemented as
a result of "learning from our mistakes". So kudos to all who did the
organizing and participating!

From a lurker to the list

Marg (in Baton Rouge)

Craig Fulladosa on tue 14 apr 98

I am very busy with work right now , teaching high schhool ceramics, but
I am still planning on sending photos of nceca show to all interested
individuals. I prefer to use email at clayman@qnet.com or
craigfull@earthlink.net. I have over 200 pics of local shows and
exhibits.I shot the Dallas Bus Tour on Sat. and the Nuestra Tierra, Bank
One, and the Modern Show.Plus a few wild cups at the cup sale.

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Janet Harper on fri 18 dec 98

Are you going to NCECA in March? I have never been but am wondering if I am
missing something by not going. Is it mainly for educators or would it be
interesting to a studio potter? I would be interested in any input you might
have. Thanks!
Janet

Lee Marshall on sat 19 dec 98

I went to the NCECA conference in Vegas. It was summer camp for adults who
happen to be potters. The gods talk to you! (ie soldner, reich, pipenburg,etc
etc) You are soaked in clay for 4 days. From clayart breakfasts to late
evenings in the bars. The NCECA sponsored programs are just the excuse for all
the other great thing that happen. And the NCECA sponsored programs are
wonderful! GO! GO! GO! you will be inspired for years.
Lee marshall
lmarsh1220@aol.com

Louis Katz on sat 19 dec 98

Hi Janet,
I am on the board of NCECA, and I am hoping that someone else will also answer.
NCECA is a great conference for everyone interested in clay. Many of my students
who have attended have enjoyed it thoroughly even though the majority of their
work is in other media.
I hope you visit our site on the web. There is a program, and other information.
Our URL is http://nceca.net
Louis

Janet Harper wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Are you going to NCECA in March? I have never been but am wondering if I am
> missing something by not going. Is it mainly for educators or would it be
> interesting to a studio potter? I would be interested in any input you might
> have. Thanks!
> Janet

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Vince Pitelka on sat 19 dec 98

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Are you going to NCECA in March? I have never been but am wondering if I am
>missing something by not going. Is it mainly for educators or would it be
>interesting to a studio potter? I would be interested in any input you might
>have. Thanks!

NCECA has changed a lot over the years, in very positive ways. It used to
be almost entirely for academics, but thankfully the national and
international communities of studio pottes have become more involved. I
have spoken to many independent studio artists who have attended NCECA, and
uniformly they comment on what an incredible experience it is, charged with
valuable information and aesthetic inspiration. I cannot imagine another
forum where you can meet so many like-minded people, examine (and often
sample) commercial products, watch demonstrations, attend a multitude of
lectures and panel discussions. The four days at NCECA are always packed
with productive activity. When I return to the studio and classroom I
always feel like I have been away for two weeks.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

mel jacobson on sun 20 dec 98

if you do not go to nceca you cannot hang out in the clayart
room...meet great friends, exchange a mug....talk to nils, vince, ron roy,
dannon and about 200 other clayarters an hour.
you will not be able to listen to feriz delkic` go on about firing
or taste
alice's cooking (she is doing a reception for all of us.)
you will not be able to step next door and meet howard axner in his
hospitality room ( he has decided to get in on the action of getting
folks together. (he is truely a nice guy))
i am sure that ruth butler and bill jones from cm will join us.
and many other surprises.
mel./ mn
the clayart room, a place for `all` people to gather, meet, and smile
alot. (p.s. there will be a great deal of `loud talk, and laughing`.
as it should be.

http://www.pclink.com/melpots

Rick Sherman on mon 21 dec 98

>----------------------------Original message----------------------
>Are you going to NCECA in March? I have never been but am wondering if I am mi

--------------------------

It is one of the best deals you can get for the cost. Great programs
and demonstration, lots of vendors to meet, good ideas floating around,
wonderful exhibitis, the Glaze and Clay Doctors, a tour of the town,
the chance to try out new restaurants, and - above all - the opportunty
to meet other Clayarters! You will find out what we REALLY like.
[exept for mel. he uses a double.]

Rick Sherman
San Jose, CA USofA
sherman@ricochet.net

Geoff Walker on mon 21 dec 98

Mel!

We can't all travel half way around the world for these events. This
list is an international forum, you know. (Hugs .........)

I KNOW you will all have a wonderful time, and although not envious (did
I say THAT!!!???), there are many of us who look forward to hearing some
snippets from you and our other clay mates.

To ALL on the list .... My wish is for each and every one of you to
enjoy the delights of a peaceful, loving Christmas ... and may '99 bring
a stir of DRIVEN (com)PASSION in EVERYTHING you do. Think only GOOD of
others ...

.... with clay's magic,

Geoff.

http://www.cronulla-pot.com.au

Cynthia Spencer on tue 22 dec 98

I say ditto to all the glowing comments about NCECA. It's a bit of a good
old fashioned big tent clay REVIVAL, where one goes home feeling like
CLAY WILL SAVE THE WORLD!

My one teensy weensy (possibly a chip on my shoulder) bristle with NCECA
is the many times one gets asked, "where did you study" as the
conversation opener. As one who doesn't have a pedigree, it can be
embarrassing. I know that this is to lend context to the types of work I
might possibly be making due to with whom I have studied. And, I'm a big
enough girl to feel good about where I am in my clay career, but after
being asked the umpteenth time . . . Maybe a better opening line is
"What cone?, or How do you fire?"

By all means, GO and ENJOY!!!

Cynthia

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541-753-4606
Corvallis, OR

Dannon Rhudy on wed 23 dec 98


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I say ditto to all the glowing comments about NCECA. It's a bit of a good
>old fashioned big tent clay REVIVAL,......
>is the many times one gets asked, "where did you study" .....
...................

It should NOT be embarrassing - there are many self-taught potters/ceramists/
artists/whatever. MANY. Perfectly good company to be in.
But people won't change what they
ask, so think of an answer that makes you more comfortable.

Say you're home-schooled.

Say you're self-taught, like Richard Aerni.

Say you are from a four-generation family of potters.
(They don't need to know that you're the FIRST of the
expected four generations....).

Be inventive. Most of all, be comfortable and unintimidated.

Dannon Rhudy
potter@koyote.com

Sam Cuttell on wed 23 dec 98

Cynthia Spencer wrote:

> My one teensy weensy (possibly a chip on my shoulder) bristle with NCECA
> is the many times one gets asked, "where did you study" as the
> conversation opener. As one who doesn't have a pedigree, it can be
> embarrassing.

My standard answer to that one is UHK (university of hard knocks). You
should see the looks on their faces as they try unravel that one (hehehehe).

I am planning on attending NCECA just to visit the clayart room and all the
vendors. To me, the vendors (other than the people one meets) are the best
part. Good, solid information; and the opportunity to grab a passing body
and ask "have you used so and so's product? how does it compare to brand
X". I did this in Vegas, and when I got home, bought a Bailey slab roller
based on the vendors knowledge as well as the glowing, positive, unbiased
thoughts of those wandering through.

I'll (hopefully) see you in mel's room :-)


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Melbourne, Ontario
SW Ontario CANADA
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scuttell@odyssey.on.ca

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods.
Cats have never forgotten this."

Paul Lewing on fri 25 dec 98

Dannon Rhudy wrote:

>
> Say you're home-schooled.
>
> Say you're self-taught, like Richard Aerni.
>
> Say you are from a four-generation family of potters.
> (They don't need to know that you're the FIRST of the
> expected four generations....).
>

Or tell them you're autodidactic, so you didn't need a teacher like
they did. And just to save you looking it up, autodidactic means
self-taught. But you knew that -you're an autodidact!

Merry, merry!
Paul Lewing in Seattle, sho should be visiting family in Montana, but
instead is sitting home with a walking cast on his foot- bone spurs on
the heel. Bummer!

Hawkdancing on wed 10 mar 99

Hi,
Just realized I won't be that far from Columbus on 3/18. Where can I
find out (website/phone# ) what is happening at NCECA on a specific day and
can I attend for just that day?

thanks
Nels
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Kip Whelan on thu 11 mar 99

This months issue of Ceramic Monthly has done an excellent job of covering
the conference. It is in the back of the issue. Describes each days
activities, what the galleries are showing and maps of where the galleries
are located. Hope Ceramics Monthly does this every year.

> ----------
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> Reply To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:19 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
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>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi,
> Just realized I won't be that far from Columbus on 3/18. Where can I
> find out (website/phone# ) what is happening at NCECA on a specific day
> and
> can I attend for just that day?
>
> thanks
> Nels
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Morgan Britt on fri 12 mar 99

Can anyone fill us in? Just wondering when the Clayart room will be
open and exactly where. We're coming in Tuesday evening and would like
to come on over.

Thanks,
Morgan

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Karen Gringhuis on fri 12 mar 99

Read the back pages of ceramics monthly for March.

mel jacobson on mon 22 mar 99

what is clayart?
in many ways i found a great deal about clayart at nceca.
it is a woman that lives on a mountain in alabama........makes her
living with clay........she is a potter.
no mfa
no pedigree
a potter.
she found many friends at nceca, in the clayart room. she came alone.
went home not alone........ever again.
she belonged.
many people found warm friends.
they all belonged.
good men and women that love craft.
love skill.
want to get better at what they love to do.
they cannot wait for 2000.
denver.
and more and more friends to be a part of being
clay people....
no stars
just clay people.
well, one star.
she comes from alabama.
would not trade her for peter v., not even if you added two draft choices.

mel.mn
and that wonderful belgian from wisconsin is a star.
ate his chocolate. hugged carla.
alice fed us til we popped.
and i only had one martini.
(well, maybe two.) keith from ohio is my new `best friend`.
and we so missed nils.
but, he had other things that needed attention.
and the over one hundred mugs on one table was all of us..............just
all of us.
what diversity. no good ones, no bad ones, just us.


http://www.pclink.com/melpots

Joyce Lee on thu 8 jul 99

I don't want to sound priggish nor to offend any of us who speak of
NCECA as just that, NCECA. However, we might not feel the need to more
or less apologize for the fact that NCECA seems to have an "educational"
emphasis if we but stopped to recall what the initials NCECA stand for:

National Council on Education for the Ceramic Arts

Works for me. I, for one, am pleased that the Council serves the studio
potter to the extent that it does. Makes me happy.

Joyce
In the Mojave ready to phone clayarter, Valice, who is visiting in the
Mojave and is going to come out so that we can meet... wish the studio
were clean ... wish we'd had a little breather between our non-stop
company the past few weeks so there'd be something wonderful to eat left
in my cupboards. Wish I had more time ... Glad that Sylvia and troop
are coming to help me shovel the house out, and once again pass any
Board of Health inspections that may be looming ....

Joyce Lee on wed 11 aug 99

Jeri,

I love NCECA. The one time I attended I ranked below the minus level in
clay understanding. I still learned so much, and adored the aura of
enthusiasm that was everywhere! I think I fell in love with potters
there in Vegas, before I even understood that my true love was clay. And
we didn't even have a clayart room. That's how I became the world's
oldest potter groupie. If all goes well, my plans are in process now for
going to Denver for the whole week. I certainly hope to see you there.

Joyce
In the Mojave actually wordless, for once, at the response to my
"whininess" post. What a clever group is lurking out there! Come on in.
We'll love you. Your vignettes were great.

Louis H.. Katz on sun 19 sep 99

Dear Clayarters,
Due to a change in our server architecture if you had any internal links
in the NCECA website they probably do not work. The main page of NCECA
remains unchanged, http://nceca.net.
Louis

Kit Shannon on wed 24 nov 99

Can someone tell me what is the schedule for NCECA.
I'm making my travel plans now, and I'm not sure what
days would be good to travel down.
I've never been before so I'm not sure if it would be good
to arrive a few days earlier or what.
any suggestions and advice would be great.

Thanks
Kit

carri dolan on thu 25 nov 99

we got there the day before last yr...it was really
nice to kind of get settled before the total immersion
into the world of clay...There is a ton of stuff to do
in Colorado. you wont be bored

--- Kit Shannon wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> Can someone tell me what is the schedule for NCECA.
> I'm making my travel plans now, and I'm not sure
> what
> days would be good to travel down.
> I've never been before so I'm not sure if it would
> be good
> to arrive a few days earlier or what.
> any suggestions and advice would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Kit
>

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Marcia Selsor on thu 25 nov 99

NCECA dates are March 22-25. It is good to be there on Wed. because
there are usually shuttle buses to all the exhibitions in town. The
program starts Wed. evening. There is always too much going on at the
same time.
Sat afternoon it ends. Many stay over for Sat. night because of plane
ticket prices.
Marcia Selsor
in Billings, Montana

Kit Shannon wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Can someone tell me what is the schedule for NCECA.
> I'm making my travel plans now, and I'm not sure what
> days would be good to travel down.
> I've never been before so I'm not sure if it would be good
> to arrive a few days earlier or what.
> any suggestions and advice would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Kit

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Gayle Bair on sat 27 nov 99

dear Kit,
If you have transportation I would highly recommend going a
few days early. There are numerous fabulous places to visit
on the front range on CO all within hours (or less) of Denver.
If you are interested in doing this let me know and I will give you
some ideas.
Gayle Bair
gaylebair@earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU]On Behalf Of
Kit Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 6:02 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: NCECA


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Can someone tell me what is the schedule for NCECA.
I'm making my travel plans now, and I'm not sure what
days would be good to travel down.
I've never been before so I'm not sure if it would be good
to arrive a few days earlier or what.
any suggestions and advice would be great.

Thanks
Kit

Cindy Strnad on sun 28 nov 99

Hello, All

I'm interested in attending NCECA, and would like to share a room with as
many other ladies as the hotel will allow (four, I expect), as I'm cheap.
It would need to be a non-smoking room. I live in SD, and will drive,
so I can provide a little bit of transportation around town but not much, as
I have a mini-truck suitable for three (small people) at most. Of course, we
can make two trips. If you are (or think you may be) interested, e-mail me
at earthenv@gwtc.net . Also, any local potter who might like to ride out
together would be welcome.

Thanks,

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
Custer, SD

Liz Willoughby on mon 29 nov 99

Well, the rush is beginning about NCECA. I can feel it. Haven't been
to Denver since I was four years old, and unbelievable as it might
sound I still remember very much about that time and place in my life.

So, I want to congratulate Rodger Lang who has provided such a
wonderful map of central Denver, on the NCECA WEB SITE.
http://www.nceca.net On the map, are lots of hotels in the central
core area, around the conference hotel Adam's Mark, looks like a nice
area. Galleries, shops, and lots of restaurants close by.

So does any body out there really know what that downtown core area
is like, i.e., is it a fairly safe city to walk around in? Looks like
it is, but just curious. Seems like so many cities have very
concentrated areas of slums because, . . . everyone has moved to the
suburbs, and of course that is usually where all the malls are. Just
curious. You can't really see everything on a map.

Liz
Liz Willoughby
R.R. #1
2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
Grafton, Ontario
K0k 2G0
Canada

e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net

Cindy Strnad on tue 30 nov 99

Liz,

The downtown core of Denver is very nice, in my opinion, but I wouldn't
likely know if I *was* in danger. You're not likely to be walking around
alone, at any rate. Not with all the CLAYART people there. :)

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
Custer, SD

Andi Cody on tue 30 nov 99

Although I haven't walked around downtown Denver extensively for a few
years, I grew up in Denver and still visit family there. I'm sure, like
all large cities, there are areas that you might want to avoid, and others
where therea re no problems. The 16th Street Mall was the "main drag" of
downtown when I lived there in the 70s and is now set up as a strictly
pedestrian thoroughfare. Larimer Square and the lower downtown area (LoDo)
are also great places to check out, great revitalization of a former slum,
lots of shops and small businesses. Be sure to check out the (many)
microbreweries, Rock Bottom, Breckenridge, Tabernash, and others whose
names I can't remember.

Andi in San Diego (wish I could go to NCECA too)...

At 02:51 PM 11/29/1999 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Well, the rush is beginning about NCECA. I can feel it. Haven't been
>to Denver since I was four years old, and unbelievable as it might
>sound I still remember very much about that time and place in my life.
>
>So, I want to congratulate Rodger Lang who has provided such a
>wonderful map of central Denver, on the NCECA WEB SITE.
>http://www.nceca.net On the map, are lots of hotels in the central
>core area, around the conference hotel Adam's Mark, looks like a nice
>area. Galleries, shops, and lots of restaurants close by.
>
>So does any body out there really know what that downtown core area
>is like, i.e., is it a fairly safe city to walk around in? Looks like
>it is, but just curious. Seems like so many cities have very
>concentrated areas of slums because, . . . everyone has moved to the
>suburbs, and of course that is usually where all the malls are. Just
>curious. You can't really see everything on a map.
>
>Liz
>Liz Willoughby
>R.R. #1
>2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
>Grafton, Ontario
>K0k 2G0
>Canada
>
>e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net
>

Louis H.. Katz on tue 11 jan 00

Hi Y'all,

I will be out of town for the next week. Offline also. The NCECA website is up w
lists of shows, bus schedules, and some other tidbits as well as a link to Roger
Lang's site on Denver. The NCECA site is at:
http://nceca.net

See you when I return to Cyberland.
Louis

Kent / Pat on thu 13 jan 00

Hi Folks

Denver is a GREAT place for the nceca conference. If you have questions
about different the different places to see, just ask. I don't know all but
I can give a good set of opinions and even give a few more.

Just an offering from a resident of the fair metro area. 8-)

Pat Porter
Rare Earth Pottery
pporter@4dv.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis H.. Katz"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:01 AM
Subject: NCECA


> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi Y'all,
>
> I will be out of town for the next week. Offline also. The NCECA website
is up w
> lists of shows, bus schedules, and some other tidbits as well as a link to
Roger
> Lang's site on Denver. The NCECA site is at:
> http://nceca.net
>
> See you when I return to Cyberland.
> Louis
>

Russel Fouts on mon 17 jan 00


Pat,

Thanks a lot for the info. How about good, really cheap restaurants for
potters on budgets? And Enzo's asking me to bring him back a T-shirt with
reference to the "Insubmersible" Molly Brown. Fortunately I know who he's
talking about. ;-)

Russel

Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
Http://www.mypots.com
http://www.Japan-Net.ne.jp/~iwcat

James L Bowen on wed 19 jan 00

-------------------
There are several on Quebec st. near the old airport. Most have deteriorated=
in
quality since its closure but the Rennaissance is still good but expensive.
Also the Hampden is fine but always seems full. My favorite for price and
service in that area is the Drury a little east on Peoria I think. Also some=
new
ones closer to Chambers road near the Holiday Inn. Didn=22t pay attention to=
their
names though.

Jean Stephenson on thu 24 feb 00

-------------------
Louis,
I am unable to attend the conference this year, but I am interested in =
getting
the journal, etc. I seem to remember that there was a special category for
membership if you could not attend the conference. I didn't see anything =
like
that on the nceca web site. Any information would be appreciated. =
Thanks=21
Jean

Louis H.. Katz on fri 25 feb 00

Hi Jean,
If you go to the membership page there is a membership form in Adobe Acrobat
format (PDF) that can be downloaded.
If that doesn't work call 1 (800) 99 nceca and ask Reggie.
I have also attached a copy here.
Louis


Jean Stephenson wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> Louis,
> I am unable to attend the conference this year, but I am interested in getting
> the journal, etc. I seem to remember that there was a special category for
> membership if you could not attend the conference. I didn't see anything like
> that on the nceca web site. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks!
> Jean

Maggie Woodhead on sun 5 mar 00

Kia Ora,
Can anyone tell me an e-mail address I can go to for
reassurance that my registration has been accepted for NCECA?

----Best Wishes Maggie----
maggiew@clear.net.nz

Joe Tate on thu 16 mar 00

I just heard that Axner will be having a hospitality suite at tha Adams Mark.
They will have authors who will be doing book signings such as Tom Coleman,
Nils Lou, Jack Troy,Jeff Zamek,Rosette Gault,Fred Olsen, Richard Zakin,Robin
Hopper Don Davis, Susan Peterson, Paul Soldner, Frank Giogini Steve Branfman,
Kathy Triplett and John Conrad. They will also have short workshops such as
Jolly Jigger, York Kickwheel, Orton Kiln Controller, Waxline with Tzadi,
Wheel Throwing w/ Nils Lou INSIGHTw Tony Hansen , ITC w/ Mel Jacobson, Paper
Clay w Rosette Gault, Leaching of Metals from Glaze w/ John Hesselberth.
Times will be posted at the show. Have a GREAT SHOW.

Joe Tate

rickmahaffey on mon 27 mar 00

Hello Clayarters,

Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
this was asked so many people.

Any thoughts?

Rick Mahaffey
Tacoma Community College
Tacoma Washington, USA

Joyce Lee on mon 27 mar 00

I did scribble notes daily of highlights and lowlights, if any, so will
post a few now and then if okay with our moderators. First day for me
was a people day. I was overwhelmed by sheer number of clayarters I met
in the Clayart room.... some were EXACTLY as I pictured; some were total
surprises; loved meeting the self-described "lurkers" (seemed like
hundreds of them). Some Clayarters brought portfolios of their work.
What a perfect idea! So impressive. It was discombobulating to be
talking with new friends who appeared to be such "regular" people, and
then be presented with such stimulating, exciting examples of their
incredibly professional and original works! I spent much of that first
day bouncing from feelings of great pride to depths of humility from
being in such company. One tale: I was sitting with my new lovely friend
Joanne V. from Colorado eating Russell's chocoates in the midst of
dozens of Clayarters stopping to chat, hug etc. There were some
unbelievable tiles spread on the table before us. I kept asking if
anybody knew what artist had created these mind-boggling tiles. Turned
out they were Joanne's, of course, my new unobtrusive bud. I had
difficulty connecting such marvelous artistry with anyone who would be a
friend of mine....although lovely, she didn't even glow in the dark, not
once!... Funniest thing that happened on that first day for me: Seeing
Dave F., engineer and potter, whom I did not know, dressed in a grand
sportcoat, tie and carrying a briefcase, appearing very regal, indeed
... his attire wasn't humorous, quite the contrary, but the reaction of
each of us (including mine, shamefully) was to isolate him slightly,
thinking I suppose that he was "the man" representing some large company
or other, not a Clayarter to be hugged and admired and included in the
crush. Turns out that Dave had chosen to join Mel the Elegant in
"dressing up" for the occasion and was thoroughly enjoying our
distancing reactions. A bunch of us brandnewbestfriends invited him to
lunch later, which was lucky for me, for now I have a new pal out there
in the clay world to admire and recall with fondness. More later...my
mind is departing on the next shuttle.

Joyce
In the Mojave saying hello to Maggie's husband down under...and trying
to adjust to one lone pugnacious raven raucousing outside my
window...missing that other world, but needing the solitude to download
some of my overload.

Teres Whitney on mon 27 mar 00

Same as "what's your major?", "what's your sign?", "What is your trade?",
What do you do for a living?". It is a conversation starter. I think the
actual answer only has impact if a person doesn't like functional people or
visa versa, otherwise it is a pivotal bases for continuing conversation.
After all,lots of traditional introductions are already answered by your
presence at the event.
Teres-Dallas
-----Original Message-----
From: rickmahaffey
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: NCECA


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello Clayarters,
>
>Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
>of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
>was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
>this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
>this was asked so many people.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Rick Mahaffey
>Tacoma Community College
>Tacoma Washington, USA
>

Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on mon 27 mar 00

I think it's because at that conference, sculptural or functional divides the
artist types from the "others" and puts you into a category so people know what
to talk about with you. At conferences which are "unspecialized" i.e. general
medical conferences (in which I have lots of experience!) you are asked what
kind of medicine you practice i.e. pediatrics, gp, etc., or what kind of
research do you do? It's just a way to cut to the chase. Not everyone wants to
or has the time to meet you as a "person" at a professional conference. You are
asked for your professional interests up front. Although we potters are a down
to earth group, some of us are probably "professional" in our professional
lives. Sometimes students are surprised that artists can be professionals too,
and just don't want to hang out and drink.
Sandy

-----Original Message-----
From: rickmahaffey [SMTP:rickmahaffey@home.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 2:45 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: NCECA

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hello Clayarters,

Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
this was asked so many people.

Any thoughts?

Rick Mahaffey
Tacoma Community College
Tacoma Washington, USA

Earl Brunner on tue 28 mar 00

I really think that it is really more of a question of,
"What kind of work
do you do?" and maybe it gets asked a little funny. When I
meet new
potters I'm certainly curious about how they choose to work
with clay. What
do they do, how do they do it, what is their philosophical
approach?

rickmahaffey wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello Clayarters,
>
> Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
> of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
> was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
> this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
> this was asked so many people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Rick Mahaffey
> Tacoma Community College
> Tacoma Washington, USA

--
Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net

Jeri Palmer on tue 28 mar 00

Wow I can't even describe it. I will have to work all year to try all my
ideas from Denver and then it will be time to do Charlotte. Everyone was so
great, I felt like queen for a day, well, for four days really. Big halloos
to Joyce Lee, Russell, Julia, Leslie, Lori Peg, Pat, Catherine and Carla and
everyone else. Thanks for everything. See you next year if not before.
Jeri

Diane G. Echlin on tue 28 mar 00

> One
> of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
> was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
> this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
> this was asked so many people.


I think it's kind of like when you meet someone at a cocktail party (or keg
party, for the younger set) and you ask, "do you like Rock n Roll or
Blues?" It's an easy conversation starter and on a really basic (albeit,
superficial) level gives the other person a quick idea of who you are. Also
like asking "what line of work are you in?"
Di (a quasi-nonfunctional, sort of functional potter)

>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Rick Mahaffey
> Tacoma Community College
> Tacoma Washington, USA

Dannon Rhudy on tue 28 mar 00

------------------
I've been off the list and don't want to beat any dead horses, but this =
NCECA
was a pleasure. It is always good to meet new people, and to have a chance
to see old friends and acquaintances. I did not get to see as much work as
I might have done, but did see some good exhibits. And some not so - what
one would expect.

Saw some luscious work by Tom Coleman, and some charming pieces by
Jonathan Kaplan, among others. The K-12 show was a delight, my favorite
piece there being one by a second-grader, entitled =22Dragon=22. =
Spontaneous
and fresh and just a pleasure. There was a show at a gallery called =22Show
of Hands=22 that had functional work by many well-known potters, including
Ellen Shankin and Richard Aerni, both of whom had ash-glazed pieces that
were just delicious. There were also a number of wood-firers in that =
exhibit,
Linda Christenson, etc. A very strong exhibit. Saw the Denver Museum's
pre-Columbian collection, and Native American, and Asian. Worth the trip
right there.

I didn't spend a lot of time in the clayart room, as it was quite crowded =
and
I'm prone to some degree of intermittent claustrophobia, but I was there =
from
time to time, and saw just about every possible kind of mug there is, and =
had
some time to talk a bit with new friends and old. Thanks, all, for the good
company and the laughter and the fun and nonsense. I enjoyed the slides
and the comments of the photographer - he made some very important points,
hope y'all were listening....

And I love Colorado. Who could help it? An invigorating place.

The keynote speaker on Wednesday night was Frank Wilson, author of
=22The Hand=22. Should be required reading for just about any I can think =
of
and especially useful and interesting for artists. Read it. Good stuff.

regards

Dannon Rhudy
potter=40koyote.com

Richard Ramirez on tue 28 mar 00

"Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
this was asked so many people.'"


Rick,
It all has to do with power! For some people, they have to know where you
are coming from before they even talk to you, then it's usually something far
from the subject at hand! Life's a ball, you've just have to roll with it!.
DON'T WORRY!

R12396, "The Clay Stalker"Richard Ramirez

the Gallaghers on tue 28 mar 00

This query always amuses me, although I think and ask it too. I do
sculptural, to refrence myself, but does not sculpture serve a function if
only to decorate the place it is put??

Michelle in Oregon
-----Original Message-----
From: rickmahaffey
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: NCECA


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello Clayarters,
>
>Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
>of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
>was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
>this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
>this was asked so many people.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Rick Mahaffey
>Tacoma Community College
>Tacoma Washington, USA

Merrie Boerner on tue 28 mar 00

My first NCECA experience was wonderful ! I met so many friends at the
Clayart room ! Next year I hope to meet more of you !
I also learned alot......but mainly wanted to talk about firing with
wood....imagine that : )
My souvenirs include cups made by Ron Roy, Mahmoud Baghaeian, Kurt Wild,
a tea bowl (with box) by Nils Lou, a t-shirt signed by a bunch of cool
people, videos "On the Wheel with Nils Lou", two hand made brushes, posters,
one piece of chocolate (saved for my birthday) from Russel, and a bowl by
Terry Charbonneau from Las Vegas ("Captain Fire" does anyone know anything
about him?)
Here is a big "THANK YOU" in my Southern accent to ; MEL,
bill jones, and pottery making illustrated.
ruth butler,and the staff of ceramics monthly.
howard axner, and axner ceramics.
euclid's elements.
the potters shop.
wendy rosen, and the rosen group.
alice and feriz delkic and itc.
See yall next year,
Merrie in Mississippi

Paul Lewing on wed 29 mar 00

> rickmahaffey wrote:
> >
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Hello Clayarters,
> >
> > Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
> > of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
> > was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
> > this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
> > this was asked so many people.
> >
> > Any thoughts?

Rick, I think it's their age. Being an OLD guy, the question I get is
not about my work, but "Do you teach or are you a studio artist?" I
look old enough to be a college teacher, but they probably don't. Just
and attempt to pigeonhole people and make it easier to start a
conversation.
Paul Lewing, Seattle,
finally getting over the NCECA sleep deprivation.

Marie E.v.B. Gibbons on wed 29 mar 00

I am curious to know from the NCECA goers about shows you may have seen off
site, did you do the bus tour, did you get around on your own a bit, there
were sooo many shows in town, both functional and non functional, some great
installations, just sooo much to see. Would love to hear what people got to
see, and what the reactions were.

Marie Gibbons
www.oooladies.com

Joanne L. Van Bezooyen on wed 29 mar 00

Jeri and I made our own tour of shows and works we wanted to see on
Saturday. With Jeri as navigator, she took me way up in the mountains
to a little town for lunch....hmmmmm don't think that was on our 'tour'
plan. :-) Some pieces in the shows really knocked our socks off. I
had to hold Jeri's purse and pull her away or I knew she wouldn't have
plane fare home.
Jeri....I found your rocks in my car when I got home to Tucson. Come
and get them!
Joanne in Tucson

Hank Murrow on thu 30 mar 00

With All Respect; Perhaps NCECA has changed from the days I was
involved('69-'88); as the recent posts suggest. However, at the NCECA
Conference in Portland, Oregon many years ago; the first day I
responded,"I'm a potter & kilnbuilder".......Total disinterest. The next
day,"I'm a potter"....mild interest. The last day,"I'm an
artist"....."Let's see your slides." I'm sorry that it seems so; but I find
that in general, NCECA is preoccupied with promotion and tenure; with
anyone not furthering those efforts coming in far behind. Kilnbuilders
seemed to fall into a sort of bluecollar pit. After all, NCECA split off
from the American Ceramics Society to escape the industrial mandate of that
group. Now I find that there is interest among 'ware potters' to escape the
Institutional mandate of the Artist-Potters. Seems fine to me, and my
studio and my cyber-studio are most always open to sharing with those
having a similar interest. Recently, around 50 of us in the Willamette
Valley formed a group called, "Local Clay" to put on an annual show(first
one did $54,000) and to support each other in any ways that seem
productive. Newest effort is to develop an umbrella web-site, with pages
for each. Angst doesn't support growth, so my counsel is to move on and out
of angst, tout vite! Love & Godspeed, in or beyond NCECA! Hank in Eugene

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I really think that it is really more of a question of,
>"What kind of work
>do you do?" and maybe it gets asked a little funny. When I
>meet new
>potters I'm certainly curious about how they choose to work
>with clay. What
>do they do, how do they do it, what is their philosophical
>approach?
>
>rickmahaffey wrote:
>>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Hello Clayarters,
>>
>> Just returned from NCECA where my students and I had a good time. One
>> of my students asked why the first question out of most peoples mouth
>> was: "Do you do functional or sculptural work?" She wanted to know why
>> this was important upon first meeting someone. I could not say why
>> this was asked so many people.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Rick Mahaffey
>> Tacoma Community College
>> Tacoma Washington, USA
>
>--
>Earl Brunner
>http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
>mailto:bruec@anv.net

Earl Brunner on thu 30 mar 00

I did it all on my own, but then I had my car there. I
loved the
McKinnell retrospective show. Awesome! How did they do that
large
copper red vase with the flowers? The commercial gallery
"Show of
Hands" was great. Bought an Aerni pot there. The Littleton
Town Hall
show, the Red Rocks Community College shows. the Bald
Potter's Assoc.,
the Mata Ortiz show, All the great stuff in the Denver Art
Museum (could
have stayed there all day) The Boulder Library show. I
really liked all
of these shows I either didn't make it to the others or
wasn't as
excited by them. A few shows weren't up yet when I went by
on either
Monday or Tuesday. Some I never made it back to.

"Marie E.v.B. Gibbons" wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am curious to know from the NCECA goers about shows you may have seen off
> site, did you do the bus tour, did you get around on your own a bit, there
> were sooo many shows in town, both functional and non functional, some great
> installations, just sooo much to see. Would love to hear what people got to
> see, and what the reactions were.
>
> Marie Gibbons
> www.oooladies.com

--
Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net

Jonathan Kaplan on thu 30 mar 00

So here's my take on NCECA


For me, it is always a treat to go to these conferences, and I do it for
many reasons.

It is important for my business. I meet with my vendors and talk with many
attendees and perhaps some business might develop from networking. It is
also important because I can learn form others and offer some of what I
know in return.

I can also meet other ClayArt members and from this, friendships develop.

And, I can push my own agenda. I will admit that it is ego driven, but I
can get the word out about my business. I also feel it is important that
NCECA begin to include more subjects appropriate to studio potters, and
this also is my agenda. This conference I was lucky to be included in
Wendy's breakfast panel (thanks Wendy!) and moderated a break out session
in assisted technology (thanks Ted!). My work was also included in Marcia
Selsor's panel discussion( thanks Marcia!).

And Ceramic Design Group produced the 4500 or so terra cotta pins that you
all received!

I am honored and flattered on all accounts. But this is a way to have
studio artists become more visable. While we are numerous in attendence, we
need to have more of a presence at the top, so to speak. If you want to
get involved do so! Get nominated to the board, submit a panel proposal,
get the word out about what you feel is important. But don't complain about
all that is wrong if you don't make an effort to get involved.

I have always felt that what I have to offer in this setting is appreciated
by others. I have never felt that as a studio potter, I was on the outside
or my views and opinions excluded at these conferences. Sure there is a
heavy academic thrust at NCECA, but we are having much more of an input and
are more visable. The tool doctor panel is a case in point. Thanks are
greatly due to Vince, David, and Jack for stellar presentations!!

I certainly do not wish to get touchy feel, warm and fuzzy, but the ClayArt
room was indeed a wonderful and happening place. It was qauite nice meeting
many of you. Some of the panel discussions were outright boring, as some
were just fine. Wendy's last post convered many areas that could be
improved. I concur. Louis covered the audio visual thing. I also concur.

And yes, I also come to NCECA to have a good time. Let's send a collective
thank you to Zack at Mile Hi Ceramics fro a great party and great dance
band, and, hopefully I will see many of you in Charlotte next year!

Best

Jonathan


Jonathan Kaplan, president
Ceramic Design Group
PO Box 775112
Steamboat Springs CO 80477
voice and fax 970 879-9139
jonathan@csn,net
http://www.sni.net/ceramicdesigin

Jim Cullen on fri 31 mar 00

Hank, in some ways you're right on target but, CLAYART is there to fill the
void. CLAYARTers are people intrerested in clay and clay stuff. They make it
(made it) worthwhile. Their excitement and inquisitveness made up for all
those academic tenure types. Don't give up on NCECA or ACERS. CLAYART could
become a force that can't be denied.

KEEP CENTERED
Cullen
Naperville, Illinois

Gerry Chichester on fri 31 mar 00

-------------------
I know this is REALLY jumping the gun, but since I was denied the trip to =
Denver
by a particularly acrimonious school district, I'm doubly anxious, after =
hearing
about all the great stuff, to get to the conference in Charlotte next =
year=21
Does anyone have even a vague idea of the dates? Thanks - Carly

Louis H.. Katz on sat 1 apr 00

Dear Carly,
The dates are available on the NCECA website at http://nceca.net. But , here the
are:


NCECA 2001, Evolving Legacies
Charlotte, NC. ,USA- 35th Annual Confere

March 28-31, 2001
Onsite Conference Liason: Jim Connell,
Winthrop University
The call for proposals has been sent out
the NCECA
Newsletter. Copies may also be obtained
from Minerva
Navarrete (718) 939-0963
minerva.nceca@worldnet.att.net

Gerry Chichester wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> -------------------
> I know this is REALLY jumping the gun, but since I was denied the trip to Denv
> by a particularly acrimonious school district, I'm doubly anxious, after heari
> about all the great stuff, to get to the conference in Charlotte next year!
> Does anyone have even a vague idea of the dates? Thanks - Carly

Paul Lewing on sat 1 apr 00

Gerry,
NCECA is March 28-31 next year, quite a bit later than usual.

I thought this was one of the best organized conferences I've been to.
It weemed to me that there were plenty of things on the program for
professional clay artists and teachers alike. The shuttle buses worked
very well this year, and that's often a real nightmare. The difference
between the shuttles and the tours was a bit hard to figure out, but if
you didn't show up by about 5PM on Tuesday it didn't matter anyway,
because the tours were sold out.

I didn't make it to as many of the shows as I would have liked, but all
of them I saw were very good. I especially liked the Bald-Headed
Potters Group show. And I heard rumors that someone was thinking of
starting a Tattooed Potter Group. I wonder how much crossover there
would be?

The people (too numerous to mention) were, as usual, what made it
special. I think it would be worth the price of admission if you never
went to any of the presentations.

I did have one suggestion, though. And, yes, Terry, I did mention this
to Louis. The NCECA Connections breakout groups, the ones that are
divided up according to demographic interest groups (as opposed to the
Topical Interest Groups, which are about very specific subjects) did not
include any group for professional clay artists. Now, I know these need
someone to volunteer to lead them, but when it looks like there will be
one for K-12 teachers, community college teachers, graduate students,
non-profits, and so on, it looks like discrimination and disinterest for
there to not be at least one for studio artists. If no one volunteers,
I'm sure a post to Clayart would find a moderator in a few minutes. I
remember when this format began, and it was started by the Studio Potter
Network, if I'm not mistaken. The first few years there were divisions
for artists working alone, artists working in group studios, artists
with employees, etc. Perhaps that could be done again.

This is a pretty minor gripe, though. All in all, the NCECA conference
is always one of the real high points of my year.

Thanks, guys.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

vince pitelka on sat 1 apr 00

> Hank, in some ways you're right on target but, CLAYART is there to fill
> the void. CLAYARTers are people intrerested in clay and clay stuff.
> They make it (made it) worthwhile. Their excitement and inquisitveness
> made up for all those academic tenure types. > Cullen
> Naperville, Illinois

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!! I think I'll just shoot myself.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Home - vpitelka@dekalb.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
http://www.craftcenter.tntech.edu/

Liz Willoughby on sat 1 apr 00

Hello everyone,

Just got back from Denver and an extended trip to N.M. Been reading
up in the archives about the conference.

My thoughts.

It has become so HUGE over the years, that it is really necessary to
"focus" on what interests you, and do it.

Galleries, panel discussions, slide presentations, demonstrations,
clayart, suppliers, and on and on. Too much, and not enough time to
do it in.

The choice is almost overwhelming. I went to the Tool Doctors, and
wanted to stay, but at the same time there was a Panel on Teapots,
that I wanted to catch. So I ended up going to both. Which wasn't
satisfying for either one. And I wanted to spend more time in the
clayart room, but couldn't.

There were exhibitions that I wanted to see, like the porcelain
exhibit, that I couldn't get to. (The buses conflicted with my
schedule).

I loved the Denver Art Museum, Takashi Nakazato and Anderson Ranch
staff exhibition, Show of Hands, Arvada Centre, well I love wood
fired pots, and shino of course!

I thought the hotel was an excellent choice, however the main bar
lounge again couldn't cope with all the business. Frustrating when
you have to wait a LONG time for a beer!

Another day of tours to galleries would really solve that "choice"
problem. Or perhaps, have the bus tours go every morning, or every
afternoon.

I got Tim Wells raku tea bowl at the mug exchange, and came home with
a Joyce Lee Rutile Blue mug, a Carla Flati mug, Russel Fout's
handleless small cup, a Richard Selfridge tea bowl, Tom Buck bowl,
and bought a wood-fired sake vessel of Connie Christensen and two
mugs of Peg Malloy's at ARVADA.

Great to see everyone and to meet new friends. Had a wonderful time,
and my hat goes off to everyone that donated their time to make the
conference what it is today. Just so MUCH to see and do, in such a
limited amount of time.

Now, I wonder if the clayart room should open two days before the
conference so that we can do our things then, like the slide
presentation, etc.

Good to be back, loved the scenery in Co. and New Mexic., well, that
scenery is going to be with me for a long time.

Liz

Curious as to who got my little mug.

Liz Willoughby
R.R. 1
2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
Grafton, Ontario
Canada. K0K 2G0

e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net

Tasha Olive on sun 2 apr 00

Liz, sounds like you came home with an armful of treasures....any chance you
have the capabilities to share some images of your goodies and share them
with the list? I know its big request but it would be greatly appreciated by
those of us still stinging because we couldn't share in the fun ) and maybe
we can reciprocate some day!! Tasha in New Mexico
-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Willoughby
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:39 PM
Subject: NCECA


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hello everyone,

Just got back from Denver and an extended trip to N.M. Been reading
up in the archives about the conference.

My thoughts.

It has become so HUGE over the years, that it is really necessary to
"focus" on what interests you, and do it.

Galleries, panel discussions, slide presentations, demonstrations,
clayart, suppliers, and on and on. Too much, and not enough time to
do it in.

The choice is almost overwhelming. I went to the Tool Doctors, and
wanted to stay, but at the same time there was a Panel on Teapots,
that I wanted to catch. So I ended up going to both. Which wasn't
satisfying for either one. And I wanted to spend more time in the
clayart room, but couldn't.

There were exhibitions that I wanted to see, like the porcelain
exhibit, that I couldn't get to. (The buses conflicted with my
schedule).

I loved the Denver Art Museum, Takashi Nakazato and Anderson Ranch
staff exhibition, Show of Hands, Arvada Centre, well I love wood
fired pots, and shino of course!

I thought the hotel was an excellent choice, however the main bar
lounge again couldn't cope with all the business. Frustrating when
you have to wait a LONG time for a beer!

Another day of tours to galleries would really solve that "choice"
problem. Or perhaps, have the bus tours go every morning, or every
afternoon.

I got Tim Wells raku tea bowl at the mug exchange, and came home with
a Joyce Lee Rutile Blue mug, a Carla Flati mug, Russel Fout's
handleless small cup, a Richard Selfridge tea bowl, Tom Buck bowl,
and bought a wood-fired sake vessel of Connie Christensen and two
mugs of Peg Malloy's at ARVADA.

Great to see everyone and to meet new friends. Had a wonderful time,
and my hat goes off to everyone that donated their time to make the
conference what it is today. Just so MUCH to see and do, in such a
limited amount of time.

Now, I wonder if the clayart room should open two days before the
conference so that we can do our things then, like the slide
presentation, etc.

Good to be back, loved the scenery in Co. and New Mexic., well, that
scenery is going to be with me for a long time.

Liz

Curious as to who got my little mug.

Liz Willoughby
R.R. 1
2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
Grafton, Ontario
Canada. K0K 2G0

e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net

Liz Willoughby on sun 2 apr 00

How could I possibly forget to mention the precious anagama fired
little shot glass, dripping on one side with ash, that Nan Coffin
gave to me. Well, could be that it was separate from the others, by
my bed with a shot of tequila in it.
Sorry Nan for not mentioning that little pot. I love it. Will send
you a cup soon.

Liz

I got Tim Wells raku tea bowl at the mug exchange, and came home with
a Joyce Lee Rutile Blue mug, a Carla Flati mug, Russel Fout's
handleless small cup, a Richard Selfridge tea bowl, Tom Buck bowl,
and bought a wood-fired sake vessel of Connie Christensen and two
mugs of Peg Malloy's at ARVADA.

Great to see everyone and to meet new friends. Had a wonderful time,
and my hat goes off to everyone that donated their time to make the
conference what it is today. Just so MUCH to see and do, in such a
limited amount of time.
Liz Willoughby
R.R. 1
2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
Grafton, Ontario
Canada. K0K 2G0

e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net

Liz Willoughby on mon 3 apr 00

Hello Tasha,
I wish that I could, but haven't the equipment or the know how. Sorry.
Liz

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Liz, sounds like you came home with an armful of treasures....any chance you
>have the capabilities to share some images of your goodies and share them
>with the list? I know its big request but it would be greatly appreciated by
>those of us still stinging because we couldn't share in the fun ) and maybe
we can reciprocate some day!! Tasha in New Mexico

Liz Willoughby
R.R. 1
2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
Grafton, Ontario
Canada. K0K 2G0

e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net

Earl Brunner on tue 4 apr 00

After editing I have about 75 digital images, mostly pottery
from
various exhibits at NCECA, I would be happy to share,
however I'm in
abit of a quandry. I only know some of the clay artists. I
doubt it
would be ethical to post their pots on the web without their
permission
and/or proper identification and recognition.

Liz Willoughby wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello Tasha,
> I wish that I could, but haven't the equipment or the know how. Sorry.
> Liz
>
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Liz, sounds like you came home with an armful of treasures....any chance you
> >have the capabilities to share some images of your goodies and share them
> >with the list? I know its big request but it would be greatly appreciated by
> >those of us still stinging because we couldn't share in the fun ) and maybe
> we can reciprocate some day!! Tasha in New Mexico
>
> Liz Willoughby
> R.R. 1
> 2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
> Grafton, Ontario
> Canada. K0K 2G0
>
> e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net

--
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http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net

Earl Brunner on wed 5 apr 00

I was thinking it might be possible to put some on an area
of my web page (for a limited time) that is not accessable
accept through clayart. not sure if that would be a better
solution. what does anyone think?

Jocelyn Olivia Mc Auley wrote:
>
> When you resolve your quandry (which is a good one), could you send an
> email to me or a post to the list? I would love to see images from the
> exhibits.
>
> thank you for wanting to share your pictures.
>
> Jocelyn McAuley
>
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Earl Brunner wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > After editing I have about 75 digital images, mostly pottery
> > from
> > various exhibits at NCECA, I would be happy to share,
> > however I'm in
> > abit of a quandry. I only know some of the clay artists. I
> > doubt it
> > would be ethical to post their pots on the web without their
> > permission
> > and/or proper identification and recognition.
> >
> > Liz Willoughby wrote:
> > >
> > > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > > Hello Tasha,
> > > I wish that I could, but haven't the equipment or the know how. Sorry.
> > > Liz
> > >
> > > >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > > >Liz, sounds like you came home with an armful of treasures....any chance
> > > >have the capabilities to share some images of your goodies and share them
> > > >with the list? I know its big request but it would be greatly appreciated
> > > >those of us still stinging because we couldn't share in the fun ) and may
> > > we can reciprocate some day!! Tasha in New Mexico
> > >
> > > Liz Willoughby
> > > R.R. 1
> > > 2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
> > > Grafton, Ontario
> > > Canada. K0K 2G0
> > >
> > > e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net
> >
> > --
> > Earl Brunner
> > http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
> > mailto:bruec@anv.net
> >

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Tasha Olive on wed 5 apr 00

Earl, Probably not.....but how about the ones that you do know the names of?
Personally I cannot imagine that anyone would be offended at having tier
work in the public eye, but who knows? Tasha in Roswell
-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Brunner
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: NCECA


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>After editing I have about 75 digital images, mostly pottery
>from
>various exhibits at NCECA, I would be happy to share,
>however I'm in
>abit of a quandry. I only know some of the clay artists. I
>doubt it
>would be ethical to post their pots on the web without their
>permission
>and/or proper identification and recognition.
>
>Liz Willoughby wrote:
>>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> Hello Tasha,
>> I wish that I could, but haven't the equipment or the know how. Sorry.
>> Liz
>>
>> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> >Liz, sounds like you came home with an armful of treasures....any chance
you
>> >have the capabilities to share some images of your goodies and share
them
>> >with the list? I know its big request but it would be greatly
appreciated by
>> >those of us still stinging because we couldn't share in the fun ) and
maybe
>> we can reciprocate some day!! Tasha in New Mexico
>>
>> Liz Willoughby
>> R.R. 1
>> 2903 Shelter Valley Rd.
>> Grafton, Ontario
>> Canada. K0K 2G0
>>
>> e-mail, lizwill@phc.igs.net
>
>--
>Earl Brunner
>http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
>mailto:bruec@anv.net
>

Jeff Lawrence on fri 7 apr 00

Earl Brunner was wondering if it would be ethical to post images of others
pots on the web.

Hello Earl,

I can't think why you shouldn't, unless you snuck into someone's hotel room
and took the picture without permission. If they were on public display, on
which but oversensitive toes would you be stepping?

Attribution would be the best, of course.

Sounds like a pretty straightforward First Amendment proposition from here.

Jeff

Louis Katz on wed 12 apr 00

Dear Clayart,
I recieved this letter via snail mail from Steve Reynolds the Present
President of NCECA asking that I post it to Clayart. (Optical Character
Recognition is really cool.)

I did not forward Wendy's letter to anyone on the board, although others
of course are free to do so and apparently did. Before board meetings I
make a summary of comments, suggestions, observations etc. and forward
them after deleting names. I try to do a good job of editing and
summarizing including all opinions even those I disagree with. I also
sugeest that people write the board directly.
I delete names as I believe that it fosters more comments and
discussion. But, Clayart is like a public forum with a big audience.

Please Reply to Steve, His email address is: sreynolds@utsa.edu .

Louis

To: Wendy Rosen From: Steve Reynolds, NCECA President Subject: Remarks
concerning the Denver Conference

Dear Wendy,

I recently received a copy of your remarks that you sent out to CLAYART
regarding your perceptions of this year's conference and I find some of
your thoughts disturbing. You stated that people are expecting more and
are getting less in the arena of programming. Since we actually had more
physical space at this conference site, we actually added more panels
and lectures than we have had in a number of years and if you would
check we even had to start earlier and end later than in the past to get
all of this in.

When you state that..."the panel discussions are very weak in content",
I believe you owe it to your audience to state which panels and what
participants you found lacking. Otherwise, it casts a very suspect
shadow over your judgement. Healthy criticism is based on specificity
not nebulous generalities. Again, you state that ...."every panel
discussion I've ever attended was organized over a three martini lunch".
Very clever, but you again do not state if you even went to a panel this
year and if you did, which one. You continue with your notion that the
single lectures seem to be academic diserations (I'm guessing you meant
dissertations) more suited for medical school than the arts. Which
lectures? What participants? These generic aspersions that you cast are,
in my estimation, very damaging to your credibility as a person who has
a leadership role in the field of American ceramics.

There is also a delicious irony in your comments regarding the
conference that has become too large for ONE room meetings and we need
smaller break out rooms with lots of really great topics. You complete
this particular thought with the rejoiner that it was good to see you
all in the ClayArt room but that we NEED a BIGGER ROOM.

Lastly, you make a point that NCECA has the opportunity to grow if they
(NCECA) will embrace the studio artists and the collectors. I have
continued to hear this dirge repeated over the internet and I am
wondering if people really go to the trouble to look at our programming
and our outstanding studio artists that we have as demonstrators year in
and year out. It also may be interesting to note that all of the members
of the NCECA board have fairly high profiles as exhibiting artists as
well as substantial academic lives, and all have made a considerable
commitment to '`building values and growing members". With the 3584
registrations at the Denver conference, it was the largest one yet. I
think we are doing a good job growing the membership and building value.
Of course, none of it is possible without the direct input of the
member's finest thoughts and deepest feelings. This is still a member-
driven organization.

I very much look forward to your continued thoughts and support for
NCECA and the field of American ceramics. Have a productive summer and
we will see you in Charlotte.

Louis H.. Katz on thu 6 jul 00


Hello Clayart,
I am on my way to Helena Montana and will be spending a little time planning a
sculpture I will build next summer. If there are pressing NCECA questions please
direct them to someone else on our board. You can find them at http://nceca.net.
I want to remind you about the The NCECA 2001 Clay National Exhibition Prospectus
now available from our page and recently posted images of this last year's NCECA
show, "A Glimpse of the Invisible" and the NCECA Regional Student Juried
Exhibition.
If you are down this way some of my latest is available for your look/see at the
Rockport Art Center opening July 29th. I will return in a few weeks to a stuffed
mailbox.
I have completly removed my pipe organ and saved it from being removed by sawzall.

Enjoy your month.

Louis Katz
NEW EMAIL ADDRESS Louis.Katz@mail.tamucc.edu
NCECA Director of Electronic Communication and Webmaster(Ad-Hoc)
Texas A&M-CC Division of Visual and Performing Arts
Visit the NCECA World Ceramics Image Database Online
Looking for a school or a class? Visit NCECA Ceramics Educational Programs
Database Online

Rebecca Gregory on wed 1 nov 00


Howdy all! I have some questions concerning the NCECA this March. Do I need
to make hotel reservations now? A friend of mine and I are "planning" on
going, but the fees for the hotels that are reserved for this conference
seem a little out of our reach for 3 or 4 nights. Are there any motels
around there that we could book a room and then park near the hotel where
the conference is being held? Also, just pall park estimate please, how
much money do we need for this event? I have never been before (obviously),
and I would very much like to go.

Any information would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Becky Gregory

PS thanks to all who responded to my question about rewiring my old bisque
kiln. Even though I really didn't get the answer I wanted. I feel that I
have a little more information than what I did have before!
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Joyce Lee on wed 1 nov 00


Just which are the dates for NCECA 2001? Thank you.

Joyce
In the Mojave

Louis H.. Katz on wed 1 nov 00


Hi Joyce,
http://nceca.net
NCECA 2001; Evolving Legacies
Charlotte, NC. , USA- 35th Annual Conference
March 28-31, 2001
Onsite Conference Liaison: Jim Connell, Winthrop
University
Louis


Joyce Lee wrote:

> Just which are the dates for NCECA 2001? Thank you.
>
> Joyce
> In the Mojave
>
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NCECA Director of Electronic Communication and Webmaster(Ad-Hoc)
Texas A&M-CC Division of Visual and Performing Arts
Visit the NCECA World Ceramics Image Database Online
Looking for a school or a class? Visit NCECA Ceramics Educational Programs
Database Online

L. P. Skeen on wed 1 nov 00


Stay at the Travelodge on the corner of Pine and Trade St. downtown. It
will be about $60/night.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rebecca Gregory
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:46 AM
Subject: NCECA


> Howdy all! I have some questions concerning the NCECA this March. Do I
need
> to make hotel reservations now? A friend of mine and I are "planning" on
> going, but the fees for the hotels that are reserved for this conference
> seem a little out of our reach for 3 or 4 nights. Are there any motels
> around there that we could book a room and then park near the hotel where
> the conference is being held? Also, just pall park estimate please, how
> much money do we need for this event? I have never been before
(obviously),
> and I would very much like to go.
>
> Any information would be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks!
> Becky Gregory
>
> PS thanks to all who responded to my question about rewiring my old bisque
> kiln. Even though I really didn't get the answer I wanted. I feel that I
> have a little more information than what I did have before!
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Karen R. Betts on sat 11 nov 00


To the List;

I have read a lot about the 2001 NCECA, and who and how and that it is in
North Carolina, but could someone please send me specific info with dates,
times, application cost, etc. and exact location in N.C. I would like to
attend and am anxious to find out.

Thanks in Advance,
Karen R. Betts

Penni Stoddart on sun 12 nov 00


Perhaps the person who responds could do so on the list as I would like to
see this info too.
Thanks
Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots
President, Artisans London
LPG web site Manager
www.members.home.net/londonpotters

Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen R. Betts"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 11:20 PM
Subject: NCECA


> To the List;
>
> I have read a lot about the 2001 NCECA, and who and how and that it is in
> North Carolina, but could someone please send me specific info with dates,
> times, application cost, etc. and exact location in N.C. I would like to
> attend and am anxious to find out.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Karen R. Betts
>
>
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email@DOMAIN.COM on sun 12 nov 00


Hi Karen,
I would love to, most of the information on the conference can be found at:
http://nceca.net. The link NCECA 2001, Evolving Legacies will bring up the
ocnference information. A few details in the program for Thu and Friday have
changed and will be updated as soon as I get the files. To register for the
conference you need an application form available on the poster or a printable
form soon to be available on the web.
Louis

Louis Katz
NEW EMAIL ADDRESS Louis.Katz@mail.tamucc.edu
NCECA Director of Electronic Communication and Webmaster(Ad-Hoc)

Anji Henderson on sun 12 nov 00


All NCECA info can be found on there web page..

http://www2.tamucc.edu/~nceca/

Anji

--- Penni Stoddart wrote:
> Perhaps the person who responds could do so on the
> list as I would like to
> see this info too.
> Thanks
> Penni Stoddart of Penelope's Pots


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scott lykens on mon 13 nov 00


nceca usually has this really neat website. it should have all the goodies
posted by now, or really soon.

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>attend and am anxious to find out.
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Nancy Jervey on thu 30 nov 00


Does anyone know what the pre session workshop is before
NCECA. this year in N.C. is? Thanks.
Nancy

Diane Mead on thu 7 dec 00


Please only say
"What a ditz"
once when reading tis post:
In the archives, where can I
get basic info on NCECA
and I am sure it is way
too late to try to go--
correct?
(I peeked in the archives but got
bogged--I will look again but
if anyone has a quick keywork
they remember--thanks!!!)
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Em1312@AOL.COM on mon 11 dec 00


Not able to locate the Omni hotel in Charlotte NC that the ClayArt room is
suppose to be, can anyone help me with a phone number, thank you........ It
must be listed in another manner.....

Louis Katz on mon 11 dec 00


If you visit http://nceca.net and click on the NCECA 2001 (upper left) it will
take you to a page with oodles of NCECA info including a phone number for the
Omni.
Louis

Em1312@AOL.COM wrote:

> Not able to locate the Omni hotel in Charlotte NC that the ClayArt room is
> suppose to be, can anyone help me with a phone number, thank you........ It
> must be listed in another manner.....
>
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John Jensen on fri 22 dec 00


I've just rejoined the list after a long absense. Can someone please get me
up to date on the NCECA conference? I want to go.

John Jensen, Mudbug Potter, Annapolis

email@DOMAIN.COM on fri 22 dec 00


Dear John,

Up to date information can be had at http://nceca.net . Hotels are filling up
fast. Please make your reservations early.
Louis

Judy Snell on tue 26 dec 00


Hi All,
I am a beginning potter who got a late 'clay'start in life. A friend told
me about Ceramics Monthly and about NCECA but I can't find out the date of
the next NCECA Conference. I think it is in Charlotte but I found that in
someone else's post. Can anyone point me in some direction. I just started
wheel training in April 2000 and am taking weekly classes at a local
studio. I still have trouble with the most basic stuff but I now look
forward to my studio time and don't get discouraged easily. So far my motto
of 'nothing dies on my watch' has been realized and even the most
mishandled piece of clay has been salvaged for some redeemable good. I am
having fun but want to learn more. Please assist if you know of any basic
info that might help me. Thank you all. -Judy in Madison, WI.

Fabienne Micheline Cassman on tue 26 dec 00


Check the website out, http://www.nceca.net It's worth the trip!

Hope to see you there,

Fabienne in Chicagoland

At 09:57 AM 12/26/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>I am a beginning potter who got a late 'clay'start in life. A friend told
>me about Ceramics Monthly and about NCECA but I can't find out the date of
>the next NCECA Conference. I think it is in Charlotte but I found that in
>someone else's post. Can anyone point me in some direction. I just started
>wheel training in April 2000 and am taking weekly classes at a local
>studio. I still have trouble with the most basic stuff but I now look
>forward to my studio time and don't get discouraged easily. So far my motto
>of 'nothing dies on my watch' has been realized and even the most
>mishandled piece of clay has been salvaged for some redeemable good. I am
>having fun but want to learn more. Please assist if you know of any basic
>info that might help me. Thank you all. -Judy in Madison, WI.

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miriam on tue 26 dec 00


Judy:
Go to http://nceca.net
Mimi in NJ USA Glad to be going to my 1st NCECA

Judy Snell wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I am a beginning potter who got a late 'clay'start in life. A friend told
> me about Ceramics Monthly and about NCECA but I can't find out the date of
> the next NCECA Conference. I think it is in Charlotte but I found that in
> someone else's post. Can anyone point me in some direction. I just started
> wheel training in April 2000 and am taking weekly classes at a local
> studio. I still have trouble with the most basic stuff but I now look
> forward to my studio time and don't get discouraged easily. So far my motto
> of 'nothing dies on my watch' has been realized and even the most
> mishandled piece of clay has been salvaged for some redeemable good. I am
> having fun but want to learn more. Please assist if you know of any basic
> info that might help me. Thank you all. -Judy in Madison, WI.
>
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Doug Jones on wed 10 jan 01


I am new on here and have been seeing a lot of discussion on the NCECA.
Could someone tell me a little about this conference and how to register.
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Burningham
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: NCECA


> Already got that one figured plus rented a van to get everybody to
> Charlotte. You want to ride along? What are your travel plans?
>
> Pays to figure airfare to all the surrounding airports and not just the
> closest one. More than pays for the car rental. Just like you said. Lee
>
> "been checking airfare into Charlotte from Salt Lake City"
>
>
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Earl Brunner on wed 10 jan 01


I have been checking airfare into Charlotte from Salt Lake City ( I'm
planning on going up there and then going the rest of the way with
friends) I found out that if we fly into Raleigh instead of Charlotte it
will cost half as much and is actually a more direct flight. There will
be a bout a 170 mile drive from Raleigh to Charlotte, but the savings
will more than pay for the car rental and then we will have the car to
get around. Thought some of you might want to consider something like this.
--
Earl Brunner
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mailto:bruec@anv.net

Lee Burningham on wed 10 jan 01


Already got that one figured plus rented a van to get everybody to
Charlotte. You want to ride along? What are your travel plans?

Pays to figure airfare to all the surrounding airports and not just the
closest one. More than pays for the car rental. Just like you said. Lee

"been checking airfare into Charlotte from Salt Lake City"

Louis Katz on sun 11 mar 01


Hi Tjo62
The web address of NCECA is http://nceca.net. It has a bunch of hotels listed on
it as well as concurrent exhibitions and other stuff.
Louis
NCECA Webmaster
http://nceca.net


BTW list your school or art center in the NCECA Ceramic Programs Database.
http://165.95.9.22/In2/


Tjo62@AOL.COM wrote:

will edwards on tue 27 mar 01


Hello,

To those of you going to NCECA I wish you all a safe trip and a properous=
one.
I can only wish I was was going as well!
It would have been great to meet all of the wonderful and talented minds =
that
I have enjoyed writting and fussing back and forth with over this or that=
=2E It
would be a great way to show that we are not always what we appear to be =
once
we get together in a room.

Deep inside I know everyone comes to the group with all lifes experiences=
and
sometimes those are very disciplined and other times they are ragged or l=
oose.
I came to the group with open ends of anxious energy with only a small
fraction of interests in most things outside of glaze issues and perhaps =
some
new innovations. That does not mean that I do not read each article but s=
ays I
have a narrow margin I work in most times. Since I became a proud member =
of
our group I have since learned to open my mind and remember to allow the =
flow
of information to take hold where ever it falls.

Each of our members going to NCECA should know in their hearts that we st=
ay at
home folks will be rooting for your safe return and especially the vast
information that will follow once you get back and on the computer once m=
ore.
(I can't wait). Someone please take lots of pictures and find a way to po=
st
them to us!!!! Also hug each other while there and remember we are behind=
you
100%. Also keep in mind that while some of us folks are not going to be t=
here
we are still with you and you are representing us as a whole. So fuss a l=
ittle
and love allot for me!

William Edwards
Alchemy 101 - Staying behind to hold down the Fort. =




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Bobbi Bassett on tue 27 mar 01


To all my fellow clayart friends,

We have had to cancel our reservations and will not be going to Charlotte.
My husband and partner, Art, went to the hospital with chest tightness
yesterday... had tests and an EKG. Tomorrow they are doing a cardiac
Catherization. He has had a heart attack (1977) and a quad bypass (1992).

I wish everyone a great time and we will really be missing you all.

Bobbi in PA

priddy on tue 27 mar 01


i wish i was there...but i will not be able to go...

I am recovering nicely from being sick and will be in Medalta in June com=
e
hell or high water...which is why I won't be at nceca. I cannot afford t=
he
time away from home because I will be moving in about six weeks and I nee=
d to
finish a great deal of WORK before I move. I wanted to meet everyone at =
the
clayart room, but it will have to wait a while longer.

and regarding playing: no one would pay you or me a red nickel for "play=
ing
in mud"...when you stop calling it that, you are well on your way to bein=
g a
professional potter, rather than a hobbyist. And until you are a
professional, you should not ask people to pay you for your product(many
people WORK part time for various reasons). For those of you lucky enoug=
h to
be at NCECA, look around and ask yourself if the vendors would spend the =
money
for that conference if it wasn't about money.

Wishing I was there, but enjoying my WORK for the first time in months...=


Elizabeth

still respectfully submitted,
elizabeth priddy, as is

priddy-clay@usa.net
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop

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tomsawyer on tue 3 apr 01


Got home yesterday after a stop over in Savanah; this is really a =
wonderful town. On the way there and home, I often thought of all of the =
clayarters that I met for the first time. It was great fun to meet mel, =
Joyce, Tony, Kurt, Tom and so many many others. What a great group. As =
an aside, I have some nice pictures in a powerpoint presentation that =
I'll send as an attachment to anyone interested. Been looking at John =
Hesselberth's pass out; I told several persons this was not only the =
best presentation I heard at NCECA but one of the best ever.
Tom Sawyer
tsawyer@cfl.rr.com

John Weber on wed 4 apr 01


Tom, I would like to see your presentation. Please send it to me off the
list at: jodopottery@mediaone.com
I also have some slides I would be glad to share with anyone interested,
just send me a post off list and I'll send them as an MGI slide show - you
don't need any added software. John Weber

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
> Behalf Of tomsawyer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:43 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: NCECA
>
>
> Got home yesterday after a stop over in Savanah; this is really a
> wonderful town. On the way there and home, I often thought of all
> of the clayarters that I met for the first time. It was great fun
> to meet mel, Joyce, Tony, Kurt, Tom and so many many others. What
> a great group. As an aside, I have some nice pictures in a
> powerpoint presentation that I'll send as an attachment to anyone
> interested. Been looking at John Hesselberth's pass out; I told
> several persons this was not only the best presentation I heard
> at NCECA but one of the best ever.
> Tom Sawyer
> tsawyer@cfl.rr.com
>
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Lana Reeves on wed 4 apr 01


I'm still processing everything I saw & did, and most important, all the =
wonderful people I met. So many, all so nice and giving and interesting =
and funny, if I started to name names, the list would go on and on. =
Thanks, all of you!

NCECA flowed along very smoothly, I can imagine the time and effort that =
went into organizing and running it, and I'm totally impressed.

Calyart: what a fine, welcoming experience that was! I felt very shy, =
but everyone I met was great. Now when I read your emails, I'll be able =
to picture you all, and feel even more that you are my friends. I love =
my cup from the mug exchange. Funny-- I put in a shino tea bowl and =
got... a shino tea bowl, [by Jim Bowen, delicious.] I was surprised =
that I was not the only person who was worried that my contribution was =
not good enough. We were all able to reassure one another.

Well, a couple of salespeople at trade-show booths were a little =
aggressive in pulling me in, but the rest made up for it with friendly, =
well informed, generous sharing. I came back with lots of stuff, =
including a glaze calc program, some Sherrill Ribs, a Gilespie Borate =
sample, Soldner's silkscreen, poster & autograph, great T-Shirts given =
FREE by Geil and Paragon Kilns, and a very different throwing bat from =
North Star....

Thanks, everyone, hope to see you all again.

Lana in Somerville, MA
kilnkat@rcn.com =3D^..^=3D
where cats and clay not only collide... I came home to find they'd =
decided my drying, to be recycled clay was bargain basement kitty =
litter. Oh, well, I still love them.

Carrie or Peter Jacobson on thu 5 apr 01


Greetings. Some impressions and a story.

For me, a fledgling potter, NCECA was a delightful mix of the how-to and the
why-to. Lots of the discussions, panel, lectures, etc., gave me that great
spurt of insight and vision and excitement I so often need, that sense of
possibility, that arcing jolt of excitement. Philosophy, poetry, the heart
of the art, that was given freely in and out of the workshops.

But the how-to also was there. The nuts and bolts stuff, the instructions if
you will, that stay with one long after the idealism has worn off. How to
make the stable glazes, make the good slides, how to approach the physics of
throwing, these and hundreds of other bits of information, facts, they will
improve my craft.

And the thing as a whole - In one session, I sat near a woman who had a
broken foot and a large bag of tricks. It was midafternoon, and I'd had
nothing to eat that day. Just coffee. The woman with the broken foot sat
down. Another woman sat in front of her, and started talking about how
hungry she was. Broken-foot reached into her big bag and pulled out a half a
sandwich and gave it to her. Must have caught me looking, as she reached
into her bag and pulled out a cold sweet apple, and gave it to me. It was
the best apple I've ever had.

"Bet they will be happy when the next convention shows up," she said. "They
probably won't pack their own lunches."

But that's not the story. This is:

Over the years on the list, I have argued - sometimes purposefully,
sometimes (I admit) just to stir things up - that I don't really understand
the overriding fascination with things Japanese. We Americans should turn
our eyes toward our own shores, our own mixed bag of heritages, etc., and
besides, I have said, I don't *get* the esthetic. I have argued this
particularly about teabowls.

Often, I've done this arguing with mel.

Now. My last name is Jacobson, and throughout NCECA, I was asked again and
again if I were mel's wife. That is funny enough, I guess. But at the mug
exchange, I reached in the box, and pulled out... a picture of mel. Meaning
I got his mug.

Walked myself over to the table, already feeling chagrined... found the "J"
area... And found... a teabowl! Of course. Decorated in a Japanese sort of
style with a nice matte glaze...

At any rate, the karmic retribution is, I think, pretty darn funny. And I
love the teabowl, I must say. Heidi from the list says it will change my
life, and I'm pretty sure she's right. You know, you get what you need.

Finally, it was great to meet some clayarters. A lovely bunch of people.

Carrie Jacobson
Bolster's Mills, Maine
snowbound

Liz Willoughby on thu 12 apr 01


Things I learned in North Carolina/NCECA/etc.....

Organize your time or all will be lost!

There is more clay in North Carolina than anywhere else and all of
the potters live and work in the mountains and wood-fire. :->

Don't drive on the Blue Ridge Parkway in the fog.

Don't leave the reading light on for 5 days while the car is parked
in the Adam's Mark Hotel.

Do bring a raincoat, umbrella, warm sweaters and boots.

Time goes too fast.

Not enough time to meet and visit with clayarters.

John Hesselberth's talk on glazes was just excellent.

David Hendley's fish bag is his. (Tried to get it off him, no success)

To see friends, Tony and Sheila, one has to travel to NCECA.

Mel looks fine, not sick at all, and Mel I was teasing.

Kirk can dance. (Managed to drag Kirk out on the dance floor for one
dance, all the while he was saying, "Oh, I can't dance.)

Charlotte was a perfect place for the conference. Close to
Asheville, (Blue Spiral is a wonderful gallery), Seagrove, Penland,
Potters on the Roan. And the scenery is beautiful. I liked the small
town atmosphere of the city.

As always there is so much to fit in too little time. I really
wanted to meet and talk with more clayarters, and before I knew it
the conference had ended. Among clayarters that I met were Cat and
Millie, and it was great talking with them. Bumped into Sarah,
Russel, and David H., on the Roan, if you want to check out the
web-site it is <>. Haven't
checked it out myself.

Maybe clayart needs to take a day for its own, either before or after
the conference to give us a chance to meet and talk. Of course,
there are so many coming to the conference which is great, but it is
more difficult to communicate when our room is packed. Sometimes
overwhelming.

Just some thoughts.

Thank you Fabienne for posting all those pictures.

Meticulously loose Liz










Liz Willoughby
RR 1
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Grafton, On.
Canada
K0K 2G0
e-mail lizwill@phc.igs.net

John Baymore on fri 13 apr 01



There is more clay in North Carolina than anywhere else and all of
the potters live and work in the mountains and wood-fire. :-><


Yes....... and the Seagrove area seems to be the Mashiko of America. Oth=
er
than when I was in Japan.... never seen so many potters in one place. =


BEst,

..................john

John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA

603-654-2752 (s)
800-900-1110 (s)

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Jill Tortorella on sat 14 apr 01


but they are all folk potters. i love that place but some work a lot harder
than others. have you noticed that.. i was there and many didnt even know
what nceca was

Burns Christina on thu 11 oct 01


Speaking of NCECA . . . How does one get involved?

I have never been and really want to attend this year, with it being only an
hour away. Please let me know what I need to do to be included. Thanks


Letty

Earl Brunner on thu 27 dec 01


If it's in your back yard, and you can't handle the $170.00, you should still try
to take in the shows that are held in conjunction with NCECA. Lots of them. You
could still come to the Clayart Room, you just couldn't get into most of the
"official" events.

Kate Johnson wrote:

> Hi, all...I'm hoping to go to NCECA this year, it being right in my
> backyard, but visited the site and noticed, erk, the $170 registration. As
> many of us do, I'm counting my pennies and squeezing them pretty tightly
> before letting them go (after all, I DESPERATELY want my own wheel and a
> kiln!)--so just wondering what's included in that $170?
>
> I looked at the preliminary schedule and wondered if I even know enough yet
> to go? --

Earl Brunner
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
mailto:bruec@anv.net

Kate Johnson on thu 27 dec 01


Hi, all...I'm hoping to go to NCECA this year, it being right in my
backyard, but visited the site and noticed, erk, the $170 registration. As
many of us do, I'm counting my pennies and squeezing them pretty tightly
before letting them go (after all, I DESPERATELY want my own wheel and a
kiln!)--so just wondering what's included in that $170?

I looked at the preliminary schedule and wondered if I even know enough yet
to go? A lot of this is, alas, way over my head with only 7 months of
continuous potting under my belt. I've not done reduction firing, my glazes
are still commercial, from the bottle. Not sure I'll EVER be doing it as a
production potter, my favorite stuff is one of a kind...

So tell me, please. What can a newbie expect, aside from the chance to test
drive some wheels, which I am most hoping to do?

By the way, the batwash discussion is certainly interesting. I'm beginning
to realize why my stuff often has little chunks in it even when I am very,
very careful with my glaze...falls off the shelf above, I'll bet...siiiigh!
The high school kids are VERY messy with glaze, put it on really thickly and
LOVE those ghastly crystal things, don't get the footring concept, don't
remember to sponge of the bottoms of their creations...guess I better start
volunteering to scrape shelves!

Best--
Kate

artimater on tue 1 jan 02


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Bill Edwards on wed 2 jan 02


Hi,

I believe many people will find ways to attend
conferences such as NCECA and sometimes they might be
rather inventive in what it takes to get there.
Occasionally things will hamper even our best efforts
but I applaud those who are always on the prowl to
find ways to maximize their experience and travel
plans in order to make it to such events.
It is always good to know that these experiences are
enriching and rewarding for all who attend. Its also
great to have a group such as Clayart where stay at
home potters can still share a great deal of
information upon everyones return to the pottery
wheel.

William Edwards

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Hank Murrow on wed 9 jan 02


Jay wrote;

>Why doesn't the annual NCECA meeting occur at a university or college
>campus during the summer.

>If I am overlooking some basic info., please clue me in.


Dear Jay;

My bet is that ceramics faculty will not want to give their summer
vacation time over to 'academic' business. Check out the Board, bet all are
associated with an institution.

Cheers, Hank

jay s. gertz on wed 9 jan 02


Fellow potters!

I have suggested this idea to the NCECA board before and although the
folks I have talked to seemed to think it was a good idea, naught has
come of it....

Why doesn't the annual NCECA meeting occur at a university or college
campus during the summer. Most schools would be glad to rent out empty
dorm rooms and make conference space available for events such as this.
There are usually hotels and motels nearby most large universities and
colleges that would accommodate the overflow. There is always an
academic presence affiliated with the conference each year.

I am sure that even more student potters and beginning potters that
otherwise cannot afford to attend would do so if the costs were less for
rooms, etc.

The prices that Hyatt or the other venues NCECA has chosen over the last
several is outrageous. I always find myself looking for a cheapo motel
within reasonable driving distance.

If I am overlooking some basic info., please clue me in.

Thanks,

jay

Millie Carpenter on thu 10 jan 02


Jay,
I can see some of the cost advantage, but when you weigh it with the fact that
you would have to bring your own linens, clock, coffee/tea maker, radio, etc. on
the airplane with you, and you would have to clean the room out when you left.
and we will not go into the type of beds they have in most college dorms. to say
nothing of the campus menu...... the communal bathrooms, my middle aged body
can't do that any more.

Millie in Md. where Lori leary is visiting and we are going to a Malcolm davis
workshop. and she brought me a pickup truck load of Snow........

"jay s. gertz" wrote:

> Fellow potters!
>
> I have suggested this idea to the NCECA board before and although the
> folks I have talked to seemed to think it was a good idea, naught has
> come of it....
>
> Why doesn't the annual NCECA meeting occur at a university or college
> campus during the summer. Most schools would be glad to rent out empty
> dorm rooms and make conference space available for events such as this.
> There are usually hotels and motels nearby most large universities and
> colleges that would accommodate the overflow. There is always an
> academic presence affiliated with the conference each year.
>
> I am sure that even more student potters and beginning potters that
> otherwise cannot afford to attend would do so if the costs were less for
> rooms, etc.
>
> The prices that Hyatt or the other venues NCECA has chosen over the last
> several is outrageous. I always find myself looking for a cheapo motel
> within reasonable driving distance.
>
> If I am overlooking some basic info., please clue me in.
>
> Thanks,
>
> jay
>
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Bill Edwards on sun 20 jan 02


I thought I would pass this along to those interested.
NCECA now has online registration. Its linked to the
homepage as well as other places. It takes visa and
mastercard. There is also a PDF form for downloading.

William Edwards
Tallapoosa River Pottery

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Bill Edwards on sun 3 feb 02


Hi,

Heres the addy for anyone wanting to check the current
status for the conference. The site includes pre and
post conference events as well.

http://www.nceca.net/conf2002.htm

William Edwards
Tallapoosa River Pottery

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Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman on mon 4 feb 02


Hi to clayarters familiar with KC,

I was looking at the NCECA site, planning to register before it costs an
additional $50 (after February 14th), but I don't know enough about the
various bus tours to select. I've never stayed in Kansas City (have only
driven through) and have no idea of distance (except by price of the shuttle
busses).

Is there any public transportation from the conference hotels to any of the
places on these tours?

Are there any "must see" destinations you know of on these tours.

From past experience, I bet they're all great, but since we need to choose
ahead of time, I'm interested in hearing from anyone with experience.

At $5 the KCAI/NCECA Invitational Shuttle includes the NCECA Invitational at
H & R Block Artspace at KCAI, the Kemper Museum of Contemporary Art and 5
nearby galleries including several KCAI exhibits and the Nelson Atkins
Museum of Art, The Greenlease Gallery at Rockhurst University, and the
Leopold Gallery.

At $5 the Crossroads/RSJE Shuttle includes the Red Star Studios and 2 other
sites within walking distance, the Leedy-Voulkos Art Center with an NCECA
related show and 21 galleries within walking distance, Grand Arts and 2
galleries within walking distance, and the American Jazz Museum.

At $7, the River market/Bottoms Shuttle, including the Dirt Gallery and 2
others within walking distance, Farenheit, Kansas City Artists Coalition and
the Morgan Gallery within walking distance.

At $12, approx 3.5 hours, the Overland Park Kansas Tour, including 5 stops
to JanWeiner Gallery, Center Earth Gallery, Gallery at Village Shalom,
Johnson country community College, Filipino cultural Center.

At $14 Lawrence, Kansas tour, approx 3.5 hours to University Art & Design
Gallery, Spencer Museum of Art (both at the University of Kansas), Lawrence
Art Center and Bracker's Good Earth Clays, Inc.

I've only given a brief summary. A lot of detail is available on the
NCECA.com web site.

TIA for your opinions,

Bonnie

Bonnie Hellman in Pittsburgh, PA
REALLY looking forward to NCECA!



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Edwards"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: NCECA


> Hi,
>
> Heres the addy for anyone wanting to check the current
> status for the conference. The site includes pre and
> post conference events as well.
>
> http://www.nceca.net/conf2002.htm
>
> William Edwards
> Tallapoosa River Pottery
>
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Angela Simmons on thu 7 feb 02


When is the NCECA. I used to live in KC, MO. Would love a reason to visit.
How do I get tickets to the sympoxium? Is there a web site?
Gosh, Thanks,
Stuck in Kentucky

Marta Matray Gloviczki on thu 7 feb 02


Angela Simmons wrote:

>When is the NCECA. I used to live in KC, MO. Would love a reason to visit.
>How do I get tickets to the sympoxium? Is there a web site?
>Gosh, Thanks,

hey Angela,
nceca has a website:
http://nceca.net/
you can register online too.
marta

Michele Williams on thu 21 feb 02


Joyce,

I wasn't considering the posts about the NCECA because
I didn't know it's in KC. I'm from KC and my mom is
still there. I haven't been back since 1992 and would
love to go. She always visits us because paying for
her one ticket (1) is so much cheaper than paying for
our four (4!) to visit her. This could be just the
excuse I need to push me onto that plane myself....

When is this conference, and is there a website I can
check?

Michele Williams
Newbie to ceramics, Clayart, etc.

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Joyce Lee on thu 21 feb 02


Thank you to all who helped clarify some issues that numerous lurkers =
have pondered. And, to clear the air IF it needs clearing, Doug's =
right... I was only the messenger. One of my joys on Clayart is being =
able to speak for potters who have much to say, and many questions to =
ask, but who hesitate .... for a variety of reasons ... to speak up. =
Often reading their words on my posts..... and then reading all the =
kindly, considerate responses .... hithers them out of Lurkdom. =20

You can bet I'll be on a series of three airplanes, which will transport =
me from the desert to KC in order to attend my 4th NCECA. I am at least =
as excited as any of you at the opportunity once again to =
mingle&listen&watch&laugh&breathe pots and potters for two days before =
heading back .... ending with the Vomet Comet, which will hucketybuckety =
me through the desert winds to within 2 miles of our scrub acreage.

I hope to see as many of you as possible. Bring pictures of your work!

Joyce
In the Mojave

Dale Cochoy on wed 27 feb 02


I'm still horsing around about going. I know it's increased in price this
late. Can you pay at the door to register, and how about side tours. Can
you pay "There"?

Dale Cochoy

Ron Collins on thu 7 mar 02


It has been harder than I thought to get slides ready, since I am assuming
that you can't use a CD or digital photos for the international
presentation, I am assuming that they need hard copy slides. So, I won't be
able to do it, which is unfortunate...I look forward to seeing your
presentation, and am ready to heckle....Melinda

Earl Brunner on thu 14 mar 02


My friend that kept me up Tuesday night until 2:00am before our drive to
the airport at 5:30am. Snores like buzz saw and somehow got the alarm
clock in our room to go off at about 5:30 this morning, kept hitting
snooze alarm every 5 minutes for a half an hour until I gave up and got
up. Warren McKenzie was recognized last night with a lifetime ceramic
educator's award. Well deserved. Today I've hungout in the vendors
exhibits (my next best favorite place outside of the ClayArt room. My
favorite part of NCECA is the people, most who I don't see very often.
I don't get much from the presentations, at least in the sense of coming
away from NCECA with all this new knowledge. But I do get energized. I
sometimes feel kind of isolated out in Las Vegas, sure there are other
potters around, but I don't see them that often and we really don't do
much together. I like the people and the exhibits, just seeing all the
pots. You look at all those pots and you think, "This is why I do
clay." Why did they ever have NCECA in Las Vegas anyway? In the last 6
years all of the other places I've been to have so much more going on
clay wise.

Tonight we are having the ClayArt slide show. Las year this was really
great, I think we get a bigger room for it this year. Hope so, No way
we are going to get all those people into the current room.

Earl Brunner
mailto:bruec@anv.net
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec

Earl Brunner on thu 14 mar 02


I've got an idea, I'm going to take my laptop to the Clayart room and
see if anyone wants to send a message to Clayart.

Earl Brunner
mailto:bruec@anv.net
http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec

Judith I. Marvin on thu 14 mar 02


Hope you are all having an amazingly wonderful time. Will join you next
year. Soak it all up and share when you get home. Judith


>From: Earl Brunner
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: NCECA
>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:19:05 -0800
>
>I've got an idea, I'm going to take my laptop to the Clayart room and
>see if anyone wants to send a message to Clayart.
>
>Earl Brunner
>mailto:bruec@anv.net
>http://coyote.accessnv.com/bruec
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Ann Semple on fri 15 mar 02


>>Louis=92 Katz=92s fire organ performance was amazing<just jealous. Now I'm irrationally jealous. I would love to see this!!=20
Ann=20
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Rikki Gill on fri 22 mar 02


Since my return, I have been trying to formulate something for the list
about my feeling and impressions, but it is impossible. I just had a
glorious time. Even better than last year. So many wonderful new
clayarters that I won't name people, too many and I would hate to miss
anyone. People I met last year who were dear old friends by this year. =
An
amazing experience, becouse of the almost universal feeling of good will
toward all. A few people with " =E4ttitudes", not many, mainly just a l=
arge
group with a lot in common wanting to have a lot of fun and share with l=
ike
minded others. Also great ceramics everywhere, in the demos, lectures,
galleries, museum, slide shows, and informal advice from our gurus. Such
generosity. So lovely. Rikki

Ronda Clark on tue 17 sep 02


Could someone please tell me the dates in March for NCECA in San Diego?
Thanks
Ronda

Gregory Evans on wed 18 sep 02


NCECA 2003, 37th Annual Conferenc
San Diego, CA, March 12-15.
Onsite Conference Liaison, Local Ceramic Art Exhibition Information:
Richard Burkett, San Diego State University, 619-594-6201,
richard.burkett@sdsu.edu.
Manufacturers,suppliers and non-profit exhibits and conference poster:
NCECA, (866) CO NCECA (266-2322),

Barbara Brown on thu 19 sep 02


Dear Clayarters,
It seems that forwards don't forward on clayart so I will retype the
information. Get your room reservation made soon as this is going to be
a really big NCECA and the hotel will fill up fast. On the Town &
Country website you can print out a layout of the area that will show
you where the rooms are. The poster from NCECA will be out in Dec and it
has the conference registration form on it.
Barbara

NCECA
National Council on Education for the Ceramic Arts
phone 866-266-2322
website www.nceca.net
The 2003 NCECA conference being held in San Diego, Ca March 12-15, 2003
It will be at the Town & Country Resort Hotel and Convention Center
500 Hotel Circle North, San Diego, Ca 92108
Reservations 800-772-8527
website www.towncountry.com
NCECA room rates:
garden room $120
east tower and courtyard $130 west tower $140

NCECA conference rates
US regular $170
Canadian regular $175
International regular $185
US student $115
Canadian student $120
International student $130

Barbara Brown phone/fax 408-736-3889
1225 Manzano Way,Sunnyvale,Ca. 94089
http://www.silverhawk.com/crafts/bbrown97
email: bbrown3@webtv.net

Chris Rupp on fri 18 oct 02


I have never been to NCECA, but since it is about four hours from my home
this year, I am thinking of maybe going. However, I am interested from a
collecting standpoint. I was told they have a cup auction and there is a lot
of work there to be sold. Are there any other events that sell work or do
any potters sell work at NCECA? How about pricing, do pieces generally sell
for more than usual? Less? The same?
Do the workshops cost more, above and beyond buying admission to NCECA? Once
you have your admission are all events included?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Chris Rupp
Sunny Santa Barbara


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Russel Fouts on sat 19 oct 02


Chris,

>> I have never been to NCECA, but since it is about four hours from my home this year, I am thinking of maybe going. However, I am interested from a collecting standpoint. I was told they have a cup auction and there is a lot of work there to be sold. Are there any other events that sell work or do any potters sell work at NCECA? How about pricing, do pieces generally sell for more than usual? Less? The same? <<

Plenty of exhibitions, sales, chances to buy, sell and trade pots.

I you make pots bring something for the Clayart "thing" echange. You
might get lucky and draw a Marta or some other wonderful Clayarter. Or
EVEN the Clayart Elvis!

Heck, even if you don't make, bring something from your collection. I'll
trade you one of mine for an Otto Heino or whoever. ;-)

What I said earlier goes for you to, if you have an album of your
collection (documentation) bring it, we'd all like to see. Some of my
collection can be seen on my website (http://www.mypots.com) on the
Clayart Show Window Page.

Russel

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annsemple on sat 19 oct 02


I have my flight booked and I have a room booked.
I'm going!!
(anyone want to share a room - preferably female)


Ann -in the south west regions of Vancouver Island off the coast of British
Columbia, Canada, surrounded by evergreens, clean air, two muddy messy
dogs and two demented cats.
annsemple@shaw.ca

barbara arner on sun 20 oct 02


Are there any clayarters going to NCECA this year in San Diego? I'm itching to go away and it looks like a nice opportunity to do so. Has anyone heard of what type of lectures will be given? Just thoughts in advance...
-barbara

Richard G. Ramirez on sun 20 oct 02


Hello All!,
I will be attending this year's NECEA Confernence, the wife might come
too!, would like to meet as many as possibly, unlike our pots, we can't go
on for ever, so this would be a great opportunity to touch you all, or as
many as possible. Talk you all later, Richard G, Ramirez, "The Clay
Stalker".
----- Original Message -----
From: "barbara arner"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 12:57 PM
Subject: NCECA


> Are there any clayarters going to NCECA this year in San Diego? I'm
itching to go away and it looks like a nice opportunity to do so. Has anyone
heard of what type of lectures will be given? Just thoughts in advance...
> -barbara
>
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beverly blitzer on sun 20 oct 02


HI, I am going to NCECA also and bringing the hubby. We are going a bit
earlier to enjoy the rest of San Diego. I heard that there are usually
workshops before the conference as well. Does this usually work out even if
the spouse is not a potter but a great supporter? Those of you who are going
for the umteenth time could advise us newbies about swaps and things. How
many mugs (things) do you usually bring to swap? How much more luggage do
you bring home than bring there? Are the workshops included in the price of
the conference? Do you pre-register or just hope there are openings in the
ones you would like to go to? Any other info is greatly appreciated. Glad
to hear there is a Clayart room. See you there.

Bev Blitzer
thepotter@cox.net
Wickford, RI

don hunt on mon 21 oct 02


Andi in San Diego,

Is CASD the same as the Potter's Guild? I was hoping to get a chance to
jury in as a member, to sell at their shows and so forth, but
unfortunately they aren't accepting new members again. Any advice?

Don Hunt (in San Diego)

Andi Bauer on mon 21 oct 02


>I was told they have a cup auction and there is a lot
>of work there to be sold. Are there any other events that sell work or do
>any potters sell work at NCECA? How about pricing, do pieces generally sell
>for more than usual? Less? The same?

Chris, CASD (Ceramic Artists of San Diego) is having a show that will be
ongoing during the NCECA festivities and items will be for sale. I believe
that for our show, people will set their own prices, so I have no
idea whether they will be at or above usual prices. I believe that the
show will also be on the bus tour, as it is going to be held at one of the
large buildings at Balboa Park.

Andi in San Diego





Andi Bauer
619-543-3758

email: mailto:acody@ucsd.edu

Rebecca Knight on tue 3 dec 02


For those of you traveling to San Diego for NCECA and who haven't purchased
airline tickets yet, Southwest appears to have tickets from just about
everywhere for $94 or less, one way, for this week's internet special. Go
to http://www.southwest.com and select CLICK 'N SAVE INTERNET SPECIALS.

Don't know if these are the cheapest fares to be found, but flying from
Chicago to San Diego for $200 seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Donald Goldsobel on thu 16 jan 03


.
I have a $130 room at Town and Country for March 12, 13 and 14 and =
would
like to share the room with another potter.

I am attending the Malocm Davis workshop at Nottingham Center for the =
Arts
during the 4 days prior to NCECA and have a room at the near by Ramada.
That is about half the cost per night. I would be willing to share that =
as
well. I'll be traveling down from the San Fernando Valley.

Contact me off line or att 818 348 1772

Donald Goldsobel

Barbara Brown on thu 6 mar 03


Hi Clayarters,
1. I am making lots of the ceramic postage stamp magnets again this
year and they will be in the clayart room. Please help yourself to as
many as you want as a free gift from me. I also made a few bookmarks
this year.
2. I will not be working the Intl Slide Show sign up table on Wed this
year. I have done this job for 5 years and will really miss meeting and
helping the Intl ceramic artsts that come to NCECA.
Look forward to seeing everyone.
Barbara

Barbara Brown phone/fax 408-736-3889
1225 Manzano Way,Sunnyvale,Ca. 94089
http://www.silverhawk.com/crafts/bbrown97
email: bbrown3@webtv.net

Earl Brunner on sat 15 mar 03


Just got home from San Diego, NCECA was great as usual. As always the
best part of it for me was the people and especially all of the friends
that I've come to know through ClayArt over the years (and that
includes all you guys that I sometimes disagree with). It was really
great to see those that I often only get to see at NCECA and to meet for
the first time those whom I have never met.

Earl Brunner
bruec@anv.net

Vince Pitelka on sun 16 mar 03


This was a great NCECA, but unfortunately, I got hit with the flue right =
after arriving in LA a week ago Wednesday. I get sick about once every =
five years, always at the worst possible time. It started in my throat =
and spread up and down. By the time I drove down to San Diego on =
Tuesday my head congestion had eased up a bit, but my throat was so =
screwed up that I could hardly talk (whine, snivel, moan). By the end =
of the day I sounded like a frog. So after dinner each day I just went =
back to my room and to bed. I missed the Clayart cocktail party and the =
slide show, most of the exhibitions and sessions. I did get to watch =
the demonstrations a bit, and that was quite wonderful. I really have =
to hand it to NCECA for the professionalism of that presentation, with =
the superb camera work and the huge screens showing the work being done =
by each of the three demonstrators. Everyone in the huge ballroom had a =
birds-eye view of the action. =20

Don't get me wrong though, this was a thoroughly worthwhile conference =
for me because of my Craft Center table in the exhibition hall. Because =
the winter has been so dismal everywhere else in the country, the =
turnout of folks from the midwest and the northeast was excellent. At =
the table I stayed busy, and made contacts with a lot of prospective =
students, artists-in-residence, and workshop presenters. I did get to =
see a lot of old friends, and met quite a few Clayarters I had never met =
in person. I sincerly hope I did not infect people with the flu. =20

Bu the end of the week I felt better, and I was able to make it to the =
mug exhange. I drew a very fine sagger fired vase by Becky Westin, and =
amazingly, she drew the mug I brought (yes, I actually brought a mug =
this time). Even more amazingly, Becky was a student in a workshop I =
taught at Michael McDowell's several years ago. The coincidences pile =
up. =20

I bought lots of books, picked up lots of good information, watched =
Daryl Baird demonstrating at the North Star booth across the aisle from =
my table. It occured to me that he looks a lot like Ron Popeil. As he =
worked the crowd in a thoroughly comfortable and competent fashion, I =
kept expecting him to hold up a Ronco "Pocket Fisherman" or "Slice 'n =
Dice." I told him about this after his demo was over, and he got a =
real kick out of it. =20

Despite being under the weather, I still had a wonderful time, and I =
wouldn't miss NCECA for anything. I'm back in LA now at my sister's =
place, but I wish I was in my little cabin on the ridge near the Craft =
Center. I fly back there on Monday. =20
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
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http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/

Barbara Brown on mon 17 mar 03


I had a wonderful time at nceca. I got Ilene Maher's beautiful mug.
Great seeing mel, Felix, Ian Currie, Hank from Oregon.
The Orchard Valley Ceramic Arts Guild members had arranged to meet at
the Terrace Cafe for breakfast every morning at 7am so there was always
someone to have breakfast with.
Went to 4 panels, all great. Finding your identity(potters who studied
in Japan), Cuban potters, Staying Alive and potters of India.
Sat morn I got a taxi and went to a show/sale at Circa AD downtown and
saw 14th century Vietnamese pottery that had been found in a ship wreck
plus pottery from many other places and then over to Museum of
Contemporary Art where they had 3 pools filled with moving water and
chinese porcelain bowls and when the bowls touched each other they made
music.Loved it. Back to nceca in time to hear Don Reitz with his
message: Do what you love, love what you do and tell those you care
about you love them before it's too late.
I'm off on a 2 week pottery tour of Japan on Thurs so will be off
clayart.
Barbara

Barbara Brown phone/fax 408-736-3889
1225 Manzano Way,Sunnyvale,Ca. 94089
http://www.silverhawk.com/crafts/bbrown97
email: bbrown3@webtv.net

Robert Van Rens on mon 17 mar 03


It was my first NCECA.

Wow.

Even though I spent most of it working (we had a booth, and only two
people), I had a truly great time. Cool mug, too.



Rob Van Rens
at Pine Ridge Pottery in Alexandria, VA





>From: Earl Brunner
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: NCECA
>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:49:42 -0800
>
>Just got home from San Diego, NCECA was great as usual. As always the
>best part of it for me was the people and especially all of the friends
>that I've come to know through ClayArt over the years (and that
>includes all you guys that I sometimes disagree with). It was really
>great to see those that I often only get to see at NCECA and to meet for
>the first time those whom I have never met.
>
>Earl Brunner
>bruec@anv.net
>
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If no one else has said it, I just wanted to say that I was very impressed=

with the overall quality of the slides at the ClayArt slide show=2E I thi=
nk
that there has been a major improvement in the quality of the slides at th=
e
show over the last couple of years=2E I think that we might be able to
attribute at least part of that to the possitive help we have been given b=
y
those professional people that have given us of their time and knowledge=2E=
=20
A big thanks to them=2E Great slides people=2E

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annsemple on mon 17 mar 03


My first NCECA was wonderful (even if I did spend too much money) and I
have arrived home with new knowledge, new ideas and new faces to friends I
already had.
It is absolutely wonderful. NOBODY looks like I expected them to, but that
makes no difference because they are exactly who they are. (brilliant
observation)
I got a beautiful Barbara Brown mug in the mug exchange, and traded mugs
with Billie Mitchell, and Phyllis Tilton, and persuaded Mark Issenberg to
sell me one of his, so I came home with four great new mugs. The conference
would have been great even if I'd managed no more than that.

I know those of you who couldn't go are going to get tired of the enthusiasm
of those who did. Bear with us. It's a great experience. One that should be
repeated regularly.
Ann
annsemple@shaw.ca
oooO
( )Clayfoot Crockery
\ (
\ _ )

Craig Martell on mon 17 mar 03


Ann commented:
>I know those of you who couldn't go are going to get tired of the enthusiasm
>of those who did. Bear with us.

Buenos Dias:

Actually, even though we get the "Daily NCECA Report" weeks after the
conference, I don't think too many people object or get real weary. It's
nice to hear people talk about things that make them enthusiastic. There's
a lot going on in the world now that most of us get REAL weary hearing so
the NCECA stuff is just a-ok with most Clayart No Shows I would imagine.

later on, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon

"Beauty will save the World"........Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Donald G. Goldsobel on mon 17 mar 03


Every NCECA message so far was right on the money. The San Diego venue was
superb. Clayarters everywhere-the friendliest bunch of people I ever met.
After 4 days at Nottingham Art Center doing a great Malcom Davis workshop,
hosted by a gracious Terry Sullivan, NCECA was like the big game after a
warm up. Four days of glazing, firing, throwing and shino, shino,
shino---carbon trapped of course-- and then these great demonstrations by
top potters, lectures by kiln doctors, glaze dodctors--the works.

And today I had to go to my office, leave all my new tools, brushes and toys
in their wrappings until ai haqve paid the piper for 8 fabulous days. Thank
you to everyone who knowingly or unknowingly contributed to the experience.

Donald Goldsobel in the San Fernando Valley recovering.

Ababi on tue 18 mar 03


I wish there was a way to pass some of the information you get there!
Or that NCECA would pass it/sell it!!!
Ababi
---------- Original Message ----------


>Actually, even though we get the "Daily NCECA Report" weeks after the
>conference, I don't think too many people object or get real weary. It's
>nice to hear people talk about things that make them enthusiastic. There's
>a lot going on in the world now that most of us get REAL weary hearing so
>the NCECA stuff is just a-ok with most Clayart No Shows I would imagine.

>later on, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon

>"Beauty will save the World"........Fyodor Dostoyevsky

>

Marta Matray Gloviczki on tue 18 mar 03


i am still unpacked after nceca...
my tools, posters, books are still in suitcase---
my memories are scrumbled in my head---
i didnt have time yet to sort them out...
the opening night in the clayart room was a riot!!
among all the fun was that we could sign up for ABABI`s handbook on
paperclay and a cd he sent from israel for a virtual clayart friend.
hopeful recepients signed up for it, greg, the master of ceremonies
collected the names and it was our very own moderator major mel
who had to choose the lucky number.... "ta-ta: number 6!"
sorry ababi, i cannot tell you who the happy winner of your handbook is,
she`ll contact you, i am sure as soon as she`ll unpack her suitcase!

cheers to all,
marta

Ababi wrote:
>I wish there was a way to pass some of the information you get there!
>Or that NCECA would pass it/sell it!!!
>Ababi

Brian Haviland on tue 18 mar 03


At 02:10 PM 3/17/03 -0800, you wrote:


Please don't stop ...Your enthusiasm is becoming my inspiration.. I live in
the hoosier state so I'll see you all next year..

Brian Haviland ...From the hoosier state,where
spring has finally sprung...









>.
>
>I know those of you who couldn't go are going to get tired of the enthusiasm
>of those who did. Bear with us. It's a great experience. One that should be
>repeated regularly.
>Ann
>annsemple@shaw.ca
>oooO
>( )Clayfoot Crockery
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Phil Smith on wed 19 mar 03


While the rest of the world is doing crazy, I sit at my wheel with my
mind on the experiences of the past week. The friends I've made, the things
I've learned.
Not just pottery techniques and clever uses of tools but of the importance
of art in our lives.
I never imagined there were so many people so completely seduced by the
clay material as I.
Some would call us obsessed.
I prefer to think of it as a spiritual awakening brought on by the creative
processes and the intimate connections between man and earth.
I feel I have found my identity in clay and very fortunate to have had the
opportunity to share with folks who feel the same.
Thanks to all who made last week a memorable one.

Phil Smith....

Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman on tue 27 jan 04


In looking at the NCECA information I was wondering about the tours for
Wednesday and Saturday afternoon. There are 2 in the Indianapolis area,
leaving every 15 minutes on both days (Wednesday all day, and Saturday
afternoon starting at 1:30). There is a longer tour to Bloomington events
(the tour lasting approximately 5 hours) leaving either Wednesday at 10:30
or Saturday at 1:30 with NO tickets sold on site. Those tickets MUST be
purchased ahead of time.

There's a lot of information on the NCECA web site:
http://www.nceca.net/conference/cexhibiti.html under "Exhibition tours and
shuttle", but as always it's hard for me to guage which ones to sign up for.

Mapquest thinks it's about a 75 minute drive from Indianapolis to
Bloomington (although a bus is probably slower ).

So which tours look interesting to anyone on clayart who's planning to be at
NCECA this year?

Bonnie

barblund on wed 28 jan 04


Bloomington is about 45 miles South of I465- the beltway around
Indianapolis, and probably 55 miles south of downtown Indy. It is a 55
minute drive from the Indy airport and about 1 hr 15 minutes from downtown.
So mapquest is about right.

Barb from Bloomington

barblund@bluemarble.net
520 West 6th St.
Bloomington, IN 47404
812 339 8476

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie/Jeremy Hellman"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:07 PM
Subject: NCECA


There is a longer tour to Bloomington events
> (the tour lasting approximately 5 hours) leaving either Wednesday at 10:30
> or Saturday at 1:30 with NO tickets sold on site. Those tickets MUST be
> purchased ahead of time.
>

> Mapquest thinks it's about a 75 minute drive from Indianapolis to
> Bloomington
>
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Rikki Gill on mon 22 mar 04


Hi everyone;

I just have to echo the words of others. This year was the best of four =
NCECA's I have been to. The Clayart room functioned beautifully. The =
atmosphere was friendly and even loving. I am not aware of any =
interpersonal problems, and to top it off, the Marriott wouldn't allow =
us to bring in outside food to the clayart room, so 20- 30 people dined =
al fresco, with the food on a card table on the sidewalk. It was pretty =
funny, and I know pictures were taken and hopefully will be posted =
somewhere. Lisa was a bit upset, but it was fine. She did a great job =
organizing it.


The educational side was wonderful as well. I spent a total of nine =
hours watching Lisa Orr [I have spelling issues I hope I spell the =
names right] Sam Chang and Dan Anderson make, put together, and show =
slides of their work. All three are amazing artists, innovative and =
skilled.

Mel was great. His warmth pervaded the whole thing. Always available =
to everyone, the born teacher in him encouraging, suggesting, answering =
questions, making wall flowers bloom.

I returned to Berkeley with my suitcase bulging with the British male =
potters version of the 'calendar girls' calendar. Very attractively =
done, tasteful, hunky guys. If you are local, $10 will buy you one, and =
100% of the money goes to a project benefiting the women of East Timor. =


The party is over for this year. sad, but true. But I can put a face =
with a name for many more people this year than last, and it will be =
more fun reading posts. I really truly wish I could meet everyone. And =
I can, virtually.

Truly with love, Rikki

rikigil@cwnet.com
www.rikkigillceramics.com

Ron Hughes on mon 22 mar 04


Just decompressing from NCECA and thawing!! I was overwhelmed at last year's
and I think I was a little better this year, saying hi to all the orange
dots and connecting names to many posts, I wandered through the clay art
room determined not to have it turn into just an exciting blur.
I will never again look at a David Henley post and imagine a strapping,
and intimidating, huge Texan , but instead will see a sweet man in a
paisley suit (yes paisley). Or will I ever see a Dannon post and not
remember those flaming red curls. And I will remember Jean Lehman's great
and contagious smile with every word she writes.
The vendors were great offering any advice or help they could. Vince, my
ole friend was as entertaining and warming as always, and Mel, as you have
heard dropped a lot of weight but it also looked like he was 15years
younger. Keep going Mel and you will end up as a teen. .
But I have to say it was cold. Ok, ok I am an Arizona sissy, but the
first day after I got off the buses, it took three hours before I could thaw
out enough to leave my room. After that I declared a moratorium on the
outside and stayed in the covered (and heated) tunnels that span downtown
Indy for the rest of my stay.
It is my suggestion that they never have NCECA's any father East than
Texas or more north than Las Vegas.
The food was really good, I think I had one of my all time best meals in
a restaurant called Palomino, a little spendy but great desserts. By the way
stressed spelled backwards is desserts!!!
It was a great time, and I hope all that had to stay home get to enjoy
the next one in Baltimore.
Until then I will put away my coats and pull out my shorts and whatever
little else I can wear and buy some long john's for the next NCECA.
The last thing Mel said to me as I was leaving to catch the plane was
write. Hey I always listen to the mayor.
Nance

Earl Brunner on mon 22 mar 04


I know all of you people that didn't make it to NCECA are probably tired of hearing about it by now. But for me NCECA is ALL about ClayArt. This was my 6th NCECA, and seriously, it doesn't cost much if any more to go from the east to the west coast than it does to the next state over.



I have over the last few years met many clayarters and considered them friends, but there was something about this time that just made it more personal for me. I felt the friendship and camaraderie more this time. I loved getting back together with you all. MOST of my potter friends are now clayarters, either because they are now on ClayArt or because I have new friends (from clayart).



There's nothing like getting together with clay people.




Earl Brunner
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wayneinkeywest on tue 23 mar 04


Folks:
If you can stand one more post about Indianapolis...

I am beside myself. The people, the POTS!, the sense of
community. The joy and delight on everyone's face when
they put (finally) a face to a name. The wealth of information;
not only the sharing (even during presentations!) but the
incredible knowledge passed to us by the "big guns"
in general conversations in hallways, the exhibition
hall, even in one case in the men's room :>)
The friendships I started there will continue the rest of my
life. Potters are good people, and I need more good people
and fewer assholes surrounding me.

This was my first NCECA. It will not be my last.
I am both exhilarated and exhausted at the same time.
And I am happy beyond belief.

I took a bunch of pictures, and as soon as
my "stuff" gets delivered by FEDEX will be posting them
to Shutterfly. I'll post a message then. For now, sleep,
blessed sleep.....for I am undone, and grinning like an idiot.
Wayne Seidl

ASHPOTS@AOL.COM on wed 12 jan 05


went to www.nceca.org and got the Northen California enginering site, great!!!

how interesting..
was trying to find out more about the bus rides.. went to tourdeclay.com and
didnt find any thing that has the bus routes and what to see .. there were a
lot PDF files to download..


Mark

Gail Phillips on wed 12 jan 05


Mark, and others -

try http://www.nceca.net instead.

- Gail

-------------- Original message from ASHPOTS@AOL.COM: --------------


> went to www.nceca.org and got the Northen California enginering site, great!!!
>
> how interesting..
> was trying to find out more about the bus rides.. went to tourdeclay.com and
> didnt find any thing that has the bus routes and what to see .. there were a
> lot PDF files to download..
>
>
> Mark

Louis Katz on wed 12 jan 05


punched NCECA into Google. .......
NCECA.net
NCECA.org does have an interesting "Dirt Exchange" going though.
If you want a long winded rant on why we have the net site instead of
the org site I won't give you one.But, I bought the .net site after
the .org site was taken.
You could own nceca.biz or nceca.us if you want.


http://LouisKatz.net

On Jan 12, 2005, at 8:26 AM, ASHPOTS@AOL.COM wrote:

> went to www.nceca.org and got the Northen California enginering site,
> great!!!
>
> how interesting..
> was trying to find out more about the bus rides.. went to
> tourdeclay.com and
> didnt find any thing that has the bus routes and what to see .. there
> were a
> lot PDF files to download..
>
>
> Mark
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ASHPOTS@AOL.COM on wed 12 jan 05


Ok i get it,, net, org, com, what a mess!!!!!

by the way, i LOVE HBO,, its not TV , its HBO...
If you dont have HBO so are missing some great TV,, just one mans opinion

I also like watching Animal planet, CNN, History Chanel

Just one mans opinion,, also HGTV,, and Food Net also,, when i didnt have
satalite i got 3 stations, one more than one mug left behind,, now i have
hundreds that i dont want to see,, also some times i can watch tractors pulling junk

Mark on Lookout Mtn North Ga

Ann Kenworthy on thu 20 jan 05


email to Nancy, executive director of NCECA,

33Dear Nancy,

I write to let you know that registering for the NCECA conference was =
the most protracted, painful, time-wasting and irritating experience I =
can remember.

Here is the sequence of events that your decisions about your website, =
online ordering, and staff response caused me:

1. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY TO ATTEND THE NCECA CONFERENCE. I =
went to your website, and was promised online registration.
2. Oops! I have to call your office at YOUR convenience DURING REGULAR =
BUSINESS HOURS, WHEN MY EMPLOYER IS PAYING ME TO WORK to get logged into =
your membership database before I can register online.
3. I call and leave a somewhat irate message with Dawn, who probably =
did not make the stupid decision to operate this way.
4. The next day, I spend MY TIME again to call you to find out how to =
GIVE YOU MY MONEY and register for your conference.
5. By this time, when the very polite Dawn informed me of your =
processes, I just should have given you my credit card number (GIVEN YOU =
MY MONEY) over the phone, but I was too irritated to think of this.
6. Dawn took my info down (name, where I live, etc. ALL OF WHICH COULD =
HAVE BEEN DONE BY AN ONLINE FORM) and told me to WAIT A DAY OR SO until =
she could ENTER ME IN THE DATABASE and then I could USE MY OWN TIME =
AGAIN and go online to GIVE YOU MY MONEY to attend the NCECA conference.
7. Today I picked up Dawn's email with my login number and password, =
and went to your website.
8. AGAIN, I had to wade through your forms before I could GIVE YOU MY =
MONEY to attend the conference. I went through four or five forms, the =
most arcane and stupid procedure I have ever been through online.
9. Finally, YOU ACCEPTED MY PAYMENT! And I will be irritated at you =
for a long, long time. And I will tell everyone who asks what a =
terrible experience it was.

What were you thinking when you designed this system?

Carl Finch on fri 21 jan 05


At 11:47 PM 1/20/2005 -0500, Ann Kenworthy wrote:

>email to Nancy, executive director of NCECA,
>
>33Dear Nancy,
>
>I write to let you know that registering for the NCECA conference was the
>most protracted, painful, time-wasting and irritating experience I can
>remember.

Really? Hope I'm not within earshot when you pass a kidney stone!

Actually your experience with NCECA's online registration hasn't been so
different from my experience with similar organizations (e.g., the local
theatrical and music festivals). I figure they just don't have the
wherewithal to install a really slick registration system.

--Carl
in Medford, Oregon

Jeremy/Bonnie Hellman on sun 27 feb 05


I will be driving to NCECA in Baltimore, leaving the Pittsburgh, PA area
Tuesday morning March 15th. I will have room in my car, if anyone wants to
share the ride. Contact me via email (mou10man@frontier.net) if you are
interested in talking. If you're traveling from west of PA, you are also
welcome to overnight in our house Monday night. I estimate the car ride to
Baltimore will take less than 4 hours from my house.

Bonnie Hellman

Marcia Selsor on mon 7 mar 05


See you all in Baltimore. I am bringing a Hawaiian palm tree inspired
mug with a nice celedon glaze made with Southern Ice..very translucent.
This is for the Clayart exchange. I have been off clayart while working
at UH. I have been really busy working on fixing the kilns as well as
teaching classes.
See you in Baltimore.
Marcia

Liz Willoughby on tue 8 mar 05


Hello Claybuds,
Was looking over the schedule for NCECA and noticed that everything
is taking place in the Convention Center, including the dance. Can
someone tell me about "Mama Jama"? What kind of music is it?

Was also looking over all the exhibitions, and highlighting the ones
that I particularly want to visit. A good idea, as when I am there,
there never seems to be enough time to do that. For those that love
wood fired pots there are plenty to feed the soul, and of course also
looking forward to visiting Baltimore Clayworks, Shino, Cone Box,
and Richard DeVore. Still remember the first Richard DeVore pot that
I saw, just could not stop looking at it, at my first NCECA in
Syracuse, around 1987.
Beginning to feel guilty, because I am so lucky to be able to go to
this conference. It is getting so big, almost overwhelming. Was
also reading over the NCECA news, summer 2004, the back page about
the beginnings of NCECA, "The Spirit of NCECA", by Elaine Olafson
Henry, amazing how the organization has grown and changed, and yes it
is like a religion.
See you there folks
Meticky Liz in Grafton, Ontario, Canada

You Must Believe in Spring

especially since here it is -18C that is 0 F.

Dale Neese on tue 8 mar 05


http://www.mamajama.com/reggae-critic.html

The Mama Jama Band.

Liz Willoughby on tue 8 mar 05


Thanks Dale,
I think that NCECA has finally got it right, a band that reflects
rock, reggae, calypso, and blues. Sounds like real dancing music. I
hope that the room is HUGE, well big enough for 3000 hot pulsating
bodies. Am I up for this? Well, I can take breaks........and I can
sit and watch and listen.
Meticky Liz from Grafton, Ontario, Canada.


>http://www.mamajama.com/reggae-critic.html
>
>The Mama Jama Band.

Kruzewski on thu 10 mar 05


I'm all packed and ready to go. I've got a weekend in Edinburgh on a
"self build" - houses, not pots - weekend, back home for a night then
flying to Philadelphia Monday morning looking forward to meeting you
all! Just about to set no-mail and get some sleep.

See you all in Baltimore

Jacqui
very excited
in North Wales

Russel Fouts on thu 10 mar 05


Liz,
>> Still remember the first Richard DeVore pot that I saw, just could not
stop looking at it, at my first NCECA in Syracuse, around 1987. <<

We'll go see that one together. I still can't get the first one I saw out
of my head. Great pots.

Russel (Leaving for NCECA tomorrow, but first teaching a workshop in
Virgina Beach)



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Earl Brunner on tue 15 mar 05


I am here!! It is so cool to be here, seeing clay buds. At the Days Inn we
have free wireless internet. Cool! I've seen so many people already. I
flew out of Salt Lake City and there were a BUNCH of potters on out plane.
Awesome!!!



Earl Brunner

Las Vegas, NV

Mayssan Farra on sun 20 mar 05


Hello Clay buds:

I normally would leave the writing to the writers but
since nothing showed up I will fill you in a bit until
they recover from their exhaustion.

The conference itself I would not know much about as I
spent most of my time in the clayart room and visiting
wonderful exhibits, having wonderful conversations
with fellow potters and of course going to the
exhibition hall and checking out tools and buying
them.

We missed Vince a lot as I am sure you all did miss
his daily reports from the conference as he normally
did every conference.

From the very first day in the clayart room it felt
like home with Mel welcoming everyone making sure the
newbies felt comfortable and David's always beaming
face talking to whoever ( that would be me
:)approaches him and all of us recognizing everyone
else immediately, friendships were reinforced or
started I talked a lot with Toni Smith who is such a
delight and has wonderful heartwarming life stories,
Alisa was great and got us hooked on salt licorice, I
got a couple of shot glass pots of Russel and some of
his wonderful chocolates, most of the pots in the mug
exchange were wonderful; meeting Avril, Jacqui and
Stephen Mills (please forgive me if I butchered your
names but my name got butchered on my name tag too)
from UK was great.

So many potters such great people, Bonnie going around
recording everyone to send good wishes to Vince; Wayne
presenting Mel and Earl with their official moderating
caps:) (Joyce I heard yours is on the way). Dinner
with 30 people you know full of fun and information (
I happened to sit by Tom Buck and he is a fountain of
information, rolls out chemical formula like I would
the name of my children).

And everyone so generous with help and information,
you can tell I am exhausted with my post jumping all
over the place. I roomed with Billie and Diane and
became instant friends, traded with Don Goodrich
taking the mug heawas drinking from right out of his
hands, enjoyed Marylu and her elegance and knowledge,
Kelly looked wonderful in her wenches clothes and her
miniature teapot collection is amazing going from the
size of a walnut to the size of a large pea, and they
all work. Oh God so many things I want to tell you
about, I am sure I forgot a lot of major things I
wanted to write about , but this will do for now.

I hope to see you all at the next one, in the spirit
at least because I cannot go to the next one :(

Mayssan, in Charleston WV which I left in complete
winter and came back to some flowering harbingers of spring.


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Barbara Brown on mon 21 mar 05


I had a wonderful time at NCECA Baltimore. My long time roommate(since 19=
82) from Toledo, Ohio was able to come this year I was lucky on Wed and =
got to go in Bob and Sandy Kinzie's car to the shows. Started with Balti=
more Clay Works and ended with NCECA National. I was in pottery looking =
overload by the end of the day. =20
Two programs were highlights for me.
Robert Pipenberg's Design Elements and Spiritual Principals.
Robin Hopper's The Moving Finger Writes with Susan Peterson, Jack Troy a=
nd Louana Lackey.
The clayart room was wonderful, always full of old and new friends. I go=
t a wonderful free sponge and 2 clay end pieces to make a cutting wire. =
If you were starving or thirsty there was always something to eat and dri=
nk and someone to talk to. Kelly made me a wonderful button of my water =
basin and I had her make me 4 others of my pottery and Lee Middleman's. =
Everyone is so generous and caring. The Days Inn was a great place to st=
ay and the staff very helpful.
Po Zhou and his Chinese delegation invited me to a wonderful Chinese buff=
et dinner Fri eve. I'm going on my 4th trip to China May 29-Jun 18, my 2=
nd time with Po.
Looking forward to Portland NCECA March 8-11, 2006.
Barbara

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Louis Katz on wed 23 mar 05


I agree partly with the comment about it being about the people. I have
spent the whole conference talking a few times, but it is better for my
long term health to learn as well. I enjoyed the Tech talks from Alfred
last year, but the oddball keynote and Randall presentations have often
been life changers. They are fascinating. For about two years I
enjoyed helping to make sure the projectors and mikes worked. Then it
became a bore at best. burnt. I enjoy giving talks, helping the
organization run. I have long running relationships with some of the
vendors, I like meeting them there.
I need to see the shows. I often would rather sit around and talk, but
going to the shows is an important part of my year and I feel it when I
miss it.
Louis
On Mar 23, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Ken Nowicki wrote:

> In a message dated 3/23/2005, mou10man@FRONTIER.NET writes:
> However, for me NCECA is all about the people.
> .................................................................
>
> Bonnie... you hit the nail on the head on this one. I wholeheartedly
> agree!
>
> - Ken
>
>
> Ken Nowicki
> Port Washington, NY
> RakuArtist@aol.com
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Tony Ferguson on wed 23 mar 05


Hello,

I just wanted to say it was such a pleasure to finally meet some fellow clayarters.

Primal Mommy (do you fondle everyone's cup that way?), Carla, (I never met a Mexican Italian I didn't like), Jon (Can't believe you know Bill Gibson!--can we phase into an alternate reality that has 96 hours in a day so we can talk glazes?), Judy (A rose is a rose is a rose...I bet you burnish up dance floors where ever you go), Marilu (My Aztec/Incan/Mayan hermana--nothing like dancing with a Latin), Dale (lookin good man and sorry your bag levitated away), Ilene (wait till you get those knees!), Mark (2 cool to fireman), Earl, Ken, Angela & party, and Snail (How are those heels girl?) and other kind, friendly and creative people whose names (but not faces) escape me at the moment. Also a thank you to Russel for organizing the mini photo shop, Mel and others who coordinated the various clayart doings. Arnold, I am surprised our paths didn't cross. I didn't get to meet other Tony so I suppose I will be renting the sled and dog team and go and visit him and Shelia (if they'll have
me) in Canada since were practically neighbors.

Its nice to meet the people and personality behind the text. I look forward to next year's conference and possibly attending or presenting at a Potter's Council shin dig if it happens before then. Again, it was great to meet all of you. Peace.

Tony Ferguson




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Bacia Edelman on wed 23 mar 05


Some highlights for me won't be dittos of other posts though seeing and
meeting people
along with the exhibits were my major reason for going.
I will share something from a post I received today from Val Cushing.
He is hoping to push for some of the NCECA-sponsored shows to be located
within the convention centers of each city. Let's hope. I missed some
good ones even though they were recommended, such as the Santa Fe group
at the Wyndham hotel. I barely scratched the surface of what was offered.
In a post from Avril Farley, she claimed to be exhausted on her return.
I hope, Avril, it wasn't from dancing with me last Friday night. *_*
Speaking of Brits, I also enjoyed meeting Steve Mills and his wife.
Since I had lived in London a yr. in the '70s and had interviewed some
of the major potters, we dove right into chat about them and he was
delightful and interested.
A very special event for me was the Alfred party, also on Friday night so
I missed the reception of the Shino show. Bob Turner and his wife, both
about to celebrate their 91st birthdays, were there and were driven down
from a retirement village near Philadelphia. Bob and I were very
emotional, lots
of hugging. He had fired kilns with me (I did the night turn-ups
as I lived in town and he lived out.) Also they had invited me to dinner
often when we were grad students, had driven me to the Syracuse nationals, had
put up my husband and me with our first baby on our way to travel from New
York to Italy. He remembered my husband and his writings. We had enjoyed
seeing each other at Alfred parties up until about 8 yrs. ago when he could
no longer attend NCECA. He had tears in his eyes when we said
good-bye. We knew
we would never see one another again, though I had phoned them this year
and can
do so again.
The Clayarters are not only community. We are family. I had never met Veena
Ravhagen (sp?) before, for instance. We chatted on the last evening in
hotel lobby and
became personal in our generalizations, both thinking we were like sisters when
we said goodnight.
So it was with all my other very dear friends in Clayart. (No, Russel, you are
like my son!)
One more name to drop. I am so proud of my roommate who was in TWO shows
at the Baltimore Clayworks, one the Shino show and the other the Cone Box show.
Marta Gloviczki. Go girl!!
That week left me smiling big grins when anyone asks me about my vacation.
I loved it.
Bacia


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Ingeborg Foco on sat 2 apr 05


Now that the highs and the lows of the most recent NCECA have died down I
would like to ask a few questions of those that have attended this year and
past years. I read all of the posts with great interest and I am toying with
the idea of attending next years NCECA in Portland, Oregon. I say toying
with the idea because it would mean closing down my retail operation. After
living in the Portland area for 25 years, I certainly know my way around and
have family and friends with whom I can stay.

My question: does anyone know how spread out the venues will be and where
they are being held? What kinds of programs do most of you attend/enjoy
(what all is there to see, buy etc) While I know my way around, if the
transportation services are lacking (as I gathered they seem to be) and the
venues are spread out, it doesn't matter much if you know your way around.
Is it really worth going.... How much does it all add up to in $$$ and what
do you ultimately get out of it. There was so much positive feed back as
well as negative that I am wondering. If I didn't have to close my shop, it
would be easy to make a decision and go. However, to close for a week
during the height of the tourist season is a hard call. Any inputs are
appreciated. I realize no one can make the decision for me but I appreciate
all opiniopms and thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

Ingeborg
the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
Pine Island Florida

239-283-2775

Gayle Bair on sun 3 apr 05


Ingeborg,
Is there someone you would feel comfortable with to mamage your shop while
you are gone? I would imagine you have enough time to make such arrangements
if you started looking/asking now. When I started in clay I helped run a
studio in exchange for use of equipment etc. It worked out very well for
both of us.
Gayle Bair
Tucson AZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Ingeborg Foco
Now that the highs and the lows of the most recent NCECA have died down I
would like to ask a few questions of those that have attended this year and
past years. I read all of the posts with great interest and I am toying with
the idea of attending next years NCECA in Portland, Oregon. I say toying
with the idea because it would mean closing down my retail operation. After
living in the Portland area for 25 years, I certainly know my way around and
have family and friends with whom I can stay.

If I didn't have to close my shop, it
would be easy to make a decision and go. However, to close for a week
during the height of the tourist season is a hard call. Any inputs are
appreciated. I realize no one can make the decision for me but I appreciate
all opiniopms and thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

Ingeborg
the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
Pine Island Florida

Louis Katz on sun 3 apr 05


Share a room with four five nights Maybe $170 in a conference hotel.
$100 elsewhere
Food. Eat out dinner X4 $80?
Eat out Vreakfast in Hotel? $75 elsewhere? $40
Coffee? MAke a big pot in your room bring your own brew.
Lunch? fast food? others $25-70
Conference Fee $ 180?
Bring salami in your suiticase save on lunch.
If you want good food contact Steve Roberts before the conference. he
knows where to eat.
Don't skip Wed to save money.
Louis



On Apr 2, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Ingeborg Foco wrote:

> Now that the highs and the lows of the most recent NCECA have died
> down I
> would like to ask a few questions of those that have attended this
> year and
> past years. I read all of the posts with great interest and I am
> toying with
> the idea of attending next years NCECA in Portland, Oregon. I say
> toying
> with the idea because it would mean closing down my retail operation.
> After
> living in the Portland area for 25 years, I certainly know my way
> around and
> have family and friends with whom I can stay.
>
> My question: does anyone know how spread out the venues will be and
> where
> they are being held? What kinds of programs do most of you
> attend/enjoy
> (what all is there to see, buy etc) While I know my way around, if the
> transportation services are lacking (as I gathered they seem to be)
> and the
> venues are spread out, it doesn't matter much if you know your way
> around.
> Is it really worth going.... How much does it all add up to in $$$ and
> what
> do you ultimately get out of it. There was so much positive feed
> back as
> well as negative that I am wondering. If I didn't have to close my
> shop, it
> would be easy to make a decision and go. However, to close for a week
> during the height of the tourist season is a hard call. Any inputs are
> appreciated. I realize no one can make the decision for me but I
> appreciate
> all opiniopms and thank you in advance.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ingeborg
> the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
> Pine Island Florida
>
> 239-283-2775
>
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Louis Katz on fri 8 apr 05


Kate,
Thanks for your email. I do not have much to do with NCECA anymore
although they did invite me to a long range planning meeting at the
last conference where I suggested an email list. I don't like signing
up with Yahoo to receive groups. NCECA had good server services and had
some listserv software available, I don't remember which and I think
they have changed servers since then. I don't know who they are using
now.

Last time I left this forum it was after a long stream of people
complaining about others not on the forum. This included the NCECA
board and staff. It was after an email by a member still on the forum
who said something like, "I hope NCECA is listening to this" that I
left. I could not stomach all this venom sprayed behind peoples back. I
still can't.

After my term ran out as an NCECA board member I was asked to stay on
as an ad-hoc non voting member by Curt Hoard. He gave several reasons
for this. To his credit one was that he wanted people willing to stand
up and disagree with him, the second was he wanted some who was a bit
further up the learning curve about computers.

I found that the board was responsive to the few letters and complaints
it received. Quality of equipment and AV setups has gone up nearly
every year since Vegas, although I understand there were some glitches
this year. Some things about room setup have not been worked out when
there are strong unions to deal with. One solution is to rent the hall
for another day and spend more money, something the NCECA board is
hesitant to do . Many of the AV changes were because of a long
detailed letter from Dick Notkin. Some of the details were because of
me. The most powerful member of NCECA is Leopold Foulem. He has power
because he speaks up, every year, every meeting during the conference.
He is a pain, but demands professionalism. The board respects him and
discusses how to bring about the changes he wants.

Buses as bad as they have been have been good as far as I can tell ( I
was not in San Diego) since a few disasters were averted in Fort Worth.
Not perfect, but good. This year left something to be desired, but if
no one with specific complaints gets them to the board and then go on
the buses next year. Its their own fault.

Way back presenters could present every year at NCECA and the same
people did it every year. The board RESPONDING TO COMPLAINTS RECIEVED
FROM THE MEMBERSHIP instituted an every two and then every third year
rule for presenters. Responding to requests from the membership they
continued the Glaze Doctor forum after the first year, soliciting the
presenters themselves because they did not receive proposals. They do
not like to solicit presentations because this puts them further in
charge of what is presented. The tool Doctors which ran for several
years were a member proposal. They continued because of member
involvement. I do not know why there was no forum like this this year.
I am not in the loop. If you are interested ask Jeremy Jerrnigan the
former programs director.

Responding to requests for more technical presentations and a lack of
proposals and a lack of glaze-heads the board went back to every other
year instead of every third year for presenters. This is indirectly
BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED FROM THE MEMBERSHIP That is why Ron Roy
was able to present this year. I am hoping to have a proposal accepted
for Portland.

Sleepy time for Louis

Louis

If you want change and have the power to easily promote the change and
do nothing, do you really want it?

Digest Ack on mon 12 dec 05


Dear Mudbuds,

As NCECA approaches, I find myself concerned with all the tiny details of attending
my first Gathering of the Clan. Hotel reservations. Done. Transportation to and
fro. Done. (I'm driving from Port Orchard--2.5 hours.) Food, goodies, and souvenirs.
Working on it. (Saving every penny I can.)

Now, the topic of registration rears its ugly head. Do I need to register as
an attendee? Where--on NCECA.org? Do I have to register for various presentations?
Again, where?

I'm the type who likes to do my panic dance early. Get it over with, make all the
list and plans, then I'm ready.

Could you Old NCECA Hands please help me to resolve my planning list?

Many thanks in advance,

Tig Dupre
in Port Orchard, Washington, USA

Maurice Weitman on mon 12 dec 05


Hi, Tig,

Save your panicking for two months from now when the advanced
registration discount will expire.

But don't bother going to nceca.org. It's ncaca.net that will be
more relevant for us.

Here's the link to the conference registration page:



Links from there will answer your other questions, as will other
helpful claybuds, I'm sure.

Best,
Maurice



At 12:30 PM -0800 on 12/12/05, wrote:
>Now, the topic of registration rears its ugly head. Do I need to register as
>an attendee? Where--on NCECA.org? Do I have to register for
>various presentations?
>Again, where?

Digest Ack on fri 13 jan 06


Dear Mudbuds,

This is my first NCECA. Perhaps I'm reading the registration sheet incorrectly,
but I come up with a total of $430 for registration (early), and day passes
for all four days ($50, $80, $80, $25). And this is for EARLY registration!

Am I missing something?

What would be good shuttle tickets to buy? Is Clayart planning on a group trip? I do not remember seeing any discussion on this, just the plans to attend the conference.

Do you experienced ones register for all four days? Are there certain days for which
to register that are better than others? What are the collective recommendations?

I haven't sent in my form yet, so there is still some time to make selections and get it in the mail. I'd appreciate any advice.

TIA,

Tig Dupre
in *WET* Port Orchard, Washington, USA

John Jensen on fri 13 jan 06


Tig;
When you pay the registration, that covers all the days; so you don't =
also
have to buy the day passes. The total amount, including shuttles and a =
copy
of the journal will be just about $240. As far as the shuttles are
concerned, my approach is to buy all of them so that I'll have options =
when
I get there. Since I don't know which will be the best, I'm hoping that =
I
can pick up a bit more information and scuttlebutt at the scene.
Best wishes, I'm sure you'll hear more about this from others.

John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
http://www.toadhouse.com http://www.mudbugpottery.com
http://www.mudbugblues.com

Snail Scott on fri 13 jan 06


At 08:00 AM 1/13/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>This is my first NCECA. Perhaps I'm reading the registration sheet
incorrectly,
>but I come up with a total of $430 for registration (early), and day passes
>for all four days ($50, $80, $80, $25). And this is for EARLY registration!


Day passes are for people who want to attend just
one or two days, instead of registering for the full
conference. (They are in lieu of the full registration,
not supplemental to it.) ;)

-Snail

L. P. Skeen on fri 13 jan 06


Yes, you're missing the fact that your registration covers daily admission.
Day passes are for folks that can't be there the whole time, or who don't
wanna pay the freight for the whole deal, for whatever reason.

L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Digest Ack"
To:
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: NCECA


> Dear Mudbuds,
>
> This is my first NCECA. Perhaps I'm reading the registration sheet
> incorrectly,
> but I come up with a total of $430 for registration (early), and day
> passes
> for all four days ($50, $80, $80, $25). And this is for EARLY
> registration!
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> What would be good shuttle tickets to buy? Is Clayart planning on a group
> trip? I do not remember seeing any discussion on this, just the plans to
> attend the conference.
>
> Do you experienced ones register for all four days? Are there certain
> days for which
> to register that are better than others? What are the collective
> recommendations?
>
> I haven't sent in my form yet, so there is still some time to make
> selections and get it in the mail. I'd appreciate any advice.
>
> TIA,
>
> Tig Dupre
> in *WET* Port Orchard, Washington, USA
>
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W J Seidl on fri 13 jan 06


Tig:
John has the right idea. In all the NCECAs I've attended, I've bought
shuttle passes for each of the days and never used them. I usually =
wander
out to the busses and give them away. Makes someone's day. And they're
cheap enough.
Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of John Jensen
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:14 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: NCECA

Tig;
When you pay the registration, that covers all the days; so you don't =
also
have to buy the day passes. The total amount, including shuttles and a =
copy
of the journal will be just about $240. As far as the shuttles are
concerned, my approach is to buy all of them so that I'll have options =
when
I get there. Since I don't know which will be the best, I'm hoping that =
I
can pick up a bit more information and scuttlebutt at the scene.
Best wishes, I'm sure you'll hear more about this from others.

John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
http://www.toadhouse.com http://www.mudbugpottery.com
http://www.mudbugblues.com

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am griswold on fri 10 feb 06


i only just yesterday signed up for the clayart list, first time on any
list, and was amazed and a little overwhelmed to find 40 messages in my box
this morning! cool, though, great hearing from so many clay artists like
myself. what i am wondering most about is nceca. it has always been held
somewhere unreachable for me, but living near portland, or i am thrilled to
be attending this year. a friend told me "the" place to be is the clayart
room. please tell me more about this, and the cup exchange! thank you, i
feel like i have just made 10,000 new friends! peace, am

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Hank Murrow on sun 12 mar 06


On Mar 12, 2006, at 6:12 PM, Tom Sawyer wrote:

> What a wonderful group. One of the great honors in my life is that you
> accept me as a member.

Dear Tom;

Claim.......we claim you as a valued member. You life experience adds
tremendous value to your contributions to the family. I am sorry not to
have had a sit down with you in the room.

Cheers, Hank

Tom Sawyer on sun 12 mar 06


What a wonderful group. One of the great honors in my life is that you
accept me as a member.



Tom Sawyer

Stephani Stephenson on mon 13 mar 06


This NCECA went by fast, as usual.
with too many, too short, conversations .
snow in Portland in March . amazing.
Oregon is my old stomping grounds.
it meant a lot to connect with my old studio partners , friends, and
teachers from
Eugene. Sitting down for a conversation with Bob James, Noel Osheroff
and David Stannard
Some of you may have seen Frank Gosar making brushes and doing demos at
the OPA show out at Skutt on Wednesday.
(Frank also wrote an article in this month's CM and does some fine
illustrative brushwork on his well thrown pots)
Connected with folks from Missoula and other parts of Oregon. That
made this one special.
there were several coincidences which were very odd, yet maybe not so
unusual in this ceramics community we share.
Such a small world. faces from the last 25 years.
My first NCECA was in 1988 or 89, in Portland. It was held in the
Paramount theater. Demos held outside.
I got to Powells first thing. didn't have a great pottery collection,
but ...It felt so nice to go to Powell's again! Impossible to leave
empty handed!

This year I did the conference itself on a day pass, ( finding it
difficult to find a solid roster of presentations which appeal to me)
so I crammed in all my lecture sessions and did all my official NCECA
vendor cruising in one day! I enjoyed the session on kilns of Crete,
Etruscan kilns...The materials session did not deliver, IMHO. Enjoyed
dropping in on the demos .
the K-12 show is still the best. Lee's kids just amaze me, with their
large wheel and coil forms and Marilu's students with their bright
polychrome work. Boxed up and shipped some books home, can't wait to
look into them. Janet Mansfield and Jim Robison's new books.

Spent Thursday in the CLAYART room.
Jon Pacini, accompanied by Jonathan Kaplan held a really valuable
session on clay bodies and materials.

I encourage everyone to take a look at the Potter's Council
Conferences coming up,
One, organized by Nan Rothwell, will be "The English Connection".
Potters from Britain and the US who are Leach trained potters. this
will be a wonderful event. Nan also brings a wealth of energy , wisdom
and common sense to the Council
I have to tell you , the new Potter's Council board looks great.
Potter's Council members. you have a good board along with some good
liaison staff in place at ACERS.
Your involvement is crucial to forming and determining the direction of
this organization.
So I hope some of you will be getting actively involved. The board, the
organization, needs that extra circle of involved people !

I thought the Real Mother Goose Gallery in downtown Portland had the
best collection of pottery. Actually enjoyed their regular collection
as much or more than anything I saw in town. Saw Craig Martell's work
there, many others. Good quality , good variety. Judy , the owner,
loves pots.

I always make a pilgrimage to see the large copper statue of
Portlandia,( http://www.pbase.com/procyon_g/image/27208315)
It was a pleasure to check out her patina after 15 years!
other random thoughts
I am so glad to finally meet Snail and Earl Krueger and Jaqui from
Wales! I apologize to Nan for waking her from slumber by blowing up an
egg. I apologize to Kelly for serving coffee which looked like gnat's
pee and tasted, oh yes, insipid.
this year "the person who looked least Like I thought they would" was
Steve Slatin.

The big surprise was the number of stalwart and 'broad minded' CLAYART
men who stepped forward, quite eagerly, to sport some cleavage for
Vince! Not to mention the brainy, talented, wise, loving, sensible,
sharp, silly and sometimes irreverent wenches, mugettes, and women
of CLAYART . It is fun to see boas yet talk turkey. Seemed like there
were lots of smiles, all around , all week.

Did the galleries Saturday. liked Tim Diggles' work at the Mark Wooley
Gallery. Also found myself attracted to the simplicity and
straightforward approach of Mirabel Portela at Quintana's. Enjoyed
pondering indiviual pieces at the dinnerware show at the Hilton. Found
satisfying architectural terra cotta, quietly inhabiting the side
streets.
left Portland to visit some other folks in the still beautiful, still
welcoming Northwest. Now home.

I usually feel that at NCECA, the conversations just begin. p to us to
continue them throughout the year!

best to all,
Stephani Stephenson
steph@revivaltileworks.com
http://www.revivaltileworks.com

Gari Whelon on mon 13 mar 06


Greetings to all

I am a lapsed member who set the account to no mail a few years back and
never quite got back to reinstating it until yesterday. I did check in on
the archives site from time to time.

I was pleased to be able to go to the ClayArt room at NCECA and to meet many
of the old names I remember and the many new people I did not now. Thank
you for the welcome back, what a wonderful group.

I’ll look forward to participating a bit more frequently but just wanted to
post a hi and thank you to everyone.

Gari Whelon
Proletariat Pots
Nanaimo, B.C.
whelon@isand.net

LindaC on wed 15 mar 06


Thanks to Don Goodrich for the good pics taken at the NCECA

Linda T Ferzoco on thu 16 mar 06


I am exhausted and exhilarated from last week! Thanks
to the folks who organize such a great event, the
Clayart folks especially.

What a welcoming bunch of folks Clayarters are. They
make you feel at home immediately. I loved meeting
all my online friends.

I got so lucky in my roommate, my newfound, long-lost
soul sister, Vicky Hamilton. And to meet Marianne in
person is to be enveloped in warmth - wonderful.
Wayne has a huge heart, no surprise. Jacqui, thanks
for coming all the way from Wales; you are a treat.

Hugs from and to all my online buddies and I missed
some, darn it. Mel, you have a knack for making
people feel at home.

I spent a lot of time in the vendor area. I'm just
setting up my home studio, so it was a great
opportunity to see all the brands. And there were
wonderful demos in some of the booths.

And the shows I saw were so great. I loved the teapot
show at Skutt and the Japanese garden show, missed the
Santa Fe show and others. You can't do it all, but it
was great to try!

Next year in Louisville!

Linda Ferzoco

Jacqui Kruzewski on fri 31 mar 06


Dear Joyce,

It seems to be taking me some while to correspond, which is most unlike me -
but i seem to have been full tilt since returning from Portland.

I just wanted to say that meeting you was brilliant.

Love Jacqui

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Vince Pitelka on sat 17 mar 07


NCECA was delightful. I missed it the last two years, and it was so
wonderful to see so many of my friends Clayart and otherwise. David Hendley
provided inspired musical entertainment at the Cyberclay opening and in the
Clayart room. Nan and Billie did such a masterful job on the Cyberclay
show, and it went off without a hitch. The artwork was very fine. The food
was spectacular, and I thought they had selected a wonderful caterer, until
I found out that they did it themselves. Are they gluttons for punishment?
It was a fine time. I think that many of the attendees were jet-lagged and
a little giddy, but it was a good start to NCECA week.

For the mug-exchange I brought a five-tone blackware-bonfired Precolumbian
locomotive whistle, and my dear friend David McBeth picked that bag. Go
figure. I got a beautiful shino mug made by Sue Beach. The panel
discussion with Mel moderating and with me, Po (from Chinese Clayart) and
Snail went very smoothly. Audience was small but appreciative. Through
some sad glitch in judgement, the panel discussion with Dannon and David
Hendley (the other one that most Clayarters wanted to see) was scheduled at
exactly the same time, and both of them started at the ungodly early hour
(for NCECA) of 8:30.

I had lots of good meals with friends, but one very special meal at a rather
exclusive steakhouse with Ken Nowicki, Alissa Clausen, David McBeth, and
Mark Issenberg. We had altoghether too much fun for one evening, and I had
the second-best steak I've had in my life.

I didn't go to any of the presentations. I had a wonderful time in the
exhibition hall, talking to friends, vendors, colleagues, and prospective
students and workshop attendees. I always enjoy that so much that it's just
hard to leave the exhibition hall.

I spent way too much money on pots. One possible avenue to true fulfillment
and happiness is to surround oneself with beautiful pots.

Last night we had an excellent dinner at the Safron Persion Restaurant in
Louisville, and discovered that Allisa Clausen (who says she has a twin
sister) has a long lost identical quadruplet who is a server at the Safron
(and says that her own identical twin was lost at birth). We took pictures
to prove it. Alissa is trapped in the USA for a few more days due to the
foul weather in the Northeast, but she was able to spend today visiting
galleries. I was pleased to hear that she is planning to eat at Safron
tonight, and will be reunited with her long lost identical quadruplet. I
figure that the family at Safron will probably just adopt Alissa and she'll
stay in Louisville. Her husband will have to move over here from Denmark.

What a pleasure it was to meet so many Clayarter friends for the first time
face-to-face. A special treat for me was meeting Snail at the Cyberclay
opening, and I was honored to share the stage with her at our panel
discussion. You always wonder how much a person's Clayart persona is going
to be evident when you meet them in person. Snail is who she is on
Clayart - very articulate, and intelligent, knowledgable on so many
subjects, but she is also charming and attractive. Her panel presentation
was all consumate professionalism.

Today we stayed in Louisville until late afternoon so that David McBeth
could pick up the work of several students at the NCECA Regional Student
Exhibition (he and I each had two of our students in the exhibition), and we
had a wonderful time visiting exhibitions - so many good ones, so much to
see. An unexpected treat was Beth Cavener Stichter's work in the "Museum
Hotel." What a place. Amazing installation sculpture and other
contemporary work.

Russel Fouts and his work kept appearing (separately) all over town. One of
his bowls in the NCECA National won a purchase award, and was among the
finest pieces in the show.

The Galt House worked out well, aside from them shutting down the Clayart
Room too early on Friday evening. But I needed to hit the sack anyway.
They had very efficient elevators, which is not the norm in large conference
hotels.

I drove up from Nashville and back with David McBeth and David Hendley, and
today I think we talked about NCECA most of the way. Now I am happily back
in my little cabin on the ridge in Tennessee, enjoying a bottle of Bear
Republic Black Stout from Healdsburg, California. That's is some good beer.
The last four days were packed with experiences and memories that will take
weeks to process. I expect that those of you who missed NCECA had good
reasons, but see if you can make it next year. Once you've been, you'll
figure out ways to go every time.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/

Mary V Leither on sun 18 mar 07


Thank you so much for making Louisville such a warm and reaffirming
experience....I'm terrible with names but I will remember all of the kind
and friendly faces I met during my brief visits to the Clayart room. It
was great to match them with the posts. Working alone, not
being "pedigreed" and often feeling like I'm swimming upstream, it's nice
to have the opportunity to mingle with people whose opinion and insight I
really value. My only regret was that I could not attend the critiques or
informational sessions. The MudMats did better than any expectations I
could have had, and the K 12 lesson plan was well recieved. The mug I
recieved in the exchange is a delight. I'm very tired, but encouraged. I
didn't recieve the opportunity to be included as an "official" artist in
residence, but I will still be working with various school districts next
year. I will try applying again to the arts council next year. Mary

stephani stephenson on mon 19 mar 07


still in kind of a post NCECA relaxed yet sleep
deprived state.
Every city and conference seems to have its own nature
, its own form.
I usually try to make time to walk the downtown area
and get out into the neighborhoods of each city, to
get a sense of its character.
So I walked some of Old Louisville's Victorian
neighborhoods and was rewarded with a find , a sweet
old and very unique tile surround , also some
interesting variations on architecture which I found
delightful. A working river town. The people were all
so friendly, waving at a stranger walking by, helfpul,
friendly and with a quiet humour which must be
regional because i encountered it many times.

the Galt house was a lovely hotel, though kind of a
maze..in fact ,maybe because i got there in darkness
and in the rain, i never quite got my bearings in the
hotel or in the conference center or in between...or
rather, i finallly got my bearings on the last day!
one day i swear it took me 30 minutes trying to figure
out how to get OUT of the conference hall and ONTO
the correct pedway....definitely felt like i was on
the gerbil midway!

i was a first time presenter this year and was a bit
of a Nervous Nellie prior to the Thursday presentation
...didn't want to lose my voice talking before the
presentation day and such, and last minute
reorganization....so laid low for the most part,
beforehand...
i did go on the Louisville Stoneware bus tour, and
AMAZING NEWS, this year that bus route worked quite
well, buses not overly full, on time and the shows
were good. Louisville Stoneware itself was a real
treat, with a small but absolutely delicious exhibit
of Asian ceramics from centuries past , and the
bourbon bottle and shot glass exhibit were wonderful .
.also nothing like being able to wander through a
pottery which has been in business since 1814...
walked over to the Mellwood center from one of the
stops on Frankfort street. The CLAYART show was a real
treat..i didn't get to attend the opening but it was
fun and informative and thoroughly enjoyable to see
everyone's work.
So I saw good pots all day Wednesday, a lot of wood
and salt fire..and the wood and salt folks are getting
pretty proficient at wht they do.
the Wednesday night keynote was difficult to hear due
to the size of the hall. I thought it was great to see
Lee Birmingham recognized for his work on the K-12
show and for working with high school programs. woo
hoo!
crashed early and caught up with life with Kerry
Brooks,roomie #1 that night
.
woke early Thursday opened the door at 6, escorted
Kelly to her bed which ,i think she climbed into fully
dressed., then headed over to conference hall after
breakfast. the 8:30 clay body presentation was
Fabulous! those guys seem to enjoy myth busting
....(one of which was that aging clay doesn't
plasticity hee,hee,..just thought i would throw that
out there, maybe for further discussion....)
but a very informative session, if anything ,calling
upon us to take an objective look and get to know our
materials and showing us how to do it ....
then it was time for Marcia and i to go on. a few
technical glitches occurred, some missing equipment
and the inabiliity to dim lights in any of the halls,
which was regrettable as the colors were drained by
the hall lights.
but the show went on. Marcia, instigator and partner
in crime was so cool , calm and collected every time i
saw her...what a pro!

i have to tell you, that it put me at ease and what
also put me at ease was seeing so many familiar and
smiling faces out in the audience, which was pretty
much folks from CLAYART, that is until my eyes glazed
over, but it went OK and the scheduling gods were
merciful oin giving us the Thursday morning slot...as
i could then enjoy the conference...

also I want to THANK Joe Molinaro and his crew...they
did a FABULOUS job , i think, with the program and the
operation. considering this was the first all digital
year.they were great.
problems came up but they were on top of it every
time.

talked way too late into the night in the CLAYART room
Thursday night, then way too late into the morning
like 4 or 5 with Kelly and Kerry.

the bluegrass band thursday night was superb, with
sweet harmonies and excellent musicianship and onstage
fun... even an off the cuff moment with the guitat
player doing a perfect imittion of ralph stanley
talking about doing a lead zeppelin song...(.ok had to
be there.)..but it was nice to hear good pure stage
quality bliugrass ..

the friday AM panel with Dannon Rhudy , David
Hendley, Chris Campbell and moderated by Donna
Causland was a hit as was the panel with Mel, Snail
Scott, Vince Pitelka and Po. the second science panel
that afternoon with Tina Gebhardt, Dave Finkelnburg,
Bill Carty , and moderated by Pete Pinnel was a barn
burner if you can believe it...nmostly because these
odd creatures, who as Pinnell said , do come from a
parallel universe, did manage to convey some
difficult concepts via real down to earth language
and imagery and give us insights in to the fruits of
their research...i heard good things about other
presentations. ..
spent more focused time in the exhibit hall this year,
not much browsing, just got in there and did whatever
business i needed to do.
the dance friday nght was fun too, this year the band
was a funk band which means there was a beat ! and
though i though i was way too tired, ended up shaking
out the jitters and the kinks there!

it seems like every conference is a combination of
seeing folks you know , meeting some new ones, and
getting to know a few folks better.
then afterwards you realize how many people you wanted
to see or talk to , but time and circumstance just
didn't favor it...lots of folks you don't even run
into!

Sometimes you can say a few words in passing to
someone for years but finally get to sit down and
have a conversation with them and get to know them
better
This year there seemd to be conversation and lunch and
get togethers with smaller groups..which i enjoyed.
grabbing a cuppa, sharing food,walking ,in the CLAYART
room, or at an exhibit, these warm and fun or
informative opportunities to converse and share mean
more to me every year.
i won't get into lists, but i really enjoy this aspect
of the conference more and more each year.
. there are always a handful of people who, by simple
serendipidy i get to know better! and the circle
grows.

it indeed feels like kind of like a random yet
serendipitous human ballet/pinball machine.
Even though I missed a lot this year, didn't even
peek at the demonstrations, missed presentations i had
wanted to see.... i had a wonderful time.
had time Saturday to see the downtown shows including
the NCECA national......
and as always, the CLAYART room is a wonderful thing,
especially this year , as there was no other central
gathering place in the hotel complex....
(though i do wonder if anyone else experienced the
elevator from the twilight zone, the one outside the
CLAYART room ,which i THOUGHT led to the upper floors
of the Galt house.....)
mel, , this is a great thing you started,...also FYI,
if you are ever stuck at Midway Chicago airport, check
out Manny's they actually have a meatloaf
sammich.......
well, gotta hit the ground running here back at the
studio
i have a lot of snippets of conversation and warm
memories moving me on...
Stephani Stephenson







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Bonnie Hellman on mon 19 mar 07


NCECA has always been an excellent experience for me, and this was my 7th or
8th, and each year they seem to get better because I meet more clayarters
(including some I'd gotten to know through email but had never met in person
until now) and get to spend time with clayarters I've met in previous years.

Louisville did such a great job with the bus tours, where busses came
regularly, and the shows had so many great pots, that this will be a model
for other cities.

The Galt Hotel also turned out to be an excellent choice. Thanks Dolita and
Mel and anyone else whose decision making resulted in a hotel with very nice
rooms, and an adequately sized clayart area. I loved being able to get to
the Convention Center without going outside.

I still can't get over what a joy it was to hear so many clayarters making
presentations, sharing their opinions and advice. My only regret was that
there was some overlap of schedules so I didn't get to hear everyone I would
have enjoyed. I hope that for next year we have as many clayarters submit
proposals. (I guess proposals are due fairly soon for 2008.) Clayarter
presentations are so relevant for me and it's a blast hearing people I know
share their knowledge with a larger group of people!

I never know which conversations, presentations, ceramics I see will end up
being influential on my work and my life, but there are always those gems I
take away. Often it's having the opportunity to look at others' work and
talking about the pieces with a clay friend. Sometimes it's hearing about
how someone made their pieces or why they did certain things that does it
for me. And sometimes the vendor area is the highlight of NCECA. More and
more vendors are having artists demonstrate, and you could spend the whole
day in that room getting an education.

I loved being with my long time friends and new friends, and despite their
not being enough hours in the day, and the days flying by, I've come home on
a high.

Hugs to all (another great feature of clayart and NCECA are the hugs!),
Bonnie

Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427

Robert W. Anderson on mon 19 mar 07


Oops!!! Earlier post was wrong address. Still
spinning after attending NCECA.
Had a great time in the clayart room...interesting
people, neat pots and new ideas. Received a very
colorful Judy Lee mug at the exchange and survived
a flat tire in downtown L'ville. Thanks Mel, Kurt
and Kerry.

Catch ya later,
Bob Anderson
Antigo, Wis.
rwanaa@charter.net

Alisa Clausen on mon 19 mar 07


Hi Clayart,
Seems very strange to pack up and put Clayart back on a screen after an abs=
olutely real, live experience in Louisville.

NCECA was well worth the trip. I had only intended on staying four days, b=
ut got to see more of Louisville than I had actually reckoned with. 3 whol=
e days more. I was frustrated with the airline, but could not get too bent=
out of shape. I certainly had all of the creature comforts a stranded tour=
ist could want, plus I had time to meander around the city with no time res=
traints.

I think one of the greatest things about NCECA, other than the obvious infu=
sion and total immersion of all things ceramic, is that you just bump into =
everyone you made a mental note of as someone you would like to meet. You =
also find yourself meeting people you know, all over.=20

Trying to find a Kinkos, I asked a person on the street if he was a local. =
He said no, and it took about that long for me to realize that I knew him.=
Well, I knew his pots. That was Simon Levin and I have some of his dishes=
. He knew where the Kinkos was.=20=20

I was trying to find Pete Pinnell at his Nebraska U. table. Why bother try=
ing to locate someone methodically? I ran into him and got to talk to him =
about the things I had been thinking about regarding his Weathered Bronze g=
lazes and his column in Clay Times.

Wondering where the Aussies may be, I also walked head long into one outsid=
e of Starbucks. Hey Alisa, HI JANET! Gail Nichols at the Wiskey show. Sudd=
enly my Danish friends around the corner. Clayart friends from Baltimore at=
the lunch place. And so was the entire 5 days. Just great.

NCECA has a way of making a person feel special. I felt special that I kno=
w so many people. Likewise a good deal of people I came to the conference =
not knowing, I left having met. But the greatest part of it all, is improm=
tu dinners and tagging along and just being a free agent and somehow not ev=
er being alone.=20=20

Vince is right. I apparently have a twin sister at the Persian restaurant.=
My twin (at least the one who my mother noticed at the time) is a brother=
, Max, and Sunny, my other twin, also had a twin, as Vince said. How do I =
know that Sunny is my quadruplet? The night we were eating at Saffron, she=
was so occupied working, we could not get a chance to talk! That evening =
we celebrated 3 birthdays, yours truly, Capt. Mark and Russel. Maurice als=
o had a birthday that week.=20=20

Yes, I will say, quite a resemblence, if not exactly in features, very much=
in gestures and speed. Funny.

Chic gave some of us a tour through her Glaze DVD and it struck me that no =
one before this, (to the best of my knowledge) has laid out basic clay chem=
istry for people who feel that they are not science oriented. Like those bo=
oks, Rocket building for dummies. The DVD plainly maps out that glaze chem=
istry is certainly possible to learn, and it is not even difficult to learn=
the basics. Once you get the basics, then you will understand more and mo=
re in the other books related to the subject. Seems obvious to present gla=
ze chemistry this way for beginners, but Chic was there first. It is like =
basic French. I mean how many times we are taught and can remember how to s=
ay "My name is" but cannot remember how to ask "What is your name?". Chic'=
s example makes everything follow suit in a simplistic and memorable order.=
YES, there are irregular verbs also in glaze chemistry, but after you get=
Chic's basics, you can study those further.

Super Cyber Clay show, with wonderful examples from so many Clayarters. Cl=
ayart room rightfully filled me with the anticipation I love: Talking to s=
omeone and minutes later, reading their name tag - Oh, you are (any number =
of Clayarters names who I know).

I also personally was very happy to spend time with Clayarters who I truly =
admire and got to know them all as people who are nice and interesting as t=
hey are smart and talented.

Alas, the funny, funny dinner conversations, the great giggling and laughin=
g and then suddendly it is a wrap. Unless of course you were trying to fly=
on Continental to NY.
I checked back into the Galt House 3 times, I shuttled back and forth from =
the airport 8 times, and I had so much time to wander around, I even went t=
o the Slugger Museum and Bat factory. Never a dull moment and it was an en=
ormously wonderful week.

I more or less said it would be year 2022 before I came to NCECA again beca=
use I did not want to ever risk again being stuck in a hotel somewhere. But=
, that could happen anywhere, and probably NCECAs are worth the risk. Now =
that I am at least in NY and going to DK tomorrow, I am sure time will heal=
all wounds. I could possibly just bump into you somewhere in New Orleans.

There is much to much to tell, so I will let someone else take the lead fro=
m here,

Best regards,=20
Alisa (at home with my mother in New Jersey)

Pamela Regentin on tue 20 mar 07


Stephani, I think you left a verb out of this sentence and I'm terribly curious what it could be:

stephani stephenson wrote:
"Fabulous! those guys seem to enjoy myth busting
....(one of which was that aging clay doesn't
plasticity hee,hee,..just thought i would throw that
out there, maybe for further discussion....) "
doesn't "lose" plasticity? doesn't "increase" plasticity? doesn't "have" plasticity?

what did they find out?

I suspect it's "increase" but from my own experience could not believe that to be true. I love my old clay and save it for extreme spherical shapes.

Pam


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WJ Seidl on tue 20 mar 07


Pam:
The premise is that aging past 48 hours does not increase plasticity.
Dr. Carty said also that this did not include the possible growth of
organics that might lead to greater plasticity.
All in all, an awesome panel.
Best,
Wayne Seidl

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Pamela Regentin
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:29 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: NCECA

Stephani, I think you left a verb out of this sentence and I'm terribly
curious what it could be:

stephani stephenson wrote:
"Fabulous! those guys seem to enjoy myth busting
....(one of which was that aging clay doesn't
plasticity hee,hee,..just thought i would throw that
out there, maybe for further discussion....) "
doesn't "lose" plasticity? doesn't "increase" plasticity? doesn't "have"
plasticity?

what did they find out?

I suspect it's "increase" but from my own experience could not believe that
to be true. I love my old clay and save it for extreme spherical shapes.

Pam


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Vince Pitelka on tue 20 mar 07


Stephani -
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing as Pamela. If the correction of your
quote from the claybody presentation reads "Aging clay doesn't increase
plasticity," then I gotta ask what kind of dang fool idjit would say
something like that? Must just be someone who likes to stir up the pot.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
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Stef Smalls on wed 21 mar 07


Well I have finally settled down after NCECA....It took a few days to stop
the buzz in my head as to new ideas and techniques to try...At first I was
a bit star struck but a few of you people are quite normal and the rest are
this lovable cast of characters that I just loved to sit and watch...
Mel thanks for all your work the Clayart rooms. They were a great place to
gather and admire the work of the members...Thanks to the members who
brought their work to share...
Logan thanks for the work that you did in bringing us the T-Shirts. (hope
you are feeling better)
I received a handy mug from the mug exchange...Thanks Snail
Taylor thanks for the 75 cents I was able to post the letter and buy a car
back here in Canada...All be it a small car...So if you ever find yourself
short on cash I will help you out...Perhaps a Loonie or a twoonie....
Wayne thanks for the boa...It is my first one ever I may now need to make
changes to my whole wardrobe.
It was good to see so many of the Ronette's from Ron's Glaze Calculations
Class of 2006...
So all in all just one regret I didn't go to Saffron's but the little
Mexican restaurant that I found had great Margaritas...
Thanks to all I had a great time...
Stephanie

Elizabeth Priddy on wed 21 mar 07


Having a baby has taught me one thing special:
you have to pace yourself and prioritize.

For NCECA, I missed most of the presentations, did not see many
gallery exhibits, and have no idea how much I did not see.

The rest of the iceberg will have to wait til next year.

This year, I:

bought all the things I wanted but needed to see in person to
evaluate including 30 good brushes for my students to use here
in workshops.

met boucoudles of really cool people, both in the clayart
room and over at the potter's council booth. Megan and Carolyn
from potter's council do a mean fish dance...

Rachel and other lurking potters really need to speak up here,
because I talked to many of you in person and found you all very interesting.
Taylor and Phil are not the same person. Geezers rule (you really had to
be there for that conversation). Maysson ought to open a restaurant.
Lisa Skeen is even cooler in person for five days straight. Wayne works
too hard and will need all our help soon! Don Goodrich is not at all the
size I expected him to be, he is just right rather than very tall. Several
people I met have had their names munged in my brain and I will have
to look in luggage for cards and pots to get everyone straight.

mel is still a purified mess, as we would say at the coast.

Kurt Wild is a fantasticly attractive person. If I were 30 years older
and he were 20 years younger....I would still be loyal to the husband, but
I would think about hitting on him myself.

Snail and I have way more in common than not and that surprises me,
as I was remarkably at ease with her in person and I feared she would
be intimidating and too serious. I think many others found out that I only
take pottery, craft, and design seriously and all of the rest of life is fair game
for laughing and pure fun.

Met a lot of the vendors supplying materials and equipment for the
conference coming up, people I have talked to many times but never seen.

Up in the vendors exhibit hall, I met Po, the Giffens, Kenton, the Scott team,
Jeff Sandoe, all the Euclids Canadians (why are Canadians so handsome?),
and so many other interesting people that make the things we make things with.

As a designer at heart, it was really exciting to get to discuss the features
and bugs and wonderful characteristics of the devices I use every day. Seeing all the
bits and pieces side by side was a revelation in choosing what I want to work with.

I learned to make a Jingdejen teapot spout and handle just by going by the
booth several times and watching the demonstration.

I may be making a microwave kiln or at least destroying my old microwave
trying to figure it out. Til then I will just fire large.

And so many things I did not mention. I saw lots of art, traded lots of pots,
paid back any trading debts I had with anyone in attendance, got to hear David sing again,
and got to explore Louisville.

The pictures everyone took and posted got me caught up on the shows I missed and
I will go to more presentations next year. I am still not fond of the 3 up demos and
am convinced that the plan I made for our schedule here is better. We'll know in three months.

Off to cuddle the baby. 6 days is way too long to be away from your 2 year old.
Rotton baby...had a good time without me playing with Grandma. Soon, he will not need
me for anything.

I left a lot out, and a lot of people, but it is all good and in permanent memory...

Thanks to everyone I met for all the help for a first timer.




Elizabeth Priddy

Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com



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CA Fisher on wed 21 mar 07


NCECA 2007 was my first one. Have wanted to go for years. Clayart was
the saviour. I knew a few people, Ron and the Ronettes from last
summer's glaze class, but the rest were in written form. With Clayart
there were welcoming people with a shared interest. It was a pleasure
to see the people I've read, see the personalities in a more true form.
The sense of humor of some writers was reflected in their personality.
The knowledge of other's was remarkable. The clayart room was great - a
safe haven. I didn't not get to everything, which is okay. I saw a lot
at the vendors and bought a few things. Walter was wonderful -
humorous. The eulogies brought tears to my eyes, especially Christine
Federeghi (sp?), who was from Florida. Finally found my way around the
hotels and exhibition hall, except the video rooms. Kept following the
arrows and kept messing up. Galt Hotel was great. The mug exchange was
great. Seeing others work was great. Good conversations with
individuals. As bad as some flights were, mine were great. On time all
the way. The next time I come to NCECA I'll now know what to expect and
plan on earlier arrival. Thank you Mel for getting the hotel and the
Clayart rooms. Thanks to everyone who shared pictures.

Cheryl Fisher
Sarasota, Florida USA
claytalk@verizon.net

Gail Dapogny on wed 21 mar 07


NCECA was great, especially because of the presence of Clayart. I
just wanted to say that and to thank everyone I came into contact
with in the course of the week. Such a tonic. Don't like to zero
in on people because it makes others feel left out, but do want to
let Lori Leary know that she was, as always, a great roommate (is
it 8 years now?): patient, effervescent, sweet, and accomodating. A
great buffer for my shyness. You all are wonderful.
Gail


Gail Dapogny
Ann Arbor, Michigan
gdapogny@umich.edu
www.pottersguild.net
www.claygallery.org

Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery on thu 22 mar 07


Hello everyone!

Can't begin to describe how overwhelmed I was by my first NCECA. I
was only able to attend one day (Friday) but had an absolute
wonderful time. Still wound up, still tired, still trying to figure
out how to get rich enough to go to New Orleans next year... ;)

I attended the morning session on making a living as a potter - good
insights from all three - and David was funny as well as
informative ;) My favorite exchange was when Chris was saying she
didn't enjoy doing commissions and did not take orders for frogs for
example, and David leaned over and interrupted by saying "I do frogs"

Got mesmerized by the demos and was there for a long time. At first
I found it a little overwhelming - three potters on a platform
working, with projections of them on screen behind so a whole room
could watch. I wanted to get up close! Didn't think I was going to
get much out of it. But you could get pretty close, and they talked
as they went and as the end of the session came near they all got
into the interesting stuff at the same time and it was hard to follow
them all! Like an intricate dance going on... quite exciting!

Saw some of the exhibits - potters everywhere snapping photos and
overrunning everything. Quite entertaining! And the pots were
something else. Made a point to thank the owner of JanJobe for
hosting the Cyberclay exhibit. So wonderful to see everyone's work,
and it was a great show.

My favorite part of the whole day though was getting to the clayart
room and meeting all the wonderful people whose names I have seen for
so long. Mel was easy to spot, but I was clueless on the others,
(thank God for nametags) and everyone was so friendly and welcoming!
Got a really nice porcelain piece in the mug exchange by Jonathan
Mateck a student at Buffalo State College. It was so much fun
watching everyone in the room holding their pieces in the air and on
their heads and seeing everyone look for the mug makers. Lots of fun
chaos. Wayne apologized for running out of boas, but his warm welcome
more than made up for it ;) So many friendly people! So many fun pots
to see! I was too tired to hold much conversation by the end of the
day, so I just hung out and soaked it all in. And when my husband
turned over someone's mug to see the bottom and dumped the bourbon
out - well only a potter would take it so well ;)

Thanks for the welcome and the memories everyone! It was a good time
and I hope to come again and for longer someday!

Darlene Y.
- getting ready to paint the studio walls and clean up the place so I
can get back to work - finally! Yay! (can you tell I am still wound
up from NCECA??)

Russel Fouts on thu 22 mar 07


>> one day i swear it took me 30 minutes trying to figure out how to
get OUT of the conference hall and ONTO the correct
pedway....definitely felt like i was on the gerbil midway! <<

Carla called it the HabiTrail. ;-)

Russel



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Peggy Perkins on fri 23 mar 07


As a long time lurker, I found NCECA to be one of the best things I could
have done. I just went through message after message of everyone's
impressions of this wonderful conference and I find I was able to put
faces to names and feel like a member of the family. I am not an outgoing
person, but everyone made me feel welcome. I was quite nervous about
bringing my amatuer work to the table, but everyone was kind no one
laughed (at least not openly) at my too big handle or made fun of my silly
tiles. I saw so many beautiful pieces my brain is churning with the
images. Thank you to all who took so many wonderful pictures, I can see
the shows I missed and remember the ones I did get to see.

As I sat yesterday with my box of Kleenyx and mused through an
antihistamine fog I wondered about why we do this. I looked closly at my
beautiful Bacia mug, shimmering gold next to my Flora Gold depression
glass,and thought,of course, to make beautiful things. Or is it the
recognition that we get for making beautiful things? I know nothing makes
me feel better than to someone complement my work. Despite that I think I
would still keep trying to make that perfect piece, even if no one ever
saw it. I guess it's the Clay bug...I guess that's why we all come back
with the sniffles!

mel jacobson on mon 1 oct 07


i am sure we will have record numbers of clayart
friends in pittsburgh.

it is well located in the eastern/central half of the u.s.
and, the number of potters and clay persons in that
region are legend.

i am sure we are going to almost fill the omni with
clayart members.
it is going to be a great nceca.
mel


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joyce on wed 5 mar 08


Liz, my bud, the willowy one........... asked:

"Two weeks until NCECA. Joyce Lee are you coming this year?
_________________________________________________________

I was scheduled and reserved to until today, Liz. I've had "the flu"
twice this month (not March, but Feb.) and the second time has
yet to leave. Given that I'd check in here in the desert at 4:30 a.m.,
have a four hour layover in Chicago, and get back to the cold windy
desert at 11:30 p.m, and probably spend half my time recovering
in my room in Pittsburgh....... I'm listening to my warnings-to-self
and staying put.

IF we were
meeting in Phoenix, I'd go...... I'd drive and everything would be
much more workable. I have a friend who fell in London, had
to be hospitalized and was fortunate enough to be with friends
who changed their plans to aid her. Everyone was wonderful and
she is eternally grateful for all the assists she received.
Nevertheless, her experience gives me pause. Seventy gives one
pause also..... but not much; at least not all by itself.

Sooo I'm doing the Home Exchange which will be fun..... and I'll
work extra hours on my new projects........ new to me, at any
rate...... exciting! ..... so my prospects are not all that bleak.
In fact, I'm going to make that a Good Week, one of The Best
Weeks. Wish you could be here.

Joyce
In the Mojave desert of California U.S.A. where my throwing is
once again improving AND I still have the handbuilding skills
I learned when I couldn't throw for awhile. I am thrilled with some
of my new glazes (again, new to me, folks) and await the day
that my new forms catch up to them. Not there yet....... but
that's the best part, you know? With all the inspiration that surrounds
each of us daily, if I WERE there yet, I wouldn't be for long. Off
we'd go.... and loving every minute of it! My biggest issue is sorting
through all the inspiration that abounds everywhere and hanging
around long enough to make it mine.

Dale Cochoy on tue 11 mar 08


I live near Akron, Ohio and I'm wondering if it is possible to visit the
vendors area without registering for the convention. I think I can get out
there on one day . I really enjoyed the vendor area when I went to Kansas
city show but I can't go for the whole show this year. Too bad, its so
close!
Is there a fee to get in vendors or must you register for the whole
conference, or for a day?
Dale Cochoy
Wild Things Bonsai Studio
Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
DCochoy@neo.rr.com

Marcia Selsor on tue 11 mar 08


You need a badge to get in so you would need to get a day pass.
Marcia
On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Dale Cochoy wrote:

> I live near Akron, Ohio and I'm wondering if it is possible to visit
> the
> vendors area without registering for the convention. I think I can
> get out
> there on one day . I really enjoyed the vendor area when I went to
> Kansas
> city show but I can't go for the whole show this year. Too bad, its so
> close!
> Is there a fee to get in vendors or must you register for the whole
> conference, or for a day?
> Dale Cochoy
> Wild Things Bonsai Studio
> Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
> DCochoy@neo.rr.com
>
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Kenneth D. Westfall on tue 11 mar 08


>Usualy you have to pay for one day to get into the vendors. Just pick the
>day that is the least amount to pay.

Kenneth D. Westfall
Pine Hill Pottery
HC 80 Box 32
Harrisville, WV 26362-9507
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Dale Cochoy on wed 12 mar 08


Marcia,
I figured that and see dailys are $55-75.But it ALSO SEEMS you need to join
for $50 in addition?? Am I right/wrong about this? $105-$125 seems pretty
steep to go through a vending area.
I know that conventions I do, if people don't want to register for the
convention/or daily they usually charge $5-20 to see the display and go
through vendor area.
Dale Cochoy
Wild Things Bonsai Studio
Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
www.WildThingsBonsai.com
DCochoy@neo.rr.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Selsor"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: NCECA


> You need a badge to get in so you would need to get a day pass.
> Marcia
> On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Dale Cochoy wrote:
>
>> I live near Akron, Ohio and I'm wondering if it is possible to visit
>> the
>> vendors area without registering for the convention. I think I can
>> get out
>> there on one day . I really enjoyed the vendor area when I went to
>> Kansas
>> city show but I can't go for the whole show this year. Too bad, its so
>> close!
>> Is there a fee to get in vendors or must you register for the whole
>> conference, or for a day?
>> Dale Cochoy
>> Wild Things Bonsai Studio
>> Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
>> DCochoy@neo.rr.com

Marcia Selsor on wed 12 mar 08


I don't know the details. I usually pay the full price tag and the
membership.
Marcia
On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Dale Cochoy wrote:

> Marcia,
> I figured that and see dailys are $55-75.But it ALSO SEEMS you need
> to join
> for $50 in addition?? Am I right/wrong about this? $105-$125 seems
> pretty
> steep to go through a vending area.
> I know that conventions I do, if people don't want to register for the
> convention/or daily they usually charge $5-20 to see the display and
> go
> through vendor area.
> Dale Cochoy
> Wild Things Bonsai Studio
> Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
> www.WildThingsBonsai.com
> DCochoy@neo.rr.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcia Selsor"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: NCECA
>
>
>> You need a badge to get in so you would need to get a day pass.
>> Marcia
>> On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Dale Cochoy wrote:
>>
>>> I live near Akron, Ohio and I'm wondering if it is possible to visit
>>> the
>>> vendors area without registering for the convention. I think I can
>>> get out
>>> there on one day . I really enjoyed the vendor area when I went to
>>> Kansas
>>> city show but I can't go for the whole show this year. Too bad,
>>> its so
>>> close!
>>> Is there a fee to get in vendors or must you register for the whole
>>> conference, or for a day?
>>> Dale Cochoy
>>> Wild Things Bonsai Studio
>>> Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
>>> DCochoy@neo.rr.com
>
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Gail Galusky on thu 13 mar 08


Dale -

As far as I know, you have to join. You could always call Carolyn Dorr and ask. 866-CO NCECA (266-2322)

gail
-------------- Original message from Dale Cochoy : --------------


> Marcia,
> I figured that and see dailys are $55-75.But it ALSO SEEMS you need to join
> for $50 in addition?? Am I right/wrong about this? $105-$125 seems pretty
> steep to go through a vending area.
> I know that conventions I do, if people don't want to register for the
> convention/or daily they usually charge $5-20 to see the display and go
> through vendor area.
> Dale Cochoy
> Wild Things Bonsai Studio
> Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
> www.WildThingsBonsai.com
> DCochoy@neo.rr.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcia Selsor"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: NCECA
>
>
> > You need a badge to get in so you would need to get a day pass.
> > Marcia
> > On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Dale Cochoy wrote:
> >
> >> I live near Akron, Ohio and I'm wondering if it is possible to visit
> >> the
> >> vendors area without registering for the convention. I think I can
> >> get out
> >> there on one day . I really enjoyed the vendor area when I went to
> >> Kansas
> >> city show but I can't go for the whole show this year. Too bad, its so
> >> close!
> >> Is there a fee to get in vendors or must you register for the whole
> >> conference, or for a day?
> >> Dale Cochoy
> >> Wild Things Bonsai Studio
> >> Hartville, Ohio Zone 5
> >> DCochoy@neo.rr.com
>
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Paul Lewing on thu 27 mar 08


Now that Clayart is back and I'm caught up, I thought I'd give my
take on this year's NCECA. It was a bit unusual for me, but really
fun, because Marci Blattenberger, the moderator of the listserv for
china painters (Porcelain Painters International Online) joined me.
We did a discussion group on Thursday called "The China Paint
Revival". Marci is on Clayart, and I know she's answered a bunch of
people's questions about overglazes and lusters.
As far as I know, Marci is the first serious well-known china painter
who has ever been to NCECA. Like all china painters, she was a
little intimidated by potters and was prepared to be condescended
to. I must say I was really proud of my "tribe", the potters at
NCECA. It helps that Marci is an amazing painter, but she got
nothing but positive comments on the work that she brought to show.
More than that, her work made a few jaws drop that I have not seen
drop in years. In particular, she had a tile with a portrait of a
woman and a child taken from a photo that she'd taken in Thailand. I
don't think many people there had ever seen anything like it. And
she had a little vase that she had decorated with faux crystal glaze,
structure paste (a dimensional material that looks a bit like slip
trailing, but is fired on top of a fired glaze) and gold luster. She
had fired some dichroic glass into the paste also. Only one person
figured out that it was not high-fire crystal glaze.
She's been to china painting conventions for years, but said that
NCECA blew her away for several reasons. For one thing it was so
big. And second, there were men there. And third, everywhere she
turned, people were exchanging actual hard information. She said she
felt like she was at a NASA convention.
I know some of you got to meet her in the Clayart room. She was made
to feel so at home and like part of the family. As I say, it made me
really proud. And she got to meet Mel, who is another member of a
very select group, list moderators.
Marci and I are determined to revive china painting among potters,
and this was a great step toward that.
Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com

Robert W. Anderson on thu 27 mar 08


Hello!!! ClayArters. Had another
wonderful time at NCECA, especially
the clayart room. Good conversation,
great ideas and tips, plus the goodies
kept rolling in. I was lucky enough to
draw Chris Campbell's beautiful porcelain
piece at the mug exchange...thanks again,
Chris. Thanks for the recipes Mark. Good
luck to all. Time to load my flat top....

Catch ya later,
Bob Anderson
Antigo, Wis.
rwanaa@charter.net
==================
http://webpages.charter.net/rwapottery/index.html

Mark Issenberg on thu 27 mar 08


When I had read what Vince said about eating I wish I had followed him
around.. We did eat some great Sushi about 2 blocks from the Westin. I mean we ate
2 big boats of shushi,,

Also Nan Kitchens saw the Zip cars at a former NCECA and got the load down
how that worked. You join and have a card that opens the doors and the key is
in it.. The gas is paid and also the insurance. We used it Saturday I think
and Lee Burningham bought a Magellan so we could find the shows after we got
way lost.. So if any one of you sign up for a Zip car give Nan Kitchens
credit.. Again give Nan Kitchens the credit.. Zipcar.com

I really enjoyed Standard Clay and was able to meet the owners.. I just
ordered 500 pounds of Jack Troy Wood Fire Clay from them. We now have a clay
dealer in Chattanooga. Its Clayworks..2504 E 12 st 423 - 648 -7687 .. She has
Standard and Highwater....Maybe Laguna soon

At the shows at Standard Clay they and coffee for all,, They were great
hosts

Making pots and tile like a wild man getting ready for 4 Bridges a show in
Chattanooga.. Also cant wait to meet the people that have signed up for my
workshop at the Appalachian Center for Crafts, Mugs, Bottles and Bowls.

Mark
Lookout Mountain
VP Potters Council



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marci Boskie's Mama =^..^= on fri 28 mar 08


At 09:31 PM 3/27/2008, Paul Lewing wrote:

>Now that Clayart is back and I'm caught up, I=20
>thought I'd give my take on this year's=20
>NCECA. It was a bit unusual for me, but really=20
>fun, because Marci Blattenberger, the moderator=20
>of the listserv for china painters (Porcelain=20
>Painters International Online) joined me.
>She's been to china painting conventions for=20
>years, but said that NCECA blew her away for=20
>several reasons. For one thing it was so=20
>big. And second, there were men there. And=20
>third, everywhere she turned, people were=20
>exchanging actual hard information. She said=20
>she felt like she was at a NASA convention.
>I know some of you got to meet her in the=20
>Clayart room. She was made to feel so at home=20
>and like part of the family. As I say, it made=20
>me really pro=80=C07/=FF=FF=FF=FFx=AD ud. And she got to meet=20
>Mel, who is another member of a very select group, list moderators.
>Marci and I are determined to revive china=20
>painting among potters, and this was a great step toward that.
>Paul Lewing
>www.paullewingtile.com
>
>
>Hey Paul,

Thanks for the kind words and and for all the introductions.
I had sent in an email previously about=20
NCECA.. but it got lost in=20
the great galactic pit firing that happened=20
on Clayart the last few days.. so Im gonna resend:

This was my first NCECA... and as Paul=20
Lewing delighted in telling everybody :" This=20
is her first real contact with potters." ...=20
Yes, I come from Planet Chinapainting in=20
a galaxy far away ... and wasnt treated like an alien :O)
Alas, I was only able to be there for=20
one day ( and probably would=20
have spent the rest of the time trying=20
to figure out how to maneuver around=20
PIttsburgh anyway . The waitress at the=20
place we ate breakfast said that there is a=20
song about PIttsburgh that says basically=20
:" You cant get there from here" . )
Paul is right .One thing that struck=20
me was that a large % of=20
the crowd was men....Manly men LOL !!...=20
Men talking chemistry ! (WOOO=20
!) an entire convention center full of=20
information junkies LOL !.. .( I was HOME,=20
Mama ! LOL !) . and here I was: Ms.=20
Never-Mixed-a -glaze-in -her- life"=20
, Ms." visitor-from-planet-chinapainting"=20
...yet I was never talked down to..=20
I was treated with respect and=20
was treated to one-on-one demos of=20
equipment ( like extruders=20
and pugmills which are foreign machines=20
on Planet Chinapainting ) and processes .
> There was not one whiff of condescention in the air!
I felt like Lewis and Clark, exploring=20
new territories but ultimately feeling=20
like I was welcomed warmly by a brand=20
new family......like meeting the in-laws for=20
the first time and wanting to make a good=20
impression but not knowing what the reception=20
is gonna be... but finding out=20
that the in-laws love the same things=20
you do and you can hang out and drink beer with them LOL !...

Since it was my first, I=20
have nothing else to compare it to but I was=20
like a kid in a candy shop. I ran around=20
the vendor's area like a=20
headless chicken trying to see as much as=20
I could in the short time I had=20
but thanks to Paul , I got to meet a lot=20
of great people, including=20
Vince and Jon the mad scientist ... Then ,=20
all too soon , we were headed up to the=20
breakout room where we did our session=20
on overglaze which was great .=20
I was really pleased to see the=20
interest in what can be done in an 015 or=20
less fire... and thank=20
you to all who fussed over my things.=20
I truly wasnt sure what the reception would=20
be because most of the pieces were done=20
on commercial forms with only=20
a few forms made by=20
me, but I was relieved to be welcomed=20
into the flock ....and it was great to=20
see Garth Johnson again . His paint=20
balls filled with chinapaint are as far=20
as you can get from roses on teapots .=20
Talk about turning tradition on its ear )
Paul , my husband and=20
I then found the Polish restaurant!=20
Dzienkuje bardzo to the person who sent=20
in that recommendation.and then we headed=20
up to the Clayart room ... where I=20
met my alter ego, Mel ... ( On=20
Planet Chinapainting , www.ppio.com is Clayart=20
.. and I am Mel :O) .... with a little less=20
hair on my legs...........but not much less )=20
... Again, thanks to Paul for introducing me=20
to everybody ... I felt like I had just come=20
home :O) and I got some great lessons on=20
what is shino and soda fired and how=20
nice a piece should feel ....... I=20
was really impressed with the pieces in the Clayart room.
Thanks to Bruce for including a bunch=20
of my pieces ( The Thai Mama and boy from=20
an original photo ,=20
the blonde girl, the vase with=20
the attached pieces and the necklace with the=20
face ) in the clayart room folder=20
on Picassa=20
http://picasaweb.google.com/bglassford and to=20
whoever put up the great=20
slideshow at=20
http://DownToThePottersHous=
e.com/NCECA2008.html=20
.Now I gotta know how=20
the pit fired pots with the ferns in=20
the Gallery on 43rd Street were done!=20
...( Seeing those brings out the latent pyromaniac in me )
I really was=20
unsure about the reception Id get as=20
someone who is just starting to make her=20
own forms and who mostly still works on=20
commercial tiles and plates ... but you all=20
made me feel very welcome ... and part of=20
the family .... and for that=20
, I heartily thank all of you=20
... ( and a special thanks to Paul=20
Lewing who had me trailing at his heels=20
like a little puppy dog ..................arf!)
> Paul keeps saying that potters are=20
> one big family.........I learned that he is right....

Now, please pass me a beer :O)

Marci Blattenberger Boskie's Mama =3D^..^=3D
http://www.marciblattenberger.com
marci@ppio.com
Porcelain Painters International Online http://www.ppio.com =20


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joyce on thu 22 may 08



Does anyone know the address for requesting registration information
for the 2009 NCECA; and, if so, would you be so kind, please, as to
pass it on? Since I didn't attend the 2008 in Pittsburgh, I'm
concerned that my name may have been eliminated from their mail out
list. I don't want to miss a thing since this will be the first time
I've driven.
The convenience of being able to take the pots I need for whatever purpose
will be fully appreciated.

Thank you as always.

Joyce
In the Mojave tickled that my broadband will be installed this week. I had
to let the DSL go last year when I changed Service Providers ....with the
understanding that I'd have broadband within a year. I will, indeed. I don't
mind the extra minutes to get on the net etc, but I do prefer not to have to
wait so long for websites, blogs and all those great images the buds send
our way. They often inspire me in directions I haven't yet experienced.
Helen, you are a treasure!

William & Susan Schran User on fri 23 may 08


On 5/22/08 1:38 PM, "joyce" wrote:

> Does anyone know the address for requesting registration information
> for the 2009 NCECA; and, if so, would you be so kind, please, as to
> pass it on? Since I didn't attend the 2008 in Pittsburgh, I'm
> concerned that my name may have been eliminated from their mail out
> list.

Hey Joyce, try this: http://www.nceca.net/

Bill

Chris Leake on fri 23 may 08


Hi Joyce,

Have you tried:

http://www.nceca.net/

Chris Leake

http://www.leakeart.com

mel jacobson on mon 25 aug 08


again i want to clarify some thoughts.

nceca is not a person, it is us too.
we are a part of it.
so, if we complain, or wonder what is going on,
it is natural. in fact, clayart uses the nceca
convention...then we do not have to have our own.

we use the venues and take from them what we want.
we use the facilities and some of the parties. we wander
the shows. we learn and scarf around. we make judgements.

so. when things do not go well, buses are silly, programs are
ill prepared, lights do not work, slides are upside down...then
we bitch....as we should. we hope it gets back to those
in charge.

same for shows. some are great, some are fair, some are rotten.
many of us speak up...say what we think.

that is not wrong or bad...we pay our dues, we speak up.
i belong to nceca. i am a teacher of clay, have paid my dues for
years.

any of you can run for office or try to get on the board...it is open.

i know what is said on clayart is brought to the board...as it should
be. but, i want fair and reasonable things said..honest dialogue.
it is good for all.

same for show venues. as i said, the shows are made for
college professors to exhibit their work, get exposure for
tenure track jobs and advancement.....and that is good for them.
we should have no argument there. they are not in the business
of supporting working potters, they are in the business of supporting
teachers of clay. that is the mission. we that make pots are not
a part of that mission. we that sell pots are not a part of the mission.
if you are a home potter, firing cone 6, you are not a part of that mission.

so. clayart is what it is. communication about clay...pots, 3d, glaze
and clay. we are a venue for clay people around the world. that
is our mission. we want to make a difference. and the differences
include many forms of clay workers....it is open to all.
mel/owner/moderator of clayart international.
from minnetonka:
website http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart site:
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html

Deborah Thuman on tue 2 sep 08


Jim has the clay bug really bad. He wants to go to nceca. I know it's
in Phoenix, but I don't know when or where. Um... I sort of ignored
all the posts about nceca. Feel free to respond off line.

Deb Thuman
http://debthumansblog.blogspot.com/
http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5888059

Gay Judson on wed 16 sep 09


Did I miss the hotel listing for Clayart?
Gay Judson

Dawn Kleinman on wed 16 sep 09


No you didn't. We need to wait til Wed. We are a large group and they want
everything to go smoothly for everyone so they need to set us up a website.
They want us to be happy. You wont miss the announcement



On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Gay Judson wrote:

> Did I miss the hotel listing for Clayart?
> Gay Judson
>



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Carolyn Boeri on mon 30 nov 09


Anyone going to NCECA? staying at the Marriott? at the Market Street =3D
Hostel? Do the folks interested in making brushes want to get together? =3D
Linda Stauffer? are you going? lets talk,
in the wee wee morning hours, in Vermont, still not cold enough for a =3D
fire, would you believe or am I just hoarding wood! talk about hoarding, =
=3D
I think I will take the wood-firer on NPR seriously and save as many =3D
Chrismas trees as I can for the spring firing. I like that idea, and =3D
tumble staking some platters and in with the sculptures sounds good =3D
too, maybe next Thanksgiving will be more special with some gnarly =3D
plates holding the turkey down.
Carolyn

William & Susan Schran User on mon 30 nov 09


I'll be there!
Bill

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wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com



On 11/30/09 5:25 AM, "Carolyn Boeri" wrote:

> Anyone going to NCECA? staying at the Marriott? at the Market Street Host=
el?
> Do the folks interested in making brushes want to get together? Linda
> Stauffer? are you going? lets talk,
> in the wee wee morning hours, in Vermont, still not cold enough for a fir=
e,
> would you believe or am I just hoarding wood! talk about hoarding, I thin=
k I
> will take the wood-firer on NPR seriously and save as many Chrismas trees=
as I
> can for the spring firing. I like that idea, and tumble staking some plat=
ters
> and in with the sculptures sounds good too, maybe next Thanksgiving will=
be
> more special with some gnarly plates holding the turkey down.
> Carolyn

irene lawson on thu 28 jan 10


I have reserved a room at the Clayart rate at the Marriott. I have just =
=3D
made plans to share a room with someone else so I will not be needing =3D
it. It is reserved in my name from Wed thru Sun. =3D20

If someone would like to take this reservation I will be happy to give =3D
you the particulars. Please contact me off list.

If I don't get a response in a couple of days I will be posting on the =3D
"Who's going to NCECA" group site on Facebook...

Thanks

Irene Lawson
custerlawsons@msn.com

Peggy Thompson on mon 15 feb 10


What about all those colleges where the prof gets a very few
memberships and the
Kids talebtirnsbusing them?
Teaches a great moral code doesn' t it? See it widely practiced as
there are no photos on them .

Mayssan Farra on wed 24 mar 10


Hello All:

Being my normal self in voicing an opinion, when NCECA sent me information =
about the elections. I sent a reply stating how I felt about being left out=
of the voting process just because I was not attending although I am a mem=
ber.

I got an Email from Keith Williams, president elect, a very nice long perso=
nal letter that explained about the NCECA constitution and how they are wor=
king to change it and bring it into the 21st century as it should be. So if=
you, who are going to NCECA would please go and vote for the new by-laws e=
very thing would be changed.

He also told me in a follow up letter that the timing for NCECA has been ch=
anged to never again conflict with any major holiday, like Easter or Passov=
er. Although now I wonder what about Hanukkah and Ramadan and Kwanzaa or wh=
atever else;)

Any way I thought it was great of him to pay attention to one little person=
at such a busy time. I appreciated that and wanted to share the good news.



Mayssan Shora Farra

http://www.clayvillepottery.com

http://clayette.blogspot.com

Veena Raghavan on wed 7 apr 10


Hi Elizabeth,

I am sorry I had to miss most of your demo. I saw the first part and at
least have an understanding of what a good brush will do. Also got a little=
of
your information about the underglazes you are using. I look forward to you=
r
next video, which will be a introduction to the one I already have from
you.

I had not realized that you came across as very stern! Glad you were able
to sort that out! I do not know if I will make it to Tampa but, if I do, I
look forward to seeing you demo in the Clayart room and at Amaco. I will no=
t
miss it the next time around.

Thank you for sharing your skills and expertise.

Linda's brush-making demo was great. I am now inspired to try and make my
own brushes. Thank you Linda.

Snail's demo of how to make a loop tool was also great, and I am just
waiting for my next used-up Sharpie to make my first tool. Thank you Snail.

All the best.

Veena


In a message dated 4/7/2010 10:40:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
priddyclay@YAHOO.COM writes:
>
> My goal is tog et color back into the mix for potters turned off by
> historically toxic sources of color and/or the unpredictability of glaze =
color
> applications. With my method, you can paint as if you are using watercol=
or
> or acrylic paint and get bright, beautiful results. I will be in Tampa n=
ext
> year and hope to show in the clayart room as well as demos with Amaco in
> the vendors area.
>
> I am making a new DVD that covers the basics of color application and
> mixing with basic brush handling and use. For everyone that has the brus=
h
> painting dvd, it will cover the basics, like grip on the brush and basic =
color
> mixing. I did not realize how many people have been working on other
> aspects of art and who had not been trained on color theory. But with gl=
aze as
> your primary color media, color mixing would not really help you, so I am
> on it.

VeenaRaghavan@cs.com

Elizabeth Priddy on wed 7 apr 10


I would like to thank everyone for coming to the the brush work discussion =
in the Clayart room. When I saw that it was up next to Gross's keynote, I =
assumed there would be light turnout. I was really surprised and so glad t=
o know people are interested in this.

My goal is tog et color back into the mix for potters turned off by histori=
cally toxic sources of color and/or the unpredictability of glaze color app=
lications. With my method, you can paint as if you are using watercolor or=
acrylic paint and get bright, beautiful results. I will be in Tampa next =
year and hope to show in the clayart room as well as demos with Amaco in th=
e vendors area.

I am making a new DVD that covers the basics of color application and mixin=
g with basic brush handling and use. For everyone that has the brush paint=
ing dvd, it will cover the basics, like grip on the brush and basic color m=
ixing. I did not realize how many people have been working on other aspect=
s of art and who had not been trained on color theory. But with glaze as y=
our primary color media, color mixing would not really help you, so I am on=
it.

I know a few of you who came to see the demo (Maurice!) came in part to fin=
d out if I was as stern as you thought from reading my writing on clayart. =
I hope you were surprised. I love working with people and could not imagi=
ne wanting to learn from anyone as stern or humorless as some people have a=
ssumed I am. While it was kind of weird to find that there is an "idea of =
Elizabeth" that is in sharp contrast to the me in person who, I am told, is=
fun, it is good to know that I am not qu8ite the nun with a ruler that I c=
ome off as. I will work on being more friendly.

To that end, I chastised our most recent turd-artist and was horrified to l=
earn that I was thought by at least one to be making a serious comment abou=
t his health. I have got to work on this! But I hold the line at emoticon=
s. I simply won't go there as I always feel fake when I use them. They ar=
e handy and I applaud people who can use them authentically. Sort of like =
people who can play by ear. That would be awesome, but I can't do it.

I Planned on paying one day for NCECA and going to the vendors and Marci an=
d Paul's breakout session. I got to talk with them for about 2 hours wedne=
sday night and realized that I just need to go visit the vendor I had wante=
d to talk to, so when I found a chinese art supply store in chinatown about=
2 blocks from the hotel, I decided to spend the money there.

I met up with Tony and Kelly and saw about a couple of shows and got the pl=
easure of looking at some pots with Tony. While I will still argue with bo=
th of them as the need presents itself, I am glad to know that they know th=
e sound of my voice now and know that a laugh is not far from the surface. =
I have a picture of me and Kelly giving Tony a kiss on the cheek on the ca=
useway in front of the giant Hard Rock guitar. That picture is one of the =
least likely and most fun snaps from my trip.

The clayart room was a delight. I saw Snail's tool demo and came home to r=
ecover a recent wiper blade from the trash and have already put it to good =
use.

I also enjoyed Arnold Howard's kiln and controller demo. I hope he is able=
to follow through with the kiln first aid kit idea. People who own tools =
already do not know the anxiety of people who do not repair things of elect=
rical nature. Look for it and hound him a little. It is a kit that would =
have all the replacement electrical components for a standard controller an=
d the simple needle nose and stripper tools needed for simple repairs. He =
is a great guy, too.

I met up with Phil and Lori and Rachel and Dolita and Marci and Paul and Do=
n and Maurice and about 30 other people that I need to know their names now=
that I know their faces. I would name drop if I could, but I am the absol=
ute worst in the world for knowing a face and name independently and not be=
ing able to match them in my head.

I am posting a group clayart shot on my facebook page so feel free to go in=
and tag yourself.

I didn't make the Tobin party. Instead, I had dinner with some lovely peop=
le at the Brazilian steakhouse. I have enjoyed the pictures and movie and =
first hand reports, but I wouldn't give up my dinner companions for anythin=
g! I also got in a few more shows that evening. I was only there for two d=
ays proper, as I left friday morning. I hate that I missed Linda's brush m=
aking session. I was in a shuttle coming from the airport for an hour past=
the start of the session.

And thanks especially for mel. Considering his recent health adventures, I=
would understand entirely if he had to bow out and let it handle itself. =
Kudos for his dedication, I hope he is resting now.

Again thanks for the support at the demo and please just ask if you missed =
anything and I can help.


- ePriddy

Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA

http://www.elizabethpriddy.com

marci Boskie's Mama =3D^..^=3D on wed 12 jan 11


> William Schran said:
>
>I might also suggest the vendors hall as a meeting place.
>In the back they usually have several tables set up to sit and rest.
>A Clayart flash crowd!


Only problem with that is you d have to buy a pass for that day or
you cant get into the vendors room .
Im planning on just getting a one day pass for Thursday ...
marci the chinapainter

Subscribe Clayart Dana on wed 12 jan 11


Hi! I usually lurk here but thought i would add myself to the list of tho=
=3D
se attending=3D20
the NCECA Tampa. I am also going on the Cruise after.=3D20

dana

Stef Smalls on wed 12 jan 11


I am in! and bringing some friends one a longtime clayarter and a newbie to=
NCECA...It is sure a whole lot of fun sharing someones first time to NCECA=
..I am also hoping that we can find a place to meet and chat perhaps a rest=
aurant in the area with a meeting room. If we all order a drink or some mun=
chies to share. What about something in the common areas of the conference =
center? Do we have anyone on the ground in Tampa who would check some of th=
is stuff out for us...We need to make this happen we owe Mel.He can be our =
guest for a change.Stef

Johnnie Johnson on thu 13 jan 11


I'll be attending this year too. Have attended 4 times over the years. Th=
=3D
is=3D20
year I'm attending as a vendor!

We'll be in booth #503 with a new line of ^6 AND ^06 food tested glazes=3D2=
0=3D

called Southern Skies. Reds(real reds), yellows, tangerine, blues, purple=
=3D
s 12=3D20
colors in each temperature range. Bright colors for a change.

Lots of free stuff too!=3D20

So feel free to stop by.

Mud Bucket Pottery
www.mudbucketpottery.com
johnniej@mudbucketpottery.com
843-399-8702 Studio
843-340-1674 Cell (when it works!)

Fisher Cheryl on sat 12 mar 11


For those of you going to NCECA there will be a Degas exhibit at the =3D
Tampa Museum of Art. It runs through June 19th so should be running =3D
while you are there.

=3D
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/degas-exhibit-opens-at-tampa-mu=
=3D
seum-of-art/1156976

Cheryl Fisher
potterytalk@verizon.net
Sarasota, FL USA=3D

William & Susan Schran User on fri 1 apr 11


Returned home Friday, have all day class on Saturday.

Want to thank all my Clayart buds for making this a very enjoyable NCECA.

Best parts of the experience always seem to be the conversations away from
where everything is going on.

Had wonderful time with Mel as my roomy.
We share many things in how we approach life.
I was honored to be included in discussions with NCECA and I will allow Mel
to report on our progress in conversations with them.

I appreciate those who attended our presentation on ^6 reduction glazes in
the Clayart room. If I fail to send you the information I promised, please
remind me.

I'm already looking forward to Seattle.

Bill

--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com

Arnold Howard on mon 4 apr 11


It was wonderful to see Clayart friends throughout the week. Mel and I
gave a "Kiln Doctors" presentation in the Clayart room last Thursday. I
enjoyed the accompanying laughter and stories.

On Thursday evening the rain stopped, so Mel and I left the conference
center and walked in the direction of the USS American Victory Museum,
one of the few remaining World War II cargo ships. We walked about a
mile through wet streets and found the ship, which loomed high above us
and glowed in the moonlight. It was a walk back into time to the 1940s.
We finished the evening with french fries at the Hyatt.

Though I spent most of my time in the exhibitor's area, I had the chance
to view the National K-12 student competition. Cory Hunter of the
Kastner Intermediate School produced a beautiful tea set that won a
Paragon Caldera kiln for her classroom.

I flew home on Saturday aboard a packed flight. I read a book while
standing in line for security, waiting at the gate, and throughout the
flight. Reading a book can make any trip enjoyable.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com

Paul Lewing on thu 21 apr 11


On Apr 21, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Lenny Dowhie wrote:

Problems will arise in Seattle just like anyplace. Biggest problem:
Rain.
(2) Lack of sunshine (3) Distance (4) costs overall (5) Did I say
rain? (6)
Clouds

Seriously, don't let the rain stop you. It's really unusual for it to
rain really hard or for really long stretches here. It's usually a
gentle rain and most days there are at least some periods when it
isn't raining. It's a dry rain. You can tell the natives- they're
the ones without umbrellas. We just ignore it. I wear a cap most of
the time because I hate rain on my glasses. I do have a raincoat, but
I don't wear it often. I usually wear just a regular coat in the
winter.
And one thing about Seattle in late March/ early April- it's GREEN!
Spring is well under way by then. It is possible it might snow a
little, but that would be really unusual. It's also just as likely
that it will be clear and sunny. And when it's nice here, there is no
place on the planet nicer. This is the most beautiful setting for a
city anywhere in North America. Its only competition is Vancouver.
Besides, this is one of the great food towns of the US, particularly
if you like seafood.

Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com
www.paullewingart.com

Donna J.S. Causland on thu 21 apr 11


Lots of complaints on clayart about NCECA in Tampa.
Yes, it's expensive, but us "working potters" pay our own way.
You try to budget for it and as with most in life, you get out of
it what you put into it. Tampa was probably the best conference
for me ever & I've been going since 1973. Made connections for
some career building projects & enjoyed a beer by the pool with
Rimas Vis Girda - who was my most influential teacher 34 years
ago. I think he set the hook for my life in clay.
4 days of total immersion in CLAY - definitely worth the price of
admission.
See you all in Seattle,
Donna Causland

Randall Moody on thu 21 apr 11


I didn't see many complaints but rather more observations. It wasn't any
more or less expensive than most major cities. I think Seattle will be good
but getting there will be the hardest and most expensive part for the
majority of people. My observation of Tampa was that the galleries and show=
s
were too spread out. That isn't the fault of NCECA but simply a part of man=
y
cities including the one I live in.


--
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Donna J.S. Causland <
djscausland@wildblue.net> wrote:

> Lots of complaints on clayart about NCECA in Tampa.
> Yes, it's expensive, but us "working potters" pay our own way.
> You try to budget for it and as with most in life, you get out of
> it what you put into it. Tampa was probably the best conference
> for me ever & I've been going since 1973. Made connections for
> some career building projects & enjoyed a beer by the pool with
> Rimas Vis Girda - who was my most influential teacher 34 years
> ago. I think he set the hook for my life in clay.
> 4 days of total immersion in CLAY - definitely worth the price of
> admission.
> See you all in Seattle,
> Donna Causland
>

jonathan byler on thu 21 apr 11


seattle is actually relatively cheap to fly in to, especially compared
to other cities in the region, such as portland, or and vancouver, bc.

the art was too spread out in tampa, and that kind of sucked. it
would have been nice if the whole conference could have been in St.
Pete where all the art was.


On Apr 21, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Randall Moody wrote:

> I didn't see many complaints but rather more observations. It wasn't
> any
> more or less expensive than most major cities. I think Seattle will
> be good
> but getting there will be the hardest and most expensive part for the
> majority of people. My observation of Tampa was that the galleries
> and shows
> were too spread out. That isn't the fault of NCECA but simply a part
> of many
> cities including the one I live in.
>
>
> --
> Randall in Atlanta
> http://wrandallmoody.com
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Donna J.S. Causland <
> djscausland@wildblue.net> wrote:
>
>> Lots of complaints on clayart about NCECA in Tampa.
>> Yes, it's expensive, but us "working potters" pay our own way.
>> You try to budget for it and as with most in life, you get out of
>> it what you put into it. Tampa was probably the best conference
>> for me ever & I've been going since 1973. Made connections for
>> some career building projects & enjoyed a beer by the pool with
>> Rimas Vis Girda - who was my most influential teacher 34 years
>> ago. I think he set the hook for my life in clay.
>> 4 days of total immersion in CLAY - definitely worth the price of
>> admission.
>> See you all in Seattle,
>> Donna Causland
>>

Lenny Dowhie on thu 21 apr 11


Problems will arise in Seattle just like anyplace. Biggest problem: Rain.
(2) Lack of sunshine (3) Distance (4) costs overall (5) Did I say rain? (6)
Clouds

Hmm... who goes for the conference anymore? For most over 40--its
location, location, location, Although i am surprised more folks didn't wan=
t to
leave the misery of the cold midwest and north east for Tampa--Oh well.


In a message dated 4/21/2011 3:53:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jebyler2@GMAIL.COM writes:

seattle is actually relatively cheap to fly in to, especially compared
to other cities in the region, such as portland, or and vancouver, bc.

the art was too spread out in tampa, and that kind of sucked. it
would have been nice if the whole conference could have been in St.
Pete where all the art was.


On Apr 21, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Randall Moody wrote:

> I didn't see many complaints but rather more observations. It wasn't
> any
> more or less expensive than most major cities. I think Seattle will
> be good
> but getting there will be the hardest and most expensive part for the
> majority of people. My observation of Tampa was that the galleries
> and shows
> were too spread out. That isn't the fault of NCECA but simply a part
> of many
> cities including the one I live in.
>
>
> --
> Randall in Atlanta
> http://wrandallmoody.com
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Donna J.S. Causland <
> djscausland@wildblue.net> wrote:
>
>> Lots of complaints on clayart about NCECA in Tampa.
>> Yes, it's expensive, but us "working potters" pay our own way.
>> You try to budget for it and as with most in life, you get out of
>> it what you put into it. Tampa was probably the best conference
>> for me ever & I've been going since 1973. Made connections for
>> some career building projects & enjoyed a beer by the pool with
>> Rimas Vis Girda - who was my most influential teacher 34 years
>> ago. I think he set the hook for my life in clay.
>> 4 days of total immersion in CLAY - definitely worth the price of
>> admission.
>> See you all in Seattle,
>> Donna Causland
>>

douglas fur on fri 22 apr 11


Paul
remember- "You can tell when it's spring in Seattle-the rain is warmer."
DRB
Seola Creek

David McBeth on mon 25 apr 11


Many of us university potters, those from the ranks of the academy ya know,
pay our own way to NCECA as well. Travel, research and presentations are an
expected, but mostly unfunded, requirement for promotion, tenure and merit
pay (not that we get that anyhow) in higher education. I have received a 1=
%
raise in the last five years, that is not 1 % a year, that is 1%. Oh the
glories of the university life. Please don't fall in to the trap of think
University potters have more money than we know what to do with. Has our
budgets get cut each year, more and more of the studio extra come out of my
pocket. The faculty in our department fund the visiting artist program out
of our paycheck, the faculty in our department also provide the funds for
the cash awards for the annual student art show in the spring - out of our
paychecks. AND since I hold an Empty Bowls event each November, the locals
know that one time a year they can by my pots cheap and the money goes to a
"good cause."

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Donna J.S. Causland <
djscausland@wildblue.net> wrote:

> Lots of complaints on clayart about NCECA in Tampa.
> Yes, it's expensive, but us "working potters" pay our own way.
> You try to budget for it and as with most in life, you get out of
> it what you put into it. Tampa was probably the best conference
> for me ever & I've been going since 1973. Made connections for
> some career building projects & enjoyed a beer by the pool with
> Rimas Vis Girda - who was my most influential teacher 34 years
> ago. I think he set the hook for my life in clay.
> 4 days of total immersion in CLAY - definitely worth the price of
> admission.
> See you all in Seattle,
> Donna Causland
>



--
David McBeth
Professor of Art
Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
University of Tennessee - Martin
731-881-7416

Xavier Gonzalez on wed 22 feb 12


I need help driving my van from the Los Angeles area to NCECA.=3D

Hello:=3D0A=3D0AI need help driving my van from the Los Angeles area to NCE=
CA.=3D
=3DA0 My phone number =3D0Ais 818/781-4030.=3DA0 Please call if you are int=
ereste=3D
d asap.=3D0A=3D0AThanks - Xavier

mel jacobson on tue 6 mar 12


for those driving in...remember, the clayart room is open
to all, any time during the day.
no charge, no credentials needed.

i think the entire schedule of events is best found
on the nceca website.
click around, see what shakes.

i do not have the complete schedule mailed to me yet.
it will be along soon i think...i hope.

i have no idea how browsers work for others..i know
mine had issues, but others did fine.
mel
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart page below:
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html

Laurie on tue 3 apr 12


It was awesome to see Clayart folks at NCECA! I haven't been to one since
Portland in 2006. The mug exchange was a lot of fun. I got Logan's oil set =
and
Carole Fox got my mug. The Potters Jam was a blast! Next time we will have =
to be
sure to play Sympathy for the Devil for Mr. Robin Hopper though. I was real=
ly
curious to hear what he was going to do with it. I suspect it has to do wit=
h his
blog intro. I am already planning to go to Houston.

The various sessions, demos and lectures that I attended were interesting. =
Chris
Campbell hosted a good session on selling your work. Then there was the exp=
o
floor. I have already put my new Bison tools to work and am pleased to say =
that
the ones I picked out this time were perfect for my current needs! And I ha=
ve a
bag of new Mecca stamps to play with. So much to do and so little time! Saw=
the
Gauguin show at SAM before leaving on Saturday.

Thanks to Mel and the organizers for the nice Clayart room! I liked having =
it in
the convention center. It was a nice place to be able to retire to in betwe=
en
racing around to everything else! And a good place to stop and eat your lun=
ch
with friends.

Laurie in Sacramento

Snail Scott on tue 3 apr 12


Lots of great shows at NCECA - classic old-school stuff and innovative =3D
in-your-face stuff and cool stuff and pretty stuff and nasty stuff and =3D
classy stuff. The exhibition catalog from the 'Fringe' show at the =3D
Design Center was a keeper, and only $5. Steve S. got my cup at the =3D
exchange, and I got Fred P's. Had amazing, memorable sushi with Jon S. =3D
Learned new stuff from lots of new people, and caught up with lots of =3D
folks I haven't seen in years.

On Saturday, as NCECA wound down, the Emerald City ComicCon took over =3D
the convention center, so I slid next door for a day pass. Visual =3D
dessert on top of an already great week. I've been out of the comics =3D
world for a while, and I was enthralled at the amount of independent =3D
self-published work out there done by really talented folks. I chatted =3D
with one, who said, "Oh, you're one of these CeramiCon folks!" (I liked =
=3D
that.) Another said his cousin was in one of the NCECA shows. Great =3D
energy all over.=3D20

Cross-pollenization is good! Too much ceramic art looks only at other =3D
ceramics for inspiration.

-Snail

Lisa Elbertsen on wed 4 apr 12


This was my very first NCECA. I didn't know what to expect but I wasn't
disappointed. Living in Canada and almost 2 hours away from my local
pottery supply store, I only see tools in magazines and online but to enjoy
the trade show and speak directly to suppliers and actually see and feel
tools was a real treat. Hard on the pocketbook but I made some awesome
purchases. I also took the shuttle to Seattle Pottery Supply which I
thoroughly enjoyed.

I loved the demos and learned from the lectures. I am a hands-on visual
person (as are most potters I guess) and I "get" the most out of demos. I
tell ya, if I was a man (or a lesbian) I think I would have asked Christa
Assad to marry me. What an amazing artist and an even more so, an amazing
person. And Tip Toland! What a great women and teacher but a total cutie
at the same time!

The people I met were always when I was standing in a line for something.
Potters are down-to-earth people and easy to talk to, especially those
Texans! Not knowing a soul at NCECA was a little daunting but it was great
meeting lots of people from all over North America.

Seattle was great and I am used to the weather, so it felt like home that
way. I toured around the Sky Needle and took myself to a movie at the IMAX=
.
I enjoyed Pioneer Square and walking along the waterfront and Pike Place
Market. The Seattle Design Center was a wonderful way to see a ton of
ceramics all in one building. I put on a lot of miles over my 5 day visit.
Good thing too because eating out 3 times a day was bound to catch up to me=
.

I thoroughly enjoyed people watching in the convention center and ALL over
Seattle as Comicon started up on Friday. There were 4100 or so people who
registered for NCECA Seattle, but based on the crowds I saw in and around
town for Comicon, there must have been close to 30,000+ registrants (I'm
still searching for the number of registrants just out of curiosity).
Seattle was reasonably quiet until Friday rolled around. And the crazy
costumes! Wow! As my friend who attends these events, she refers to them
as "freaks and geeks".

The best part of NCECA for me is that I am totally inspired again and I am
filled with lots of new ideas and I can't wait to start creating and
experimenting. This is why I am writing this note at 3am in the morning. =
I
woke up but as soon as I woke up I started thinking about new forms and
ideas for hours. It's been awhile since I laid awake because of clay!

Regards,
Lisa

Website: www.LisaElbertsen.com
Blog: www.sunnydazedesign.blogspot.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/sunnydazedesignstudio



-----Original Message-----
From: Snail Scott [mailto:claywork@FLYING-SNAIL.COM]
Sent: April-03-12 8:37 PM
Subject: NCECA

Lots of great shows at NCECA - classic old-school stuff and innovative
in-your-face stuff and cool stuff and pretty stuff and nasty stuff and
classy stuff. The exhibition catalog from the 'Fringe' show at the Design
Center was a keeper, and only $5. Steve S. got my cup at the exchange, and
I got Fred P's. Had amazing, memorable sushi with Jon S. Learned new stuff
from lots of new people, and caught up with lots of folks I haven't seen in
years.

On Saturday, as NCECA wound down, the Emerald City ComicCon took over the
convention center, so I slid next door for a day pass. Visual dessert on to=
p
of an already great week. I've been out of the comics world for a while, an=
d
I was enthralled at the amount of independent self-published work out there
done by really talented folks. I chatted with one, who said, "Oh, you're on=
e
of these CeramiCon folks!" (I liked that.) Another said his cousin was in
one of the NCECA shows. Great energy all over.

Cross-pollenization is good! Too much ceramic art looks only at other
ceramics for inspiration.

-Snail

Greg Relaford on thu 5 apr 12


This was my first NCECA, and the first time meeting most of the Clayart
crowd. I'm actually a bit shy and overwhelmed by crowds, lots of new
people, etc. I loved the conference, learned a lot, saw a lot, bought a
few great tools. I spent part of the time walking around with one of my
teachers, and part of the time walking around with my wife. I spent
several hours in the Clayart room.

The Clayart room was great! Thank you Mel and all of the Clayart crowd! I
got to match name to face some, and meet up with a really brilliant crowd
of people...who are also very friendly. I look forward to seeing people
again, and getting to to know everyone better. Clayart is like a
think-tank for pottery!

In the cup exchange, amazingly, my bowl went to Yonnah Ben Levy, who I had
met a week before in Everett, while she was doing a throwing demonstration.
She is a wonderful person, and a very nice potter. As it happens, my
co-worker is in a PhD program Yonnah is applying for, and I had already
introduced the two of them the week before NCECA. I got a cup from Andy
Snyder, from Vermont, and we exchanged emails this week about his cup,
ourselves, etc. A really pretty cup!

Pottery is such a big subject, and the skill-set is so large and
potentially complex, that it would be easy to either feel the 'mountain' is
too high, or to get stuck in a rut. A group like this calms the waves and
keeps you on your toes. To mix several metaphors.

Greg Relaford

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Lisa Elbertsen wrote:

> This was my very first NCECA. I didn't know what to expect but I wasn't
> disappointed. Living in Canada and almost 2 hours away from my local
> pottery supply store, I only see tools in magazines and online but to enj=
oy
> the trade show and speak directly to suppliers and actually see and feel
> tools was a real treat. Hard on the pocketbook but I made some awesome
> purchases. I also took the shuttle to Seattle Pottery Supply which I
> thoroughly enjoyed.
>
> I loved the demos and learned from the lectures. I am a hands-on visual
> person (as are most potters I guess) and I "get" the most out of demos. =
I
> tell ya, if I was a man (or a lesbian) I think I would have asked Christa
> Assad to marry me. What an amazing artist and an even more so, an amazin=
g
> person. And Tip Toland! What a great women and teacher but a total cuti=
e
> at the same time!
>
> The people I met were always when I was standing in a line for something.
> Potters are down-to-earth people and easy to talk to, especially those
> Texans! Not knowing a soul at NCECA was a little daunting but it was gre=
at
> meeting lots of people from all over North America.
>
> Seattle was great and I am used to the weather, so it felt like home that
> way. I toured around the Sky Needle and took myself to a movie at the
> IMAX.
> I enjoyed Pioneer Square and walking along the waterfront and Pike Place
> Market. The Seattle Design Center was a wonderful way to see a ton of
> ceramics all in one building. I put on a lot of miles over my 5 day visi=
t.
> Good thing too because eating out 3 times a day was bound to catch up to
> me.
>
> I thoroughly enjoyed people watching in the convention center and ALL ove=
r
> Seattle as Comicon started up on Friday. There were 4100 or so people who
> registered for NCECA Seattle, but based on the crowds I saw in and around
> town for Comicon, there must have been close to 30,000+ registrants (I'm
> still searching for the number of registrants just out of curiosity).
> Seattle was reasonably quiet until Friday rolled around. And the crazy
> costumes! Wow! As my friend who attends these events, she refers to the=
m
> as "freaks and geeks".
>
> The best part of NCECA for me is that I am totally inspired again and I a=
m
> filled with lots of new ideas and I can't wait to start creating and
> experimenting. This is why I am writing this note at 3am in the morning.
> I
> woke up but as soon as I woke up I started thinking about new forms and
> ideas for hours. It's been awhile since I laid awake because of clay!
>
> Regards,
> Lisa
>
> Website: www.LisaElbertsen.com
> Blog: www.sunnydazedesign.blogspot.com
> Facebook: www.facebook.com/sunnydazedesignstudio
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Snail Scott [mailto:claywork@FLYING-SNAIL.COM]
> Sent: April-03-12 8:37 PM
> Subject: NCECA
>
> Lots of great shows at NCECA - classic old-school stuff and innovative
> in-your-face stuff and cool stuff and pretty stuff and nasty stuff and
> classy stuff. The exhibition catalog from the 'Fringe' show at the Design
> Center was a keeper, and only $5. Steve S. got my cup at the exchange, a=
nd
> I got Fred P's. Had amazing, memorable sushi with Jon S. Learned new stu=
ff
> from lots of new people, and caught up with lots of folks I haven't seen =
in
> years.
>
> On Saturday, as NCECA wound down, the Emerald City ComicCon took over the
> convention center, so I slid next door for a day pass. Visual dessert on
> top
> of an already great week. I've been out of the comics world for a while,
> and
> I was enthralled at the amount of independent self-published work out the=
re
> done by really talented folks. I chatted with one, who said, "Oh, you're
> one
> of these CeramiCon folks!" (I liked that.) Another said his cousin was =
in
> one of the NCECA shows. Great energy all over.
>
> Cross-pollenization is good! Too much ceramic art looks only at other
> ceramics for inspiration.
>
> -Snail
>

marci Boskie's Mama =3D^..^=3D on thu 5 apr 12


Glad Clayart is back !
NCECA, as everyone has stated, was fabulous! I only really spent
Thursday there before my back started giving out but we covered a
fair amount of territory .
Thursday morning, Paul Lewing and I gave our co-lecture on
chinapainting , which I am now in the process of posting on our PPIO
forum :
http://ppioforum.com/viewforum.php?f=3D485&sid=3Df4911b28b689ae49dea4b8d6d8=
2cc19b
I have the slides from our powerpoint all posted and am still
adding the text.. so give me a few days yet... Should be all up and
rolling by the end of the weekend.
Ill also be offering a hands on overglaze workshop before NCECA
Houston next year, so if anyone is interested, please let me know.
Its a small studio and space will be limited to probably 15 at most.
It was great to see everyone in the Clayart room... The only
suggestion I can make for next year is cots so we can all take naps LOL !
Had a first time NCECA goer with me, a china painting friend of
mine, Bev Stone and she was overwhelmed by all the cool stuff.
Arnold, WOW ! SCARY pix! We watched it all unfold on Fox news
and Im glad that you are OK , as are many of my friends that live in
the DFW area. We get ' em here in Nashville too and this year, rex
and I went to a storm spotter class sponsored by the local National
Weather Service. It was really a great class. Anyone in the bullseye
should consider taking one.

marci the chinapainter

Lisa Elbertsen on thu 5 apr 12


I love what you said =3DE2=3D80=3D9CPottery is such a big subject, and the=
=3D
skill-set is so large and potentially complex, that it would be easy to =3D
either feel the 'mountain' is too high, or to get stuck in a rut. A =3D
group like this calms the waves and keeps you on your toes.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D

=3D20

From: Greg Relaford [mailto:greg.relaford@gmail.com]=3D20
Sent: April-05-12 7:15 AM
To: Lisa Elbertsen
Cc: Clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
Subject: Re: NCECA

=3D20

This was my first NCECA, and the first time meeting most of the Clayart =3D
crowd. I'm actually a bit shy and overwhelmed by crowds, lots of new =3D
people, etc. I loved the conference, learned a lot, saw a lot, bought a =
=3D
few great tools. I spent part of the time walking around with one of my =
=3D
teachers, and part of the time walking around with my wife. I spent =3D
several hours in the Clayart room. =3D20

=3D20

The Clayart room was great! Thank you Mel and all of the Clayart crowd! =
=3D
I got to match name to face some, and meet up with a really brilliant =3D
crowd of people...who are also very friendly. I look forward to seeing =3D
people again, and getting to to know everyone better. Clayart is like a =
=3D
think-tank for pottery!

=3D20

In the cup exchange, amazingly, my bowl went to Yonnah Ben Levy, who I =3D
had met a week before in Everett, while she was doing a throwing =3D
demonstration. She is a wonderful person, and a very nice potter. As =3D
it happens, my co-worker is in a PhD program Yonnah is applying for, and =
=3D
I had already introduced the two of them the week before NCECA. I got a =
=3D
cup from Andy Snyder, from Vermont, and we exchanged emails this week =3D
about his cup, ourselves, etc. A really pretty cup! =3D20

=3D20

Pottery is such a big subject, and the skill-set is so large and =3D
potentially complex, that it would be easy to either feel the 'mountain' =
=3D
is too high, or to get stuck in a rut. A group like this calms the =3D
waves and keeps you on your toes. To mix several metaphors. =3D20

=3D20

Greg Relaford

=3D20

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Lisa Elbertsen =3D
wrote:

This was my very first NCECA. I didn't know what to expect but I wasn't
disappointed. Living in Canada and almost 2 hours away from my local
pottery supply store, I only see tools in magazines and online but to =3D
enjoy
the trade show and speak directly to suppliers and actually see and feel
tools was a real treat. Hard on the pocketbook but I made some awesome
purchases. I also took the shuttle to Seattle Pottery Supply which I
thoroughly enjoyed.

I loved the demos and learned from the lectures. I am a hands-on visual
person (as are most potters I guess) and I "get" the most out of demos. =
=3D
I
tell ya, if I was a man (or a lesbian) I think I would have asked =3D
Christa
Assad to marry me. What an amazing artist and an even more so, an =3D
amazing
person. And Tip Toland! What a great women and teacher but a total =3D
cutie
at the same time!

The people I met were always when I was standing in a line for =3D
something.
Potters are down-to-earth people and easy to talk to, especially those
Texans! Not knowing a soul at NCECA was a little daunting but it was =3D
great
meeting lots of people from all over North America.

Seattle was great and I am used to the weather, so it felt like home =3D
that
way. I toured around the Sky Needle and took myself to a movie at the =3D
IMAX.
I enjoyed Pioneer Square and walking along the waterfront and Pike Place
Market. The Seattle Design Center was a wonderful way to see a ton of
ceramics all in one building. I put on a lot of miles over my 5 day =3D
visit.
Good thing too because eating out 3 times a day was bound to catch up to =
=3D
me.

I thoroughly enjoyed people watching in the convention center and ALL =3D
over
Seattle as Comicon started up on Friday. There were 4100 or so people =3D
who
registered for NCECA Seattle, but based on the crowds I saw in and =3D
around
town for Comicon, there must have been close to 30,000+ registrants (I'm
still searching for the number of registrants just out of curiosity).
Seattle was reasonably quiet until Friday rolled around. And the crazy
costumes! Wow! As my friend who attends these events, she refers to =3D
them
as "freaks and geeks".

The best part of NCECA for me is that I am totally inspired again and I =3D
am
filled with lots of new ideas and I can't wait to start creating and
experimenting. This is why I am writing this note at 3am in the =3D
morning. I
woke up but as soon as I woke up I started thinking about new forms and
ideas for hours. It's been awhile since I laid awake because of clay!

Regards,
Lisa

Website: www.LisaElbertsen.com
Blog: www.sunnydazedesign.blogspot.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/sunnydazedesignstudio




-----Original Message-----
From: Snail Scott [mailto:claywork@FLYING-SNAIL.COM]
Sent: April-03-12 8:37 PM
Subject: NCECA

Lots of great shows at NCECA - classic old-school stuff and innovative
in-your-face stuff and cool stuff and pretty stuff and nasty stuff and
classy stuff. The exhibition catalog from the 'Fringe' show at the =3D
Design
Center was a keeper, and only $5. Steve S. got my cup at the exchange, =3D
and
I got Fred P's. Had amazing, memorable sushi with Jon S. Learned new =3D
stuff
from lots of new people, and caught up with lots of folks I haven't seen =
=3D
in
years.

On Saturday, as NCECA wound down, the Emerald City ComicCon took over =3D
the
convention center, so I slid next door for a day pass. Visual dessert on =
=3D
top
of an already great week. I've been out of the comics world for a while, =
=3D
and
I was enthralled at the amount of independent self-published work out =3D
there
done by really talented folks. I chatted with one, who said, "Oh, you're =
=3D
one
of these CeramiCon folks!" (I liked that.) Another said his cousin was =
=3D
in
one of the NCECA shows. Great energy all over.

Cross-pollenization is good! Too much ceramic art looks only at other
ceramics for inspiration.

-Snail

=3D20

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Paul Lewing on thu 5 apr 12


I too am glad Clayart is back.
This was a very unusual NCECA for me. It's weird having it in your
hometown. It also made it go on much longer for me than it usually
does and seem much busier. It started for me on the Friday before
when I spent two days helping set up shows at the Design Center. I
guess we were lucky things are so bad in the design industry as five
years ago all those showrooms were full. But it was great to have 30
ceramics shows in one spot, in nice well lighted, high ceiling rooms.
Then Sunday Lori, Russell and Marta came to my house for dinner and on
Monday Fred Sweet and Rebecca Knight came in and stayed with me. We
spent Tuesday and Wednesday seeing shows. On Tuesday it was the
Design Center and Wednesday it was what would have been the Eastside
bus route, including the NCECA National at Bellevue Arts Museum. The
only glitch in the whole thing, that I heard of, was the buses. For
one thing, the bus routes to Bellingham, Tacoma and Bellevue were all
cancelled due to low enrollment. Not surprising. They priced them so
high it was much cheaper to rent a car and take 4 people. I doubt
many people did that, with the result that people saw only the shows
within walking distance of the hotels, although there were a lot of
those. And at least one of the shows we were trying to find was
nowhere near where it was marked on the program map. But all in all,
it went off beautifully and I think they had the largest crowd ever.
Marge Levy and numerous volunteers did a marvelous job. They raised
the bar pretty high for future conferences.
As Marci said, we were very gratified with the turnout to our lecture,
especially since it was at 9 in the morning. I was especially pleased
that one of the main demonstrators, Jason Walker, and one of the
Emerging Talents, Darien Johnson, are both china painting. It really
seems to be gaining acceptance in the clay community. Unfortunately,
Jason's father died the night before his demo so he wasn't there. And
Darien Johnson gave a really nice presentation, but never mentioned
that he was using china paints.
This one seemed so busy to me I guess because there were so many more
people there I know. I only made it to the Clayart room for a few
minutes one day. Too bad it's not in a hotel any longer so we have to
get out at 5. Evenings were mostly when I'd hang out there. But I
never made it into the room with the galleries either.
Just wanted to give a big hand to Lee Burningham and his students.
Lee came with a bus load from Logan Utah, students, teachers and
parents. There were some photography students documenting the
experience and five of Lee's students who had work in the K-12 show.
And all 5 of them got prizes, including one who got a scholarship!
Way to go! That show was one of the best I saw. Another highlight
was the show of ceramic shoes in the window of the downtown flagship
Nordstrom store. Nordstrom started in Seattle as a shoe store, so
that was great. Another was the teapot show at Bellevue Community
College, although you were really lucky if you could find that one.
Another highlight was the panel on glaze chemistry with Bill Carty,
Dave Finkelnberg, and Mathew Metz. Man, those guys have fun toys!
I hope everyone enjoyed Seattle. Too bad the weather couldn't have
been nicer- it was typical Seattle winter weather, but too bad you
never saw Mt. Rainier. That's where God lives in the summer, you
know. But the food was as good as always, right? And how did you
like the coffee?
Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com
www.paullewingart.com

Taylor Hendrix on thu 5 apr 12


There was coffee in Seattle?

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On Apr 5, 2012 12:20 PM, "Paul Lewing" wrote:

> I too am glad Clayart is back.
> This was a very unusual NCECA for me. It's weird having it in your
> hometown. It also made it go on much longer for me than it usually
> does and seem much busier. It started for me on the Friday before
> when I spent two days helping set up shows at the Design Center. I
> guess we were lucky things are so bad in the design industry as five
> years ago all those showrooms were full. But it was great to have 30
> ceramics shows in one spot, in nice well lighted, high ceiling rooms.
> Then Sunday Lori, Russell and Marta came to my house for dinner and on
> Monday Fred Sweet and Rebecca Knight came in and stayed with me. We
> spent Tuesday and Wednesday seeing shows. On Tuesday it was the
> Design Center and Wednesday it was what would have been the Eastside
> bus route, including the NCECA National at Bellevue Arts Museum. The
> only glitch in the whole thing, that I heard of, was the buses. For
> one thing, the bus routes to Bellingham, Tacoma and Bellevue were all
> cancelled due to low enrollment. Not surprising. They priced them so
> high it was much cheaper to rent a car and take 4 people. I doubt
> many people did that, with the result that people saw only the shows
> within walking distance of the hotels, although there were a lot of
> those. And at least one of the shows we were trying to find was
> nowhere near where it was marked on the program map. But all in all,
> it went off beautifully and I think they had the largest crowd ever.
> Marge Levy and numerous volunteers did a marvelous job. They raised
> the bar pretty high for future conferences.
> As Marci said, we were very gratified with the turnout to our lecture,
> especially since it was at 9 in the morning. I was especially pleased
> that one of the main demonstrators, Jason Walker, and one of the
> Emerging Talents, Darien Johnson, are both china painting. It really
> seems to be gaining acceptance in the clay community. Unfortunately,
> Jason's father died the night before his demo so he wasn't there. And
> Darien Johnson gave a really nice presentation, but never mentioned
> that he was using china paints.
> This one seemed so busy to me I guess because there were so many more
> people there I know. I only made it to the Clayart room for a few
> minutes one day. Too bad it's not in a hotel any longer so we have to
> get out at 5. Evenings were mostly when I'd hang out there. But I
> never made it into the room with the galleries either.
> Just wanted to give a big hand to Lee Burningham and his students.
> Lee came with a bus load from Logan Utah, students, teachers and
> parents. There were some photography students documenting the
> experience and five of Lee's students who had work in the K-12 show.
> And all 5 of them got prizes, including one who got a scholarship!
> Way to go! That show was one of the best I saw. Another highlight
> was the show of ceramic shoes in the window of the downtown flagship
> Nordstrom store. Nordstrom started in Seattle as a shoe store, so
> that was great. Another was the teapot show at Bellevue Community
> College, although you were really lucky if you could find that one.
> Another highlight was the panel on glaze chemistry with Bill Carty,
> Dave Finkelnberg, and Mathew Metz. Man, those guys have fun toys!
> I hope everyone enjoyed Seattle. Too bad the weather couldn't have
> been nicer- it was typical Seattle winter weather, but too bad you
> never saw Mt. Rainier. That's where God lives in the summer, you
> know. But the food was as good as always, right? And how did you
> like the coffee?
> Paul Lewing
> www.paullewingtile.com
> www.paullewingart.com
>

Paul Lewing on thu 5 apr 12


On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Taylor Hendrix wrote:

There was coffee in Seattle?

You could say that. If you went to the Pike PLace Market you may have
seen the Starbucks with the plaque on it saying it was the location of
the original Starbucks store. That's a lie, by the way. The original
Starbucks was in the store front next to the one it's in now.

I meant to post three stories before NCECA that speak to Seattle's
coffee addiction.
In the basement of the art building on the UW campus, there used to be
a coffee cart. Behind the counter, there was a sign saying, "When
ordering coffee, you may use no more than three adjectives".
There's a homeless guy who sometimes sleeps on the loading dock behind
the building where my wife's office is located. He likes it there
because there's an electrical outlet there where he can plug in the
coffee maker he carries with him and make coffee using the Arabica
beans he carries.
We knew someone who moved here from elsewhere, who had gotten quite
attached to a very particular coffee drink. Where she came from she
had always had to go into great detail explaining what she wanted, and
even then sometimes they didn't know what she was talking about. She
stopped for coffee at a cart here in Seattle, and when she had
finished with her very detailed description, the barista said, "Oh,
you want a Number 3".
Yeah, we like our coffee here. Starbucks ain't good enough for many
here.
Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com
www.paullewingart.com

Earl Krueger on thu 5 apr 12


Only thing wrong with this NCECA was I didn't get a chance to meet and talk
with everybody. Well, maybe next year.

Earl
Who felt like being in Seattle
Was like going back home.
On Apr 5, 2012 10:20 AM, "Paul Lewing" wrote:

> I too am glad Clayart is back.
> This was a very unusual NCECA for me. It's weird having it in your
> hometown. It also made it go on much longer for me than it usually
> does and seem much busier. It started for me on the Friday before
> when I spent two days helping set up shows at the Design Center. I
> guess we were lucky things are so bad in the design industry as five
> years ago all those showrooms were full. But it was great to have 30
> ceramics shows in one spot, in nice well lighted, high ceiling rooms.
> Then Sunday Lori, Russell and Marta came to my house for dinner and on
> Monday Fred Sweet and Rebecca Knight came in and stayed with me. We
> spent Tuesday and Wednesday seeing shows. On Tuesday it was the
> Design Center and Wednesday it was what would have been the Eastside
> bus route, including the NCECA National at Bellevue Arts Museum. The
> only glitch in the whole thing, that I heard of, was the buses. For
> one thing, the bus routes to Bellingham, Tacoma and Bellevue were all
> cancelled due to low enrollment. Not surprising. They priced them so
> high it was much cheaper to rent a car and take 4 people. I doubt
> many people did that, with the result that people saw only the shows
> within walking distance of the hotels, although there were a lot of
> those. And at least one of the shows we were trying to find was
> nowhere near where it was marked on the program map. But all in all,
> it went off beautifully and I think they had the largest crowd ever.
> Marge Levy and numerous volunteers did a marvelous job. They raised
> the bar pretty high for future conferences.
> As Marci said, we were very gratified with the turnout to our lecture,
> especially since it was at 9 in the morning. I was especially pleased
> that one of the main demonstrators, Jason Walker, and one of the
> Emerging Talents, Darien Johnson, are both china painting. It really
> seems to be gaining acceptance in the clay community. Unfortunately,
> Jason's father died the night before his demo so he wasn't there. And
> Darien Johnson gave a really nice presentation, but never mentioned
> that he was using china paints.
> This one seemed so busy to me I guess because there were so many more
> people there I know. I only made it to the Clayart room for a few
> minutes one day. Too bad it's not in a hotel any longer so we have to
> get out at 5. Evenings were mostly when I'd hang out there. But I
> never made it into the room with the galleries either.
> Just wanted to give a big hand to Lee Burningham and his students.
> Lee came with a bus load from Logan Utah, students, teachers and
> parents. There were some photography students documenting the
> experience and five of Lee's students who had work in the K-12 show.
> And all 5 of them got prizes, including one who got a scholarship!
> Way to go! That show was one of the best I saw. Another highlight
> was the show of ceramic shoes in the window of the downtown flagship
> Nordstrom store. Nordstrom started in Seattle as a shoe store, so
> that was great. Another was the teapot show at Bellevue Community
> College, although you were really lucky if you could find that one.
> Another highlight was the panel on glaze chemistry with Bill Carty,
> Dave Finkelnberg, and Mathew Metz. Man, those guys have fun toys!
> I hope everyone enjoyed Seattle. Too bad the weather couldn't have
> been nicer- it was typical Seattle winter weather, but too bad you
> never saw Mt. Rainier. That's where God lives in the summer, you
> know. But the food was as good as always, right? And how did you
> like the coffee?
> Paul Lewing
> www.paullewingtile.com
> www.paullewingart.com
>

marta matray on thu 5 apr 12


, Paul Lewing wrote:

>>>>>>>>........
>Then Sunday Lori, Russell and Marta came to my house for dinner .....>>>=
=3D
>>=3D20

and it was sooo good, i cant even describe it!=3D20
thank you so much for your hospitality, paul! it was great!=3D20
this was my very first visit to seattle. it rained a little :)) but it=3D20=
=3D

was not too much rain.=3D20
and the clayart room was super, i loved seeing all the clayart buddies,=3D2=
0=3D

thanks to mel!=3D20
hope to see all of you in houston next year,=3D20
love,marta=3D20

as soon as my son will help me download the pictures from my camera,=3D20
it will be here:=3D20
http://martamatray.blogspot.com/