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need ceramic buttons to complete fibre kiln...

updated fri 31 jan 97

 

Forsythe on wed 8 jan 97


Hi:

I am building a small kiln made from fiber which will be attached to a
metal frame.
In order to hold the fiber in place I need ceramic buttons - preferably
ceramic buttons
that protrude back into the fiber so that the wire holding the button to
the frame is not
directly exposed to the heat.

Question: Does anyone know where I can buy this sort of thing or have any
suggestions.

Thanks

Fraser

Tom Gray on thu 9 jan 97




Marc Ward (Ward Burners) makes buttons for this purpose. If Marc does not
respond (he is on this list also), check out his ad in Ceramics Monthly. I
think (not sure) his e-mail is wardburner@aol.com.
Tom Gray
Seagrove, NC
http://www.cclay.com







At 08:03 AM 1/8/97 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>Hi:
>
>I am building a small kiln made from fiber which will be attached to a
>metal frame.
>In order to hold the fiber in place I need ceramic buttons - preferably
>ceramic buttons
>that protrude back into the fiber so that the wire holding the button to
>the frame is not
>directly exposed to the heat.
>
>Question: Does anyone know where I can buy this sort of thing or have any
>suggestions.
>
>Thanks
>
>Fraser
>
>

Jack Phillips on thu 9 jan 97

At 08:03 AM 1/8/97 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>Hi:

>In order to hold the fiber in place I need ceramic buttons - preferably
>ceramic buttons
>that protrude back into the fiber so that the wire holding the button to
>the frame is not
>directly exposed to the heat.

Fraser

I would make my own if I were you. I have made the by taking a 1/4" slab of
clay(porcelain or ^10 sculpture) and cut it into squares about 1 to 1 1/2".
Pinch the very middle of the square so as to pull up a small bit of clay
that you can then pierce with wire. This will be the cold side. Bisque fire
them. Upon assembly, Push high temp wire through the fiber, loop it thru the
"button", and back thru the fiber then twist the wire together on the metal
frame work. (Do not pull too tight!) I have several thousand fireings on
most of my bonnets and they are still going strong.


Jack Phillips
STONART Ceramic art
Portland, Oregon

Web site:
http://www.worldstar.com/~stonart/welcome.html

Dannon Rhudy on thu 9 jan 97



Fraser:

Ceramic buttons are easy to make - just make the shape/number
you want, bisque fire them. Make sure the holes are bigger
than you really need, because threading the wire through
barely-big-enough is a pain.

Dannon Rhudy
potter@koyote.com

...............original message.........
Hi:

I am building a small kiln made from fiber which will be attached
to a
metal frame.
In order to hold the fiber in place I need ceramic buttons -
preferably
ceramic buttons
Fraser

Timothy & Lauren Loftus on thu 9 jan 97

Make your own buttons! Several raku kilns made around here (angle iron and
expanded metal) have great home-made buttons. They are about 1/4 inch thick,
rolled out and cut with a cookie cutter. Two holes are centered for the wire
to go thru later. They are bisqued, and sewn into the fiber. If you need
them to protrude into the fiber, you could drape them over some kind of
form, or just make a two tiered button, or a cylindrical shape that curves
(does that make sense?). Ours are all just flat though. Also if there is no
high temperature wire handy, I have heard the suggestion of using welding
rods to hold the buttons in, and they are already cut to the right length!

At 08:03 AM 1/8/97 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------

>In order to hold the fiber in place I need ceramic buttons - preferably
>ceramic buttons that protrude back into the fiber so that the wire holding
the button to the frame is not directly exposed to the heat.
>Question: Does anyone know where I can buy this sort of thing or have any
>suggestions. Thanks Fraser
>

WardBurner@aol.com on thu 9 jan 97

Fraser,

We make a slip cast high mullite button like you're looking for. $3.50 a
piece. I use the same buttons in our 120 cubic foot fiber car kiln. Send us
your address so we can send you a free catalog. The new '97 catalog will be
ready in a couple of weeks.

Marc Ward
Ward Burner Systems
PO Box 333
Dandridge, TN 37725
USA
423.397.2914 voice
423.397.1253 fax
wardburner@aol.com

The Canal House Studio on thu 9 jan 97

I cut mine out with a cookie cutter punched two holes for the kanthal wire to
go through fired them to cone six and have been using them for two years now.
(If you have nothing better to do you can inscribe a smile on each one!) Have
fun.

Bill Seeley on thu 9 jan 97

I think such buttons are easy to make yourself with a refractory clay
body (e.g. pure fireclay). Just roll out 1" balls, pat into 2" circles,
attach a small loop of clay to the back, dry, and bisque. The look
just like big coat buttons. After bisquing attach to your frame
with a short piece of kanthal or other element wire (available at
your local ceramics supplier). Your first firing will mature them
sufficiently for use.

If you don't want to go to this trouble you might contact Dave Warfield
at Shiloh Pottery in Hampstead, MD. He specializes in building fiber
kilns and might be willing to fabricate them to your order. He uses
a special body, very high in refractories like kyanite. I don't
think he's on the net but his phone number is (410) 239 6334.

Bill
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