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Ellen on wed 25 jun 97

Does anyone know the history or where I can find out the history of Neriage
or Nerikomi (colored clay)?

Melville Willard Jr. on fri 27 jun 97

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Does anyone know the history or where I can find out the history of Neriage
>or Nerikomi (colored clay)?


The following was sent to me in response to this question; it was written
by Pamela Kozminska who teaches ceramics at the ECC, a campus of San Diego
Community College.

It is a Japanese term, meaning "to mix," and is applicable, as more than
one color clay body is used. The pronunciation, thus is a bit different
than one might expect, as most people guess the derivation is French, so
ner-="neddi," a= "ah", and a hard g ge="gay". I found an example done
by the Chinese in a museum, perhaps it was the LA County Art Museum, so
also have the Italians done it calling it "Milliflore." There are
parallel processes in glass, and now in Fimo Clay, where a rolling "cane"
process is used.
Virginia Cartwright and Ban Kajitani, are two foremost contemporary
artists employing a multi-color clay plus slip layering, and in Ban's
case, also a wet on wet inlay wheel technique, where a thick walled
embroynic pot is gouged of a worm-shaped extraction, then another clay of
a different color but same softness is replaced. The pot is then thrown
as normal, yielding when the trimming is done, a swirled pattern.
Ban appeared on the cover of Ceramics Monthly, with this technique. Ban
came to San Diego and demonstrated these. When he lectured and showed
slides of a checkerboard, reverse bowl, I nearly fell off my seat with
delight.
Virginia, on the other hand is concerned with a porcelain/stain/slab/hand
building approach.
A Woman ceramics instructor at Penland whose name escapes me now also
does "Milliflore."
Robin Hopper, as well does these "Feather Basket Bowls," a multi-stepped
technique, afterwards faceting the top rim of the multi-colored bowl.
Check out Museums, in the Japanese and Chinese collections. Perhaps
museums would have a postcard of works in their collection, or maybe a
catalog; if one can't GO tho the museum.
This is an extremely time consuming technique, and good result are more
common when one measures, weighs, and writes down, if you want to repeat,
or didn't get enough colorant into the porcelain or white stoneware, at
the first go-around, or the opposite, if too much colorant (flux) is
added, the clay body will begin to actually melt before the other clay
bodies do, and sectional slumping occurs. I like to weigh, mix (gloves),
then bisque a swatch, and dip 1/2 into a clear glaze, just to see if the
value of the colored clay is what i want; if so, the build with it. For,
I also did it the other way, not weighing, wedging, and layering, only to
find that although you cloud see the layers at bisque, there was NOT
enough present at cone 10, to be visible in the final glazeware.

katy sheridan on sat 28 jun 97

Re comment from "Melville Willard Jr."

>The following was sent to me in response to this question; it was written
>by Pamela Kozminska who teaches ceramics at the ECC, a campus of San Diego
>Community College. (snip) A Woman ceramics instructor at Penland whose name
escapes me now also
>does "Milliflore."

I suspect that the name of the woman in Penland is Jane Piezer
(sp). Her exquisite work is shown in
In the on of the books about Penland. I'm guessing the name is "The Penland
Book". I'm not sure of the title or the spelling of her name because my copy
is on my shelves at work.

Why do so many people on this list have "humble opinions"?

Katy Sheridan, Ceramics Coordinator
Studio One
365 45th Street
Oakland, CA 94609

David McDonald on sun 6 feb 00

Aiko,
I have taken a good look at the web site you mentioned in your post
(below). Anyone else who has not yet done so; you're missing out on some
beautifully made pots which represent some wonderful examples of neriage,
or marbled and folded multiple colored clays. These are some various
examples of neriage as I would define it; taking different colored clays
and sandwiching them together, sometimes stretching and smearing between
layers. I saw this technique used alot in Japan, and do not recall any
terms other than neriage to describe it. I also have a video of Virginia
Cartwright working with the same technique to produce her small teapots,
and some other forms. She would really roll out and stretch each layer
and then build another block of clay out of the layers which she would
slice into layers again. When you see it being done, you see that it's
quite an easy process, but to only look at the finished pot, it can be
very difficult to figure out.
The potter whose work is shown on this website has quite obviously spent
alot of time developing his technique and skills. Thanks for sharing this
with us. David

On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:20:12 EST Aiko Ichimura writes:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> Hi all,
>
> I have a favor to ask anyone who are familiar with marbling clay
> techniques
> to take a look at this URL and tell me what you call this technique
> of using
> layers
> of different colored clay.
>
> The wife of the potter whose works are displayed in this URL gave me
> a permission to post this question to the Clayart List Serve.
> Unfortunately the site is only in Japanese but you can see numerous
> example
> of his technique. He calls it Neriage style in Japanese. The
> patterns are
> not painted
> but each colors are from colored clay.
>
> http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~konton/2pagegallery.htm
>
> I thank you for your generosity to share your knowledge with me &
> the
> Japanese
> List Servers.
>
> Aiko Ichimura
> aikop@erols.com

David McDonald
Limberlost Pottery
721 First Street
Prescott,AZ 86301
(520)778-7854 claydog@juno.com

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Bryan on mon 7 feb 00

Rightly or wrongly I make the distinction between neriage and nerikome
as neriage being wheel thrown and nerikome as being handbuildt.

Who has that book translating Japanese and English terms?

Bryan

Aiko Ichimura on tue 8 feb 00

Bryan wrote:

> Rightly or wrongly I make the distinction between neriage and nerikome
> as neriage being wheel thrown and nerikome as being handbuildt.
>
> Who has that book translating Japanese and English terms?

Accoding to the memory of Mr. Kamio Ogata whose works
were shown at the URL I posted, Bryan might be right.

He too remembered that Neriage is for technique that uses wheel and Nerikomi
being handbuilt. But now he call all his works Neriage style regardless how
he made.

He explains in that URL site, he is trying to perfect the crackle effect in
each colored
clay. If you see the enlarged image by clicking on the line under each
picture,
you can see the beatiful crackle effect. He also says that he uses up to 30
colored
clay layers to get those intricate patterns.

His wife is planning to create the site in English soon so that potters in
the world
can view hew husband's works.


Aiko Ichimura
aikop@erols.com

Vince Pitelka on tue 8 feb 00

At 02:42 PM 2/7/00 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Rightly or wrongly I make the distinction between neriage and nerikome
>as neriage being wheel thrown and nerikome as being handbuildt.
>
>Who has that book translating Japanese and English terms?

Actually Brian, until recently the only definitions I have come across say
exactly the opposite, and recently it was explained to me that nerikomi
involves marbleized effects, while neriage involves repetitive patterns.
Who knows if this is true. But neriage is always handbuilt.
Best wishes -
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Home - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
615/597-5376
Work - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 ext. 111, fax 615/597-6803
Appalachian Center for Crafts
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166

John K Dellow on tue 8 feb 00

According to the Penny Simpson book , either is correct . Must
get my wife to translate her book on the subject . Might throw
some light on the subject .

Bryan wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Rightly or wrongly I make the distinction between neriage and nerikome
> as neriage being wheel thrown and nerikome as being handbuildt.
>
> Who has that book translating Japanese and English terms?
>
> Bryan

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