DMSUGAR on thu 8 may 97
first and foremost, it is so wonderful to be able to reach so many
knowledgable clay lovers.
I am new to pottery and have recently purchased an old Paragon Electric
Kiln, I'm just wondering of there is anyone out there with same that is
willing to share some info. like, what do I do after I plug it in??? I
purchased it from someone who had no paperwork or info available. Any
info would be great. Thanks.
DMSugar@AOL.COM
Bill Buckner on fri 9 may 97
Most companies will supply documentation on their equipment. Contact
Paragon directly:
Paragon Industries
2011 S. Town East Blvd.
Mesquite, TX 75149-1122
(800) 876-4328
(214) 288-7557
-Bill
Bill Buckner e-mail: bbuckner@gsu.edu
Georgia State University http://www.gsu.edu/~couwbb
On Thu, 8 May 1997, DMSUGAR wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> first and foremost, it is so wonderful to be able to reach so many
> knowledgable clay lovers.
>
> I am new to pottery and have recently purchased an old Paragon Electric
> Kiln, I'm just wondering of there is anyone out there with same that is
> willing to share some info. like, what do I do after I plug it in??? I
> purchased it from someone who had no paperwork or info available. Any
> info would be great. Thanks.
> DMSugar@AOL.COM
>
Beverly Cohen on fri 9 may 97
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>first and foremost, it is so wonderful to be able to reach so many
>knowledgable clay lovers.
>
>I am new to pottery and have recently purchased an old Paragon Electric
>Kiln, I'm just wondering of there is anyone out there with same that is
>willing to share some info. like, what do I do after I plug it in??? I
>purchased it from someone who had no paperwork or info available. Any
>info would be great. Thanks.
>DMSugar@AOL.COM
>
I just recently had to junk my faithful Paragon because it would have
cost more to replace the bricks and other elements than it would have
to buy a new one. It is an old 1969 model A88 hobby size.
What model is your kiln? If it's like mine, I have a manual I would be
happy to send to you that would give you most of the information you
need.
Let me know.
Beverly Cohen
bcohen@goldinc.com
http://www.goldinc.com/~bcohen/bcohen.html
Sherry mcDonald Stewart on fri 9 may 97
Could you provide us with more info? Size, perhaps model number, what it
has on it, a sitter, timer, and whether or not you have ever fired a
kiln?
Kirk Morrison on fri 9 may 97
On 8 May 97 at 8:37, DMSUGAR wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> first and foremost, it is so wonderful to be able to reach so many
> knowledgable clay lovers.
>
> I am new to pottery and have recently purchased an old Paragon Electric
> Kiln, I'm just wondering of there is anyone out there with same that is
> willing to share some info. like, what do I do after I plug it in??? I
> purchased it from someone who had no paperwork or info available. Any
> info would be great. Thanks.
> DMSugar@AOL.COM
>
Well send me info on it and I will see what I can do, I have one that
is nearing its 30th bday, works fine I got the books with it. Also
Paragon is still around you could write them for the info also, this
would be the best course. BTW they told me they have parts for every
kiln they made back to 1947.
Kirk
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David Hendley on sat 10 may 97
At 08:37 AM 5/8/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>I am new to pottery and have recently purchased an old Paragon Electric
>Kiln, I'm just wondering of there is anyone out there with same that is
>willing to share some info.
Hi DMSugar -
I likewise bought an old Paragon kiln and got all the instruction I needed
directly from Paragon. I live close by, so I went right to their office and
plant in Mesquite (Dallas) and they were very friendly. They have a pamplet
of about 20-30 pages on how to set up and fire your kiln, as well as
specifications on your particular model. I don't have a phone # handy, but
they have ads in Ceramics Monthly every month.
Happy firing,
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
>
Bill Hall on tue 13 may 97
> Most companies will supply documentation on their equipment. Contact
> Paragon directly:
>
> Paragon Industries
> 2011 S. Town East Blvd.
> Mesquite, TX 75149-1122
>
> (800) 876-4328
> (214) 288-7557
We just split area codes here, so Paragon Industries is now at (972)
288-7557.
Bill
bill@applink.net
Cindy Strnad on mon 15 jan 01
Hi Everybody,
As a few of you know, I've had trouble with my old Paragon kiln and said
some pretty harsh things about it. Which were true. However, Paragon has
made a lot of changes, and their new business manager offered to let me try
their new Viking Kiln if I'd give them an evaluation of it.
After a l-o-t of consideration, I agreed, but I warned them that I'd be
telling the truth. They seemed okay with this, so I agreed to accept their
offer and try out the kiln. I figured, as they seemed to want to make things
right, it was only reasonable for me to give them a second chance. They
provided me with the Viking, a set of their new kiln shelves, and some
firing charts.
The Viking is touted to be a true ^10 kiln. I've fired it to ^10 several
times, though this isn't my preferred firing range, and it's performed
exactly as advertised. I was really holding my breath, afraid it wouldn't be
able to make it, but it did fine, and so did the shelves. I don't know how
they'd hold up to a regular firing schedule at ^10, but they haven't warped
discernibly since I started using them. Another surprise, as they are
inexpensive shelves. My old shelves warp regularly at ^6.
I don't think ^10 is necessarily the best use of an electric kiln because of
the lighter insulation and the high cost of those extra few hundred degrees,
but the Viking kiln definitely did it, without causing me to break a sweat.
It's wonderful for firing to ^6. I program it, and it does it. Exactly as I
told it to. You can't possibly understand how comforting this is unless
you've had a kiln that couldn't quite manage to edge its way up to
temperature. A kiln you never quite knew whether it would be able to melt
the glazes this time, and if so, how well-melted they would be. It's also
nice to be able to program a fire-down schedule and know it will go as
planned.
I admit computer kiln controllers have spoiled me. Though the controller can
be adjusted a certain amount to conform to the bending of your actual cones,
I haven't had to make any changes with this one. You want to be careful not
to fire them during a lightning storm, though--could end up being a pretty
expensive firing if the controller gets hit. We get a lot of sudden
electrical storms here in the summertime, so that can be tricky. A fuse
protects the controller, but still . . . . I always turn off the kiln's
breaker when I'm not firing, just in case.
I did finally manage to get my old TNT-253 to fire consistently to ^6, but I
did it by making changes I'm told the UL wouldn't approve of. The Viking's
elements are individually fused, and seem much more powerful than those of
the old 253. Underwriter's Lab apparently likes this arrangement better. It
works--that's what I like. And the firings I've done have been consistent to
within a half a cone from the top of the kiln to the bottom. That's nice,
too, and rather unexpected, as I didn't get the zone control model.
The one problem I encountered with the Viking is that the (expensive, I'm
told) fire bricks tended to start shearing off after half a dozen firings or
so. Arnold Howard (of Paragon) told me they were having the same problem at
the factory and had changed their brick supplier. He tells me the new fire
bricks are performing better. At any rate, I'd make sure I had the newer
bricks if I were buying one today.
I received two shelf kits because, in the first crate, most of the shelves
had cracks, though some didn't show until several firings. At first, Paragon
wanted me to file a claim with the shipper, but a few days later, they
contacted me and said they'd discovered that they'd received a faulty batch
of shelves from their supplier and would ship me a new shelf kit. The second
kit was just fine.
Last, and in my opinion, extremely important, I've just learned that Arnold
Howard is taking over Paragon's customer service dept. (I don't think he'll
mind my telling you he's soliciting suggestions for any improvements.) I've
always had a good opinion of Arnold, even when I was having trouble with my
first Paragon kiln. He wasn't able to help me much then, as he was in the
education department, but he did what he could.
When Paragon's new manager came on board, I hoped things would change, and I
believe they have. With Arnold in charge of customer service, I'm confident
enough to change my opinion of Paragon, and felt it was only fair to let you
know.
BTW, I don't own any stock--just the kilns--the first one was frustrating,
but the new one is very satisfying.
Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
earthenv@gwtc.net
http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
Arnold Howard on thu 18 jan 01
Dear All:
I appreciate Cindy Strnad's kind letter about Paragon kilns and
about my new position in Paragon's customer service. Cindy always
offers well thought-out posts to Clayart, so her letter means a lot
to me.
In customer service, I'm meeting fascinating people via the
phone--i.e.:
An x-Navy SEAL customer who spent time in Tripoli, Libya (where I
lived as a boy);
A ceramist who was so upset about an over-fire that her voice shook
every time we talked;
An elderly woman ceramic dealer who recovered from a stroke two
years ago and who treats her customers as if they were a son or
daughter.
I look forward to meeting many more.
As Cindy mentioned, I welcome your feedback about Paragon's
customer service--good or bad. We are gradually instituting a
kaizen program at Paragon. (Kaizen is Japanese for constant,
incremental improvements.) This includes customer service.
Please excuse delays in getting an answer to a post. It is *very*
busy here!
With best wishes,
Arnold Howard
Paragon
www.paragonweb.com
--- Cindy Strnad wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> As a few of you know, I've had trouble with my old Paragon kiln
> and said
> some pretty harsh things about it. Which were true. However,
> Paragon has
> made a lot of changes, and their new business manager offered to
> let me try
> their new Viking Kiln if I'd give them an evaluation of it.
>
> After a l-o-t of consideration, I agreed, but I warned them that
> I'd be
> telling the truth. They seemed okay with this, so I agreed to
> accept their
> offer and try out the kiln. I figured, as they seemed to want to
> make things
> right, it was only reasonable for me to give them a second
> chance. They
> provided me with the Viking, a set of their new kiln shelves, and
> some
> firing charts.
>
> The Viking is touted to be a true ^10 kiln. I've fired it to ^10
> several
> times, though this isn't my preferred firing range, and it's
> performed
> exactly as advertised. I was really holding my breath, afraid it
> wouldn't be
> able to make it, but it did fine, and so did the shelves. I don't
> know how
> they'd hold up to a regular firing schedule at ^10, but they
> haven't warped
> discernibly since I started using them. Another surprise, as they
> are
> inexpensive shelves. My old shelves warp regularly at ^6.
>
> I don't think ^10 is necessarily the best use of an electric kiln
> because of
> the lighter insulation and the high cost of those extra few
> hundred degrees,
> but the Viking kiln definitely did it, without causing me to
> break a sweat.
>
> It's wonderful for firing to ^6. I program it, and it does it.
> Exactly as I
> told it to. You can't possibly understand how comforting this is
> unless
> you've had a kiln that couldn't quite manage to edge its way up
> to
> temperature. A kiln you never quite knew whether it would be able
> to melt
> the glazes this time, and if so, how well-melted they would be.
> It's also
> nice to be able to program a fire-down schedule and know it will
> go as
> planned.
>
> I admit computer kiln controllers have spoiled me. Though the
> controller can
> be adjusted a certain amount to conform to the bending of your
> actual cones,
> I haven't had to make any changes with this one. You want to be
> careful not
> to fire them during a lightning storm, though--could end up being
> a pretty
> expensive firing if the controller gets hit. We get a lot of
> sudden
> electrical storms here in the summertime, so that can be tricky.
> A fuse
> protects the controller, but still . . . . I always turn off the
> kiln's
> breaker when I'm not firing, just in case.
>
> I did finally manage to get my old TNT-253 to fire consistently
> to ^6, but I
> did it by making changes I'm told the UL wouldn't approve of. The
> Viking's
> elements are individually fused, and seem much more powerful than
> those of
> the old 253. Underwriter's Lab apparently likes this arrangement
> better. It
> works--that's what I like. And the firings I've done have been
> consistent to
> within a half a cone from the top of the kiln to the bottom.
> That's nice,
> too, and rather unexpected, as I didn't get the zone control
> model.
>
> The one problem I encountered with the Viking is that the
> (expensive, I'm
> told) fire bricks tended to start shearing off after half a dozen
> firings or
> so. Arnold Howard (of Paragon) told me they were having the same
> problem at
> the factory and had changed their brick supplier. He tells me the
> new fire
> bricks are performing better. At any rate, I'd make sure I had
> the newer
> bricks if I were buying one today.
>
> I received two shelf kits because, in the first crate, most of
> the shelves
> had cracks, though some didn't show until several firings. At
> first, Paragon
> wanted me to file a claim with the shipper, but a few days later,
> they
> contacted me and said they'd discovered that they'd received a
> faulty batch
> of shelves from their supplier and would ship me a new shelf kit.
> The second
> kit was just fine.
>
> Last, and in my opinion, extremely important, I've just learned
> that Arnold
> Howard is taking over Paragon's customer service dept. (I don't
> think he'll
> mind my telling you he's soliciting suggestions for any
> improvements.) I've
> always had a good opinion of Arnold, even when I was having
> trouble with my
> first Paragon kiln. He wasn't able to help me much then, as he
> was in the
> education department, but he did what he could.
>
> When Paragon's new manager came on board, I hoped things would
> change, and I
> believe they have. With Arnold in charge of customer service, I'm
> confident
> enough to change my opinion of Paragon, and felt it was only fair
> to let you
> know.
>
> BTW, I don't own any stock--just the kilns--the first one was
> frustrating,
> but the new one is very satisfying.
>
> Cindy Strnad
> Earthen Vessels Pottery
> RR 1, Box 51
> Custer, SD 57730
> USA
> earthenv@gwtc.net
> http://www.earthenvesselssd.com
>
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Linda Stauffer on tue 14 aug 01
I have an old Paragon A 99B that I purchased new in 1976. It is still
working, at least up until yesterday. The little brass connector that
attaches to the element and connects to the switch has come loose. Burned
the end of the element and broken away from the wire that goes to the
switch. I cannot seem to get to paragons site to look for replacement parts.
Does anyone know of the address? I tried www.ParagonWeb.com but it never
loads up.
Please email me off list since the list goes to my school address.
Arnold Howard on wed 15 aug 01
Paragon is having a problem with the www.paragonweb.com site. The
company that developed it went out of business. We should have it
running soon, though. Our new web master is working on it.
In the mean time, please call 800-876-4328 or fax 972-222-0646 for
service.
Thanks,
Arnold Howard
Paragon
--- Linda Stauffer wrote:
> I have an old Paragon A 99B that I purchased new in 1976. It is
> still
> working, at least up until yesterday. The little brass connector
> that
> attaches to the element and connects to the switch has come
> loose. Burned
> the end of the element and broken away from the wire that goes to
> the
> switch. I cannot seem to get to paragons site to look for
> replacement parts.
> Does anyone know of the address? I tried www.ParagonWeb.com but
> it never
> loads up.
>
> Please email me off list since the list goes to my school
> address.
>
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Treasure on wed 6 nov 02
I have been using this Paragon Kiln A82B for about 3 years. It is a manual
kiln to raise the temp and does have a cone sitter. Just recently it quit
firing at cone 6. I did an element check and the top elements are the only
ones getting hot. My question is: Do I need to replace the elements not
getting hot or do you think the bottom switch may have went out? If you
believe it may be the switch- how do I check this? Can I check it before
purchasing new elements?
Kevin Ritter on wed 6 nov 02
It could be the switch or possibly the lower elements have broken apart and
have a gap in them. They snap sometimes with all the stress of firing.
Kevin in NE ohio
Arnold Howard on wed 6 nov 02
The A-82B can be checked with an ohmmeter. If you send your postal
address, I will mail you the ohmmeter instructions for that kiln,
and a wiring diagram.
I'm glad you want to check the kiln before replacing parts. The
problem may be a switch or even just a burned wire.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon
--- Treasure wrote:
> I have been using this Paragon Kiln A82B for about 3 years. It is
> a manual
> kiln to raise the temp and does have a cone sitter. Just
> recently it quit
> firing at cone 6. I did an element check and the top elements
> are the only
> ones getting hot. My question is: Do I need to replace the
> elements not
> getting hot or do you think the bottom switch may have went out?
> If you
> believe it may be the switch- how do I check this? Can I check
> it before
> purchasing new elements?
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Julie Milne on wed 5 jan 05
I think I have a wonderful opportunity to buy a Paragon A-88B kiln for a =
great price ($375 Cdn!!) with all the attachments - shelves, posts, =
"furniture". The woman who used it died 16 years ago after having used =
it for only 5 years previous to that - firing every 2 or 3 months. The =
kiln looks like it has NEVER been fired. I have the Instruction Manual, =
wiring diagram and parts list, but my big question is this:
she used it for ceramics, so only fired to Cone 5 - does anyone know =
if the kiln can be used for stoneware - the Manual doesn't talk about =
anything higher than a cone 5??
Also - I would appreciate any suggestions on setting up this kiln after =
it has not need used for so long.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Julie Milne
milnecon@telusplanet.net
Mcavoy, Barbara on thu 6 jan 05
I went out to paragon on the web and looked it up, it looks as though it
should=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Julie Milne
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:28 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Paragon Kiln
I think I have a wonderful opportunity to buy a Paragon A-88B kiln for a
great price ($375 Cdn!!) with all the attachments - shelves, posts,
"furniture". The woman who used it died 16 years ago after having used
it for only 5 years previous to that - firing every 2 or 3 months. The
kiln looks like it has NEVER been fired. I have the Instruction Manual,
wiring diagram and parts list, but my big question is this:
she used it for ceramics, so only fired to Cone 5 - does anyone know
if the kiln can be used for stoneware - the Manual doesn't talk about
anything higher than a cone 5??
Also - I would appreciate any suggestions on setting up this kiln after
it has not need used for so long.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Julie Milne
milnecon@telusplanet.net
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Carl D Cravens on thu 6 jan 05
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Julie Milne wrote:
> she used it for ceramics, so only fired to Cone 5 - does anyone know
> if the kiln can be used for stoneware - the Manual doesn't talk about
> anything higher than a cone 5??
If you go to and click on "Manuals" in the
menu, you'll be able to download nearly every manual and info sheet
they've ever published about the kiln. (I recently "pre-inherited" an
A-66B from my mother-in-law.)
My A-66B is rated at 2300F, which is actually up above cone 7.
On the side of the control box, there should be a plate with the model and
serial number on it... on that plate it should also list the maximum
temperature the kiln will reach. (At least, there's such a plate on my
35-year-old A66B.)
--
Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net)
If you don't support shareware, who will?
John Rodgers on thu 6 jan 05
Contact Arnold Howard at Paragon Industries in Texas at the address
below for answers to your questions. Nice man.
arnoldhoward@ATT.NET
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Julie Milne wrote:
>I think I have a wonderful opportunity to buy a Paragon A-88B kiln for a great price ($375 Cdn!!) with all the attachments - shelves, posts, "furniture". The woman who used it died 16 years ago after having used it for only 5 years previous to that - firing every 2 or 3 months. The kiln looks like it has NEVER been fired. I have the Instruction Manual, wiring diagram and parts list, but my big question is this:
>
> she used it for ceramics, so only fired to Cone 5 - does anyone know if the kiln can be used for stoneware - the Manual doesn't talk about anything higher than a cone 5??
>
>Also - I would appreciate any suggestions on setting up this kiln after it has not need used for so long.
>
>Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>Julie Milne
>milnecon@telusplanet.net
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
Arnold Howard on thu 6 jan 05
The A-88B was one of Paragon's most popular kilns during the 70s. It is a
25.9 amp kiln with 2 1/2" thick firebricks. It should fire stoneware if you
have a full 240 volts available and the elements are in good condition.
Paragon currently recommends that kilns for stoneware should have 3" thick
firebricks. For this reason, I won't wholeheartedly recommend the A-88B for
stoneware, because the bricks are only 2 1/2" thick.
The kiln needs a 4-wire 240 volt circuit. Some electricians install a 3-wire
circuit and connect the white wire to the green wire at the receptacle. This
is an unsafe practice, because the kiln fires on 120 volts when the switches
are on Low. The 4th wire (grounding) must be separate from the white wire
(line neutral).
You should vacuum the kiln thoroughly. If the kiln has not been subjected to
corrosion from a humid environment, it should work fine as is.
We still have firebricks and elements for the A-88B. However, we can no
longer get the original 4-way rotary switches. The manufacturer discontinued
them years ago. We sell a 4-way switch made in Spain.
A rough guide to the age of the kiln: If the switch box has a wire mesh top,
the kiln is pre-1976. If it has a louvered sheetmetal top and the switch
knobs have a metallic outer rim, the kiln is 1976 - 1980. If the switch
knobs are solid black, it is 1980 or newer.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
arnoldhoward@att.net / www.paragonweb.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie Milne"
I think I have a wonderful opportunity to buy a Paragon A-88B kiln for a
great price ($375 Cdn!!) with all the attachments - shelves, posts,
"furniture". The woman who used it died 16 years ago after having used it
for only 5 years previous to that - firing every 2 or 3 months. The kiln
looks like it has NEVER been fired. I have the Instruction Manual, wiring
diagram and parts list, but my big question is this:
she used it for ceramics, so only fired to Cone 5 - does anyone know if
the kiln can be used for stoneware - the Manual doesn't talk about anything
higher than a cone 5??
Also - I would appreciate any suggestions on setting up this kiln after it
has not need used for so long.
Mark Tigges on thu 6 jan 05
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:27:48PM -0700, Julie Milne wrote:
> I think I have a wonderful opportunity to buy a Paragon A-88B kiln
> for a great price ($375 Cdn!!) with all the attachments - shelves,
> posts, "furniture". The woman who used it died 16 years ago after
> having used it for only 5 years previous to that - firing every 2 or
> 3 months.
If you don't want, I'll buy it, sounds like a great deal.
> The kiln looks like it has NEVER been fired. I have the
> Instruction Manual, wiring diagram and parts list, but my big
> question is this:
> she used it for ceramics, so only fired to Cone 5 - does anyone
> know if the kiln can be used for stoneware - the Manual doesn't
> talk about anything higher than a cone 5?? >
Judge for yourself.
http://www.paragonweb.com/catalog.cfm?type=kiln_detail&item_id=126
[ The page is titled glass kilns, but I found it through the pottery
kilns section ... so I think the page is titled incorrectly. ]
They say maximum 2300F 1260C. So I would say you're fine for pretty
much anything.
> Also - I would appreciate any suggestions on setting up this kiln
> after it has not need used for so long.
I've left my kiln (a virtually identical Olympic just thinner
insulation, and I use mine for cone 6) unused for 5 years, just
plugged it in and went.
Per a recent thread, try and find out if she fired lead glazes in it.
Best regards,
Mark.
pam on thu 6 jan 05
I have one of those pre 1976 A-88Bs, I picked it up for a small amount of
money. It was in my garage for a few months as I did not have an appropriate
electrical hook up. Then, we needed a small electric at the clay guild, to
do some firing for some homeschoolers who had made low fire items. I got a
friend to help me move it to the guild, and much to my delight, my old kiln
worked great at it's new location. I have fired it to cone 6-7 range (7 in
the kiln sitter) with no problems. I love that baby. It is both a blessing
and a pain that it is all manual, and that you have to hang around to turn
it up every couple of hours, and make sure it shuts off when it should, but
the good part of that is you know you have to be in the studio all day, so
you can make lots of pots and pull lots of handles!
Pam
Robert Huskey on sat 8 jan 05
Arnold , could a 3-prong plug be used if a separate ground wire was
run to the panel ? Why ? In order to plug it into a Scutt Kilnmaster
controller .
Thanks , Bob
Huskey -- Tallahassee, Fl. USA
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From: "Arnold Howard"
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Paragon Kiln
>
> The kiln needs a 4-wire 240 volt circuit. Some electricians install a
3-wire
> circuit and connect the white wire to the green wire at the receptacle.
This
> is an unsafe practice, because the kiln fires on 120 volts when the
switches
> are on Low. The 4th wire (grounding) must be separate from the white wire
> (line neutral).
>
Arnold Howard on mon 10 jan 05
Using a 3-wire plug on a Paragon A-series kiln that originally had a 4-wire
plug will void the kiln's UL Listing. Also, you may be violating a local
electric code by wiring your wall outlet as you describe.
At any rate, I will be glad to send you a wiring diagram for your kiln. It
shows how the kiln was wired when it left the factory. Your kiln may have
been altered by a previous owner.
Or you can download wiring diagrams from this link:
http://www.paragonweb.com/catalog.cfm?type=wiring
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
arnoldhoward@att.net / www.paragonweb.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Huskey"
> Arnold , could a 3-prong plug be used if a separate ground wire was
> run to the panel ? Why ? In order to plug it into a Scutt Kilnmaster
> controller .
> From: "Arnold Howard"
>> The kiln needs a 4-wire 240 volt circuit. Some electricians install a
> 3-wire
>> circuit and connect the white wire to the green wire at the receptacle.
> This
>> is an unsafe practice, because the kiln fires on 120 volts when the
> switches
>> are on Low. The 4th wire (grounding) must be separate from the white wire
>> (line neutral).
Steph on sun 26 mar 06
I am looking at buying a Paragon Kiln Model A82B second hand....It was
orginally purchased in 1983 and has never been hooked up and the kiln
furiture is still in the orginal packaging.....Any ideas what this kiln
would have cost new?....What would be a fair used price for this kiln now?
Should there be any problems to be aware of? The kiln has been stored in
the woman house...Any help would be helpful...
Thanks
Dannon Rhudy on sun 26 mar 06
You could get the original cost from Paragon,
probably. What's fair to pay is what you and the
owner can agree upon.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
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Ruth Ballou on mon 27 mar 06
As with any piece of older equipment, I'd be concerned about changes
in design when it comes time to replace elements and/or switches.
Since this kiln has never been used, you may be okay for a while, but
the first element change may prove to be more trouble than it would
be on a newer model kiln. A call to Paragon about what changes have
been made in the last 20+ years might be a good idea. Depending on
what they tell you, I think you'll have a better idea of what to
offer for the kiln.
Ruth Ballou
Belgium
On Mar 27, 2006, at 12:08 AM, Steph wrote:
> I am looking at buying a Paragon Kiln Model A82B second hand....It was
> orginally purchased in 1983 and has never been hooked up and the kiln
> furiture is still in the orginal packaging.....Any ideas what this
> kiln
> would have cost new?....What would be a fair used price for this
> kiln now?
> Should there be any problems to be aware of? The kiln has been
> stored in
> the woman house...Any help would be helpful...
> Thanks
>
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Gary Harvey on mon 27 mar 06
Both the paragon kilns I own are second or even third hand. You might have
to do some repair anyhow because contacts do corrode. If the fire bricks
are in good condition the rest is easy repair. I gave $75 for the box kiln
and octave kiln was free but I bought one years ago and gave $100 for that
one. New prices are averaging $2000 now. Don't have a clue about how much
they were when they were new but it's not important. I suggest that you let
the owner set the price if you think its too high counter offer. Remember
you need to determine the temperature the kiln fires at. Look on the plate
on the side of the kiln and see if it is maximum 2300 degrees or 2600
degrees. The 2300 degree kiln will fire cone 6 with out any trouble. Both
of mine are 2300 degree kilns and I haven't have any problem firing cone 6.
However, if you want to fire hotter you might need a 2600 degree kiln.
That depends of what temperature you intend to fire at. Good luck. Gary
Harvey, Palestine TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steph"
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: Paragon kiln
>I am looking at buying a Paragon Kiln Model A82B second hand....It was
> orginally purchased in 1983 and has never been hooked up and the kiln
> furiture is still in the orginal packaging.....Any ideas what this kiln
> would have cost new?....What would be a fair used price for this kiln now?
> Should there be any problems to be aware of? The kiln has been stored in
> the woman house...Any help would be helpful...
> Thanks
>
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LindaC on mon 27 mar 06
the first person I'd ask about the Paragon is Howard from
Paragon. He won't steer you wrong linda/oh
Stephanie Smalls on wed 29 mar 06
Thanks to everyone for your help in making up my mind.....I bought the kiln.....
Now where does one pay homage to the kiln Gods.....To make sure this has a happy ending.....
Thanks
Steph
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Taylor Hendrix on wed 29 mar 06
You got yourself a Texas kiln there, Ma'am. And you always have happy
endings with a true Texican.
Taylor, in Rockport TEXAS
On 3/29/06, Stephanie Smalls wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for your help in making up my mind.....I bought the ki=
ln.....
> Now where does one pay homage to the kiln Gods.....To make sure this has=
a happy ending.....
> Thanks
> Steph
Gary Harvey on wed 29 mar 06
The Paragon was made in the Dallas Texas Area. Just one Thought. Welcome to
TEXAS. Yahoo. Gary Harvey, Palestine Texas.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephanie Smalls"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Paragon kiln
> Thanks to everyone for your help in making up my mind.....I bought the
> kiln.....
> Now where does one pay homage to the kiln Gods.....To make sure this has
> a happy ending.....
> Thanks
> Steph
>
>
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