BobWicks@aol.com on wed 4 dec 96
I have been looking for a photo ceramic image process that incorporates the
photo image under the glaze and is fired on the ceramic body. I have been
practicing non silver photography for some time and know of some processes
that may work. For example I have been sensitizing iron oxide emulsions with
ammonium bichromate, mixed with gum arabic as a medium and have had fairly
good results. I know it can be done as some years ago I corresponded with a
Tracy Diers from Long Island and he had a remarkable result in the method he
was using. I do not want to use a commercial product. I want to work
generically and understand each step as I go. Tracy Diers used a image that
was floated on water and then lifted from the surface some how and his
results were next to miraculous. This was so long ago, I doubt if he is
still around. I would be interested in corresponding with anyone who has any
knowledge or experience in this area and will share the results in the
finished study.
Bobwicks@aol.com Dec.3, 1996
Patrick & Lynn Hilferty on sat 7 dec 96
Apparently carbon transfer can work, though I don't know much more about
the process than the name. I've been playing with an idea that uses photo
silkscreen emulsion as a medium fo E-Z Stroke underglazes and the result
was encouraging....
Patriick
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>I have been looking for a photo ceramic image process that incorporates the
>photo image under the glaze and is fired on the ceramic body. I have been
>practicing non silver photography for some time and know of some processes
>that may work. For example I have been sensitizing iron oxide emulsions with
>ammonium bichromate, mixed with gum arabic as a medium and have had fairly
>good results. I know it can be done as some years ago I corresponded with a
>Tracy Diers from Long Island and he had a remarkable result in the method he
>was using. I do not want to use a commercial product. I want to work
>generically and understand each step as I go. Tracy Diers used a image that
>was floated on water and then lifted from the surface some how and his
>results were next to miraculous. This was so long ago, I doubt if he is
>still around. I would be interested in corresponding with anyone who has any
>knowledge or experience in this area and will share the results in the
>finished study.
>
>Bobwicks@aol.com Dec.3, 1996
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Belmont, CA 94002
E-Mail: philferty@earthlink.net
Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~philferty/
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BobWicks@aol.com on sun 8 dec 96
Hi Pat:
Thanks for your response re: carbon printing. The big difference between
carbon printing and gum bichromate printing is that the carbon prints are a
transfer process whereas the bichromate process is a direct print.
Qualiaty-wise carbon prints are a full scale tonal reproduction which is
better that present day silver bromide prints. Even when using poly contrast
paper you must burn and dodge to come even close to full scale results. This
is why carbon prints are about the only type of photos used in museum
collections, besides the fact that they are archieval. I have a report from
a firm in Germany that did some tests on carbon prints and they state that
the prints will show no changes for a period of 800 years. This company has
elabnorate testing equikpment that can accellerate time to give this
prognostic report.
I was able to get to a library yesterday I did indeed find Tracy Diers listed
under Books in print. I has spoken to him on ham radio about 20 years ago so
I looked him uip on a ham radio listing. He is 82 years old, and ZI havbe no
idea what shape he is in, but I think I'll call him this next week and see if
I can get more information from him. In the meantime I tjhink if I'm
persistent, I'll get all the info I need to proceed to making carbon prints
on pottery. That's what this is all about.
If you find out anyhthing that you feel will be helpful, please get in touch
with me. Hope you and the family have a happy holiday season.
Bobwicks@aol.com
Dana Henson on wed 22 jul 98
Hello Sandra,
Was is Charles Berger? "Ultrastable" photo images on
clay...http://www.ultrastable.com. I think that I got this website off of
Clayart about 6-8 months ago.
Dana Henson
Bob Wicks on wed 22 jul 98
In a message dated 7/21/98 12:20:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
KBRV36B@PRODIGY.COM writes:
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Lorca
I just rembered, there is a man in Canada who has been working on a
book detailing ceram/photo processes. Only problem is I can't
remember his name. I found him on one of the photo related web sites.
I'll search my records and see if I can come up with his name and e-
mail address. This was about a year ago so it may take me some time
to find it.
meanwhile let us know if you find anything.
Sandy B
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Sandy:
The person you are looking for is Luis Nadeau. nadeau@nbnet.nb.ca He has
been researching the carbon process which is the ultimate process in
photography. His book was supposed to be completed some time ago. To the
best of my knowledge it is still incomplete.
I have been working in photo imagery for some time and have done some on
pottery however it was not fired. There are several types of ceramic photo
imagery: those that are only applied and not fired on the clay, those that use
the Eastman Kodak process which is also not fired, carbon process which is
fired and as durable as the clay itself. There is even a photocyan process
that was published recently that you might be interested in.
Bob
Nanci Bishof on tue 28 jul 98
In a message dated 7/18/98 6:02:59 PM, rburkett@ROHAN.SDSU.EDU writes:
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Try Calumet, they're a photo equipment supplier. If they don't have it they
probably can lead you to someone who does. 1-800-Calumet or NYC: 212 989 8500
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