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pink cone 10?

updated fri 28 feb 97

 

Amy Yanalunas on wed 19 feb 97

Hi!
I'm looking for a pink glossy (pale pink to orangy or yellowy pink) cone
10 reduction glaze. Is it possible?

JULIE ATWOOD on thu 20 feb 97

Heh heh heh. You and the rest of the world want a pretty pink for ^10.
The best I've run into as of yet has been a matte green that often, for
no particular, repeatable, predictable reason, went pink in spots. It
didn't matter if it was thick or thin, or if there was heavy reduction or
not, it just FELT like going pink instead of green.

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Amy Yanalunas wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi!
> I'm looking for a pink glossy (pale pink to orangy or yellowy pink) cone
> 10 reduction glaze. Is it possible?
>

JULIE ATWOOD on thu 20 feb 97

OK I have an electronic foot in my mouth. I did NOT mean to send the
message I sent. I looked at it, said NOPE don't want to send that...but
then for some reason, I accidentally sent it. I might as well finish it.
What I would have said if I had decided to finish it was that with the
help of some barium (strontium for toxic free glazes), a little voo doo
and other things, there have been some pinks around...I just have never
gotten my hands on any good recipes...If anyone has any, I would be
interested, too...:) Thanks!

(sigh) One more foot in my mouth, and I'll need surgery to get it out...
(or maybe I'll leave it there...pretty hard to talk around a foot)

Julie

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Amy Yanalunas wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi!
> I'm looking for a pink glossy (pale pink to orangy or yellowy pink) cone
> 10 reduction glaze. Is it possible?
>

Akita-jin \"Lee Love\" on fri 21 feb 97


I've put mason stain in shino that stays salmon pink in a neutral
atmosphere, toastier in reduction.

Lee

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Richard Aerni on fri 21 feb 97

JULIE ATWOOD wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Heh heh heh. You and the rest of the world want a pretty pink for ^10.
> The best I've run into as of yet has been a matte green that often, for
> no particular, repeatable, predictable reason, went pink in spots. It
> didn't matter if it was thick or thin, or if there was heavy reduction or
> not, it just FELT like going pink instead of green.
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Amy Yanalunas wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Hi!
> > I'm looking for a pink glossy (pale pink to orangy or yellowy pink) cone
> > 10 reduction glaze. Is it possible?
> >

It's very possible. You may want to check the clayart archives on this,
as there was a thread about chrome/tin pinks a while back. I get pinks
using a combination of chrome, rutile, and iron in overlaid glazes, all
used in combination with a wood ash glaze, heavy in calcium to begin
with, to which about 10% whiting is added. Tom Buck and Ron Roy have
posted on the limits of this in the past, though I just tend to rely on
happenstance (which is probably why one particular combo isn't working
now...). Dick Lehman posted a cone 10 reduction pink glaze in a CM
article a few years back called "Steal This Glaze" or something like
that, that I have used with good success. It is simple and uses the same
oxides I'd stumbled upon in my glaze work. Check it out.

Richard Aerni
Bloomfield, NY revelling in the winter thaw to get some glazing done...

sam wainford on fri 21 feb 97

JULIE ATWOOD wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> OK I have an electronic foot in my mouth. I did NOT mean to send the
> message I sent. I looked at it, said NOPE don't want to send that...but
> then for some reason, I accidentally sent it. I might as well finish it.
> What I would have said if I had decided to finish it was that with the
> help of some barium (strontium for toxic free glazes), a little voo doo
> and other things, there have been some pinks around...I just have never
> gotten my hands on any good recipes...If anyone has any, I would be
> interested, too...:) Thanks!
>
> (sigh) One more foot in my mouth, and I'll need surgery to get it out...
> (or maybe I'll leave it there...pretty hard to talk around a foot)
>
> Julie
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Amy Yanalunas wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Hi!
> > I'm looking for a pink glossy (pale pink to orangy or yellowy pink) cone
> > 10 reduction glaze. Is it possible?
> >
Whew, I really had to dig deep for this one. This is a glaze that went
pink at cone 9/10 reduction which we used back in the late sixties at
Rhode Island School of Design. I think it was developed by Ian Nelson,
a Scottish potter, who taught there then.
I hesitate to even pass it along since I'm not entirely sure of the
decimal place of the feldspar. My notes are faded. I'm pretty sure this
is right though. It uses the old Buckspar, but I have substituted Custer
and K-200 in the recipe "as is" without recalculating.

K-Base cone 9-10 reduction

Buckspar 224 (? 22.4, 2.24)
Whiting 50.6
Barium Carb 20.6
Eng. China 20.6 (I've used EPK or GRolleg)
Mag. Carb 8.4
This glaze is a grayish green or blue depending on claybody when
applied thin. Thick it goes pink. Kind of snowy looking and lush. It
is matt, but have seen it run to a shiny lush pink when fired hot. It's
a bit unpredictable, but I've never had it run off the pot.
While we're on the pink subject, here's another one I picked up in San
Francisco around 1976. It was developed by Fred Wollschlager (sp?).
Fred's Pink cone 8-9 light reduction or oxidation
Kingman 70(custer)
ball 15
talc 10
whiting 5
L560 10 (I have no idea what stain this is. Sorry)
This is a shiny, almost transparent pink. a pink pink. I've tried some
mason stains but haven't fine tuned it yet.
Hope these provide a start in the right direction. Sam

Rick Sherman on fri 21 feb 97

Julie: Can that green glaze which you say sometimes is pink in spots
be a chrome-tin pink. It sounds much like it. 1% chrome in a glaze
with tin oxide can turn pink. One has to be careful because the
chrome is volatile at the higher temperatures and can give pink
flashes to other pots in the kiln. Does your matte green do this?
RS

COOPJ@aol.com on fri 21 feb 97

I use a Cone 10 Shino glaze sometimes with 10% Mason 6020 Pink that fires out
very pink. 6020 is a very refractory stain so is a good choice for hi fire.
I suppose most any hi fire base white glaze would probably work, such as
Leach White or...

Jim Cooper

June Perry on sat 22 feb 97

Dear Richard:

Can you please post the formula for "Steal This Glaze"? I don't have any
back issues of CM to research!


Regards,
June Perry


In a message dated 97-02-21 09:03:14 EST, you write:

<< I get pinks
using a combination of chrome, rutile, and iron in overlaid glazes, all
used in combination with a wood ash glaze, heavy in calcium to begin
with, to which about 10% whiting is added. Tom Buck and Ron Roy have
posted on the limits of this in the past, though I just tend to rely on
happenstance (which is probably why one particular combo isn't working
now...). Dick Lehman posted a cone 10 reduction pink glaze in a CM
article a few years back called "Steal This Glaze" or something like
that, that I have used with good success. It is simple and uses the same
oxides I'd stumbled upon in my glaze work. Check it out.

Richard Aerni
Bloomfield, NY revelling in the winter thaw to get some glazing done...
>>

JULIE ATWOOD on sat 22 feb 97

::trying to remember recipe:: I am...not sure of the recipe right now. I
keep reminding myself to look it up. It's actually very nice. ::tries
to remember again:: I really don't think it has ever been a jumping
glaze, but then, since it's generally new, it hasn't had enough firings
to show us all it's bad sides yet.

Julie

(who is still regretting that first flippant post she accidentally sent)

On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Rick Sherman wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Julie: Can that green glaze which you say sometimes is pink in spots
> be a chrome-tin pink. It sounds much like it. 1% chrome in a glaze
> with tin oxide can turn pink. One has to be careful because the
> chrome is volatile at the higher temperatures and can give pink
> flashes to other pots in the kiln. Does your matte green do this?
> RS
>

Richard Aerni on sun 23 feb 97

> Dear Richard:
>
> Can you please post the formula for "Steal This Glaze"?

Hi June,

I should have thought of that initially...here it is:

Lehman Purple Matte Cone 9-10 Reduction

Whiting 24.0
Custer Spar 61.0
EPK 15.0
________________
100.0

Chrome Oxide 1.0
Cobalt Carb .5
Rutile 5.0
Bentonite 4.5 (for single fire)

This is pretty darn pink! I could tell you what I do to temper the color
and render it palatable to my tastes, but that would be cheating...I'd be
curious what other folks do to make it work for them. I'll wait a decent
interval and if others are willing to talk about what they do with it,
I'll spill my beans too.

Richard Aerni


>
> << I get pinks
> using a combination of chrome, rutile, and iron in overlaid glazes, all
> used in combination with a wood ash glaze, heavy in calcium to begin
> with, to which about 10% whiting is added. Tom Buck and Ron Roy have
> posted on the limits of this in the past,