Jo Anne Boyd on sun 24 nov 96
Greetings!
I'm searching for references to pottery in poetry for one of my ceramics
students. I encourage my students to incorporate their interest in ceramics
with
their other subject areas. This student needs two more poetry references. I
was able to recall Keats' "Ode to a Grecian Urn" and references in "Romans"
before I went "dry". I can recall an American Indian poem about "precious
vessels" or
"broken vessels" but not a source or author. Does anyone know any Haiku that
refers to pottery? I'm hitting the library tomarrow (as is my student), but
they way this student project hit me without me being able to respond with
abundant
resources bothers me! I'd be grateful for your learned contributions.
Many thanks,
J. Boyd
Robert Alexander Fromme on sun 24 nov 96
At 06:57 PM 11/23/96 -0500, AlJoB1@AOL.com wrote:
>Greetings!
>I'm searching for references to pottery in poetry for one of my ceramics
>students. I encourage my students to incorporate their interest in ceramics
>with their other subject areas.
You may like the Robaiyyate by Omar Khayyam..
The Robaiyyat is a collection of some 150 persian quatrains and was written
by Omar Khayyam (1048-1122). Omar Khayyam is the most famous Persian
mathematician and poet. His Robaiyyat is
translated to more than 40 languages. Robaiyyate Omar Khayyam was
translated to English by Edward Fitzgerald (1809-1883). I also favor the
translation by Robert Graves. If I remember correctly, the poem has one
speaking to his clay bowl or mug as if it were a symbol for fleeting life
and love. There is a wonderful reference in it to clay...the bowl was made
of potters clay...."from clay, from hands of kings and beggers feet"...etc.
etc."
Also check out Jeramiah, Chapter 18 for an example of the potter's craft
as a metaphor for the way the Lord will remake his earlier failed efforts. I
am not sure if the origional was in verse or prose.
Robert Alexander Fromme on sun 24 nov 96
At 06:57 PM 11/23/96 -0500, AlJoB1@AOL.com wrote:
>Greetings!
>I'm searching for references to pottery in poetry for one of my ceramics
>students. I encourage my students to incorporate their interest in ceramics
>with their other subject areas.
Here is a section of The Rubayyat of Omar Khayyam
Translated into English in 1859
by Edward FitzGerald
You can see a copy of the poem at:
http://rook3.cit.ics.saitama-u.ac.jp/khayyam.txt
snip....parts deleted.....
XXXIV
Then to the rolling Heav'n itself I cried,
Asking, "What Lamp had Destiny to guide
Her little Children stumbling in the Dark?"
And -- "A blind Understanding!" Heav'n replied.
XXXV.
Then to the Lip of this poor earthen Urn
I lean'd, the secret Well of Life to learn:
And Lip to Lip it murmur'd -- "While you live,
Drink! -- for, once dead, you never shall return."
XXXVI.
I think the Vessel, that with fugitive
Articulation answer'd, once did live,
And merry-make, and the cold Lip I kiss'd,
How many Kisses might it take -- and give!
XXXVII.
For in the Market-place, one Dusk of Day,
I watch'd the Potter thumping his wet Clay:
And with its all obliterated Tongue
It murmur'd -- "Gently, Brother, gently, pray!"
XXXVIII.
And has not such a Story from of Old
Down Man's successive generations roll'd
Of such a clod of saturated Earth
Cast by the Maker into Human mould?
XXXIX.
Ah, fill the Cup: -- what boots it to repeat
How Time is slipping underneath our Feet:
Unborn To-morrow, and dead Yesterday,
Why fret about them if To-day be sweet!
hope this helps......
Bob
Jean Lehman on mon 25 nov 96
*When Clay Sings*
by Byrd Baylor
This is a marvelous little book -- basically in poem form -- a favorite of
mine...
Published in 1972 by Charles Scribner's Sons, New York.
One segment:
"They say that every piece of clay is a piece of someone's life.
They even say it has its own small voice and sings in its own way."
And another:
"They say
that even now
the wind sometimes
finds
one of those songs
still in the clayand lifts it out
and carries it
down the canyon
and across
the hills."
Mark Bahti wrote a small book called *Pueblo Stories and Storytellers*
about the clay storyteller figures. Written in 1988, published by Treasure
Chest Publications, 1802 W. Grant Rd., Suite #121, PO Box 5250, Tucson, AZ
85703-0250
You might also check out the work of M.C. Richards, poet, potter, philosopher...
As I recall, she ties poetry and clay together... at any rate she would be
a good resource.
I think there were some Haiku and other poetry that appeared here on the
list a while back... maybe someone has them. Umm... there is also a
biblical reference to the potter's house...
Good luck in your quest.
Jean
j_lehman@acad.FandM.EDU (that's an _underscore_ not a hyphen)
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I'm searching for references to pottery in poetry for one of my ceramics
>students. I encourage my students to incorporate their interest in ceramics
>with their other subject areas. This student needs two more poetry
>references. I
>was able to recall Keats' "Ode to a Grecian Urn" and references in "Romans"
>before I went "dry". I can recall an American Indian poem about "precious
>vessels" or "broken vessels" but not a source or author. Does anyone know
>any Haiku that
>refers to pottery?
>J. Boyd
Michael McDowell on mon 25 nov 96
Jo Anne,
One poem that I can think of is "Keramos" . I believe it's by Henry Wadsworth
Longfellow. Definitely worth looking up!
Michael McDowell
Whatcom County, WA, USA
Peggy Heer on mon 25 nov 96
Hi J. There is a book called 'The Art Of Earth' by Rona Murray and
Walter Dexter.
First edition Nov. 1979
Second edition April 1980
ISBN 0-919462-86-3
Cover has a pot by Paul Soldner, Raku pot, approx 18".(USA) Photo taken by
the artist.
Published by SONO NIS PRESS
1745 Blanshard Street, Victoria, B.C., Canada
Morriss Printing Company Ltd. Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.
I realize this may not be in your library so if I can help with the poems
in any way please post me. Each page/pot has a pottery poem with it. It's
fine!
As Always in Clay Peggy
This student needs two more poetry references. I
I'm hitting the library tomarrow (as is my student), but
>J. Boyd
Peggy Heer / Heer Pottery E-Mail p4337@connect.ab.ca
Edmonton AB, Canada
http://www.ffa.ucalgary.ca/artists/pheer/
TYLERCD@gov.ns.ca on mon 25 nov 96
Look for The Poetry of the Earth by Rona Murray. She is a prof of Eng Lit
at Univeristy of Victoria, BC, and her husband is a well known potter.
The book came out about 10 years ago and is an anthology of words
about clay and photos of pots.
My favourite is Dr Johnson's retort to Boswell, who was maintaining
against Johnson that the Chinese were civilised. Boswell says, "They
have arts". Johnson, in what he obviously believes is refutation, says,
"They have pottery!"
Betsy Parker on tue 26 nov 96
Hi, JoAnne - Try Zen and the Art of Pottery. It cites a quote from Kabir's
poem," The Clay Jug" and also Wallace Stevens piece," Anecdote of the Jar."
I also found a poem called "Non-Being" from The Way of Virtue in a book
called The Jade Flute, Chinese Poems in Prose. If you are unable to find
these and want me to type them out fully to you, just let me know. Hope this
helps.
~Betsy
ARTMOLIN@ACS.EKU.EDU on tue 26 nov 96
From: IN%"dannon@koyote.com" 24-NOV-1996 13:27:26.55
Subj: Poetry and Pottery
Jo Anne,
There are several stanzas of The Rubaiyyat Of Omar Kayyam which
have references to pots/potters. It is a long poem; they are somewhere
in the middle, at least most of them are. There are several references
even to specific kinds/sizes of pots, for instance a Sufi pipkin, etc.
They are wonderful metaphors, may be useful. Tell the student to look=20
for one of the later translations; (there are MANY), the earlier ones are=
not=20
quite so well done.
Dannon Rhudy
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Greetings!
>I'm searching for references to pottery in poetry for one of my ceramics
>students. I encourage my students to incorporate their interest in=
ceramics
>with
>they way this student project hit me without me being able to respond with
>abundant
>resources bothers me! I'd be grateful for your learned contributions.
>
>Many thanks,
>J. Boyd
>
>
kathy hill on sat 30 nov 96
Potter's Companion compiled by Ronald Larsen is a wonderful book full
of poetry,stories,commentaries.
Michele Dorff on mon 2 dec 96
If you're interested in a Biblical passage look to II Corinthians 4:7.
Michele Dorff
Coe College
mdorff@coe.edu
ABB tribune on sat 15 jul 00
Poetry and pottery, two arts inseparable for centuries. The very famous
Erasmus Q. Cornillon, potter and french ceramicist living in the town of
Rouen during the17th century, had the habit of reciting verse written by
Fran=E7ois Villon, massaging and caressing his clay while throwing
His incomparable works of engineering and artistic creation are in the
majority
of the large European museums. He wrote many poems himself, of which =
some
appeared in collections under the pseudonym " Terraternatus, l'=E2me =
=E9prouv=E9e
de la terre" or under the generic name " Terra nostra, anno 1693-1702 ".
Some of these poems, of which the famous " Ode =E0 la glaise ", have =
been
rewritten
(plagiarized) nowadays by talented writers not much disturbed by =
copyright
laws and the belonging of these poems to pottery world heritage. Can the
world of pottery, frustrated by these practices, defend itself? Are =
there on
Clayart people ready to help us save the memory of =C9rasmus and to =
restore
to favor his deeds by giving us pieces of advice and ideas?
Clayarters, thank you for your time.
Gerard Carriere on sun 30 jul 00
Would be interested in seeing some of Erasmus'poetry. G=E9rard =E0 No=EBl=
ville,
who has written some poetry on clay and pottery:=A8''The Clay, an epic
poem'', a long poem about the origin of clay and my relation to it and th=
e
mystery of the Universe. Do you have the Ode =E0 la glaise ?
Thanks. G=E9rard
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From: ABB tribune
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Poetry and pottery
Date: 15 juillet, 2000 15:06
Poetry and pottery, two arts inseparable for centuries. The very famous
Erasmus Q. Cornillon, potter and french ceramicist living in the town of
Rouen during the17th century, had the habit of reciting verse written by
Fran=E7ois Villon, massaging and caressing his clay while throwing
His incomparable works of engineering and artistic creation are in the
majority
of the large European museums. He wrote many poems himself, of which some
appeared in collections under the pseudonym " Terraternatus, l'=E2me =E9p=
rouv=E9e
de la terre" or under the generic name " Terra nostra, anno 1693-1702 ".
Some of these poems, of which the famous " Ode =E0 la glaise ", have been
rewritten
(plagiarized) nowadays by talented writers not much disturbed by copyrigh=
t
laws and the belonging of these poems to pottery world heritage. Can the
world of pottery, frustrated by these practices, defend itself? Are there
on
Clayart people ready to help us save the memory of =C9rasmus and to rest=
ore
to favor his deeds by giving us pieces of advice and ideas?
Clayarters, thank you for your time.
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