Barbara Sansing on tue 30 apr 96
Precious Metal Clay is certainly precious even if it is not
clay. For those of you who were not fortunate enough to see the
presentation at NCECA, PMC is actually granular metal (silver,
gold or platinum) in a clay-like base. Formulated originally
for jewelers as a supple material usable in a multitude of
forms, it occurred to the US Representative that it might be
attractive to potters. Hence the NCECA show.
I had the opportunity to work with about one ounce of the silver
material. Retail cost is about $32.00. The actual weight
combined with the "clay" is about 4 ounces, or a disc of about
2" in diameter by 1/2" thick.
Since sculpted pinch pots are my specialty, I immediately
pinched a small vessel. It was then that I discovered that this
substance was not as clay-like as I'd hoped. It turned out to
be quite rubbery, which made it difficult to retain a pinched
shape. Although it dried and cracked not unlike a
porcelain-type clay, it was easily repaired and regenerated with
water, as clay would be.
I finally reworked the clay into a small slab. And built my
small, sculpted vessel from that. I was able to alter the form
using wooden sculpting tools and finished a piece 1 1/2" high by
2" wide with a 1" diameter opening.
It dried without shrinking to resemble bone dry earthenware.
I then fired it to cone 010 in a test kiln on a bed of alumina.
When it had cooled, I was disappointed to see that it still
looked like bone dry earthenware, although quite a bit smaller.
It had shrunk to about half it's original size. I immediately
noticed, as I picked it up, it's weight. It still weighed about
4 ounces. I took a dremel brush to it and found that the thin
coating of white powdery substance was removed leaving the
shiney sliver surface.
Upon shrinking, this material retained all of the subtleties
of my sculpting. I was pleased to see that the form remained as
sharp as it had appeared in the leather hard state and had not
lost any of the detail.
It's an interesting piece, this small silver vessel. It's
probably appropriate for the miniature marketplace. I would
have liked to have had a larger quantity to experiment with.
My biggest concern, while working with this comparitively
expensive product was that I dare not waste any. This
prohibited the kind of daring I would ordinarily take with clay.
Therefore, I consider this piece less exciting than it could be.
With a budget large enough to allow the same type of
experimentation that my journey into clay has been, I feel
certain that I might be able to produce some exciting work.
However, I will set this new material aside for the time being
in favor of my continuing sojurn into natural clay.
I'll be glad to answer any questions regarding Precious Metal
Clay. It's available through River Gems & Findings,
6901 Washington NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109 Tel 800-443-6766.
barbara@aoi.ultranet.com on sat 25 jan 97
PMC is stocked at: Rio Grande Gems & Findings
6901 Washington, NE
Albuquerque, NM 87109
Tel. 1-800-443-6766
Fax 1-800-648-3499
Howard on wed 19 feb 97
Hello! Does anyone know of a source for something called "precious metal
clay" ??? I have been searching the internet but I haven't been able to
find anything! I have heard it is sourced in Japan. Thank you for any
help!
Kelly Luick
axner@accessorl.net
Linda Burns on tue 25 feb 97
Dear Kelly,
You asked about precious metal clay......I have seen it advertised in Rio
Grande catalog (800-443-6766). It comes in 1 ounce size, sterling silver
and gold...the cost varies.....$35 for silver.......$230 for gold.
hope this helps.
Linda
Willowtree Designs,Baltimore
Dana Carlson on sat 31 jan 98
I've been playing with Precious Metal Clay for awhile now and have really
taken to it. I know the product has been pitched more toward jewelers, their
magazines, etc. Most of the potters I've talked to have heard of it, and are
vaguely curious but not inclined to actually try it. Is a simple lack of
information in the way, maybe?
Here are my questions: If YOU were inclined to try it, what would you want to
do with it? Add it to the rim of a cup? Make a teeny bowl? Make jewelry
with the same character your vessels have? And what information would you
need to have in hand before taking the plunge?
I'm doing workshops with jewelry people, and I've been toying with the idea of
doing the same from the clay angle, only I'm not sure what that angle is,
exactly (is there one?). Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
Dana
Grimmer on sun 1 feb 98
Dana,
I did some research with PMC as part of a grant from Mitsubishi
Metals for a presentation at NCECA a couple of years ago. I thought
that PMC was quite good for filling cracks in decorative vessels.
The final shrinkage is quite high, up to 50%, and dependant on
firing temperature. I don't recommend going above ^018 of firing
slowly. The PMC will be white upon removal from the kiln. Simply
burnish with a wooden pointer or a soft wire bruch to the desired
shine.
The stuff is expensive, but a little goes a long way.
steve grimmer
marion illinois
Dana Carlson on sun 1 feb 98
The "what it is" for those who asked:
It's made by Mitsubishi and is being imported by Rio Grande, the jewelry
supply company in Albuquerque. In the US, it's available in pure silver or
pure gold. The pure metal particles are mixed with a non-toxic binder that
gives it the working properties of... porcelain? It's a little stickier. The
non-toxic stuff burns away during firing and you are left with fused metal.
Pure metal. Firing temperature is 1650F/900C for the silver, 1800F/1000C for
the gold. Soaking for two hours at temperature is recommended (makes it as
hard as possible). It shrinks 24% in size during firing (a bit more than
traditional clay). As it comes from the kiln, the surface is non-reflecting
white (silver) or yellow (gold), and can be burnished (high shine) or brass-
brushed (for a shiny, matt finish). It can be thrown (I've done it). It's
porous, so hollow forms need no air vents. Pigments and clay bodies can be
mixed into it. It can be applied to fired clay (I haven't tried this yet). A
few gems (CZ's, synthetic Corundum) can handle the heat and can be imbedded
before firing. The price is based on the precious metal content - 1 Troy oz.
of silver clay (1/2"x1"x1-1/2", approximately) is around $20-$30 depending on
how much you buy.
Sorry to be long-winded. It's like trying to explain what stoneware is, and
what can be done with it.
My questions were: If you were inclined to try it, what would you want to do
with it? Add it to the rim of a cup? Make a teeny bowl? Make jewelry with
the same character your vessels have? And what information would you need to
have in hand before taking the plunge? (I've done workshops from the jewelry
angle, and would like to do it from the ceramic angle as well - any input will
be greatly appreciated)
Thanks!
Dana
Carol Ratliff on sun 1 feb 98
Dana,
I'm interested but don't know enough to even suggest its use. Where are you
located & what kind of fee would you charge to give a workshop on precious
metal clay to Ceramic Artists of San Diego.....show us a whole variety of uses
& everyone would be happy.
I'd like to suggest writting up a paragraph or two on the product and make up
a flyer with photos of finished work? I'll run this by our board & I bet they
will ask when you could do it.
carol Ratliff
San Diego
Leslie Ihde on sun 1 feb 98
Dana-
What is precious metal clay? What is it normally used for? Is it fired
and glazed as is regular clay. Without even knowing what it is, it is
hard to answer your questions.
Leslie
judy motzkin on tue 3 feb 98
I have worked with PMC on my own and with my colleague,
Shellie Brooks. I have used it as a model making material for
jewelry that does have some elements that are reflective of my other
clay work. I have also used PMC as an element in some mixed media
assemblages.
Shellie Brooks is teaching a workshop this spring at the Worcester
Center for Crafts. Her background is as a potter and she has been a
jeweler for some time now, using PMC and polymer clays (fimo, etc.)
She is the first person I've seen use the material with a clay
person's sensibility. I think also Ornament Magazine is doing a
feature on her work.
Contact the Worcester Center in Worcester Ma for more info.
jem
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lreid on tue 3 feb 98
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Dana, I belong to that group that has heard of precious metal clay and am =
sort
of
interested in using it for ceramic jewelry. What have you done with it in=
the
jewelry
area?
I have been wondering about inlaying it into clay. Would it be durable: =
not
flake out?
What about using it to =22set=22 a ceramic =22gem=22?
Curious in Vermont-
Liisa Reid
reidpots=40together.net
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Dana Carlson on wed 4 feb 98
Lisa,
I've been experimenting with lots of different jewelry-type things. A hollow
cone, for instance, that dangles from an earwire or a hollow ball that slides
onto a neckchain. I use press molds for detailed textures. Most of what I've
done has (corundum, CZ, and spinel only) stones imbedded. I antique
everything, and polish it up so it sparkles.
On the clay-oriented side, I tried raku-ing a pendant the other day. I mixed
the raku glaze with enamel to bring the glaze/metal fit more in line. Fired
to 1650F. The reduction did nothing to the metal, but the glaze flashed just
like it was supposed to. Very promising.
I haven't haven't tried inlaying with it yet, so I'm definitely not the one
to talk to.
Setting ceramic "gems", though, I can address. They'd survive the heat, so
the thing you'd need to figure out is how deep to imbed them. Because PMC
shrinks down around whatever is imbedded, if the "gem" isn't stuffed in far
enough, it may pop out. I've done it with egyptian paste pieces.
Dana
Dana Carlson on wed 4 feb 98
Jem,
I'll be looking forward to seeing what Shellie Brooks has done with it.
Ornament seems to be doing a series of articles on PMC right now. Kathleen
Dustin was in a recent issue, using PMC pieces with polymer clay. I gather
she was a potter in the way-back. Her metalwork made me think of fancy,
pulled, porcelain handles. Swishy.
Is your work somewhere where I could find it?
It's interesting to see what different backgrounds bring to bear. Though it
looks like most everyone is still using it for jewelry.
Dana Carlson
Barbara Lewis on thu 5 feb 98
Dana, I talked to you some months ago after doing a search on the www for
precious metal clay and came across your site -- remember? Anyway, I guess
the reason I think in terms of jewelry with the PMC is because of the cost.
Although the cost goes down significantly when you order larger quantities,
getting enough people together who are interested hasn't been a possibility.
The Art League School at the Torpedo Factory in Old Town Alexandria,
Virginia will be offering a class in the Summer on PMC. I'm going to sign
up. I would love to keep a diaglog going on this seemingly wonderful
material. Barbara
At 09:03 AM 2/4/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Jem,
> I'll be looking forward to seeing what Shellie Brooks has done with it.
>Ornament seems to be doing a series of articles on PMC right now. Kathleen
>Dustin was in a recent issue, using PMC pieces with polymer clay. I gather
>she was a potter in the way-back. Her metalwork made me think of fancy,
>pulled, porcelain handles. Swishy.
> Is your work somewhere where I could find it?
> It's interesting to see what different backgrounds bring to bear.
Though it
>looks like most everyone is still using it for jewelry.
>
>Dana Carlson
>
Barbara Lewis
WellSpring ClayWorks
5412 Well Spring Road
La Plata, MD 20646
blewis@crosslink.net
(301) 932-3915
millie carpenter on thu 5 feb 98
there is an article in the Winter 97 issue of "Ornament" on PMC. one
person did beads that were made of colored clay and the PMC. But the
sentence that makes me wonder about it was that said that it was metal
suspended in an organic binder, I thought that it was in a polemer like
sculpey according to another article, and I wondered about the fumes
when it burned out. the other thing is that it has a shrinkage of 30%
firing at 900 C. so it seems like it would be a real hassle getting
things set so that they would come together what with different
shrinkage rates of the PMC and Clay.
I think that it does offer a nice alturnative to casting metal if you
want some one of a kind pieces.
Millie in Md. where I am glad that the rain is not snow.
judy motzkin on sat 7 feb 98
The metal is suspended in an organic binder, not a polymer. It does
burn out. The result is more porous than the usual metal casting. It
does shrink, thay say 30%, but I think it can be up to 40 or 50%. The
shrinkage is can be an advantage for jewelry applications.
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Dana Carlson on tue 10 feb 98
I have yet to see a piece shrink 50%. It's been around 25%. If you look at
the technical information, you'll see that there are two seperate "shrinkage"
rates - one relates to volume, one relates to size. Volume is confusing, the
PMC is porous, after all (remember volume can be measured by how much liquid
is displaced by an object). Size is the visual cue. The shrinkage is
slightly variable, depending on the thickness of the "clay", and the length
and temperature of firing. In 2 hours or more at 1650F (silver "clay"), the
shrinkage in size is 24%. If you only fire for 15 minutes, the shrinkage in
size is 15%.
Sorry to be so pointed, but I think the 50% thing really influences whether or
not someone might consider playing with the stuff. And if you consider that
traditional clay shrinks 10-15%, then this isn't such a stretch.
Thanks for listening,
Dana
Gordon on wed 10 apr 02
I just got back from a PMC workshop and I am all charged up to make
lots of stuff..this stuff is really a kick... when you have fired it it is
99% pure silver so no tarnishing and it works just like clay but in tiny
tiny amounts. i would like to buy some man made cubic zirconium to use with
the clay and wonder if anyone has any other cheap places to buy them.... i
have the catalogue for Rio Grande but I am just playing around so do not
want to spend alot...
I bought that mini wheel at nceca and wonder if anyone has tried throwing
the PMC...
thanks for your input
Brant Palley NMCLAY.com on fri 12 apr 02
You can throw pmc, Rio Grande has a pot around 3" tall that was thrown. I
would recommend throwing PMC original as it has the most water and binder.
PMC can be thrown on a potter's wheel just like earthen clay and will
create a vessel with all the finger marks and textures characteristic of
ceramic ware. It is also possible to attach PMC elements to a bisqued
ceramic piece to create precious metal details such as rims, medallions
and handles.
Your pot will shrink around 30%, but you just take advantage of the
shrinkage to miniaturize the detail. Learn more about PMC, the clay made
of pure silver at...
http://www.Silver-Clay.com
brant@nmclay.com
Jocelyn McAuley on fri 12 apr 02
> ceramic ware. It is also possible to attach PMC elements to a bisqued
> ceramic piece to create precious metal details such as rims, medallions
> and handles.
Can someone help set my mind straight...
given the shrinkage rates with PMC, how can I incorporate it onto a
ceramic piece without it popping off during the firing?
thanks
--
Jocelyn McAuley ><<'> jocie@worlddomination.net
Eugene, Oregon http://www.ceramicism.com
Snail Scott on fri 12 apr 02
At 12:33 PM 4/12/02 -0700, you wrote:
>given the shrinkage rates with PMC, how can I incorporate it onto a
>ceramic piece without it popping off during the firing?
You need to score the clay surface very well,
to give 'tooth' to the clay/PMC connection.
-Snail
Sharon Pemberton on sun 14 apr 02
I actually took a certification course for a silver art clay product. I have
used the syringe type on raku pieces and have had good luck.
Sharon
iandol on tue 16 apr 02
A good source for information about using Precious Metal Clay aka PMC, =
which is available in karat golds as well as silver is Lapidary Journal.
It would seem that the metal is micronised and then crushed by rolling =
to get the right sort of conformation which allows it to develop a =
plastic nature when mixed with an organic plasticiser.
Because of the purity of the metals used it has a very short firing =
range, about twentyfive degrees below the melting point and the =
shrinkage is very high, far higher than would be tolerated in a =
Sintering lab. Components are made by compacting the raw material at =
several tons per square inch in a commercial situation so that the =
shrinkage is kept as low as possible, below one percent as I recall.
Trying to combine trad clay with PMC is Ok provided a lot of thought is =
given to the design of both the article and the processes. I would =
favour making the metal part first then making the clay part to fit that =
rather than the other way round. But if you want a silver rim for a pot, =
why not make one. Lots of options, forging, lost wax casting for =
starters which would be less expensive and offer fewer hassles.
Just thinking aloud.
Ivor
Snail Scott on wed 17 apr 02
At 04:00 PM 4/16/02 +0930, Ivor wrote:
>But if you want a silver rim for a pot, why not make one. Lots of options,
forging, lost wax casting for starters which would be less expensive and
offer fewer hassles.
Did this a few times - made hand-formed silver rims on
unglazed 18" brown stoneware bowls. Repoussed the metal,
and set some with semiprecious stones. Looked fabulous;
might even do more someday. Definitely cheaper than PMC
in materials cost, but many more hours of craftsmanship.
Less expensive? Depends on how much your labor is worth.
-Snail
iandol on thu 18 apr 02
That, dear Snail Scott, is a Labour of Love. The things that accrue from =
your efforts are priceless.=20
<brown stoneware bowls. Repoussed the metal, and set some with =
semiprecious stones. Looked fabulous; might even do more someday. =
Definitely cheaper than PMC in materials cost, but many more hours of =
craftsmanship. Less expensive? Depends on how much your labor is =
worth.>>
Best regards,
Ivor
Valerie Hawkins on thu 22 aug 02
I would like to do some experimenting with PMC, combine it with some clay
pieces I'm working on. I am concerned with it's limitations and it's so
expensive that I hate to just try to make it do something it won't and have
to scrap it.
So, I was wondering if anyone experienced with this medium and willing to
share their experience could contact me off list.
Thanks,
Valerie
Charlotte
Mark Potter on thu 22 aug 02
Valerie?
What is precious metal clay?
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Subject: Precious Metal Clay
I would like to do some experimenting with PMC, combine it with some
clay
pieces I'm working on. I am concerned with it's limitations and it's so
expensive that I hate to just try to make it do something it won't and
have
to scrap it.
So, I was wondering if anyone experienced with this medium and willing
to
share their experience could contact me off list.
Thanks,
Valerie
Charlotte
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Carole Rishel on thu 22 aug 02
Why off the list? I'd like to hear people's experiences with PMC too.
Carole Rishel
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To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Precious Metal Clay
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I would like to do some experimenting with PMC, combine it with some clay
pieces I'm working on. I am concerned with it's limitations and it's so
expensive that I hate to just try to make it do something it won't and ha=
ve
to scrap it.
So, I was wondering if anyone experienced with this medium and willing to
share their experience could contact me off list.
Thanks,
Valerie
Charlotte
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Sarah House on thu 22 aug 02
From what I understand PMC is avaliable through two sources both are guilds
that do lots of classes and seminars. The director of one of these guilds
took a Raku class from me last spring. I'm having a hard time remembering
all that she did. I know that she fused some PMC onto a piece of bisque and
then we heated it and did horsehair. We did try a few pieces of raku, it got
a little hot I think. The PMC beaded up on the surface. A lower temp raku
glaze would have been better. She planned to continue her experiments. You
can get in touch with their guild through http://pmcconnection.com by now
she may have published her results in the newsletter.
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Brant Palley NMCLAY.com on fri 23 aug 02
PMC=99 is a clay like substance that is made of pure gold or silver, it is
mixed with a binder and a plasticizer to make it act and feel like clay.
After firing it turns into fine silver. Really!
It can be added to an existing clay piece as a slip or an attachment, but
never fire above 1650 F. or it starts to melt. Adding silver to fired clay
works best if the clay has a little texture.
There are presently three kinds...
PMC original has ideal workability and a relatively high shrinkage (30%)
that allows wonderful detail. It is the least expensive version.
PMC+ fires very quickly and results in a dense and durable material. it
also allows for firing at three different temperatures, the lowest of
which makes certain implants and enamels possible. (15% shrinkage)
PMC3 fires at an even lower temperature (1290 F ) which not only allows
implants but means alternative, low tech firing devices become possible.
Not every artist will need all three versions. Some people find a
preference and stick with it, while others use different materials
depending on the nature of their work.
How do they do It? In the end is it all silver?
Yes, all three versions yield the same metal, 100% silver. The difference
is not in the ingredients but in the shape of the particles. Original PMC
is made with flake‑like particles that allow room for the binder, whic=
h
gives the material its workability. PMC+ is made with a particle with more
neatly defined edges. This allows for quicker fusing and a denser
material. The newest member of the team, PMC3, uses particles that are
even smaller than the silver dust used in the other versions. The denser
packing allows this material to fuse at a lower temperature.
for more info see http://www.silver-clay.com
Brant Palley
New Mexico Clay
www.nmclay.com
Betty M. Burroughs on fri 23 aug 02
I took a course in PMC (Precious Metal Clay) at Red Deer College in =
Alberta this summer. PMC is very finely-ground silver (or gold or =
platinum) powder held together with an organic binder. It looks like =
clay and you can work it like clay. It dries out quickly so you need to =
keep it well wrapped in Saran. It comes in 1-ounce boxes (about the size =
of a robin's egg) and we paid $39. Can. for that amount. Our teacher =
said that was a very good price! Gold and platinum are much more.
It is fired quickly to 1650 deg. F and held there for 2 hours. Then the =
kiln was shut off and the lid opened so it could be cooled quickly. At =
this stage the result is 99.9% fine silver but it is covered in a white =
substance. Burnishing with stainless steel tools brings out the shiny =
silver or you can put small pieces in a rock tumbler with stainless =
steel shot and a tiny amount of non-sudsing soap for a couple of hours =
and voila! shiny silver pieces!
We were surprised to find that everything shrinks about 33%. This must =
be taken into consideration when using with clay. Also, the firing temp. =
for PMC is like any metal lustre...Cone 17 to 19.
It was easy to use .....I made jewellry pieces......but awfully =
expensive. It is a new product so maybe in time the price will come =
down.=20
Evan Clifford on sat 24 aug 02
Did you guys use silver PMC? Go to
http://pmcconnection.com/mcart/index.cgi?code=3&cat=2. They have 20 gram
silver PMC for $27.00. It only has a shrinkage or 8-10% and fires in 10
min... Check it out.
-Evan
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Precious Metal Clay
I took a course in PMC (Precious Metal Clay) at Red Deer College in
Alberta this summer. PMC is very finely-ground silver (or gold or
platinum) powder held together with an organic binder. It looks like
clay and you can work it like clay. It dries out quickly so you need to
keep it well wrapped in Saran. It comes in 1-ounce boxes (about the size
of a robin's egg) and we paid $39. Can. for that amount. Our teacher
said that was a very good price! Gold and platinum are much more.
It is fired quickly to 1650 deg. F and held there for 2 hours. Then the
kiln was shut off and the lid opened so it could be cooled quickly. At
this stage the result is 99.9% fine silver but it is covered in a white
substance. Burnishing with stainless steel tools brings out the shiny
silver or you can put small pieces in a rock tumbler with stainless
steel shot and a tiny amount of non-sudsing soap for a couple of hours
and voila! shiny silver pieces!
We were surprised to find that everything shrinks about 33%. This must
be taken into consideration when using with clay. Also, the firing temp.
for PMC is like any metal lustre...Cone 17 to 19.
It was easy to use .....I made jewellry pieces......but awfully
expensive. It is a new product so maybe in time the price will come
down.
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claybair on mon 23 may 05
Phyllis,
Ohhh, I'm getting excited... I used to make
porcelain pins which I colored with thin washes of
oxides and/or underglazes. I think some would just
perk right up with a touch of PMC. As soon as I'm
over this "crud" which has me hacking and coughing
I'm going to try it.
Thanks,
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
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Subject: Re: Prescious Metal Clay
Gayle: I can't tell you what magazine had pictures but I do remember seeing
the PMC as an onlay rather than an inlay. There were several pics showing
the clay used decoratively around the shoulders of a pot.I have worked with
it several times--have a friend that is a jeweler--but made several pins and
pendants and not on pottery. Perhaps they have a catalogue or instruction
booklets? The work would be tricky--necessary to calculate temperatures and
figure how to attach the PMC to the pot.
There is a restaurant in Cincinnati, Ohio, built around an old bee hive
kiln. It is possible to have a meal in the kiln. They also have a wonderful
exhibit of Rookwood and some other historic pottery. I remember one piece
that had metal around the shoulder---beautiful!!
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Hi,=20
Is there anyone who has successfully been combining the use of Precious =
Metal Clay 3 with their stoneware or porcelain clay work? If so could =
you contact me off line because I have questions about this process and =
would love to discuss the use of this medium in combination with high =
fire clays.=20
After taking a workshop on the process I would love to use this new =
medium in my work.=20
Also thank you all for such a lively discussion about the use of paper =
clay. I've stopped referring to my finished pieces as having been =
created with paper clay so no confusion can become of this. I simply =
give the name of the clay body that I have used.=20
Thanks,
Meryl Ruth, Porcelain Grace
mruth1@maine.rr.com
http://www.merylruth.com
Kath Gibson on tue 26 sep 06
Please respond ON list as I (and I'm sure others) would also be interested in this process. Meryl - perhaps posting on-list with your specific questions would help? I haven't got as far as having a list of questions, but I AM interested in this and would like to know more.
Thanks
Kath in Glasgow, Scotland
counting the hours till ceramics class, where I can swap my calculator for clay :o)
On Tuesday, September 26, 2006, at 01:01PM, Meryl Ruth wrote:
>Hi,
>Is there anyone who has successfully been combining the use of Precious Metal Clay 3 with their stoneware or porcelain clay work? If so could you contact me off line because I have questions about this process and would love to discuss the use of this medium
jlutz on tue 26 sep 06
Meryl,
There are several Yahoo discussion groups about PMC. There have been
several discussions in some of them about using it on glass and ceramic.
Jean Lutz
Prescott, AZ
At 01:14 AM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Is there anyone who has successfully been combining the use of
>Precious Metal Clay 3 with their stoneware or porcelain clay work?
>If so could you contact me off line because I have questions about
>this process and would love to discuss the use of this medium in
>combination with high fire clays.
>After taking a workshop on the process I would love to use this new
>medium in my work.
>Also thank you all for such a lively discussion about the use of
>paper clay. I've stopped referring to my finished pieces as having
>been created with paper clay so no confusion can become of this. I
>simply give the name of the clay body that I have used.
>
>Thanks,
>Meryl Ruth, Porcelain Grace
>mruth1@maine.rr.com
>http://www.merylruth.com
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