MPozefsky@aol.com on wed 1 may 96
I too am looking to buy a raku kiln using a pulley system. Miami Cork and
Supply was making a great one. Unfortunately they've gone out of business.
I'd love to know if anyone else is making a similar kiln
PAT HANKINS on fri 3 may 96
Hi, clayarters.....maybe that's what we can call ourselves! potter,
artist, clay artist.... I just bought an Olympic Raku kiln advertized
in Axner that has a crank up lid, and can be used for Raku and
firings up to ^ 10 reduction. I bought the 23" diameter...It looks
impressive, need to hook up the propane tanks and I'm in
busness...I'll keep you posted as to the results.
Pat Hankins
Gordon College
Barnesville, GA 30256
Where we can finally begin to plant butter beans...
BWINER@UKCC.uky.edu on sat 4 may 96
I would like to thank those of you who have send messages comparing
the front loading raku kilns with those that have a pulley system so that
one person can use it.
I would appreciat hearing from those of you who are using commercially
available raku kilns of either design. Could you give me specific information
on the model used, where purchased,evaluation of performance, and any other
pertinant info. The model that I purchase will have to be mobile so that it
can be stored in the garage and wheeled out to the driveway for usage.
Hope to hear from many of you as I am eager to purchase the kiln soon.
With warm regards on a very gloomy Derby Day in Lexington Kentucky,
Billy
behrends on tue 7 may 96
Billy,
I have found that old electoric kilns make great raku kilns. I just gut out
the wires and all of the controles, cut a four inch hole on the side of the
bottom and another on the lid and presto, a raku kiln. Good luck.
Reg Behrends
Drummond, Wi.>-
>
BWINER@UKCC.uky.edu on sat 27 jul 96
Greetings Clayart friends! Thank you for all of your answers about raku kilns.
I am finally ready to order one and am considring tje RK or RK-EL Series from
WARD burner systems located in Dandridge TN. What I wanted originally was a kil
n with an elevator and theirs looks good but I wander whether it is too balky
to move from garage to the outside for firing. The RK series is just the regula
r kiln whose drum is lifted to take the ware out. The drum for the23" by 24"
inner diam.and height weighs only 17lbs. They also have one with a front door
for loading and unloading the ware. Have any of you had any experience with
WARD and these kilns? Ordering from them has another advantage for me in that
they are close to Kentucky so shipping will be a little cheaper. The prices
of the kilns of above size are $675, $825 and $925 for the regular, front door
loading and the one with elevator. I would appreciate hearing from you regardi
ng these kilns, any comments pro and con and suggestions for other kilns that
might be better.
Best regards from Lexington on a beautiful July day, Billy
Charles Williams on sun 28 jul 96
You might consider building your own and saving big bucks! The base is
constructed from kiln brick and the top can be built from an old 60 gallon
drum or sturdy, light weight fence wire, lined with ceramic wool (fiber)
blanket. All these items are available through most all ceramic suppliers.
The single most expensive item for my RAKU Kiln was the propane burner (about
$100). This was by choice and a burner can be purchased for much less. The
one I purchased could melt New York City in an hour or so, mega BTU's. The
top of my kiln lifts off to remove fired ware. There is also lots of good
data on building your own in various books, eg. Piepenburg - "RAKU POTTERY",
Leon Nigrosh "CLAYWORK", etc. Also, various videos, eg., Piepenburg - "RAKU
KILN BUILDING", Stephen Jepson - "KILN BUILDING", etc. Besides, it is lots of
fun and provides a real sense of accomplishment.
Go to pot, with a smile on your face!
Charles
Rebekah Shope on sun 28 jul 96
Hi Billy,
In answer to your raku kiln questions, in a class I took this
semester, I built my own raku kiln out of a 55 gallon drum. Have you
considered building your own? If anybody is interested in how we did
it, reply and Ill post it. Of course, the price is definitely more
reasonable than a store bought one, and Im sure it is just as durable.
Becky Shope
Jeffersonville, IN
BWINER@UKCC.uky.edu wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Greetings Clayart friends! Thank you for all of your answers about raku kilns.
>I am finally ready to order one and am considring tje RK or RK-EL Series from
>WARD burner systems located in Dandridge TN. What I wanted originally was a kil
>n with an elevator and theirs looks good but I wander whether it is too balky
>to move from garage to the outside for firing. The RK series is just the regula
>r kiln whose drum is lifted to take the ware out. The drum for the23" by 24"
>inner diam.and height weighs only 17lbs. They also have one with a front door
>for loading and unloading the ware. Have any of you had any experience with
>WARD and these kilns? Ordering from them has another advantage for me in that
>they are close to Kentucky so shipping will be a little cheaper. The prices
>of the kilns of above size are $675, $825 and $925 for the regular, front door
>loading and the one with elevator. I would appreciate hearing from you regardi
>ng these kilns, any comments pro and con and suggestions for other kilns that
>might be better.
> Best regards from Lexington on a beautiful July day, Billy
Judy Nolan on thu 29 may 97
A friend who must be about 75 years, wants to reconstruct her raku kiln to
accomodate more firing space with as little hassle, technology and anxiety as
possible. She currently uses brick on top of a cement block for base,
17-1/2" circular with a metal bin lined with fiberfill at 19x19" inside
diameter for the lid. She has porthole with Venturi burner for heat. Any
ideas on how to reconstruct or make anew a kiln that would cover twice that
area?
Many thanks for any ideas. Jody.
SBRANFPOTS@aol.com on wed 16 jul 97
Recent discussion of raku kilns prompts me to contribute a few words. Viable
kilns can be built with brick or fiber or a combination of both materials.
Each material has its advantages and disadvantages and they are not so cut
and dry. It depends on the kiln style, size, the wares you are going to be
firing, how you are going to vary the atmosphere, how portable you want the
kiln to be, etc. To make the most intelligent decision you must think about
these things and more.
Bob Piepenburgs book Raku Pottery was mentioned as a good resource and it
certainly is. As a matter of fact it was one of two books that got me started
in raku, the other being Raku, Art And Technique by Hal Reigger which is long
out of print. Here's a plug for my book Raku: A Practical Approach. It has
detailed plans and instructions for building a variety of kilns as well as a
load of other information on raku. Anyone can contact me directly for more
information.
Steven Branfman
The Potters Shop
Steve Tate on thu 17 jul 97
I would like to add to what Steve Branfman as said.. I want to plug his
book.. I bought it several years ago when I started, and from that Built my
first kiln.. Also, use it to learn more about the Raku process
Thanks Steve write another..
Steve Tate
Laura Freedman on fri 18 jul 97
Steve Tate wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I would like to add to what Steve Branfman as said.. I want to plug his
> book.. I bought it several years ago when I started, and from that Built my
> first kiln.. Also, use it to learn more about the Raku process
>
> Thanks Steve write another..
>
> Steve Tate
----------
I second Steve's comments. Bought the book a few years ago and am in the
process of building a raku site. It has been extremely helpful and has
simplified and demystified some of my questions.
--
MZ
sandra m benscoter on sat 13 sep 97
I was just rereading my copy of Piepenburg's 'The Spirit of Clay' and am
interested in the clam shell raku kiln built by Ken Turner. Does anyone
know if it is on the market and who to contact. Is there an 'e' address
available for Robert Piepenburg?
Many thanks to all you mud buddies!!
Sande
John Olson on fri 11 jun 99
I've recently purchased a Ward raku kiln and love it !
Steve Mills on thu 31 oct 02
On the subject of simple Raku Kilns; there are reasonably detailed
instructions on the Bath Potters Website:
--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Robert Briggs on tue 16 aug 05
Thanks for that, Mel!
I developed my raku kiln design from one that was offered in Gordon
Hutchen's
'/Beginning Raku/' video and the '/Clay-dog/' kiln offered by L&R
specialties.
Spun refractionary fiber has been around for many years.
I believe in the the commercial, capitalistic venture of America, but
when someone
says they invented something, they had better have the patent and
trademark to
prove it - I believe that building something as fundamentally obvious as
a box full
of ceramic fiber should be made free to the public anyway.
Robert Briggs
-www.corvusmoon.com-
> there have been fibre raku kilns around for years.
> all shapes, all sizes.
>
> i saw one in the early sixties that nils had made.
> he also had a lift up kiln/stoneware with a fibre tent.
>
> so,
> i do not think anyone `invented it`.
>
> in fact...i have seen a dandy one...made from a flue liner/kaowool.
> with a fence wire stabilizer...just stack them up for
> a tall pot.
>
> flue liners come really big. and, not that expensive.
>
> so we must be careful not to assume that five gallon
> pails lined with kaowool is an `exclusive`.
>
> i made them years ago.
> steel pail, lined...glued with sodium silicate.
> just any burner.
> made temp in about 15 minutes. just a hole in the top.
> that was mel, kurt, bob and andy.
> early 70's. and, we saw them long before that.
> mel
> from mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
> http://home.comcast.net/~figglywig/clayart.htm
> for gail's year book.
>
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mel jacobson on tue 16 aug 05
there have been fibre raku kilns around for years.
all shapes, all sizes.
i saw one in the early sixties that nils had made.
he also had a lift up kiln/stoneware with a fibre tent.
so,
i do not think anyone `invented it`.
in fact...i have seen a dandy one...made from a flue liner/kaowool.
with a fence wire stabilizer...just stack them up for
a tall pot.
flue liners come really big. and, not that expensive.
so we must be careful not to assume that five gallon
pails lined with kaowool is an `exclusive`.
i made them years ago.
steel pail, lined...glued with sodium silicate.
just any burner.
made temp in about 15 minutes. just a hole in the top.
that was mel, kurt, bob and andy.
early 70's. and, we saw them long before that.
mel
from mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
website: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
http://home.comcast.net/~figglywig/clayart.htm
for gail's year book.
Frank Colson on thu 18 aug 05
Okay, Robert, and all you happy little clayart posters. You beg the
question! I accept! For starters, yes, I do have a patent for a ceramic
fiber lined kilns of any shape and size, even if it looks like a noodle!
U.S. Patent 3, 786/162 issued in the beginning of time. Long before those
kind of kilns were ever shown in vintage and current publications. Only
Steven Branfman's Raku books, fresh out in '97 acknowledges "Kiln Building
with Space Age Materials"l975, included as bibliography.for making a raku
kiln. The raku drum, bin, bucket, cylinder, or hollow round
form, are all technically copyrighted in this book. Under the U.S.
copyright law I am protected for my entire life, plus 50 years! So, as of
present, it will be only 94 years until this is open domain. Again,
technically, I could challenge anyone making a raku drum kiln, even
resembling the
description of the "Portable Raku Kiln". Chapter 5 , and not get too far in
a court of law. Others may say that they made raku drum, or other shape
fiber kilns before, but there is no documented proof. Remember, Henry Ford
did not invent the automobile! But after Henry put his genius to making the
automobile accessible to everyone, it did make a huge difference. I did
not invent ceramic fiber, and I did not invent a common trash can. But I
did put the two together to show how obvious it was, and I offered it to
potters in workshops and demonstrations in more than a dozen countries and a
publication distributed on 3 continents for more than 20 years. I am sure
that you DO believe that
"something as fundamentally obvious " as this "should be made free to the
public anyway"! And I am sure that you ALSO believe that
you have the right to download copywriter music, because it is "
fundamentally obvious". I only want to remind you ,and everyone
reading this, that often what is "fundamentally obvious" has absolutely no
merit unless it has deliberately been put to use, proven
as a viable concept, and finally realized that, YOU could have done it as
well, but never attempted it because it was so "fundamentally obvious"!
Sorry, what is often obvious is not necessarily free!
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Briggs"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: raku kilns
> Thanks for that, Mel!
> I developed my raku kiln design from one that was offered in Gordon
> Hutchen's
> '/Beginning Raku/' video and the '/Clay-dog/' kiln offered by L&R
> specialties.
> Spun refractionary fiber has been around for many years.
>
> I believe in the the commercial, capitalistic venture of America, but
> when someone
> says they invented something, they had better have the patent and
> trademark to
> prove it - I believe that building something as fundamentally obvious as
> a box full
> of ceramic fiber should be made free to the public anyway.
>
> Robert Briggs
> -www.corvusmoon.com-
>
> > there have been fibre raku kilns around for years.
> > all shapes, all sizes.
> >
> > i saw one in the early sixties that nils had made.
> > he also had a lift up kiln/stoneware with a fibre tent.
> >
> > so,
> > i do not think anyone `invented it`.
> >
> > in fact...i have seen a dandy one...made from a flue liner/kaowool.
> > with a fence wire stabilizer...just stack them up for
> > a tall pot.
> >
> > flue liners come really big. and, not that expensive.
> >
> > so we must be careful not to assume that five gallon
> > pails lined with kaowool is an `exclusive`.
> >
> > i made them years ago.
> > steel pail, lined...glued with sodium silicate.
> > just any burner.
> > made temp in about 15 minutes. just a hole in the top.
> > that was mel, kurt, bob and andy.
> > early 70's. and, we saw them long before that.
> > mel
> > from mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> > website: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
> > http://home.comcast.net/~figglywig/clayart.htm
> > for gail's year book.
> >
> >
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> > melpots@pclink.com.
> >
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Marcia Selsor on fri 19 aug 05
Gee, Frank. I built a fiber lined oil 55 gallon drum raku kiln on
pulleys in Grad. school at SIU Carbondale in 1973. Predates your book.
Didn't know of any patent. I have built a lot more since then. Sorry.
Marcia Selsor in Montana
On Aug 18, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Frank Colson wrote:
> Okay, Robert, and all you happy little clayart posters. You beg the
> question! I accept! For starters, yes, I do have a patent for a
> ceramic
> fiber lined kilns of any shape and size, even if it looks like a
> noodle!
> U.S. Patent 3, 786/162 issued in the beginning of time. Long
> before those
> kind of kilns were ever shown in vintage and current publications.
> Only
> Steven Branfman's Raku books, fresh out in '97 acknowledges "Kiln
> Building
> with Space Age Materials"l975, included as bibliography.for making
> a raku
> kiln. The raku drum, bin, bucket, cylinder, or hollow round
> form, are all technically copyrighted in this book. Under the U.S.
> copyright law I am protected for my entire life, plus 50 years! So,
> as of
> present, it will be only 94 years until this is open domain. Again,
> technically, I could challenge anyone making a raku drum kiln, even
> resembling the
> description of the "Portable Raku Kiln". Chapter 5 , and not get
> too far in
> a court of law. Others may say that they made raku drum, or other
> shape
> fiber kilns before, but there is no documented proof. Remember,
> Henry Ford
> did not invent the automobile! But after Henry put his genius to
> making the
> automobile accessible to everyone, it did make a huge difference.
> I did
> not invent ceramic fiber, and I did not invent a common trash can.
> But I
> did put the two together to show how obvious it was, and I offered
> it to
> potters in workshops and demonstrations in more than a dozen
> countries and a
> publication distributed on 3 continents for more than 20 years. I
> am sure
> that you DO believe that
> "something as fundamentally obvious " as this "should be made free
> to the
> public anyway"! And I am sure that you ALSO believe that
> you have the right to download copywriter music, because it is "
> fundamentally obvious". I only want to remind you ,and everyone
> reading this, that often what is "fundamentally obvious" has
> absolutely no
> merit unless it has deliberately been put to use, proven
> as a viable concept, and finally realized that, YOU could have
> done it as
> well, but never attempted it because it was so "fundamentally
> obvious"!
> Sorry, what is often obvious is not necessarily free!
>
> Frank Colson
> www.R2D2u.com
>
>
John Baymore on fri 19 aug 05
Any shape of fiber lined kiln ....... huuummmmm..........
Looks like a lot of kiln manufacturers .... both those specializing in
craft pottery as well as industrial units...... might have a bit of a
potential problem on their hands. Wonder how the company lawyers for
those firms, particularly those for the industrial manufacturers, managed
to miss that secure patent when researching their commercial product
development?
Or are you getting royalties from all those people?
best,
..............john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
JBaymore@compuserve.com
http://www.JohnBaymore.com
"Please use compuserve address for any direct communications."
Frank Colson on fri 19 aug 05
As far as the patent goes, it has run its course of time protection and is
now open domain.
As a professional artist it is not my mission to go chasing down
infringements. My patent attorney arranged for a positive arrangements for
a manufacturer infringing on the patent in the mid '70's . It was resolved
at that time. Been there, done that!
Frank-
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baymore"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: raku kilns
> Any shape of fiber lined kiln ....... huuummmmm..........
>
> Looks like a lot of kiln manufacturers .... both those specializing in
> craft pottery as well as industrial units...... might have a bit of a
> potential problem on their hands. Wonder how the company lawyers for
> those firms, particularly those for the industrial manufacturers, managed
> to miss that secure patent when researching their commercial product
> development?
>
> Or are you getting royalties from all those people?
>
>
> best,
>
> ..............john
>
> John Baymore
> River Bend Pottery
> 22 Riverbend Way
> Wilton, NH 03086 USA
>
> JBaymore@compuserve.com
> http://www.JohnBaymore.com
>
> "Please use compuserve address for any direct communications."
>
>
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Frank Colson on fri 19 aug 05
Marcia- I inform you that I did 10 years of experimentation and application
PRIOR to my book publication date. During that time I published
a few articles on the subject. As you know an article published is
copywriter protected. I started doing raku in this manner when I invited
guest artists to hold workshops as early as '59. Hal Riegger had
experimented with "American" type raku in the mid 40's when he lived in a
CO camp, refusing to go kill people in WWII. Hal lived and taught at the
BelAire Art Center, in Clearwater, Florida, when I met him at the
time I opened the Colson School of Art, in Sarasota.
Hey, don't be sorry about the revolution of American raku. I was part of
the germination out of Los Angeles who sparked the new wave
of abstract expressionism in clay which has become the exciting explosion
that superceded the traditional clay artist of the old world; sic:Europe!
Enjoy!
Frank Colson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Selsor"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: raku kilns
> Gee, Frank. I built a fiber lined oil 55 gallon drum raku kiln on
> pulleys in Grad. school at SIU Carbondale in 1973. Predates your book.
> Didn't know of any patent. I have built a lot more since then. Sorry.
> Marcia Selsor in Montana
> On Aug 18, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Frank Colson wrote:
>
> > Okay, Robert, and all you happy little clayart posters. You beg the
> > question! I accept! For starters, yes, I do have a patent for a
> > ceramic
> > fiber lined kilns of any shape and size, even if it looks like a
> > noodle!
> > U.S. Patent 3, 786/162 issued in the beginning of time. Long
> > before those
> > kind of kilns were ever shown in vintage and current publications.
> > Only
> > Steven Branfman's Raku books, fresh out in '97 acknowledges "Kiln
> > Building
> > with Space Age Materials"l975, included as bibliography.for making
> > a raku
> > kiln. The raku drum, bin, bucket, cylinder, or hollow round
> > form, are all technically copyrighted in this book. Under the U.S.
> > copyright law I am protected for my entire life, plus 50 years! So,
> > as of
> > present, it will be only 94 years until this is open domain. Again,
> > technically, I could challenge anyone making a raku drum kiln, even
> > resembling the
> > description of the "Portable Raku Kiln". Chapter 5 , and not get
> > too far in
> > a court of law. Others may say that they made raku drum, or other
> > shape
> > fiber kilns before, but there is no documented proof. Remember,
> > Henry Ford
> > did not invent the automobile! But after Henry put his genius to
> > making the
> > automobile accessible to everyone, it did make a huge difference.
> > I did
> > not invent ceramic fiber, and I did not invent a common trash can.
> > But I
> > did put the two together to show how obvious it was, and I offered
> > it to
> > potters in workshops and demonstrations in more than a dozen
> > countries and a
> > publication distributed on 3 continents for more than 20 years. I
> > am sure
> > that you DO believe that
> > "something as fundamentally obvious " as this "should be made free
> > to the
> > public anyway"! And I am sure that you ALSO believe that
> > you have the right to download copywriter music, because it is "
> > fundamentally obvious". I only want to remind you ,and everyone
> > reading this, that often what is "fundamentally obvious" has
> > absolutely no
> > merit unless it has deliberately been put to use, proven
> > as a viable concept, and finally realized that, YOU could have
> > done it as
> > well, but never attempted it because it was so "fundamentally
> > obvious"!
> > Sorry, what is often obvious is not necessarily free!
> >
> > Frank Colson
> > www.R2D2u.com
> >
> >
>
>
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John Baymore on fri 19 aug 05
Frank,
I just read the US Patent you hold. While I am not a patent lawyer by any
means... it seems that the grant is a lot more specific than your post
above appears to imply. But I could be wrong on that .
Anyone else interested in the details of this, here's the link:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=3786162
To view it on the governmental site you will need a special TIFF viewer
plug in for your browser that is similar to Quicktime. Quicktime MIGHT
view it... I don't know. A link for the viewers is provided on the site.
It is also interesting and instructive to look at other patents that are
related to yours that are held by others. Those additional patents also
point to the highly specific nature of the one you hold.
best,
.............john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086 USA
JBaymore@compuserve.com
http://www.JohnBaymore.com
"Please use compuserve address for any direct communications."
Frank Colson on fri 19 aug 05
John- I'm really pleased that you made the effort to look up my patent and
offer a link to others. This, of course, opens a whole world of memories of
what I had to go through to get this patent. My primary focus, at the time,
was that the "concept" was to have anything that
was lined with fiber, would hold enough heat to fire "pottery". My patent
attorney said that that was okay, except that some kind of a
diagram, with specific identifications had to be put on paper, nonetheless!
There was no way around that! Finally, because I was adamant
about the generalization of my concept, I had an international patent
attorney arrange for us to fly to Washington, DC. There, we met with a life
patent officer and gave our case. Earlier, it was almost impossible to
convince anyone that my concept was anything other than the obvious!
Finally, the patent office agreed that my concept was indeed original, an
idea that had never really been applied. As a result, I had to accept the
constriction of the diagram you found along with the understanding that and
variation of that diagram was still the bases of Patent No. 3.786.162. If
that was challenged, then I could defend what brought in this idea with the
simple face that the patent WAS issued to Frank
Colson.
I was challenged in those days by a few manufacturers, and I was able to
satisfy our differences. It is not the way I would want to go again.
It wasn't easy. It took almost 2 years to get that patent issued. There
was no Internet then. I was in the Library of Congress more than once
leafing through existing patents hoping I would never find what I was
looking for. That's the objective, I'll tell you! So, I would have never
given my patent # out in these postings if I didn't think that it might not
help potter's anywhere get some insight on this facet of personal
protection of a creative idea. At the time of issuance I received offers
from manufactures all over the country, but, at the time, I did not want to
became buried in sales of my patent I only wanted to pot! One important
tip, for all! If you ever do try for a patent, try to keep it "patent
pending" as long as you can. Once a patent # is issued, all the information
about that patent is available to anyone who can make changes, and/or
variations without fear of plagiarism. Before that # is issued, you have
the protection of the law, and no one can see it!
Thank you, John, for pulling the trigger that allowed me to make this
information available!
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baymore"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: raku kilns
> Frank,
>
> I just read the US Patent you hold. While I am not a patent lawyer by any
> means... it seems that the grant is a lot more specific than your post
> above appears to imply. But I could be wrong on that .
>
> Anyone else interested in the details of this, here's the link:
>
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=3786162
>
> To view it on the governmental site you will need a special TIFF viewer
> plug in for your browser that is similar to Quicktime. Quicktime MIGHT
> view it... I don't know. A link for the viewers is provided on the site.
>
> It is also interesting and instructive to look at other patents that are
> related to yours that are held by others. Those additional patents also
> point to the highly specific nature of the one you hold.
>
>
> best,
>
> .............john
>
> John Baymore
> River Bend Pottery
> 22 Riverbend Way
> Wilton, NH 03086 USA
>
> JBaymore@compuserve.com
> http://www.JohnBaymore.com
>
> "Please use compuserve address for any direct communications."
>
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