Wendy Rosen on wed 17 sep 97
these be used AC motors, Disney tumblers or morsels of ID.>
Dear Friends,
We ALL exist to peddle goods or ideas -- it's what keeps shoes on
our childrens feet and food in our mouths... sounds like an honorable
pursuit to me. I once asked the Maryland Institute College of Art if they
would like me to teach a business practices course...
their response "Ms. Rosen we don't want our students to know what
you DO for a living"... Should we all work in diners waiting tables until
our work is discovered? Hardly, we all wouldn't recognize or effectivly
utilize an opportunity when it finally came...
Classes are shrinking in Universities where business practices and
career paths aren't discussed... why? Because parents don't want their
children to return home "homeless and jobless" when they graduate... I
can't blame parents and students for demanding more.
The marketing opportunities, internships and mentorships we provide
offer students and professionals an opportunity to explore a larger
marketplace for ceramics... today someone will buy a $60 teapot and that
same person with the right encouragement and education will ten years from
now be able to afford and want a $800 teapot... it's a long and winding
road... we have to take one step at a time and look at the big picture.
I'm glad to see threads of discussion like this!!!
Wendy Rosen
Publisher, AmericanStyle Magazine (americanstyle.com)
Producer, Buyers Markets of American Craft (wendyr@rosengrp.com)
410/889-2933
Carol Jackaway on thu 18 sep 97
Dear Wendy,
I wish my colleges would have taught business courses. It leaves a
great gap in our education if attending college, which by the way is billed
to be a "well arounded education". I had hoped in the 15 years out of
college this would have changed. I always recommand to up and coming clay
artist, to finish college (if attending) and then spend a year or two with a
working artist. This will introduce them to aspects of business and selling
they never knew.
CoilLady
Carol Jackaway
Marie Gibbons on thu 18 sep 97
Wendy
just wanted to support your statement. i am familiar with your magazine, and
think you do a great job of exposing art and the validity of the same! i am
a mixed media artist, using clay as a primary focus in my work. i always
pick up the current issue, usually from Show of Hands in Denver (one of my
representing galleries)
I come from an extensive retail background (15 yrs. of retail management)
before i really got into my art. i can't say enought about how much my
retail / marketing background has helped me to market my art. i think all
programs should have some marketing and self promotion classes involved.
students that don't get any exposure to marketing end up with closets full
of work and broken spirits!!
Thanks again
Marie Gibbons
Hluch - Kevin A. on thu 18 sep 97
The artitrons were busily manufacturing the artwork that the
marketplace demanded. Art Expressions International was one of the first
corporations of its kind to bridge the gap between art and commercial
enterprise. Back in the late 20th century there was a glimmer of this
new concept in a certain entrepreneur's eye.
"Bridge the gap between art and commerce! Train the artists in
business practices! Develop marketing strategies! Know what your
customers want! If you're a creative artist you can make it (for them)!
Who wants to be the first (living) millionaire artist?" Windy
proclaimed in her "YOUR Right to Economic and Artistic Success" ideology
handbook. Many wavering individuals were converted to this dream of
being able to divulge their deepest most innermost thoughts and feelings
and simultaneously make a pile of Dollari. (All other currencies were, of
course, now forbidden.)
Seetha, the new apprentice working in his perceptually shielded
function station was well versed in the principles. After all, it was in
the late 21st century that all of the socialist countries of United Europe
succumbed to the miracle of the marketplace. He enjoyed reading the
history of how the evil concepts of wealth sharing and co-ownership of the
state by the people collapsed due to the inherently human "greed
motivator" concept (well illustrated by the dictators of the proletariat).
Now, of course, the greed concept was in full bloom and fertilized
daily. He remembered his lessons: First humans invented money and then
they invented wealth and then they invented "LEISURE" for one percent of
the population that owned everything. How Seetha hated this "LEISURE"
thing. He was desparately now trying not to think of it. He was not even
sure what it was but he knew the 'RULES'. His Robotron Bosses
would not allow him to think about it (RULE 19, sub3).
The sudden blast of pain between his ears deafened his thoughts.
Seetha instantly dropped to the floor and prayed to the Robotron
Top Boss, "Please, please flush from my brain this vile tendency to think
impure thoughts, O Mighty and all Powerful Top Boss! I promise not to
wander into the forbidden thought zone where there is no work!"
Gradually, the electronic net zone control device implanted in his
brain after gestate diminished his agony. From his surveillance cubicle
the Zone Discipline Commander was pleased, very pleased. Without so much
as a moment's hesitation, Seetha was standing and immediately continued
his work. Orders for new art were already piling up on his ViewCom screen.
Seetha thought, "If I can only keep up this pace I too may have my month
of Untime before I'm terminated... I WILL know heaven!"
A soft but radiant smile slowly brightened his face and a single
glistening tear emerged from the corner of his left gestate eye...a
momento of his now vanished pain.
Kevin A. Hluch
102 E. 8th St.
Frederick, MD 21701
USA
e-mail: kahluch@umd5.umd.edu
http://www.erols.com/mhluch/mudslinger.html
On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Wendy Rosen wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > these be used AC motors, Disney tumblers or morsels of ID.>
>
> Dear Friends,
> We ALL exist to peddle goods or ideas -- it's what keeps shoes on
> our childrens feet and food in our mouths... sounds like an honorable
> pursuit to me. I once asked the Maryland Institute College of Art if they
> would like me to teach a business practices course...
>
> their response "Ms. Rosen we don't want our students to know what
> you DO for a living"... Should we all work in diners waiting tables until
> our work is discovered? Hardly, we all wouldn't recognize or effectivly
> utilize an opportunity when it finally came...
>
> Classes are shrinking in Universities where business practices and
> career paths aren't discussed... why? Because parents don't want their
> children to return home "homeless and jobless" when they graduate... I
> can't blame parents and students for demanding more.
>
> The marketing opportunities, internships and mentorships we provide
> offer students and professionals an opportunity to explore a larger
> marketplace for ceramics... today someone will buy a $60 teapot and that
> same person with the right encouragement and education will ten years from
> now be able to afford and want a $800 teapot... it's a long and winding
> road... we have to take one step at a time and look at the big picture.
>
> I'm glad to see threads of discussion like this!!!
>
> Wendy Rosen
> Publisher, AmericanStyle Magazine (americanstyle.com)
> Producer, Buyers Markets of American Craft (wendyr@rosengrp.com)
> 410/889-2933
>
Wendy Rosen on fri 19 sep 97
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dear Wendy,
> I wish my colleges would have taught business courses. It leaves a
>great gap in our education if attending college, which by the way is billed
>to be a "well arounded education". I had hoped in the 15 years out of
>college this would have changed. I always recommand to up and coming clay
>artist, to finish college (if attending) and then spend a year or two with a
>working artist. This will introduce them to aspects of business and selling
>they never knew.
>CoilLady
>Carol Jackaway
Carol,
I'm off this weekend to the Univ of Florida to discuss the Crafts Business
Institute with them. We hold this event each fall and would like to offer
CEU credits to attendees. Thanks for your input!
Wendy Rosen
Susan L. Ross on fri 19 sep 97
In a message dated 97-09-18 09:39:10 EDT, you write:
<<
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dear Wendy,
I wish my colleges would have taught business courses. It leaves a
great gap in our education if attending college, which by the way is billed
to be a "well arounded education". I had hoped in the 15 years out of
college this would have changed. I always recommand to up and coming clay
artist, to finish college (if attending) and then spend a year or two with a
working artist. This will introduce them to aspects of business and selling
they never knew.
CoilLady
Carol Jackaway
>>
Actually I think it would be a good idea if art majors were required to
either double major in business or at the very least minor in business. And
as a curriculum requirement, spend a semester or so interning or apprenticing
(much like an education major) to gain a taste of this business of potting.
:-)
Su
RubySuMoon@aol.com
David Hendley on sat 20 sep 97
>Actually I think it would be a good idea if art majors were required to
>either double major in business or at the very least minor in business.
I have a degree in business, and I consider it to be totally irrelevant to
anything I do as a potter.
Business degrees are called "Business Administration",
and are designed for people who want get started climbing up the ladder in
the corporate world.
Something like "Business for Artists" or "Business for the Self Employed"
would
(hopefuuly) be worthwhile, but I've never heard of such offerings.
And of course, some real experience with a working artist would be great.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
See David Hendley's Pottery Page at
http://www.sosis.com/hendley/david/
The Wrights on sun 21 sep 97
David Hendley wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Actually I think it would be a good idea if art majors were required
> >either double major in business or at the very least minor in business.
>
> I have a degree in business, and I consider it to be totally irrelevant to
> anything I do as a potter.
> Business degrees are called "Business Administration",
> and are designed for people who want get started climbing up the ladder in
> the corporate world.
> Something like "Business for Artists" or "Business for the Self Employed"
> would
> (hopefuuly) be worthwhile, but I've never heard of such offerings.
> And of course, some real experience with a working artist would be great.
>
> David Hendley
> Maydelle, Texas
> See David Hendley's Pottery Page at
> http://www.sosis.com/hendley/david/
I haven't heard of anything of this sort in colleges, but I know here in
New Jersey they have adult education courses and often times they offer
courses about starting and running small business.
Robert S. Bruch on sun 21 sep 97
Ditto to David Henley's comments...........
I have an MBA and it does help.............
to earn enough $$$$ on my own so that I don't
have to be concerned with having ceramics pay
for itself. The MBA would be useful if you
wanted to manage a gallery, and it did help in
graduate level courses in non profit and arts
management. The area of small self-employed
artisans is outside the realm of b.school issues.
Unless you want to start a large scale production
facility which includes hiring and managing
a number of employees.
jmho
--
Bob Bruch rsb8@po.cwru.edu
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