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separan 20 throwing lubricant???

updated thu 31 oct 96

 

Pamela Jo Stamper on sun 27 oct 96

Hi all,
I have been reading through old issues of Ceramics Monthly and in
an article about potter/teacher, J. Sheldon Carey; it was mentioned that he
used a synthetic polymer called Separan 20 produced by Dow Chemical instead
of water or slip. The advantage is that the pot can be worked longer
without being weakened. Has anyone on the list ever tried this stuff?
According to the writer, "Granules are mixed with water a clear odorless
jelly results." I have a number of questions? Does it work? Is is safe?
Can scrap clay be recycled after this compound is used on it? What about
the enviorment? etc, etc.
If this stuff works and is safe, does anyone else make it? I have
avoided Dow products for decades since they manufactured Napalm for the
'Nam war. For the information of those too young to remember, that was the
stuff that burned the skin off human beings. I can hold a grudge about that
sort of thing for an awfully long time.
Pamela Jo, on the North Oregon Coast--sunny today and the moon is
full tonight--what a delight!

Don Sanami on mon 28 oct 96

Hi Pameloa, Why change?> Dow Corning hasn't. A good plastic clay and
plenty of practice using water,should satisfy anyone. Whatever the product
may be,the cost of producing our little bit runs into the $$$millions in
energy and rarely,if ever,provides a benefit to the environment. Toxic? It
has taken dsecades to bring DC to justice on breast implants alone.don On
Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Pamela Jo Stamper wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi all,
> I have been reading through old issues of Ceramics Monthly and in
> an article about potter/teacher, J. Sheldon Carey; it was mentioned that he
> used a synthetic polymer called Separan 20 produced by Dow Chemical instead
> of water or slip. The advantage is that the pot can be worked longer
> without being weakened. Has anyone on the list ever tried this stuff?
> According to the writer, "Granules are mixed with water a clear odorless
> jelly results." I have a number of questions? Does it work? Is is safe?
> Can scrap clay be recycled after this compound is used on it? What about
> the enviorment? etc, etc.
> If this stuff works and is safe, does anyone else make it? I have
> avoided Dow products for decades since they manufactured Napalm for the
> 'Nam war. For the information of those too young to remember, that was the
> stuff that burned the skin off human beings. I can hold a grudge about that
> sort of thing for an awfully long time.
> Pamela Jo, on the North Oregon Coast--sunny today and the moon is
> full tonight--what a delight!
>

Paul Monaghan on mon 28 oct 96

Pamela Jo Stamper wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi all,
> I have been reading through old issues of Ceramics Monthly and in
> an article about potter/teacher, J. Sheldon Carey; it was mentioned that he
> used a synthetic polymer called Separan 20 produced by Dow Chemical instead
> of water or slip. The advantage is that the pot can be worked longer
> without being weakened. Has anyone on the list ever tried this stuff?
> According to the writer, "Granules are mixed with water a clear odorless
> jelly results." I have a number of questions? Does it work? Is is safe?
> Can scrap clay be recycled after this compound is used on it? What about
> the enviorment? etc, etc.
> If this stuff works and is safe, does anyone else make it? I have
> avoided Dow products for decades since they manufactured Napalm for the
> 'Nam war. For the information of those too young to remember, that was the
> stuff that burned the skin off human beings. I can hold a grudge about that
> sort of thing for an awfully long time.
> Pamela Jo, on the North Oregon Coast--sunny today and the moon is
> full tonight--what a delight!

Pamela Jo,

The technology for the jelly material from the granuales most likely
resulted from the military research done by Dow and others for napalm.
War is terrible and the Nam war was one of the worst but because of our
politicians not industry. I hate to say it but if you boycott all the
manufacturers who supplied war materiel for the military than you'll
have a very, very spartan lifestyle. Don't forget Napalm is jellied
gasoline and Dow doesn't make gasoline. So dpo you boycott all the oil
companies? Without belaboring the point this could be extended to all
the chemical companies, food companies, etc., etc. Basically our entire
industrial base supplies materiel to the military and the war efforts.


Cheers,
Paul Monaghan
paul@web2u.com
WEB2U Productions
web2u.com The 'COOLEST Site on the WEB

Don Sanami on tue 29 oct 96

Pamela, Why belabor the Spartan life>?When push comes to shove,the basic
premise is PROFIT. Why pander to DC or any corporation simply because it
makes our life more comfortable? Hang in there,Pamela. donOn Mon, 28 Oct
1996, Paul Monaghan wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Pamela Jo Stamper wrote:
> >
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > Hi all,
> > I have been reading through old issues of Ceramics Monthly and in
> > an article about potter/teacher, J. Sheldon Carey; it was mentioned that he
> > used a synthetic polymer called Separan 20 produced by Dow Chemical instead
> > of water or slip. The advantage is that the pot can be worked longer
> > without being weakened. Has anyone on the list ever tried this stuff?
> > According to the writer, "Granules are mixed with water a clear odorless
> > jelly results." I have a number of questions? Does it work? Is is safe?
> > Can scrap clay be recycled after this compound is used on it? What about
> > the enviorment? etc, etc.
> > If this stuff works and is safe, does anyone else make it? I have
> > avoided Dow products for decades since they manufactured Napalm for the
> > 'Nam war. For the information of those too young to remember, that was the
> > stuff that burned the skin off human beings. I can hold a grudge about that
> > sort of thing for an awfully long time.
> > Pamela Jo, on the North Oregon Coast--sunny today and the moon is
> > full tonight--what a delight!
>
> Pamela Jo,
>
> The technology for the jelly material from the granuales most likely
> resulted from the military research done by Dow and others for napalm.
> War is terrible and the Nam war was one of the worst but because of our
> politicians not industry. I hate to say it but if you boycott all the
> manufacturers who supplied war materiel for the military than you'll
> have a very, very spartan lifestyle. Don't forget Napalm is jellied
> gasoline and Dow doesn't make gasoline. So dpo you boycott all the oil
> companies? Without belaboring the point this could be extended to all
> the chemical companies, food companies, etc., etc. Basically our entire
> industrial base supplies materiel to the military and the war efforts.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Paul Monaghan
> paul@web2u.com
> WEB2U Productions
> web2u.com The 'COOLEST Site on the WEB
>