Joyce Lee, Jim Lee on thu 24 apr 97
I wish that all of you could benefit from the information many
Clayarters have posted directly to me about their trials in removing the
Shimpo wheelhead (which is necessary if we are to install the
splashpan). They've used crowbars, many kinds of pulley devices, soaked
the shaft in WD40 and other oily liquids, hammered, twisted, contorted
and on and on. Often they've had to call it quits. Only two reported
that they actually just followed directions and got the desired results.
Much as I hate to admit it, we are probably going to give up if we
haven't already damaged the wheel. I'll know more as I throw more.
Should have a couple of hours tomorrow. We did talk to Maxine and Gary
at Shimpo each of whom was very pleasant, professional and obviously
wanted to help. They told us that if we did have to damage the wheelhead
in order to remove it, they would of course replace it. If I heard
correctly, it seems even the Shimpo people at the factory often must use
crowbars in order to remove the wheelhead. We'll probably wind up sawing
the splashpan in half and installing it on the front of the wheel...if
any part still works after the torture it has endured today. Keep in
mind as I say we're probably giving up that my support person is of a
technical mind who early in his career had years of experience designing
and maintaining many kinds of machinery, pulleys, shafts, belts, fancy
tools etc. However, until we do decide to surrender to the
Gods of Poorly Designed Wheelheads it might be of benefit to the list,
if you have any suggestions for us, to post them to Clayart. I have
been amazed and appalled at some of the tales. However, if that is not
your choice, I'll be delighted to hear from you direct e-mail. That's
always fun as well as enlightening. Thank you so much for taking your
time to respond.
Joyce
You would not like this windy time in the Mojave. It makes all of us
desert denizens more than a bit crazy, and we look it with our red,
burning eyes and leaky nostrils, dry hair and itchy skin. The tumbleweed
skeletons piling up along the fence snatch us with their painful
stickers when we attempt to redirect their efforts to tumble over our
gates. Bad time in the Mojave.
Richard Aerni on fri 25 apr 97
Joyce,
Sorry to hear about your frustrating experiences with the Shimpo
wheelhead. I've two of them, one 35 years old, the other 20, and one of
the things I've always liked about them is the ease with which the
wheelhead comes off. Just a twist of the T-wrench and lift it off. It's
so simple I can't imagine how it could be a problem, unless it was put
on with the set screw on the curved section of the shaft instead of the
flat cutout. Hope you eventually get yours off. BTW, I've never used
the splash pans on mine as they seem to limit the size of the bat you can
use.
Now if you could give me an easy way to get a Brent CXC wheelhead off...
Richard Aerni
Joyce Lee, Jim Lee wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I wish that all of you could benefit from the information many
> Clayarters have posted directly to me about their trials in removing the
> Shimpo wheelhead (which is necessary if we are to install the
> splashpan). They've used crowbars, many kinds of pulley devices, soaked
> the shaft in WD40 and other oily liquids, hammered, twisted, contorted
> and on and on. Often they've had to call it quits. Only two reported
> that they actually just followed directions and got the desired results.
>
Craig Martell on fri 25 apr 97
At 07:05 AM 4/24/97 EDT, Joyce Lee wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I wish that all of you could benefit from the information many
>Clayarters have posted directly to me about their trials in removing the
>Shimpo wheelhead (which is necessary if we are to install the
>splashpan).
Hi Joyce:
I don't have a Shimpo wheel but I have an idea that might help, maybe not.
Have you applied any heat to the collar on the wheelhead that fits over the
shaft? The aluminum collar should expand faster and quicker than the steel
shaft and this might release the wheelhead. Of course, you need a torch to
do this. I would start out with very gentle heating. Don't even get the
metal to dull red. If possible, have someone heat while another person
applies force to remove the wheelhead. I've had to do this with vacuum pump
drive wheels and it usually works but they are steel and much easier to get at.
I wish you well! Craig Martell-Oregon
Susan Ammann on fri 25 apr 97
Hi Joyce,
I have a couple of geriatric Shimpo wheels and don't have a problem
getting the wheel head off when necessary, although the last time I
pulled it off it did take some twisting. I don't know if your wheel
is made the same as mine are, but I was wondering if you could remove
the screw pin thinghy from under the wheel head, then turn the wheel
on, hold on to the head and see if it would spin itself off. If it
didn't send you into orbit, it just might come off.
Susan Ammann
Susanfam@laplaza.org
David E. McCall on fri 25 apr 97
Joyce Lee, Jim Lee wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I wish that all of you could benefit from the information many
> Clayarters have posted directly to me about their trials in removing the
> Shimpo wheelhead (which is necessary if we are to install the
> splashpan). They've used crowbars, many kinds of pulley devices, soaked
> the shaft in WD40 and other oily liquids, hammered, twisted, contorted
> and on and on. Often they've had to call it quits. Only two reported
> that they actually just followed directions and got the desired results.
> Much as I hate to admit it, we are probably going to give up if we
> haven't already damaged the wheel. I'll know more as I throw more.
> Should have a couple of hours tomorrow. We did talk to Maxine and Gary
> at Shimpo each of whom was very pleasant, professional and obviously
> wanted to help. They told us that if we did have to damage the wheelhead
> in order to remove it, they would of course replace it. If I heard
> correctly, it seems even the Shimpo people at the factory often must use
> crowbars in order to remove the wheelhead. We'll probably wind up sawing
> the splashpan in half and installing it on the front of the wheel...if
> any part still works after the torture it has endured today. Keep in
> mind as I say we're probably giving up that my support person is of a
> technical mind who early in his career had years of experience designing
> and maintaining many kinds of machinery, pulleys, shafts, belts, fancy
> tools etc. However, until we do decide to surrender to the
> Gods of Poorly Designed Wheelheads it might be of benefit to the list,
> if you have any suggestions for us, to post them to Clayart. I have
> been amazed and appalled at some of the tales. However, if that is not
> your choice, I'll be delighted to hear from you direct e-mail. That's
> always fun as well as enlightening. Thank you so much for taking your
> time to respond.
>
> Joyce
> You would not like this windy time in the Mojave. It makes all of us
> desert denizens more than a bit crazy, and we look it with our red,
> burning eyes and leaky nostrils, dry hair and itchy skin. The tumbleweed
> skeletons piling up along the fence snatch us with their painful
> stickers when we attempt to redirect their efforts to tumble over our
> gates. Bad time in the Mojave.
I have been talking to the guy that does the repair work in our shop and
he tells me that he has had some luck removing Shimpo wheelheads by
jambing a 2x4 into the flywheel and having someone hold it so the
flywheel doesnot turn then having a second person (with lots of muscle
and stamina) crank left and right on the wheel head until it works
loose. The problem seems to be the straight shaft. If ANYTHING is in
the mating area it jambs the works and makes removing the wheel head a
real b____. He said that even this method only works about 80% of the
time.
Best of Luck
Dave
Clay on fri 25 apr 97
My dear,
My machanic just told me that because I never use my hand break of my car,
that why today I've to paid $200.00 to fix it .
Same as your wheel head.
I've this great parts that convert the Shimpo wheel to a jigger. So I have
to take the wheel head off almost every week.It just come off like sweepppp...
Mr. Leonard tricks:put some oil before you put your weel head back on.
Note:for the first time you still need some anger to take it out.
Have you try there new banding wheel? Amazing.......
At 07:05 AM 4/24/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I wish that all of you could benefit from the information many
>Clayarters have posted directly to me about their trials in removing the
>Shimpo wheelhead (which is necessary if we are to install the
>splashpan). They've used crowbars, many kinds of pulley devices, soaked
>the shaft in WD40 and other oily liquids, hammered, twisted, contorted
>and on and on. Often they've had to call it quits. Only two reported
>that they actually just followed directions and got the desired results.
>Much as I hate to admit it, we are probably going to give up if we
>haven't already damaged the wheel. I'll know more as I throw more.
>Should have a couple of hours tomorrow. We did talk to Maxine and Gary
>at Shimpo each of whom was very pleasant, professional and obviously
>wanted to help. They told us that if we did have to damage the wheelhead
>in order to remove it, they would of course replace it. If I heard
>correctly, it seems even the Shimpo people at the factory often must use
>crowbars in order to remove the wheelhead. We'll probably wind up sawing
>the splashpan in half and installing it on the front of the wheel...if
>any part still works after the torture it has endured today. Keep in
>mind as I say we're probably giving up that my support person is of a
>technical mind who early in his career had years of experience designing
>and maintaining many kinds of machinery, pulleys, shafts, belts, fancy
>tools etc. However, until we do decide to surrender to the
>Gods of Poorly Designed Wheelheads it might be of benefit to the list,
>if you have any suggestions for us, to post them to Clayart. I have
>been amazed and appalled at some of the tales. However, if that is not
>your choice, I'll be delighted to hear from you direct e-mail. That's
>always fun as well as enlightening. Thank you so much for taking your
>time to respond.
>
>Joyce
>You would not like this windy time in the Mojave. It makes all of us
>desert denizens more than a bit crazy, and we look it with our red,
>burning eyes and leaky nostrils, dry hair and itchy skin. The tumbleweed
>skeletons piling up along the fence snatch us with their painful
>stickers when we attempt to redirect their efforts to tumble over our
>gates. Bad time in the Mojave.
>
F. Melville on fri 25 apr 97
Hello, Joyce,
I don't have and have never tried out a Shimpo wheel, so maybe I'm
just going to give useless advice.
However, in my supplier's catalogue (Greenbarn, Surrey, B.C.), I see that a
two-piece Shimpo splashpan is listed "for all wheels made after 1981". It
costs $5 (canadian) more than the one-piece splashpan which, I quote: "is
designed for replacement on older model Shimpo wheels prior to 1981.
Requires removal of wheelhead and securing pan with 2 bolts". Wouldn't
they exchange the splashpan you have for the later model? I have a Pacifica
wheel, which I find excellent, and the two-piece splashpan couldn't be
easier to remove - the splashpan is cheaper than the Shimpo model by half
and might well fit your wheel too. Just a thought...
Francoise
F. Melville
Indalo Pottery
P.O. Box 95
Port Edward, B.C.
Canada V0V 1G0
Email:fmelvill@mail.kaien.com
http://members.tripod.com/~indalopottery/index.html
Robert C. Rank on tue 20 oct 98
Can anyone tell me where to get a new belt for my SHIMPO. It is 20 years
old and the belt is wearing out.
Lynn
roblynn@psnw.com
Rick Berman on sat 24 oct 98
I would recommend finding a Shimpo add in any clay magazine and calling
the free 800 number and asking them. They have spare parts for everything
they ever made.
Rick Berman
Atlanta
Maxine Cohn. on wed 28 oct 98
Lynn,
You can get parts for Shimpo Wheels, pugmills, and ConeArt Kilns from any
Shimpo dealer (most ceramic suppliers are Shimpo dealers). To find out the
dealer in your area, please contact Shimpo directly at 630-671-2137/2138 or e-
mail us at Shimpopot1@aol.com
Maxine Cohn. on fri 30 oct 98
Sandy
Shimpo manufactures 2 types of wheels - the RK 10 and the Masters Series. The
RK 10 has an attached foot pedal and stick shift. You asked about smoothness.
This is accomplished through a traction drive system which is unique to Shimpo
RK 10 wheels.
The Masters series operates with a remote (on a cable) foot pedal. The wheel
head is driven by a belt which offers an extremely quiet wheel.
Shimpo does not make a wheel that has both the attached and the remote pedal
on the same wheel.
Most potters place the wheel on a skid or blocks to raise it higher. Please
call your local Shimpo dealer for prices of both types of wheels. For a
dealer in your area, please call us at 630-671-2137/2138.
Linda Arbuckle on sat 28 dec 02
I have a newer model of Shimpo wheel in my home studio, and have been
very pleased except for the splash pan. I have an early 2-part,
removable splash pan that fits together too loosely. The wheel itself is
quiet, powerful, and pleasant to use.
At school we have some of the old, green warhorse Shimpos. They've
withstood a lot, but are not popular because the speed adjustment is
stiff and they're noisy compared to contemporary wheels. They are a
testament to lasting construction. Hope the new ones last as long.
They're nice wheels.
Linda Arbuckle, Professor
University of Florida
School of Art and Art History
P.O. Box 115801
Gainesville, FL 32611
http://www.arts.ufl.edu/artex02/html/ceramics/arbuckle.html
(352) 392-0201 x 219
Charles Moore on sat 28 dec 02
I agree with Linda Arbuckle regarding the Shimpo wheel. I especially like
the reversing function of the wheel. It can be very handy when trimming or
decorating.
But after suffering several years with the 2-part, removable splash pan, I
recently bought a 1-piece splash pan. The new pan is more difficult to take
off because one has to remove the wheel head itself. But the 2-part pan
leaked all around and allowed a great deal of clay build up under the head.
This meant that if I changed from stoneware to porcelain, cleaning the wheel
took a very long time. When I used the Shimpo email address to discuss this
issue, I received no reply.
There is one additional drawback to the Shimpo: if you want to elevate the
machine to stand upright while throwing, the foot pedal, which is directly
attached to the wheel, has to be raised as well (at least on the Shimpo
models that I have seen). I would note, however, that some people do not
use the foot pedal even when seated; there is a sort of lever (attached to
the foot pedal) that can adjust the speed of wheel head.
In other words, I vote "yes" on the Shimpo, with qualifications.
Charles Moore
Sacramento
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Arbuckle"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:40 AM
Subject: Shimpo Wheel
> I have a newer model of Shimpo wheel in my home studio, and have been
> very pleased except for the splash pan. I have an early 2-part,
> removable splash pan that fits together too loosely. The wheel itself is
> quiet, powerful, and pleasant to use.
>
>
>
> At school we have some of the old, green warhorse Shimpos. They've
> withstood a lot, but are not popular because the speed adjustment is
> stiff and they're noisy compared to contemporary wheels. They are a
> testament to lasting construction. Hope the new ones last as long.
> They're nice wheels.
>
>
>
> Linda Arbuckle, Professor
>
> University of Florida
>
> School of Art and Art History
>
> P.O. Box 115801
>
> Gainesville, FL 32611
>
> http://www.arts.ufl.edu/artex02/html/ceramics/arbuckle.html
>
> (352) 392-0201 x 219
>
>
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Jim Cullen on sun 29 dec 02
My trusty Shimpo is 26 years old (I'm MUCH older) and running like a
charm (the Shimpo). I am left-handed (that explains a lot), throw
right-handed (clockwise) and trim left-handed (counterclockwise). My
Shimpo allows me to do this without a hitch. I also throw standing (my
Shimpo sits on a short table). I never considered replacing my Shimpo!
It has survived 5 moves and is contemplating another next summer. Wish
us luck.
Keep Centered
CULLEN
Naperville, IL
Mildred Herot on tue 26 dec 06
I haven't had time to go over to DelVal (clay supplier) to post the sale =
of my Shimpo wheel so, if anyone is interested, it's still available. I =
live in Cheltenham which is right outside of Phila. and am asking =
$300.00. Anyone interested is welcome to check it out.Please respond =
directly. Mildred Herot
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