Karen Greene on tue 31 dec 96
I purchased a used Bailey Slab Roller recently and need some information.
The folks at Bailey werent particularly forthcoming. Probably because i
wanted to find out how to fix/use this one and not purchase new equipment.
It 's a "drive board" type. I had never heard of this before i got this
one. It has two particle board driveboards. They are about 22X48 inches.
My problem is that I have to force the boards through the rollers. This is
way too much work. I know i must be doing something wrong. I have used
other Bailey slab rollers and know that they are great machines. The guy
at Bailey did finally give up that the backing on the drive board may be
the problem or the texture on the roller may be the problem. I just
inspected both. I am not sure about the texture on the roller, but the
backing on the board seems to be worn and somewhat patchy. Is there some
product i could use to re-coat the back, or to coat a new board? Can the
textured part of the bottom roller be replaced? How textured is textured on
the roller, there is one small place on the roller at the edge that is worn
through to some type of plastic backing. If i had to guess I would say
that this is some kind of industrial strength sandpaper with a glued/epoxy
backing thats stuck on the roller.
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June Perry on wed 1 jan 97
Dear Karen:
They should be able to sell you replacement covering for the rollers if it is
missing. I wasn't quite sure what you were trying to describe.
Maybe this is too obvious, but maybe if the rollers are ok you just need to
open the gap between the rollers a bit more.
Also it helps to do a few passes, first with the rollers open wider and then
closed down on subsquent passes.
Do you have the original instruction booklet? That gives hints on how to form
the clay to make an easy pass through the wheels.
Without seeing it it's hard to try to figure out what your problem is.
Regards,
June
peter cowen on sun 21 sep 97
I built this little roller in the middle '70s. It was a tool made slabs,
some trouble keeping it straight. I shut down the studio about 1985 and
saved most everything but this roller. Trashed it. Setting up studio again
thanks to the web, clayart, and SS. I would like another slab roller and
have a Bailey extruder (excelent) would probly buy a Bailey.
"Getting Into Pots, A Basic Pottery Manual" by George and Nancy Wettlaufer
(Prentice-Hall)
has plans for building your own.
I'm sure it's long out of print.
The plans are reprinted in Ceramics Monthly, February 1977.
It requires no welding and "costs about $40" (1977 prices).
At 08:18 AM 9/17/97 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>We are contemplating purchase of a small slab roller and would like any
>input on Bailey versus Northstar versus whoever. Also, are there any
>plans for building your own? Any help would be appreciated. Scott
>Harrison sharrison@humboldt.k12.ca.us
Kind Regards,
Peter Cowen Bradenton Fla. USA
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Joyce Lee on mon 23 mar 98
Chris,
I love my Bailey slab roller. However, I know others who think as
highly of their Northstars. When we bought the Bailey, we researched
all brands about which we had information, just as you are doing. For
me, it was Bailey's handsdown, reasons being ease of use, sturdiness, no
boards, and cooperative, honest attitude of Bailey's staff.
Joyce
In the Mojave regretting not planning for NCECA but looking forward to
workshop at Mendocino Art Center.
marie elaine on thu 2 jul 98
Does anyone in the florida area know if a new North Star Slab Roller
Package (free standing model, approximately 24"W x 48"L) can be purchased
for less than $659.00 (includes free shipping)?
I would consider one that has been used and is in good condition. You may
respond to me directly.Thanks.
marie elaine
melanza@n-jcenter.com
gracie on tue 19 jan 99
Hi, Clayarters,,,
If there is anyone wanting to sell a slabroller,, I'm in the market.. Saw
a Bailey yesterday, and would like to go in that direction.. This was a DWD
II series.. I've checked the archives, but they are such old posts, I'm
sure that they must have sold already.. Anybody have one that they would
like to sell? I could bite the bullet for a new one..but thought I would
check with you guys first... Many thanks... If so,, email me directly ,,,,
gracie.allen@cwix.com... Gracie in Carolina where the rain has pounded us,
but now the sun is trying to make a comeback....
Jim Bob Salazar on fri 28 may 99
hello all,
there is a Bailey slab roller for sale on ebay right now. go to =
www.ebay.com
and type =22slab roller=22 into search. the current price is =24142.00. =
might get it
for a bargain price....thought you might wanna' know.
jim bob salazar
Kathy Emler on tue 31 aug 99
I am interested in purchasing a slab roller. Any suggestions as to make, and
where to purchase one?
Thank you,
Kathy
NakedClay@aol.com on thu 2 sep 99
Hi Kathy, and other slab roller admirers!
Here is a post I shared not too long ago. One can purchase a slab roller from
any ceramics supply dealer. Be sure to shop around--prices vary from store to
store.
Enjoy!
Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM
=====================
I am a connisseur of slab rolling :). There are two types of slab rollers on
the market: Brent SlabRoller (non-stationary), and the type made by Bailey
and Northstar (stationary).
The Brent SlabRoller moving-roller machine. One gets the bed, leg set, roller
and cables, and masonite shims, when one purchases this device. This slab
roller works by the roller moving along a track, which is guided and kept in
place by steel cables. The roller is moved by turning a large wheel, which in
turn moves the roller over the entire length of the bed. One varies the
thickness of the clay by inserting (or removing) masonite shims on the bed,
then placing the clay to be slab-rolled on top of the shims (I use a towel to
protect the shims). A canvas blanket covers the clay, so the clay lays out
flat, and won't stick to the roller.
Advantages: One can decorate the surface of the clay, without the "shifting"
associated with the stationary slab rollers. The Brents I've used come in
three bed widths. As a person who often rolls coffee grounds and other
organic materials into the clay, the Brent is my slab roller of choice.
Disadvantages: Brent SlabRollers are fairly expensive--just under $1500 for
the narrow bed (18") slab roller. Masonite shims can be difficult to handle,
and to store when the slab roller is in use. The cable assembly is
complicated to maintain--exact tension must be maintained in the cables, to
keep the roller moving along its track.
The stationary-roller machines consist of a friction-pull roller assembly, a
table to clamp or bolt the roller assembly to, and a large canvas blanket, to
place the clay into. The roller assembly "pulls" the blanket containing the
clay in-between two spring and gear-mounted rollers, which press the clay
equally from top and bottom. One adjusts the clay thickness with a turn-knob.
A large wheel or hand-crank is turned, to pull the blanket and clay through
the roller assembly. This is the slab roller of choice for critical-width
tiles and other fine-tuned rolling.
Advantages: Inexpensive (one can acquire a Northstar for under $500). The
slab thickness adjustment is fairly easy to operate. Easy to maintain roller
assembly.
Disadvantages: One must insert clay into a folded blanket, which can be
cumbersome if the clay ball is large. One might want to purchase a seperate
blanket for darker clays, as the blanket will acquire the color of the clay
being slab-rolled.
I hope this is helpful!
Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM
Joyce Lee on mon 17 jan 00
Any equipment I have in my studio has to be able to take being misused,
misunderstood and mistreated. I love my Bailey slabroller.
Mentees use it all the time. When I'm teaching now I always begin with a
slab, which enables beginners to produce a dramatic creation all his own
original work in a short time... in fact, I almost always require six of
the same genre before moving on...and they can produce six in rapid
order. You should see the southwestern Indian forms one artist/mentee
is making with the slabs.... not that you couldn't do the same....but
in just weeks she has progressed to professional quality work. Anyway,
what I meant to report here is that my Bailey is wonderful!
Joyce
In the Mojave where we walk among the Australian eucalyptus trees
in many populated parts of our desert. A friend operates a eucalyptus
ranch.....funny, in our west everything is a ranch...cottontail ranch
etc...but in Kentucky from whence I originate everything is a
farm...granddad had a horse farm, not ranch......No wonder we confuse
outlanders. Feri from Australia mentioned the eucalyptus in the
label-removal post. They are quite majestic! Add grandeur
to our lowly scrub plants...
Michael on mon 6 mar 00
Thanks!
I found several types of Pellon - Craft fuse seemed the heaviest but
there were some others - not sure which you are using. In the same
section of the fabric store I found a 100% polypropylene "tear away" that
seemed heavier and more solidly bonded. Thanks for your help!
Michael
At 10:33 PM 03/04/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>>>>
I use a North star and love it. never tried to get
very thin slabs however. What I do is make a "sandwich" of a thin ware
board (about 1/4") heavy pellon or canvas then clay and heavy canvas
again. This allows me to lay another ware board on top after the slab is
rolled and flip the whole slab without disturbing the clay. Then I
remove the original ware board (now on the top) lift the pellon off and
put the dry side down on the clay and roll through again. Since we do
hundreds of slabs a week. We can roll out slabs pick them up by the
pellon and store them until assembly at a later time. Since I flip the
slab end to end, I almost never have any warping. One hint make sure
your ware board are of the same depth. Have at least two I have about
10. Also have several pieces of pellon, (canvas works better) damp
cloth just causes problems. This should more than solve the depth
problem. Good luck and have a super sun shine day.
darlene beverlin
Ps pellon is a cloth use as a lining in clothes. craft weight
pellon can be purchased at most Wal-marts or any large craft store.
<<<<<<<<
ilene on sat 8 apr 00
HI,
I was wondering what you guys thought about a slab roller.... is it
worth the expense? I'm making slabs with a rolling pin currently. Does
anyone have one they want to sell? Arms getting tired...
Ilene
Frank Gaydos on sun 9 apr 00
Ilene,
You answered your own question..
In addition to not getting tired, the slab makers give consistent results
and are very fast. If time is money to you, then by all means invest in a
roller.
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> HI,
> I was wondering what you guys thought about a slab roller.... is it
> worth the expense? I'm making slabs with a rolling pin currently. Does
> anyone have one they want to sell? Arms getting tired...
>
> Ilene
>
Rod, Marian, and Holly Morris on sun 9 apr 00
I think it depends totally on your goal. Are you making many tiles and need
the work savings for high output production? Do you need to control the
compression process and even out the stretching of the clay by turning the
slab as you roll it several times with the pin (as you would in some
hump/slump work?) The slab roller has limited applicabilty, but it is a
definite work saver for some applications.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ilene"
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 10:55 PM
Subject: slab roller
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> HI,
> I was wondering what you guys thought about a slab roller.... is it
> worth the expense? I'm making slabs with a rolling pin currently. Does
> anyone have one they want to sell? Arms getting tired...
>
> Ilene
>
Marion Barnes-Schwartz. on sun 9 apr 00
llene,
If you are making a lot of pieces using clay slabs, a slab roller is
definitely worth the expense. I got my Bailey roller about 4 years ago and I
use it as much as I use my wheel. I got it specifically to make tiles for my
house, but I use it for much, much more. More recently I have been rolling
slabs and making plates, platters, soap dishes, etc. The Bailey is well made
and easy to use.
Marion
Denver, NY
clennell on sun 9 apr 00
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>HI,
>I was wondering what you guys thought about a slab roller.... is it
>worth the expense? I'm making slabs with a rolling pin currently. Does
>anyone have one they want to sell? Arms getting tired...
>
>Ilene
Ilene: Slab rollers for us have ended up being expensive glaze tables. We
have owned 3. We then sell them because they take up too much room. We
have a big Bailey down the basement with raw materials piled on it. For
production slab potters I think they are as necessary as a wheel for a
wheel potter. We fall into the wheel category.I'd trade it in a wink for a
good motorized kick wheel.
We're in Canada- make us an offer. No, we don't ship!
cheers,
Tony
Tony and Sheila Clennell
Sour Cherry Pottery
4545 King St.
Beamsville, On.
Canada L0R 1B1
http://www.sourcherrypottery.com
905-563-9382
fax 905-563-9383
NakedClay@aol.com on mon 10 apr 00
Hi Everybody!
I agree with all I've read, about the ease of using a slab roller. Just a few
thoughts:
It's a great exercise machine! Moving the big wheel, that many slab rollers
have, is a great strength builder for the arms, and shoulders.
I like the fact that I can get consistent results, can blend clay by slabbing
it (then rolling it up, and reslab-rolling it), and can impress textures,
leaf patterns, etc. with this device
Best wishes!
Milton NakedClay@AOL.COM
93 degrees in the Mojave Desert today! I lived up to my Email name--just me,
mud, and a big smile!
sandra nissen on tue 20 jun 00
Marian:
The Bailey works with the double adjustable rollers and is excellent.
It comes in several sizes. Our school has one and it takes an
incredible amount of abuse and still works well. Because of that
experience, that is what I purchased for my own studio.
Sandra
Woodstock, GA
Val on fri 15 dec 00
Well I think I need a slab roller what do you think?.....I can't seem
to get my pieces even in thickness and the only way I think I will
achieve this is by using a slab roller.....now my question is....are
they expensive and can you find used ones around?
Have a good day everyone and thanks for any help or advice you can
give me.....
Val Mann w.w. val@tlaz.com
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mudlark on mon 4 jun 01
Have a friend that's looking for a used Brent 22" slab roller. Anybody selling
one?
--
Clyde Tullis
Mudlark Pottery
320 G Street
Salida, CO 81201
719-539-1299
mudlark@chaffee.net
http://www.mudlarkpottery.com
Sandra Benscoter on thu 21 mar 02
I have a North Star and love it!! It also doubles as a press for my
monoprinting!!!
Double the duty, double the fun!!!
Sande
sbenscoter@juno.com
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John Jensen on thu 21 mar 02
I was looking for a small slab roller for my pottery and decided on the 18"
Northstar. I was really looking for the cheapest thing I could find,
because my slab needs are minimal. I've been very happy with it, and it's a
lot better than I expected for the money. I think it's a fine machine. At
the School we have a large Bailey, and that is nice too, but I have no room
for such a large machine in my business space.
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery, Annapolis
mudbug@toad.net, www.Toadhouse.com
Susan Parrish on thu 21 mar 02
Just wanted to add a quick 2 cents worth. I have a 30" Bailey and I =
can't say enough good things about it. It's great in every way and =
definitely built to last.=20
Susan Parrish
Wanda Holmes on thu 21 mar 02
I have a 24" Northstar and I'm very pleased with it. Wanda
-----Original Message-----
From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On
Behalf Of John Jensen
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:20 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Slab roller
I was looking for a small slab roller for my pottery and decided on the 18"
Northstar. I was really looking for the cheapest thing I could find,
because my slab needs are minimal. I've been very happy with it, and it's a
lot better than I expected for the money. I think it's a fine machine. At
the School we have a large Bailey, and that is nice too, but I have no room
for such a large machine in my business space.
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery, Annapolis
mudbug@toad.net, www.Toadhouse.com
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Betsy Cox on thu 21 mar 02
I also have the NorthStar slab roller and love it. Have had it for =
almost 5 years with no problems and alot of use.=20
Betsy Cox
Fraley on fri 22 mar 02
I bought a Northstar standard 24" to replace a Brent SRC. I needed a
roller that had an easier method of slab thickness adjustment than the
masonite board system of the Brent. The only drawback to the Northstar
is that it becomes a pain adjusting each screw on the sides of the
roller. To fix this I'm currently rigging way to just turn one knob
(imagine a sort of bicycle and chain contraption) which won't let me do
a taper from side to side but I don't care. Also you can save a few
bucks by building your own table and just buying the roller, it's fairly
simple to construct.
Toby Atticus Fraley
Washington, PA
Les Haworth on fri 22 mar 02
Gears schmears! The North Star Slabroller has a Lifetime Warranty. Anyway,
they're shipping with new steel gears on the rollers now so no big deal.
There is also a substantial price difference. The Bailey DRD II 24 is
$1006.00 plus tax. The North Star model 500 Slabroller is $798.52 plus tax.
the savings is $207.48. Hey, I can buy 1000# of B-mix with the savings.
Ultimately it's performance, & personal preference that matter. I guess I'm
stuck on the North Star. It's a good product for the money. (More bang for
your buck!) Les H.
Lester R. Haworth III
Sales and Technical Support
Laguna Clay Co.
14400 Lomitas ave
City of Industry, CA 91746
1(800) 4-LAGUNA ext. 229
(626)330-0631 ext. 229
les@lagunaclay.com
www.lagunaclay.com
"The title of Artist is self-proclaimed!" Les H.
James Bowen on tue 1 oct 02
The Brent SRC was recommended to me because for a low price
it will do a 21" wide slab. My friend has used one for may
years, and thinks it's great. I too was disappointed with
the PMI equipment evaluations. What was the purpose of the
questioneers the testers completed?
"Osama's split and Wall Street's sagging. It's time to get
that puppy wagging."
Calvin Trillin
Millie Carpenter on tue 1 oct 02
Gayle,
when I get enough money saved or win the lottery, ;-) I will get a
north star
slab roller. at NCECA I mentioned that the table seemed a little too
tall for me.
the sales rep said that I should order the table with the legs designed
for the
Japanese market. that would drop the surface of the table down about 4
inches.
kind of like doing the vegetable chopping on the kitchen table instead
of the counter,
I am 4'11" so I do know what you mean about vertically challanged.
I know that some potters would say to just get the roller kit from which
ever
manufacturer and build your own table at what ever height is
comfortable. but for those of us who choose to go the pre-made way,
this seems to be the best. the other thing that I would get is the
wheel handle. also the good/bad thing that I noticed while using one in
a class was that it is fairly light weight and I was able to move it
out from the wall so that I could walk around it and adjust the height.
(people like us can't always
reach across)
Millie in Md. aspiring little old lady in tennis shoes
On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 12:31 PM, claybair wrote:
> I am going to buy a slab roller. I have poured over Jonathan's article
> but
> still feel the need for some ranking and/or personal opinions. I guess
> what
> I was looking for was a Consumers Report... the good, bad & the ugly.
> I think what might be a good addition is a ranking for body types...
> short,
> tall, little old feisty ladies etc. That way I might have realized
> before I
> bought my kiln that that I could fall into it only to be found days
> later
> with only my feet sticking out of the top!->
> So anyone who is vertically challenged say about 5ft tall and has slab
> roller send me your review.
>
> Gayle Bair
> Bainbridge Island, WA
> http://claybair.com
>
>
Joyce Lee on sun 8 dec 02
My Bailey dual roller was purchased
about four years ago. It was a
gift and was researched for a long
time before being purchased. The
North Star looked good, too, and
was a mite less expensive. I think I'd
have been pleased with it ..... close
call ..... but I do love that Bailey.
The dual rollers are in a fixed
position at the end of
the table and do not move back and
forth over the slab. The slab runs
through the rollers out onto the table, much like old wringer washing =
machines ... no board needed.... easy-to-manipulate canvas shims (sp?) =
carry the
clay through the wringers.
If I'd truly believed that the Aging Process
was going to continue and not stop at
64 as I'd planned, I'd have held out for
the electrical control. Untruthful Friends
kept remarking, "You haven't changed
a bit!" Former Students declared, "You
look exactly the same." Sooo, I=20
figured that I was one of those Lucky
Ducks who had quit aging ...... wrong.
Drat. Just as I get a Happy Belief
going, reality sets in. Double Drat.
Joyce
In the Mojave
islandplace3 on fri 4 apr 03
Was in the local machine shop watching a guy fabricate a clam grader;
motorized adjustable rollers that are used in the back of the local
boats to size clams. I realized I was looking at a slab roller with
the rollers mounted horizontally, rather than vertically. I did a
quick sketch and he said sure he could build what I wanted, out of
stainless steel and mororized, cheaper that off the shelf hand
cranked models. He invisioned motorizing the top roller and letting
the bottom roller run free. Anyone have any knowledge or input on
whether this is feasible; rather than having both rollers motorized?
Mike Leiner
mudlady@ATT.NET on sun 27 jul 03
Slab roller for sale, BRENT SR-14 with two shims,excellent condition.
Located in Fairfield, Connecticut, U.S.A. Cost $450
Brenda Funk on sun 15 aug 04
Hello, everyone. I've been off the list for a long time now - it was
sucking away too much clay time, since I have a hard time not reading every
single post! But now I need feedback / advice.
I'm in the market for a slab roller, and I like the Northstar 24". I like
the idea of not dealing with boards, and it seems to make sense that there
would be less warpage when the clay is compressed from both sides. But, I
have the opportunity to purchase a Brent SRC20 for $500 locally. Since it
retails for $1650, this seems like a really good deal. It's a savings of
three hundred over the Northstar, but I've never used either (or for that
matter, any) roller, so I don't know the pros and cons of the design, except
what I've mentioned, which is only based on intuition. What would you do?
By the way, I'm not doing anything large, just serving trays so far. I've
been using a heavy rolling pin, and I just broke it.
Brenda
Craig Dunn Clark on sun 15 aug 04
Brenda, I currently use a Northstar which I use regularly and enjoy. Don't
have anything negative to say about it unlike the small Northstar extruder
which I do not like at all.
Brenda, I have also use the Brent and was equally impressed with it. If the
Brent model is wider than the 24 inch Northstar I'd say go ahead and get it
espcially at the price you mention.'
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda Funk"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: Slab roller
> Hello, everyone. I've been off the list for a long time now - it was
> sucking away too much clay time, since I have a hard time not reading
every
> single post! But now I need feedback / advice.
>
> I'm in the market for a slab roller, and I like the Northstar 24". I like
> the idea of not dealing with boards, and it seems to make sense that there
> would be less warpage when the clay is compressed from both sides. But, I
> have the opportunity to purchase a Brent SRC20 for $500 locally. Since it
> retails for $1650, this seems like a really good deal. It's a savings of
> three hundred over the Northstar, but I've never used either (or for that
> matter, any) roller, so I don't know the pros and cons of the design,
except
> what I've mentioned, which is only based on intuition. What would you do?
>
> By the way, I'm not doing anything large, just serving trays so far. I've
> been using a heavy rolling pin, and I just broke it.
>
> Brenda
>
>
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L. P. Skeen on sun 15 aug 04
Brenda,
This has been discussed extensively within the last year, so you can get
lots of opinions from the archives. That said, get the NorthStar. You
won't be sorry.
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda Funk"
> I'm in the market for a slab roller, and I like the Northstar 24". But, I
have the opportunity to purchase a Brent SRC20 for $500 locally.
Gail Barnett on sun 15 aug 04
Brenda,
I just got the 24" Brent slab roller on Ebay - great price - great slab roller! $500 is an excellent price for the larger one. I am not disappointed at all. I love mine. So far so good - no warpage. I don't see how you can go wrong. Go fot it!
Gail Barnett
-----Original Message-----
From: Brenda Funk
Sent: Aug 15, 2004 1:47 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Slab roller
Hello, everyone. I've been off the list for a long time now - it was
sucking away too much clay time, since I have a hard time not reading every
single post! But now I need feedback / advice.
I'm in the market for a slab roller, and I like the Northstar 24". I like
the idea of not dealing with boards, and it seems to make sense that there
would be less warpage when the clay is compressed from both sides. But, I
have the opportunity to purchase a Brent SRC20 for $500 locally. Since it
retails for $1650, this seems like a really good deal. It's a savings of
three hundred over the Northstar, but I've never used either (or for that
matter, any) roller, so I don't know the pros and cons of the design, except
what I've mentioned, which is only based on intuition. What would you do?
By the way, I'm not doing anything large, just serving trays so far. I've
been using a heavy rolling pin, and I just broke it.
Brenda
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William Melstrom on sun 15 aug 04
Brenda --
Be sure that the bed of the Brent is not warped. A tired-out brent will
produce a slab that is thicker in the center, and thinner along the two
edges.
I am very happy with a used Northstar 24" that I bought for $150. It came
without a table. Instead the original user made two 3" high beds out of
plywood. You can buy beds from Northstar, they are called "table toppers,"
but it's pretty easy to make your own. Mine came with just a crank handle,
I don't miss the wagon wheel a bit. When not in use, the roller and beds
are stored underneath the 6' by 30" folding table that I use the roller on.
I have a very small studio, and this flexibility is invaluable to me.
William Melstrom
Austin Texas
www.handspiral.com
william@handspiral.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda Funk"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: Slab roller
> Hello, everyone. I've been off the list for a long time now - it was
> sucking away too much clay time, since I have a hard time not reading
every
> single post! But now I need feedback / advice.
>
> I'm in the market for a slab roller, and I like the Northstar 24". I like
> the idea of not dealing with boards, and it seems to make sense that there
> would be less warpage when the clay is compressed from both sides. But, I
> have the opportunity to purchase a Brent SRC20 for $500 locally. Since it
> retails for $1650, this seems like a really good deal. It's a savings of
> three hundred over the Northstar, but I've never used either (or for that
> matter, any) roller, so I don't know the pros and cons of the design,
except
> what I've mentioned, which is only based on intuition. What would you do?
>
> By the way, I'm not doing anything large, just serving trays so far. I've
> been using a heavy rolling pin, and I just broke it.
>
> Brenda
>
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Geraldine Wallace on mon 16 aug 04
I have the northstar...used it many times and do not make larger pieces so am
glad not to have the bigger one. They are very good about parts and advice.
Go for the smaller one..also takes up less space. g
Ivor on mon 16 aug 04
My partner is interested in monoprinting.
Has anyone ever used a slab roller for printing? (on paper not clay!)
If we shared the cost, it would be easier to justify the expense!
Ivor
Ivor J Townshend
Macclesfield UK
Ivor and Olive Lewis on tue 17 aug 04
Dear Ivor,
Though it sounds feasible to do this, my experience is that the
pressure needed to force paper into the intaglio of an etched plate is
a great deal more forceful than that needed to squeeze a block of soft
clay. If you could get someone who has a slab roller to cooperate you
could run tests.
Best regards,
Ivor,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
S. Australia.
Millard Balfrey on fri 20 aug 04
Forget the rest, get the Northstar. Used a Brent at a local ceramics course-
my buddy has a Northstar 24 that is a very reliable machine, have made a ton
of pots with it. Just setting up my pottery and got a Northstar Super 30- what
a workhorse. 4" rollers instead of 2", better gear reduction- have to turn the
wagon wheel more revolutions, but miminal physical effort, worth the extra
bucks
Mike Gordon on wed 25 aug 04
Beth,
If it's square slabs you are trying to make it's easy. Raise the
rollers up to 1'" and put the clay between the 2 canvas sheets and roll
it through, then turn the clay 180 degrees and cover with the canvas
and lower the rollers 1/4" and roll it through. Keep repeating this
until you gat to the thickness you desire. Remember to keep turning the
slab each time you lower the rollers. I've rolled slabs from 3/4 of a
25lb. bag of clay to get a slab 24" square in order to get a round slab
for a drape mold. Mike Gordon
bill edwards on thu 18 nov 04
I am looking for a good slab roller. Its been awhile because I usually throw everything. My back needs a rest on occasion and I would love to hear back from those out there that have had good experiences with certain rollers. You may write me off-list to save everyone heartache over having to read the posts. But, please do let me know.
Bill Edwards
Ed-Mar Studio and Gallery
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Dorothy Feibleman on fri 19 nov 04
I forgot to say that Bailey is having a sale now of slabrollers. I
contacted them about a motor and saw the prices..Reasonable, maybe h\the
same price I paid in 1986.
best D
>I am looking for a good slab roller. Its been awhile because I usually
>throw everything. My back needs a rest on occasion and I would love to
>hear back from those out there that have had good experiences with certain
>rollers. You may write me off-list to save everyone heartache over having
>to read the posts. But, please do let me know.
>
>Bill Edwards
>Ed-Mar Studio and Gallery
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Dorothy Feibleman on fri 19 nov 04
Dear Bill,
Bailey slab rollers are the best and most convenient for quick change of
thickness which is even.
I have used many others including some wonderful electric huge commercial
ones in Shigaraki, but for studio use the Bailey ones are the most simple
and straightforward and least complicated and are very strong.
Best,
d
>I am looking for a good slab roller. Its been awhile because I usually
>throw everything. My back needs a rest on occasion and I would love to
>hear back from those out there that have had good experiences with certain
>rollers. You may write me off-list to save everyone heartache over having
>to read the posts. But, please do let me know.
>
>Bill Edwards
>Ed-Mar Studio and Gallery
>apottersmark@yahoo.com
>
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Leonard Smith on sat 20 nov 04
In our studio we have a lovely bit of ex bakery equipment, an electric
pastry roller. It is all stainless steel with adjustable rollers and a leve=
r
operated 3 way switch (off, forward and reverse)
It was bought quite cheaply from a second hand food equipment dealer.
A very hand slab roller that takes no effort to roll out masses of slabs.
Just a thought for a source you might like to try.
Leonard Smith
Rosedale Street Gallery
2A Rosedale Street
Dulwich Hill NSW Australia 2203
Email: Leonard@rosedalestreetgallery.com
http://www.rosedalestreetgallery.com
> From: Dorothy Feibleman
> Reply-To: Clayart
> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:55:14 +0000
> To:
> Subject: Re: Slab Roller
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> I forgot to say that Bailey is having a sale now of slabrollers. I
> contacted them about a motor and saw the prices..Reasonable, maybe h\the
> same price I paid in 1986.
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Rae Mills on tue 21 feb 06
I would like to build a slab roller and have seen the postings regarding one designed by Ken Kang.
I have found the photos posted by one who made this slab roller but the url given for the schematics
does not seeem to work. Does anyone have the plans for this slab roller? How is it working for any
who built it? Does anyone know of any other plans available? I found the plans for the Wetlaufer slab
roller but the comments lead me to believe that this is not a good option.
Ken Kang on tue 21 feb 06
Thank you Rae. Yes, the schematics of the cable was wrong. I deleted that
and posted another picture.
http://photos.yahoo.com/rakuken2000
If you need more help contact me off line.
Aloha, Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rae Mills"
Subject: slab roller
>I would like to build a slab roller and have seen the postings regarding
>one designed by Ken Kang.
> I have found the photos posted by one who made this slab roller but the
> url given for the schematics
> does not seeem to work. Does anyone have the plans for this slab roller?
> How is it working for any
> who built it? Does anyone know of any other plans available? I found the
> plans for the Wetlaufer slab
> roller but the comments lead me to believe that this is not a good option.
Rose E. Black on wed 3 may 06
I'm looking for either a good, used slab roller that's 18", 20" or 24". I'm
in Ohio, so I'm hoping somebody near or in Ohio will have a reasonable
roller for sale.
Also, I'm looking for plans to build a slab roller in those sizes.
Thanks for your help.
Steve Slatin on wed 3 may 06
Rose --
If I'm not mistaken, there's a good set of
pictures in "Raku Ken's" yahoo photo album.
There's also an out-of-print book I have a copy
of somewhere around here (but, predictably, I
can't put my hands on it now) that has grainy
black and white pictures, but I think Ken's
pictures are better.
There's also a Canadian who sometimes posts here
who builds extruders and, I believe, a small slab
roller. Jacob something? I have one of his
extruders, it's very strongly built.
-- Steve Slatin
--- "Rose E. Black" wrote:
> I'm looking for either a good, used slab roller
> that's 18", 20" or 24". I'm
> in Ohio, so I'm hoping somebody near or in Ohio
> will have a reasonable
> roller for sale.
>
> Also, I'm looking for plans to build a slab
> roller in those sizes.
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John Hesselberth on thu 4 may 06
On May 3, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Steve Slatin wrote:
> Rose --
>
> If I'm not mistaken, there's a good set of
> pictures in "Raku Ken's" yahoo photo album.
>
>
>
>
> --- "Rose E. Black" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Also, I'm looking for plans to build a slab
>> roller in those sizes.
As a followup to Steve's suggestion, you can find Ken's slab roller
photos at:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rakuken2000/my_photos
Regards,
John
=3D?SHIFT_JIS?Q?Jay_Walsh?=3D on wed 6 apr 11
Changing slab roller in studio. Brent SR 20 slab roller for sale in St. =
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Charles IL,=3D20
good condition. Contact me by email for details or by phone at 630 584=3D2=
0=3D
9443. ask for jay or amanda for details.
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