Toni Martens on thu 11 jul 96
I had some bats for my wheel cut from quarter inch tempered ply. I
was assured that they would not be affected by water, but a couple of
months of use and they are splintering at the edges. I was also told
that it would not be a good idea to varnish them, is this right?
I have one plastic bat that came with my Brent wheel and that is
great but would prefer not to have to get any more of those as
imported things cost a kings ransom here. Any bright ideas would be
much appreciated.
Toni Martens.
LINHARES on thu 11 jul 96
Hi Toni
I've been working on tempered hardboard bats for several years.
Durring this time it has come to my attention that there are several
kinds of hardboard. The kind you want is smooth on both sides. When
making a batch of bats I sand the edges and soak them in Thompsons
water seal for at least five minutes, then hang them out to dry. I
have seen bats like this put up with daily use for about two years and
then they start to go bad. I think the next time I go to make bats
I'll try dipping them in polyurithane and see if that makes them last
any longer. Good luck!!
Paul in Ohio where it's sunny and 75
Rod Wuetherick on thu 11 jul 96
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From: Toni Martens[SMTP:barry@csurf.co.za]
"I had some bats for my wheel cut from quarter inch tempered ply. I
was assured that they would not be affected by water, but a couple of
months of use and they are splintering at the edges. I was also told
that it would not be a good idea to varnish them, is this right?"
Tony what made the biggest difference for me is first all my bats are 3/4"
ply good one side. I dip them all in good 'ole Thompsons water seal. Most
importantly follow the wood grain when you are cleaning the bat with your
rib or what have you. Hope this helps.... Think maybe 3/4" is overkill?
Cheers,
Rod Wuetherick in Calgary, AB, Canada where it's 90' and it's Stampede time
again. Yahoooooo
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Mark Luton on fri 12 jul 96
At 08:44 AM 7/11/96 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I had some bats for my wheel cut from quarter inch tempered ply. I
>was assured that they would not be affected by water, but a couple of
>months of use and they are splintering at the edges. I was also told
>that it would not be a good idea to varnish them, is this right?
>I have one plastic bat that came with my Brent wheel and that is
>great but would prefer not to have to get any more of those as
>imported things cost a kings ransom here. Any bright ideas would be
>much appreciated.
>Toni Martens.
>
> I,m not sure whether you can can fix your ply batts though you might
like to try just varnishing about an inch all the way around the outside.
I, myself use ply batts and after 2 years,the pin hole are wearing a
little but its easy enough to drill new ones.I use 'Form ply;the sort used
by concreters to make up form work.Its much cheaper than marine ply used in
boat building yet still remarkably durable.Try it. Good luck.
Mark Luton at TOOLAKEA BEACH POTTERY - just another day in paradise.
Toni Martens on fri 12 jul 96
>I've been working on tempered hardboard bats for several years.
Durring this time it has come to my attention that there are several
Hi Paul,
Thanks for your reply. This is why I love this list. The help comes
so quickly, much better than having to wait till I run into someone
who might have the answer. My other half tells me what I used was
Marine ply(whatever,bits of wood, all I reall care about is that the
damn things work and don't give me splinters)
I'm going to seal these and threaten to use them in my next raku
firing. That ought to scare them!
Take Care
Toni in Durban, South Africa where it's cooooold. even had SNOW!
Supposed to be sub tropical-----my blood is too thin for this!
Katy Sheridan on fri 12 jul 96
I made my bats from 3/4 in ply wood that I got from a Shash and Door company
that did custom wood work of all types. They had a cache of "good" size
plywood that has been treated for use for outdoor signs. It has made
wonderful bats. The un-treated bats that I made at the same time warped and
I got a few splinters in my hands.
Now...........! to bring up the toxicity issues!!!!! I did have a "breaking
in " period with them where I figured I was poisioning my self with the
fumes from the wet bats. It smelled like formaldehyde. I bet that Thompson's
WaterSeal would cause the same risk. It was a trade off for me. I took the risk.
Katy Sheridan
EastBay of California
Weather Report???? some fog and some other weather too......
Lori Wilkinson on fri 12 jul 96
At 08:44 AM 7/11/96 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I had some bats for my wheel cut from quarter inch tempered ply
>Toni Martens.
>
Hi Toni,
I use tempered masonite for my bats and if you can get double tempered that
is even better. I never wash or soak them, just scrape them when through
and they have lasted for several years with no problem, scrapes, gouges and
all since I trim as much as I can on the wheel.
My husband got a 4 x 8 3/8" sheet of the stuff and cut it in several
sizes, two to be exact and then used the drill press for the holes. I think
they are great and don't even use my plastic bats any more. These are
square bats. I have not coated them with anything either. I have no
problems with cracked bottoms since I stoped using the plastic too.
Another thought for those not fortunate enough to have a handy man or woman
around, some cities have senior centers where senior citizens do wood
working etc. and they often times will be glad to cut them.
Good luck.
Lori Wilkinson in Roswell NM where the desert is is beautifully green from
all the rain.
Corinne Null on fri 12 jul 96
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sand the edges and soak them in Thompsons water seal for at least five
minutes, then hang them out to dry.
next time I go to make bats I'll try dipping them in polyurithane>
But PLEASE do NOT cover your whole bat with varnish/polyuritane or anything
else because then they will not stick to a clay patty, or your clay to the
bat! I have hardboard bats that are holding up just fine. I never use a
metal tool on them, and never try to lift clay off them from the edges.
(Also, didn't get holes drilled, as I thought it might cause earlier
disintigration of the product.) A friend got some and varnished them up real
pretty on both sides, but they won't stick to clay!
Corinne Null
Bedford, NH
cnull@mv.mv.com
Ron Pothier on sat 13 jul 96
Varnished, painted plaster and plastic bats all have their problems.
I've found hard masonite bats to the best all around. To apply them to the
wheel head make a donut of thrown clay, moist not soaking wet. Use at least 2
pounds of clay so that your fingers fit under the bat while taking them off.
center the bat and hit the center firmly, don't pound it. The bat must be dry
when applying it so if it comes off at first use another one. I find they
store easily, are cheap, last long and are easy on the fingers. The technique
is easy but takes a little practice. Good luck.
Ron/Montreal
rdowns on tue 16 jul 96
At 08:44 AM 7/12/96 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>But PLEASE do NOT cover your whole bat with varnish/polyuritane or anything
>else because then they will not stick to a clay patty, or your clay to the
>bat! I have hardboard bats that are holding up just fine. I never use a
>metal tool on them, and never try to lift clay off them from the edges.
>(Also, didn't get holes drilled, as I thought it might cause earlier
>disintigration of the product.) A friend got some and varnished them up real
>pretty on both sides, but they won't stick to clay!
>
>Corinne Null
>Bedford, NH
>
>cnull@mv.mv.com
>
Sorry Corinne,
I made my bats out of 3/4 inch particle board, drilled them on one side
only for the bat pins, and coated them with polyuritane over 6 years ago!
The clay sticks fine and the bats look like brand new! LIKE BRAND NEW!
Rose Downs
Dianna Rose Downs
in north central Texas
214-734-1329
'83 BMW R100RS
http://www.why.net/home/gdowns/terra.html
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