Lisa Skeen on fri 21 mar 97
I had a discussion today with my photography professor about the need
for information re: the business aspect of Art. This would include how
to make a resume, portfolio, how to deal w/ galleries, reps, and
marketing, etc. He suggested I go to professor X, who teaches painting,
and make this suggestion because professor X teaches how to make a
portfolio during part of his painting class.
I went to professor X with my suggestion. His response was that this
subject matter has no place in academia, because we are here to learn
technique, not how to sell our work, and art is not about money anyway.
Discouraging, no?
Lisa Skeen
Living Tree Pottery
Greensboro, NC
MUDPUPPY on sat 22 mar 97
Lisa Skeen wrote:
>I went to professor X with my suggestion. His response was that this
>subject matter has no place in academia, because we are here to learn
>technique, not how to sell our work, and art is not about money anyway.
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I am a student at UNC-Asheville (North Carolina, USA), and we have a
class in the art department called "Professional Practices". It covers
resumes, portfolios, mailing lists, artist's statement, and much more.
Pretty much anything you would need to send your stuff out.
I think "Professor X" is pretty silly. Why is is un-artistic to
present oneself and one's work in a professional way? And I don't
think it's about money, either. You have to provide this sort
of information if your work is only to be shown, and it is not a
sales venue.
This class is not offered in a trade school. This is a regular class
in the BFA program. I don't see what is so commercial about it.
So, pblth to Professor X.
Laurel Carey
p.s. Lisa, this class meets once a week for 3 hours, perhaps you could
take it here?
Candise Flippin on sat 22 mar 97
Discouraging, but not surprising. When I was working on my Bachelor's in
Nursing in 1969, I was told that undergraduate school would teach me how
to learn. I will say that they delivered on that promise. When I was
working on my Master's in Business in 1976, I was told that they would
teach me to determine what I needed to learn. They also delivered on
their promise. When I started to explore clay, I went to an Adult
Education Communitity College for an introduction. Once hooked I began
designing an educational path that I felt met my needs. Undergraduate
courses in Ceramics to learn technique, adult education classes to
practice, workshops to explore the creative process, learn the business
end of art, etc., Association of University Women Art Interest group for
art appreciation, design discussions and a wealth of information, ACCA
for incredible real world learning opportunities and networking, and the
Cultural Council of Santa Cruz for nuturing and support are just a few
of the things that make up my clay background. Am I self taught? No. Am
I an academically prepared artist? Not in the traditional sense.
I am far more interested in working with clay for art's sake than money,
but I do get hungry and like to sleep indoors (most of the time). I
would hope that Professor X's response would have been a little more
understanding of the reality that students face once out of school and at
least acknowledge the need for learning the business aspects of art even
if it is not included in college curriculums.
Creatively yours, Candise
Vince Pitelka on sun 23 mar 97
>Lisa Skeen wrote:
>>I went to professor X with my suggestion. His response was that this
>>subject matter has no place in academia, because we are here to learn
>>technique, not how to sell our work, and art is not about money anyway.
There are still some dinosaurs in academia who maintain this kind of
attitude. In fact there are a lot of them. But look at this way. They are
bound to dissappear, like the Shakers, who did not believe in procreation.
If academics do not teach their students the basic survival skills of the
studio and marketplace, they are in essence condemning their own progeny.
If they cannot recognize this fundamental reality, more's the shame. But
there are enough of us in academia who DO recognize the necessity of
practical knowledge and skills. We shall prevail. This is just one more
example of the kind of research a person must do before selecting a graduate
program. MAKE SURE that they do truly address YOUR needs.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Vince Pitelka on mon 24 mar 97
>This is just one more
>example of the kind of research a person must do before selecting a graduate
>program. MAKE SURE that they do truly address YOUR needs.
>- Vince
In re-reading my own post, I saw that I specified "graduate program," and of
course, a person should do this kind of research before applying to ANY art
program.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka - vpitelka@DeKalb.net
Phone - home 615/597-5376, work 615/597-6801
Appalachian Center for Crafts
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Peter and Sam Tomich on mon 24 mar 97
Does anyone on clayart teach this sort of course? I would like a
syllabus to show my profs. Thanks, Sam
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