debra ulland on thu 29 aug 96
I have been using black underglaze pencils for over 20 years . A few years
ago I noticed a big change. The ones on the market are made by
Hobbyceram-made in Italy . SOTTOSMALTO is written on the pencil also. The
"lead" is softer, and after sharpening to a point with either a pencil
sharpener or a knife the pencil lead and wood casing is very brittle. These
pencils are available everywhere-does anyone know what happened to the old
mfgr. and how to obtain those older pencils? thanks debbie ulland
Valice Raffi on sun 1 sep 96
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> black underglaze pencils A few years ago I noticed a big change. does
>>anyone know what happened to the old mfgr. and how to obtain those older
>pencils?
Debbie,
Yes, about 4 yrs ago or so, the old ones were taken off the market. I
believe the problem was the lead content. After about a year, these "new"
ones became available, but they're just not the same :(
Valice
Ann Hedgcock on tue 22 oct 96
Does anyone know if the "Chem Clay" underglaze pencils are still available?
(and where one might send for them if so) I know Amaco and several other
companies make somewhat softer (or darker) pencils, but I'm interested in
brands that seem to have a "harder, grayish" black pencil. Thanks! Ann
Hedgcock Freeport, Maine
logan johnson on mon 21 mar 05
Hi Dale,
Here's the recipe I've used ( weights are in grams):
Custer ..........25
ball clay........50
Silica............25
macaloid.......3
colorant........15 (maximum)
sodium silacate 1cc per 100 grams dry mix
fire between 1500-1700 degrees for pencils
For chalk, watercolor cakes or crayons do not fire .
No sodium silicate for crayons BUT mix dry ingred. with wax resist & form.
Remember: TEST, TEST, TEST!!!! I got this recipe from a book I'm sorry I don't remember the title of the book or who wrote it but, I've made the pencils & they worked great for me. Haven't tried the water colors, crayons or chalk.
Good Luck!
Jane Murray-Smith wrote:
somewhere there is a recipe for making your own and it did'n't look too
difficult...
recipes, anyone?
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Dale Neese on mon 21 mar 05
Does anyone know of where to purchase ceramic underglaze pencils different
than the "lead free" formulations currently available.
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas USA
Jane Murray-Smith on mon 21 mar 05
somewhere there is a recipe for making your own and it did'n't look too
difficult...
recipes, anyone?
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Subject: Underglaze pencils
> Does anyone know of where to purchase ceramic underglaze pencils different
> than the "lead free" formulations currently available.
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> Dale Tex
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> San Antonio, Texas USA
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Fredrick Paget on tue 22 mar 05
>Speaking of Underglaze pencils, does anyone have a reliable method for
>sharpening the Aamaco ones?
>
>-
For about five bucks at a good art store you can get a German hand
operated art pencil sharpener and it does a good job on Amaco
pencils. They have a razor sharp blade.
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From Fred Paget,
Marin County, CA, USA
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Charter Member Potters Council
Rod Wuetherick on tue 22 mar 05
Look in Robin Hoppers, "Ceramic Spectrum" you will find a recipe list to
make your own if you wish.
Peace,
Rod
> > Does anyone know of where to purchase ceramic underglaze pencils
different
> > than the "lead free" formulations currently available.
Susan Park on tue 22 mar 05
Speaking of Underglaze pencils, does anyone have a reliable method for
sharpening the Aamaco ones?
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Subject: Re: Underglaze pencils
Look in Robin Hoppers, "Ceramic Spectrum" you will find a recipe list to
make your own if you wish.
Peace,
Rod
> > Does anyone know of where to purchase ceramic underglaze pencils
different
> > than the "lead free" formulations currently available.
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Laurie on wed 23 mar 05
On Mar 22, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Susan Park wrote:
> Speaking of Underglaze pencils, does anyone have a reliable method for
> sharpening the Aamaco ones?
>
Hi Susan,
I have good luck using a regular old school-type pencil sharpener. The
crank type that hangs on a wall (or bookshelf or cabinet or table), has
several selectable pencil widths. Gives a nice sharp point and doesn't
appear to waste too much pencil. I got it for my Ebony and Eagle
drafting pencils years ago because I always liked the ones at school
and it stays nice and sharp. Doesn't chew up or break the Amaco
pencils.
Hope that helps.
Laurie
Sacramento, CA
http://rockyraku.com
Potters Council, charter member
Sacramento Potters Group, member
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