Harry Teichert on sat 26 jul 97
Hello Clayart. I'm a former lurker (Geneva, Illinois, USA) who has
signed back on because I need some advice about setting up a Venco pugmill
(3" de-airing model).
The plug, I see, is in the flat 3-prong configuration that's used in
Australia -- yet the guy who sold it to me (who is hard to get hold of) said
"All you have to do is plug it in!" Now I know this plug configuration is
used in the US for electric ranges, but they use a lot more amps than
the pug mill does. My question is, can I plug this into an electric range-
type outlet with no harm?
Also, the pugmill section is marked "50/60 Hz", but the vacuum
pump is only marked "50 Hz". 60 is the standard in the U.S. and 50 is the
standard in Australia, I believe, so will the vacuum pump be hurt if I plug
it in here?
Bonus questions: Where do you lubricate these things? The instruc-
ions talked about removing "plugs", but the only candidates for removal
that I see are 3 bolt-type-things that require an allen wrench (and are
on there REALLY tight). Are those the "plugs"?
The air filter is glass, so I assume I'm supposed to monitor it for
something, but what?
As you can tell, I've never used a Venco before. The schools
I attended had Peter Puggers, which are a lot simpler. If there are any
other tricks to using this thing I'd love to know about them before I
inadvertantly mess up my big, big investment.
Many thanks in advance! All you good, helpful folks helped inspire
me to take the plunge and set up my own studio, although now that I'm doing
it I don't have time to monitor the list much. Once I get into the
swing I hope to be able to return the favor with sage advice and cool
glaze recipes.
Anne Teichert teichert@mcs.com
Talbott on sun 27 jul 97
Anne...
I too have a Venco pugmill.. If you look at the pugmill's motor
plate it will give the motor's frequency, voltage and amp rating... you can
find the appropriate plug at almost any hardware store and then cut off the
existing European male plug and replace with the US plug... probably 240
volt and 15 or 20 amps... then just install the appropriate wiring and
female outlet to run the pugmill...
On the vacuum pump motor I just changed the existing European male plug to
a 120 volt, 15 or 20 amps, 60 Hz plug and.... plugged it in to the outlet
and it works... Howard Axner whom I purchased the pugmill from told me
that Venco told him that the vaccum pump motor was rewired to run on 60
Hz... and it does run BUT it does NOT sound exactly right and IF and WHEN
that motor burns up then I will definitely take issue with the "powers to
be" on not providing me with a TRUE 60 Hz vaccum pump motor.. Best Wishes
and Happy Pugging... Marshall
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello Clayart. I'm a former lurker (Geneva, Illinois, USA) who has
>signed back on because I need some advice about setting up a Venco pugmill
>(3" de-airing model).
> The plug, I see, is in the flat 3-prong configuration that's used in
>Australia -- yet the guy who sold it to me (who is hard to get hold of) said
>"All you have to do is plug it in!" Now I know this plug configuration is
>used in the US for electric ranges, but they use a lot more amps than
>the pug mill does. My question is, can I plug this into an electric range-
>type outlet with no harm?
> Also, the pugmill section is marked "50/60 Hz", but the vacuum
>pump is only marked "50 Hz". 60 is the standard in the U.S. and 50 is the
>standard in Australia, I believe, so will the vacuum pump be hurt if I plug
>it in here?
> Bonus questions: Where do you lubricate these things? The instruc-
>ions talked about removing "plugs", but the only candidates for removal
>that I see are 3 bolt-type-things that require an allen wrench (and are
>on there REALLY tight). Are those the "plugs"?
> The air filter is glass, so I assume I'm supposed to monitor it for
>something, but what?
> As you can tell, I've never used a Venco before. The schools
>I attended had Peter Puggers, which are a lot simpler. If there are any
>other tricks to using this thing I'd love to know about them before I
>inadvertantly mess up my big, big investment.
> Many thanks in advance! All you good, helpful folks helped inspire
>me to take the plunge and set up my own studio, although now that I'm doing
>it I don't have time to monitor the list much. Once I get into the
>swing I hope to be able to return the favor with sage advice and cool
>glaze recipes.
> Anne Teichert teichert@mcs.com
1ST ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1997)
http://fmc.utm.edu/~dmcbeth/cag/naples.htm
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Jean on sun 27 jul 97
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello Clayart. I'm a former lurker (Geneva, Illinois, USA) who has
>signed back on because I need some advice about setting up a Venco pugmill
>(3" de-airing model).
> The plug, I see, is in the flat 3-prong configuration that's used in
>Australia -- yet the guy who sold it to me (who is hard to get hold of) said
>"All you have to do is plug it in!" Now I know this plug configuration is
>used in the US for electric ranges, but they use a lot more amps than
>the pug mill does. My question is, can I plug this into an electric range-
>type outlet with no harm?
> Also, the pugmill section is marked "50/60 Hz", but the vacuum
>pump is only marked "50 Hz". 60 is the standard in the U.S. and 50 is the
>standard in Australia, I believe, so will the vacuum pump be hurt if I plug
>it in here?
> Bonus questions: Where do you lubricate these things? The instruc-
>ions talked about removing "plugs", but the only candidates for removal
>that I see are 3 bolt-type-things that require an allen wrench (and are
>on there REALLY tight). Are those the "plugs"?
> The air filter is glass, so I assume I'm supposed to monitor it for
>something, but what?
> As you can tell, I've never used a Venco before. The schools
>I attended had Peter Puggers, which are a lot simpler. If there are any
>other tricks to using this thing I'd love to know about them before I
>inadvertantly mess up my big, big investment.
> Many thanks in advance! All you good, helpful folks helped inspire
>me to take the plunge and set up my own studio, although now that I'm doing
>it I don't have time to monitor the list much. Once I get into the
>swing I hope to be able to return the favor with sage advice and cool
>glaze recipes.
> Anne Teichert teichert@mcs.com
Hello lurker. We have a 3" Venco deairing pugger. It plugs into a [220
receptracle] 30 amp circuit, which was origionally installed to accomodate
an electric kiln.The male plug on the pugger didn't match the female
receptacle in the wall, so we changed the receptacle. Works fine. The vac
pump plugs into an ordinary 110 v outlet. Also, no problem. This model has
a round oiler mounted on the barrel that rototes to inject the oil, nothing
else. There is really nothing that we monitor thru the clear vac cover
other than seeing the clay go through. We purchased the machine from
Axner,in Fla.During initial set-up and subsequent maint., we called their
800 phone and they were most helpful! Axner has e-mail at axner@att.com
Good luck! Hope this helps. Jean
Talbott on mon 28 jul 97
I think somebody should put a BUG into someones ear... When you pay $4000
for a pugmill you SHOULD NOT HAVE TO "SCREW" AROUND with the damn
electricals and worry about getting 60 Hz motors on your vacuum pump and
the correct plugs... Also the literature and owner's manual for the
Venco is very poorly done. Surely someone with some "pull" should contact
Venco and have them get their act together on these problems... However
the machine itself is great.. but these little things tend to p**s the
owners off... Marshall
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello Clayart. I'm a former lurker (Geneva, Illinois, USA) who has
>signed back on because I need some advice about setting up a Venco pugmill
>(3" de-airing model).
> The plug, I see, is in the flat 3-prong configuration that's used in
>Australia -- yet the guy who sold it to me (who is hard to get hold of) said
>"All you have to do is plug it in!" Now I know this plug configuration is
>used in the US for electric ranges, but they use a lot more amps than
>the pug mill does. My question is, can I plug this into an electric range-
>type outlet with no harm?
> Also, the pugmill section is marked "50/60 Hz", but the vacuum
>pump is only marked "50 Hz". 60 is the standard in the U.S. and 50 is the
>standard in Australia, I believe, so will the vacuum pump be hurt if I plug
>it in here?
1ST ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE (Summer 1997)
http://fmc.utm.edu/~dmcbeth/cag/naples.htm
Celia & Marshall Talbott, Pottery By Celia, Route 114, P O Box 4116,
Naples, Maine 04055-4116,(207)693-6100 voice and fax,(call first)
WBS Live Chat Room, Sat Nites 10 PM EDT, Private Room: Clayarters
E-MAIL: clupus@ime.net
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