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updated fri 25 jul 08

 

PHilferty@aol.com on sat 16 mar 96

I've assemble a web page, hopefully suitable for viewing. For those who wish
to see for themselves, the address is:

http://members.aol.com/PHilferty/www/ResumePage1.html

It's still under construction, and probably will be for some time to come. I
would be interested in hearing from those with web pages as to their
experiences.

Thanks,

Patrick Hilferty
philfert@aol.com

Clayton Bailey on wed 9 apr 97

Hey, Clayarters: Check out my web page at
http://www.roadtripamerica.com/people/bailey.html

John Rodgers on sun 3 jan 99

-- [ From: John Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

I am about to undergo a major career adjustment within the realm of clayart,
so considering all the help I have received at times in the past from so
many members on the list, and the sharing of their web sites with all of us,
I though I would share the one I have been working on for a while.

The web page was begun quite a while back, and my Alaska studio has since
been dismantled, but the work that was done is included so that what was
produced may be seen. My more recent efforts are included.

This site is to be removed from my current server the middle of January. It
won't be re-published until after it is updated significantly and I don't
have a time line for re-publishing yet.

Comments on the content and/or the page design are appreciated.

Go to it and enjoy!!

http://users.quicklink.net/~inua/index.html

BTW the John vs Jonothon thing is explained in the text.

John (Jonothon) Rodgers
In Alabama

Shelley Potter on tue 16 mar 99

Rafael,
-
I created my own web page for my art work. I did not get my own domain but
used the free space that is offered by my ISP. Most do offer
such space. After we took photos in our living room, I scanned them into
Photoshop on our Microtek Scanmaker E6. This scanner is now a couple of
years old so there are better ones out there now, but it did fine. I saved
all files at 600 dpi in photoshop for my own future use but in order to
upload to the internet I made separate files at 75 dpi because that's what
JPEG files need. I then transferred each image into Adobe PageMill to format
the pages. It helps to know some html code because I had to make some
corrections to the code where I had made mistakes. Code has to be exact or
the pictures won't upload onto the internet, but PageMill does most of that
work for you.
If you want to view my page it's at
http://members.home.net/bpotter/art/art.html Shelley Potter

Francoise Bazard on wed 29 sep 99

------------------
Dear Friends of Clayart =21
I have worked a lot and finished the translations (english and spanish)
of my web site, with some modifications of course. I hope you will not
find my english too horrible and I thank you in advance if you tell me
that I have done an enormous mistake =21
Best regards to all and good autumn =21
Fran=E7oise
--
Francoise Bazard 16, impasse de la Robertsau
mailto:francoise.bazard=40beaux-arts.com 67800 HOENHEIM - FRANCE
http://www.multimania.com/fbazard

Sheryl VanVleck-Wells on mon 20 dec 04


As I have mentioned, endlessly, I am yet again and still working on =
updating my homepage. I purchased Coffee Cup editor last year and am =
pretty happy with it. It's just that there are other things to do. I =
take credit cards so must then learn to encrypt my site or just do =
paypal. But, doing paypal encrypted means entering every item on =
paypal, copying the code and then pasting it on my page. This isn't too =
bad for my paintings. But, what a pain for pottery, where I am =
basically showing a sample of what the customer can buy. =20

Any ideas on how to handle this? =20

Sheryl in Nashville, IN shivering with cold this morning.
P.S. And, if there is someone out there who gets their web page done in =
one month, please
tell me how you did it. (what program, etc)

Michael Wendt on mon 20 dec 04


Sheryl,
I used Microsoft Front Page 2000. It took only a few days to build.
I started with sketches on paper, had the general plan worked out first and
then created a page master with place holders.
Once built, I altered, renamed and saved pages in small steps... make a
change, preview it and either leave it or rework it.
As I did, I wrote down the link and installed it on the button in the index
page.
At first, it was scary but it quickly became fun and easy.
As to credit cards, we now ask the customer to phone, fax or email their
information directly to avoid third party payments and the danger associated
with shopping carts.
I also found that the automatic shopping cart I had before often charged the
wrong shipping prices (surcharge delivery areas... etc.).
2000 has features like estimated download times at 28.8 modem speed so I
could try to keep my entry pages as fast loading as possible. Now people are
reporting slow speeds and difficulties accessing my site so I am going to do
a rework in January after Mendocino
Good Luck,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave
Lewiston, Idaho 83501
USA
wendtpot@lewiston.com
www.wendtpottery.com

Gary Harvey on mon 20 dec 04


There are web sites that allow you to build pages with their templates. They
include such things as credit cards, and online ordering. If you aren't
computer savvy especially HTML I recommend that you get a professional to do
it for you, that is if you don't use the ones above. The learning curve to
do it yourself is staggering. I know I tried. Gary Harvey Palestine TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wendt"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: web page


> Sheryl,
> I used Microsoft Front Page 2000. It took only a few days to build.
> I started with sketches on paper, had the general plan worked out first
and
> then created a page master with place holders.
> Once built, I altered, renamed and saved pages in small steps... make a
> change, preview it and either leave it or rework it.
> As I did, I wrote down the link and installed it on the button in the
index
> page.
> At first, it was scary but it quickly became fun and easy.
> As to credit cards, we now ask the customer to phone, fax or email their
> information directly to avoid third party payments and the danger
associated
> with shopping carts.
> I also found that the automatic shopping cart I had before often charged
the
> wrong shipping prices (surcharge delivery areas... etc.).
> 2000 has features like estimated download times at 28.8 modem speed so I
> could try to keep my entry pages as fast loading as possible. Now people
are
> reporting slow speeds and difficulties accessing my site so I am going to
do
> a rework in January after Mendocino
> Good Luck,
> Michael Wendt
> Wendt Pottery
> 2729 Clearwater Ave
> Lewiston, Idaho 83501
> USA
> wendtpot@lewiston.com
> www.wendtpottery.com
>
>
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Lee Love on tue 21 dec 04


Sheryl VanVleck-Wells wrote:

>Any ideas on how to handle this?
>
>
Sheryl. I never like giving my credit card number over the phone or
to a web page, so I find paying with PayPal reassuring. When you pay
with PayPal, the merchant never sees your credit card number, so it is
actually safer than a face to face credit
card transaction.

Here is what I thought I'd do for my next online sale:
(You need to make sure each item has a unique order number.) Have
folks email you, including the item number, to buy an item and then
just send them an invoice or request for money via PayPal. That way,
you don't have to put buttons on your web page.

Lee

--
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
http://www.livejournal.com/users/togeika/ WEB LOG
http://public.fotki.com/togeika/ Photos!

bill geisinger on tue 22 jul 08


Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self and
joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new web
page. http://billgeisinger.com

Years ago I worked on ceramic web pages, at the college had one of the first
bulletin boards about pottery. There truly is a lot of information. So much
that I gave up trying to keep pace with all the development and closed down
kilnman. I have now had the chance to see what is out in the world and with
the help of Michael Cole of colestudio
finally have my own web page and domain.

I suggest talking to Michael if you are interested in making a website or
bringing your web site into this century. It's pretty painless but you will
have to think about your work and what you want it to look like and make
some decisions about this.

bill geisinger
http://billgeisinger.com

Krista Peterson on wed 23 jul 08


I had absolutely no prob loading your site. I have high speed and fiber optic lines. Very slick with the fading in and out stuff. Fancy dancy!



----- Original Message ----
From: bill geisinger
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: web page

Ellen and Taylor,

Thanks for trying My server is having a problem! It has been loading in 12
seconds and maybe 25 on dial up. This is too slow it should load in 1-3
seconds. Sorry for your time Thank you for trying.

You have to have java scripts enabled and java enabled in your browser to
see the page because it uses flash. It will not load if these are not part
of your browser sorry.

bill in sebastopol

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Ellen Currans wrote:

> I too just tried to bring up your webpage and got nothing but the tan page
> with the black border. Way down at the bottom of my screen I read in very
> small print "cancelled the opening page." I tried it several times with the
> same result. I have a Mac with AOL.
>
>
>
> Ellen Currans
>
> Dundee, Oregon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Hendley
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:21 pm
> Subject: Re: web page
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill, your website takes way, way too long to load with my
>
> dial-up Internet. I've been waiting a good 3 or 4 minutes
>
> and still see nothing but a black border around a tan page.
>
>
> Of course, you may not care - I recently read that only 20%
>
> of Internet users still have a dial-up connection.
>
>
> Well, now it's been more than 5 minutes, and I'm giving up
>
> on seeing your work, sorry.
>
>
> David Hendley
>
> Maydelle, Texas
>
> david(at)farmpots(dot)com
>
> http://www.farmpots.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> > Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self
>
> > and
>
> > joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new
>
> > web
>
> > page. http://billgeisinger.com
>
>
>
>
>

Taylor Hendrix on wed 23 jul 08


I tried again at home with Charter, pc, and firefox. Loaded and looks
nice. Pots look nicer.

Tay

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> I have a pc and am using Firefox. It works fine, and the site looks great.
> Really nice design - clear, easy to navigate. The look of the site
> compliments the work quite nicely.
>
> Nice work too. Congrats!

Patti Petit on wed 23 jul 08


I opened the page with no problems this AM after Bill's first post. I have DSL which is sometimes peckish here in the NE GA mountains. The site downloaded quickly and navigates easily. Beautiful work too.
Patti

http://www.runningrabbitpottery.com

Jeanette Harris on wed 23 jul 08


>Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self and
>joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new web
>page. http://billgeisinger.com
>

Beautiful website, Bill. And lovely work.

The site appears to be 'all of one piece'--totally integrated support
design with the spirit and look of the work.

I personally love your matt pieces.

Two of the things I wanted to know when opening the galleries were:
How large is this piece?

And while looking at the slide show: How many more images are there here?
It took me a bit to catch on to the fact that the small numbers at
the left were the index of images. Maybe a sliding bar similar to a
download bar would clue dense-ettes like me as to how many more there
are to come and how many images were in each section.

I hope in the future you can add even more images to your site. A
pleasure to see!

Cheers,
Jeanette


--
http://jeanetteharrisblog.blogspot.com/

http://www.washingtonpotters.org/members/Jeanette_Harris/wpa_jeanette_harris.htm

http://www.sa-clayartists.org Click on Members, then H

Jeanette Harris
Washingzona

David Hendley on wed 23 jul 08


Bill, your website takes way, way too long to load with my
dial-up Internet. I've been waiting a good 3 or 4 minutes
and still see nothing but a black border around a tan page.

Of course, you may not care - I recently read that only 20%
of Internet users still have a dial-up connection.

Well, now it's been more than 5 minutes, and I'm giving up
on seeing your work, sorry.

David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com
http://www.farmpots.com



----- Original Message -----

> Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self
> and
> joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new
> web
> page. http://billgeisinger.com

bill geisinger on wed 23 jul 08


Hi Janette,

thanks for the look and I appreciate the feed back!

bill


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Jeanette Harris
wrote:

> Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self and
>> joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new
>> web
>> page. http://billgeisinger.com
>>
>>
> Beautiful website, Bill. And lovely work.
>
> The site appears to be 'all of one piece'--totally integrated support
> design with the spirit and look of the work.
>
> I personally love your matt pieces.
>
> Two of the things I wanted to know when opening the galleries were:
> How large is this piece?
>
> And while looking at the slide show: How many more images are there here?
> It took me a bit to catch on to the fact that the small numbers at
> the left were the index of images. Maybe a sliding bar similar to a
> download bar would clue dense-ettes like me as to how many more there
> are to come and how many images were in each section.
>
> I hope in the future you can add even more images to your site. A
> pleasure to see!
>
> Cheers,
> Jeanette
>
>
> --
> http://jeanetteharrisblog.blogspot.com/
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpotters.org/members/Jeanette_Harris/wpa_jeanette_harris.htm
>
> http://www.sa-clayartists.org Click on Members, then H
>
> Jeanette Harris
> Washingzona
>

Ellen Currans on wed 23 jul 08


I too =C2=A0just tried to bring up your webpage and got nothing but the tan=20=
page with the black border. =C2=A0Way down at the bottom of my screen I read=
in very small print "cancelled the opening page." =C2=A0I tried it several=20=
times with the same result. =C2=A0I have a Mac with AOL.



Ellen Currans

Dundee, Oregon


-----Original Message-----
From: David Hendley
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:21 pm
Subject: Re: web page







Bill, your website takes way, way too long to load with my=C2=A0

dial-up Internet. I've been waiting a good 3 or 4 minutes=C2=A0

and still see nothing but a black border around a tan page.=C2=A0
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Of course, you may not care - I recently read that only 20%=C2=A0

of Internet users still have a dial-up connection.=C2=A0
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Well, now it's been more than 5 minutes, and I'm giving up=C2=A0

on seeing your work, sorry.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

David Hendley=C2=A0

Maydelle, Texas=C2=A0

david(at)farmpots(dot)com=C2=A0

http://www.farmpots.com=C2=A0
=C2=A0

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----- Original Message -----=C2=A0
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> Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self=
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> and=C2=A0

> joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new=
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> web=C2=A0

> page. http://billgeisinger.com=C2=A0



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Taylor Hendrix on wed 23 jul 08


I think we may have overrun his website. I'm at work (ahem) and I
can't open up the page either. It will soon time out. Sigh.

Could be the storm in this area causing some slowdown of services.

Taylor, in Rockport TX, well north of the hurricane center but already
getting heavy rain bands in Corpus Christi. One serious tornado watch
had us pulling folks from the second floor for about 15 to 20 minutes.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:35 PM, bill geisinger wrote:
> Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self and
> joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new web
> page. http://billgeisinger.com
>
> Years ago I worked on ceramic web pages, at the college had one of the first
> bulletin boards about pottery. There truly is a lot of information. So much
> that I gave up trying to keep pace with all the development and closed down
> kilnman. I have now had the chance to see what is out in the world and with
> the help of Michael Cole of colestudio
> finally have my own web page and domain.
>
> I suggest talking to Michael if you are interested in making a website or
> bringing your web site into this century. It's pretty painless but you will
> have to think about your work and what you want it to look like and make
> some decisions about this.
>
> bill geisinger
> http://billgeisinger.com
>



--
Taylor, in Rockport TX
wirerabbit1 on Skype (-0500 UTC)
http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/

Steve Slatin on wed 23 jul 08


David, Bill -- I went to the site twice, and found
both times that the site froze during the initial
load. Each time, when I hit the refresh button
it loaded reasonably quickly. (I didn't time it
the first time, the second time it was about
15 seconds). Perhaps there is a problem, it's
probably worth looking into.

I'm on DSL; SpeedTest gives me 537 KB/S for
downloads.

Bill, there's some very nice stuff on the website.
I especially enjoyed the closeup of the storage
jar and the charger. And once it's loaded, it
is a very nice website.

Steve Slatin --




--- On Tue, 7/22/08, David Hendley wrote:

> From: David Hendley
> Subject: Re: web page
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 11:21 PM
> Bill, your website takes way, way too long to load with my
> dial-up Internet. I've been waiting a good 3 or 4
> minutes
> and still see nothing but a black border around a tan page.
>
> Of course, you may not care - I recently read that only 20%
> of Internet users still have a dial-up connection.
>
> Well, now it's been more than 5 minutes, and I'm
> giving up
> on seeing your work, sorry.
>
> David Hendley

Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 23 jul 08


I have a pc and am using Firefox. It works fine, and the site looks great.
Really nice design - clear, easy to navigate. The look of the site
compliments the work quite nicely.

Nice work too. Congrats!

Kathy Forer on wed 23 jul 08


Bill,

Your work is really nice. And the site is beautifully done.

There's been something like a deprecation of the embed tag for flash
in XHTML documents and even though your site is HTML 4.01
transitional, it's possible Adobe's non-standards-compliant method may
be causing problems with some browsers. Your guy's code is exactly
correct as per http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_4150
but those guidelines leave something to be desired.

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/activecontent/articles/devletter.html
explains why AC_RunActiveContent.js may need to be included because of
changes in Microsoft Internet Explorer browsers. But then there is a
note above saying the changes that were made were undone, and the link
to microsoft is broken, so it's hard to make sense of it. However,
flash satay methods, below, are much easier to handle, though I think
most developers just add the AC_RunActiveContent.js and leave it at
that.

For some newer and simpler methods of embedding flash and explanation
of the problems, see http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay and http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Embedding_flash
and http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/

Then again, it might just be network overloading as Taylor hypothesized.


Kathy Forer
www.kforer.com

Peggy Thompson on wed 23 jul 08


there were no ''buttons below'' on my sceen to view recent work.
Meg

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, bill geisinger wrote:

> Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self and
> joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new web
> page. http://billgeisinger.com
>
> Years ago I worked on ceramic web pages, at the college had one of the
> first
> bulletin boards about pottery. There truly is a lot of information. So much
> that I gave up trying to keep pace with all the development and closed down
> kilnman. I have now had the chance to see what is out in the world and with
> the help of Michael Cole of colestudio
> finally have my own web page and domain.
>
> I suggest talking to Michael if you are interested in making a website or
> bringing your web site into this century. It's pretty painless but you will
> have to think about your work and what you want it to look like and make
> some decisions about this.
>
> bill geisinger
> http://billgeisinger.com
>

Digital Studio on wed 23 jul 08


Unlike most people replying to this message, your site actually worked
for me. I have very fast internet and up-to-date Flash Player since my
website is also flash based. It loaded in about a minute. Your site
looks great!


bill geisinger wrote:
> Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self and
> joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new web
> page. http://billgeisinger.com
>
> Years ago I worked on ceramic web pages, at the college had one of the first
> bulletin boards about pottery. There truly is a lot of information. So much
> that I gave up trying to keep pace with all the development and closed down
> kilnman. I have now had the chance to see what is out in the world and with
> the help of Michael Cole of colestudio
> finally have my own web page and domain.
>
> I suggest talking to Michael if you are interested in making a website or
> bringing your web site into this century. It's pretty painless but you will
> have to think about your work and what you want it to look like and make
> some decisions about this.
>
> bill geisinger
> http://billgeisinger.com
>
>
>

Karin Givon on wed 23 jul 08


It does take a long time to dial up your site, because it's so huge,
but well worth it! And thanks to the person who twigged to the little
numbers (to see more pots) because I, being old and vague, didn't
notice 'em and did indeed want to see more! O those loverly reduction
fires!
Beautiful site.
penelope peeorplethorpe

bill geisinger on wed 23 jul 08


Ellen and Taylor,

Thanks for trying My server is having a problem! It has been loading in 12
seconds and maybe 25 on dial up. This is too slow it should load in 1-3
seconds. Sorry for your time Thank you for trying.

You have to have java scripts enabled and java enabled in your browser to
see the page because it uses flash. It will not load if these are not part
of your browser sorry.

bill in sebastopol

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Ellen Currans wrote:

> I too just tried to bring up your webpage and got nothing but the tan page
> with the black border. Way down at the bottom of my screen I read in very
> small print "cancelled the opening page." I tried it several times with the
> same result. I have a Mac with AOL.
>
>
>
> Ellen Currans
>
> Dundee, Oregon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Hendley
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:21 pm
> Subject: Re: web page
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill, your website takes way, way too long to load with my
>
> dial-up Internet. I've been waiting a good 3 or 4 minutes
>
> and still see nothing but a black border around a tan page.
>
>
> Of course, you may not care - I recently read that only 20%
>
> of Internet users still have a dial-up connection.
>
>
> Well, now it's been more than 5 minutes, and I'm giving up
>
> on seeing your work, sorry.
>
>
> David Hendley
>
> Maydelle, Texas
>
> david(at)farmpots(dot)com
>
> http://www.farmpots.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> > Well it's up and running. I have finally taken a small step for my self
>
> > and
>
> > joined the leap for mankind in the internet and selling my work. My new
>
> > web
>
> > page. http://billgeisinger.com
>
>
>
>
>

Kathy Forer on thu 24 jul 08


I just want to emphasize that Bill's web web designer knows just what
he's doing and is up to date as well as experimental in that way that
a technology like Flash needs to be. My technical criticism, as such,
was more a description of the outcome of my own mild technical Flash
adventures than a solid attempt to analyze someone else's possible
problem. Sometimes I think it can be better to get sideways advice
than no advice at all. Then again, bad advice can be harmful. Mine
was an attempt at sideways advice, "hey look at it this other way."
Then you look at it every which way and it comes down to something
extremely basic. Apparently complicated errors turn out to be simple.
Gridlock can come down to a blown street light fuse.

Also it was an attempt to relate and help me look at my own technical
problems more analytically. I've been looking at You-tube mold-making
videos all day -- lots to see! Hopefully my next few molds will be
better than the previous few.

> Your work is really nice. And the site is beautifully done.

Kathy Forer

Neon-Cat on thu 24 jul 08


Love the aesthetically pleasing forms and their wonderful natural-looking
surfaces and textures, Bill!
Your web page opened right up for my old computer and its on again-off again
mediocre DSL.
Thanks for sharing!

Marian
Neon-Cat Ceramics
www.neon-cat.com


> > web page. http://billgeisinger.com

Ric Swenson on fri 25 jul 08


Bill=2C
=20
Really enjoyed seeing your website! WELL DONE!.
=20
It took a few minutes to load here in China=2C but well worth the wait. I =
just went to the window and watched the herons and swallows for a few minut=
es and the site loaded.... and I saw your forms=2C textures=2C firing effec=
ts and kiln shots perfectly.
=20
Nice work.
=20
Regards=2C
=20
Ric
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