Patricia Everson on thu 17 apr 97
Hi All,
I know many of you clayarters have web pages and I would appreciate any
information or tips you may have about:
1 - getting pages posted
2 - charges, fees...how much does it cost
3 - how many pages may one post
I use America Online and know how to create pages...now what?
I am a student at Northern Kentucky University and am not only
interested for myself but for other students in ceramics class also. I
recently did a demo teaching them how to access art on the internet and
introducing them to clayart...they loved it!!! Everyone was so excited about
it and they had many, many questions. I take many of your postings back to
them for discussion and testing. When our new facility is complete in the
fall we will all have access and contribute more. It is so exciting!!!!!!
TIA,
PJEVE@aol.com
Marcia Selsor on thu 17 apr 97
We have Internet Montana which charges $15 fee for usage and $5 month
for 5 megabytes limit of a web site. As teachers we post interesting
sites with links for our students to refer to.
Marcia in Montana
Patricia Everson wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi All,
> I know many of you clayarters have web pages and I would appreciate any
> information or tips you may have about:
> 1 - getting pages posted
> 2 - charges, fees...how much does it cost
> 3 - how many pages may one post
--
Marcia Selsor
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/
mjbmls@imt.net
DAN JOHNSTON on tue 7 jul 98
I am considering setting up a WebPages, and would like the advice from
those of you who have already blazed this trail. What are some of the
pitfalls to beware of? What types of fees did you incur? Is there an
inexpensive way to work through the web? etc. etc. ANY HELP is GREATLY
appreciated.
If you have specific pointers that you'd like to send directly, please
contact us off the list serve at
danj@ldd.net
Jim Bozeman on wed 8 jul 98
Dan, A friend created a web page for me using simplenet, they're out of
San Diego, CA. Very affordable too. There is a one time set up fee of
$39.00 and then it only costs $12.00 a month (you have to buy at least 3
months worth). He scanned some of my photos and created the page for me.
Jim Bozeman
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FRANK GAYDOS on wed 8 jul 98
DAN JOHNSTON wrote:
>
> Please reply off list. Thanks!
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I am considering setting up a WebPages, and would like the advice from
.........
Dan,
Please allow me the opportunity to use the delete button if I find the
answers to your question boring, I'm very good at it. :>) I too am
interested in the answers to the questions you ask. After all, this
listserve is what its all about, you defeat the purpose if you reply 'on
the side.'
Off soapbox, thank you.
--
Frank Gaydos
510 Gerritt St.
Philadelphia,Pa.19147-5821 USA
fgaydos@erols.com
Chris Campbell on fri 10 jul 98
Hi - I have just gotten through months of researching this - I started in
January !!!
I have talked to ad agencies, net site designers, owners of computer design
stores, computer geeks...anyone who would talk to me for free or for money. My
findings to date( as of today only - things change so fast ) APPEARS to be
this:
Getting a lone web page and hoping someone will find it is kind of like asking
someone to randomly find one page in one book at the Main Branch of the New
York Public Library..it ain't gonna happen. People mean to look for a specific
thing - but then a neat site comes up and they follow it and go to another
site and before they know it two hours has passed and they get off and go to
bed.Try a search yourself - usually at least 1,000 sites come up as
possibilities. You too will be sucked in to following some and wasting hours.
You can use your site to display photos of your work, put on a great bio, or
to pull up an order form or price list.It will add to your credibility to have
a site and you can use it to let people who meet you see who you are and what
you do. It is great to use this way - just don't expect it to randomly
generate a lot of orders.
Now - what is popping up and I think might work better are group marketing
sites where a lot of gallery owners are recruited for free to see a site where
a lot of artists are paying to show their work. These sites are being
advertised in trade publications and could lure legitimate buyers.
This is just my opinion and is subject to change without notice
Chris - in Carolina
John H. Rodgers on sat 11 jul 98
-- [ From: John H. Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
Chris, you are right on about this. I belonged to a business list for a time
whose members were business people promoting their business primarily
through the internet, because they operate electronic services of various
kinds. In the various discussions, and comments by the moderator, it became
very clear that finding a single web site is like looking for a single
kernel of corn in a silo filled with corn kernels. From this group, and
from reading lots of material in magazines like Entrpenuer, Success, Fortune
, etc, and seeing the number of ads that have the companies web site
address listed, it became apparent that the way to get best use of the net
right now is to have a web page, but promote it through other means. Like
have your URL on your business card. Put it on your company checks. Put it
on your letter head. Send out a flier and include the url on the flyer.
Invite people to look it up. Use any means to tell people about your URL
other than expecting them to find it on the net by themselves. By pointing
the way, with your business card or what ever, you have started them on the
journey. If they have the address, and have any interest at all, they will
look it up. If your potential customer takes the time and effort to look up
your URL, you have a prequalified customer. And that is what virtually all
businesses want.
Trying to play the game of staying in front of the search engines and web
crawlers, and staying at the top of the heap on the net takes a lot of money
and virtually a fulltime staff member or two just to keep up with your web
site changes that are necessary to stay on top. It changes constantly.
Your money and effort are better spent elsewhere.
My 2 cents.
John Rodgers
-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------
Date: Friday, 10-Jul-98 10:18 AM
From: CCPottery \ America On-Line: (CCPottery)
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART \ Internet: (clayart@lsv.uky.
edu)
Subject: Web pages
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi - I have just gotten through months of researching this - I started in
January !!!
I have talked to ad agencies, net site designers, owners of computer design
stores, computer geeks...anyone who would talk to me for free or for money.
My findings to date( as of today only - things change so fast ) APPEARS to
be this:
Getting a lone web page and hoping someone will find it is kind of like
asking someone to randomly find one page in one book at the Main Branch of
the New York Public Library..it ain't gonna happen. People mean to look for
a specific thing - but then a neat site comes up and they follow it and go
to another site and before they know it two hours has passed and they get
off and go to bed.Try a search yourself - usually at least 1,000 sites come
up as possibilities. You too will be sucked in to following some and wasting
hours.
You can use your site to display photos of your work, put on a great bio, or
to pull up an order form or price list.It will add to your credibility to
have a site and you can use it to let people who meet you see who you are
and what you do. It is great to use this way - just don't expect it to
randomly generate a lot of orders.
Now - what is popping up and I think might work better are group marketing
sites where a lot of gallery owners are recruited for free to see a site
where a lot of artists are paying to show their work. These sites are being
advertised in trade publications and could lure legitimate buyers.
This is just my opinion and is subject to change without notice
Chris - in Carolina
-------- REPLY, End of original message --------
Steven Benezue on thu 23 jul 98
Some thoughts about inclusions on your web page...How about adding some bio on
some of the students. I would be interested in where other students are
comming from and what they bring into an art program. Also include some
history of the school and clay program.
D. McDysan on thu 23 jul 98
How about info on instructors and courses. Also a description of
facilities would be good such as kilns, equipment, etc. Maybe photos of
the lab and kiln area.
Debbie McDysan
dmcdysan@onramp.net
Randall Moody on thu 23 jul 98
> I am trying to build a web page for the ceramics department of the
>school I attend. What sort of things would you like to see on a page? A
>graduate and undergraduate student gallery are a must but short of that I
am
>not sure as to what to include. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>Randall Moody
>wmoody@siu.edu
>
Randall Moody on thu 23 jul 98
I am trying to build a web page for the ceramics department of the
school I attend. What sort of things would you like to see on a page? A
graduate and undergraduate student gallery are a must but short of that I am
not sure as to what to include. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Randall Moody
wmoody@siu.edu
amy parker on thu 23 jul 98
At 10:23 AM 7/23/98 -0500, you wrote:
> I am trying to build a web page for the ceramics department of the
>school I attend. What sort of things would you like to see on a page? A
>graduate and undergraduate student gallery are a must but short of that I am
>not sure as to what to include. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>Randall Moody
>wmoody@siu.edu
>
Of course you should include information about the school and its offerings -
schedules, prices, requirements for enrollment, etc.
amy parker Lithonia, GA
amyp@sd-software.com
Cleo Wolf on fri 24 jul 98
I couldn't access the Toledo Potter's Guild site, was the url correct?
Cleo
----------
> Try looking at our website (Toledo Potters Guild) just set up this week
at:
> http://mediccom.org/public/~tpg/index.htm It may give you some ideas.
K. Hurt on wed 25 aug 99
Does anyone ever get an order from a Web page?
Karin
Lori Lynn & Robert J on thu 26 aug 99
I did. I have had over 3,000 visits to my site, 36 requests for catalogs,
one wholesale inquire and one sizable order. It has been up and running
since mid June.
Lori Lynn
In the AZ desert, where the hot sun meets the cool Colorado.
Garden Imagery
www.stores.yahoo.com/gardenimagery
Tony Natsoulas on thu 26 aug 99
Karin,
I did not get an order, but I emailed a store my web address and they
have ordered every other month for a year now. I also got an email
yesterday asking about prices from my website. Tony
--- "K. Hurt" wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> Does anyone ever get an order from a Web page?
> Karin
>
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Tracey on fri 27 aug 99
I've had amazing feedback from our site already and it doesn't even go
"official" until Sept. 1st. People are hungry to find outlets for unique
items after too many visits to places that sell "ceramic" toucan sculptures
from China! lol
The only artist actually up and running on our site has sold a piece
already, and that with half the sites pages still "greeked"! Its a bit
overwhelming but it turns out that professional marketing and design really
pay off...
I can give pointers about advertising personal sites if anyone is
interested....
Enjoy!
Tracey Cave info@artifactgallery.com
Chicago, IL.
http://www.artifactgallery.com/
Your Craft Fair on the Internet..Visit us and inquire about exhibiting!
Send a blank email to: exhibit@artifactgallery.com to receive set-up
information immediately.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Natsoulas
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: Web Pages
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Karin,
> I did not get an order, but I emailed a store my web address and they
> have ordered every other month for a year now. I also got an email
> yesterday asking about prices from my website. Tony
>
> --- "K. Hurt" wrote:
> > ----------------------------Original
> > message----------------------------
> > Does anyone ever get an order from a Web page?
> > Karin
> >
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
>
John Rodgers on fri 27 aug 99
Karin, my own experienced view, and that of many of my business associates
and acquaintences, is that at this point in time, a web site is a valuable
marketing tool, but a secondary one, not a primary one. Though the situation
is improving, the cost of keeping ones site at the forefront of the search
engines on the web, is a very expensive proposition. It would take some
serious effort by pros ..which cost money... to keep making the necessary
ongoing changes in your web pages that cause the search engines to keep your
site in the forefront.
The way thousands of small businesses are getting around that problem, is
to advertise your web site in other media. In other words, create as many
contact points as possible outside of the web, and tell people about the
site so they can look it up. For a small operator, this works well.
How to do this? Well, make sure every single business card has your web
address and e-mail address on it. The same goes for your letterhead
stationary. Be sure it is on every flyer, or mailer, all literature you send
out. Be sure that at every show you go to you have it posted, like say "Come
visit me/us at www.qrv.com " or something like that. Provide the address,
then let folks look it up at their leisure. If you have a guest register at
shows, follow up with a reminder to look at your site. Put it in the paper
as a one liner. If you read Fortune, or Entrepeneur, IB, or any of the
business magazines, the ads in the magazines carry the web addresses
promanently displayed. Some magazines now have a listing in the back, which
lists only the company name and WWW address. Takes a little effort, but is
the cheaper way to go.
Talk to the WEBmaster at your ISP(internet service provider). They may be
able to make suggestions that can keep the costs down.
Having a web site will be a good thing for you. Just approach the marketing
of it right, and it will pay.
Good look with your endeavor.
John Rodgers
In New Mexico
"K. Hurt" wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Does anyone ever get an order from a Web page?
> Karin
David Hewitt on sat 28 aug 99
Karin,
Yes, for my glaze calculation software. But that is easy to send
electronically. I have not tried to sell my pottery on the web.
David
>> ----------------------------Original
>> message----------------------------
>> Does anyone ever get an order from a Web page?
>> Karin
>>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
>
--
David Hewitt
David Hewitt Pottery ,
7 Fairfield Road, Caerleon, Newport,
South Wales, NP18 3DQ, UK. Tel:- +44 (0) 1633 420647
FAX:- +44 (0) 870 1617274
Own Web site http://www.dhpot.demon.co.uk
IMC Web site http://digitalfire.com/education/people/hewitt.htm
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