C.C. Bookout on sun 8 apr 07
I have a studio on Long Island with four wheels, a pug mill, a 36 cu
foot gas fired kiln, a slab roller and all the tools you could wich
for for handbuilding and wheel throwing. What do you think a fair
price for use of these facilities by the month. How much should I
charge for clay and firing. I would be the only one tto fire the
kiln. Years ago we would measure the fired pieces as they came out
of the kiln and price it so much per cubic inch. I think there must
be an easier way, but if I do charge by the cubic inch what would be
the charge. I fire to cone 10 in reduction and would supply all the
glazes as well. This does not include instruction except as
incidental comment as we work side by side. If you know what the
charging practices are in our area let me know. Thanks.
C.C. on Eastern Long Island where it is a sunny but cold Easter
morning. I am waiting for the arrival of me kids for the holiday and
thougt I would fire off this question to the fabulous, generous
people of Clayart.
Eric Hansen on mon 9 apr 07
CC: These practices are becoming more and more common.
I was quoted a per cubic inch for cone 10 reduction
from Baltimore Clayworks, but it varies from kiln to
kiln. Also the tech fee for firing is added on and it
varies somewhat too.
I'm buying clay from Manassas and can have the firing
fee included in the clay purchase at a bargain. But it
is only for bisque or cone 6 gloss electric. Glazes
are not included, but I can use the glaze kitchen
(tables, scoops, Ohaus scales) to make my own at 12.00
per hour. Plus whatever the materials break down to.
Or I can buy glaze materials and measure and mix at
home. Its a different deal if I am in a class there or
am a member with open-studio priveleges.
At Georgies in Eugene, OR they gave me a reduction for
firing the whole kiln load. I only did bisque or 06
but they also did up to cone 6.
I don't see why the same breakout can't work for cone
10.
As far as tutoring someone thru the glazing process,
you might consider a tech fee, class instruction fee,
or a DVD as this will eventually get kind of old,
don't you think? Publish or perish as they say.
As far as renting out the whole studio, again,
schedule each expense to yourself, but try to figure
out what the market price is so you can both compete
reasonably and profitably, right?
Thrown Together Clay in Louisville, Santa Fe Clay,
etc. goes with the monthly membership system - I find
that such a system is usually too high, too low,
creates a waiting list, is not competitive, doesn't
grow with the market - and attracts people who figure
out to abuse the system. Cash on the barrelhead and
user fee solves those problems. Just my observations.
What is your per hour rate for using the wheel??
H A M
--- "C.C. Bookout" wrote:
> I have a studio on Long Island with four wheels, a
> pug mill, a 36 cu
> foot gas fired kiln, a slab roller and all the tools
> you could wich
> for for handbuilding and wheel throwing. What do
> you think a fair
> price for use of these facilities by the month. How
> much should I
> charge for clay and firing. I would be the only one
> tto fire the
> kiln. Years ago we would measure the fired pieces
> as they came out
> of the kiln and price it so much per cubic inch. I
> think there must
> be an easier way, but if I do charge by the cubic
> inch what would be
> the charge. I fire to cone 10 in reduction and
> would supply all the
> glazes as well. This does not include instruction
> except as
> incidental comment as we work side by side. If you
> know what the
> charging practices are in our area let me know.
> Thanks.
>
> C.C. on Eastern Long Island where it is a sunny but
> cold Easter
> morning. I am waiting for the arrival of me kids
> for the holiday and
> thougt I would fire off this question to the
> fabulous, generous
> people of Clayart.
>
>
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John Fulwood on mon 9 apr 07
Hi CC,
I have tried to figure that out for myself and it is not an easy thing to do. I looked at other studios that offer classes and/or studio space to get an idea of what others were charging. You can google search pottery classes and look at how they do it. You might get a ballpark idea about where you want to go.
I rent studio space to a former student. She has @ 200sq ft of space and her rent is 300.00/month. She uses her own clay and glazes and I charge her .03 per cubic inch for firing her work.
Hope this helps,
John
-----Original Message-----
>From: "C.C. Bookout"
>Sent: Apr 8, 2007 10:30 AM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: clay and firing charges
>
>I have a studio on Long Island with four wheels, a pug mill, a 36 cu
>foot gas fired kiln, a slab roller and all the tools you could wich
>for for handbuilding and wheel throwing. What do you think a fair
>price for use of these facilities by the month. How much should I
>charge for clay and firing. I would be the only one tto fire the
>kiln. Years ago we would measure the fired pieces as they came out
>of the kiln and price it so much per cubic inch. I think there must
>be an easier way, but if I do charge by the cubic inch what would be
>the charge. I fire to cone 10 in reduction and would supply all the
>glazes as well. This does not include instruction except as
>incidental comment as we work side by side. If you know what the
>charging practices are in our area let me know. Thanks.
>
>C.C. on Eastern Long Island where it is a sunny but cold Easter
>morning. I am waiting for the arrival of me kids for the holiday and
>thougt I would fire off this question to the fabulous, generous
>people of Clayart.
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
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John Fulwood
Kissimmee River Pottery
One 8th St. #11
Frenchtown, NJ. 08825
www.kissimmeeriverpottery.com
Bruce Glassford on tue 10 apr 07
Where I'm learning, Glen Echo Pottery, there's a $500 "continuing
potter" program that runs 16 weeks that allows use of the studio during
some classes and all open studio times. Firing costs are $2/pound for
pieces up to 10" in largest section, and $3/pound for larger, $1/pound
if you only bisque fire. House glazes are included. House clay is $7/bag.
Dirt cheap, in my opinion.
I've got a 1/2 share in a woodfire soon (my first... this should be fun)
- 18"x24" - $100 fee.
Hope that helps give you a data point.
.... Bruce
Eric Hansen wrote:
> CC: These practices are becoming more and more common.
> I was quoted a per cubic inch for cone 10 reduction
> from Baltimore Clayworks, but it varies from kiln to
> kiln. Also the tech fee for firing is added on and it
> varies somewhat too.
> --- "C.C. Bookout" wrote:
>
>> I have a studio on Long Island with four wheels, a
>> pug mill, a 36 cu
>> foot gas fired kiln, a slab roller and all the tools
>> you could wich
>> for for handbuilding and wheel throwing. What do
>> you think a fair
>> price for use of these facilities by the month. How
>> much should I
>> charge for clay and firing. I would be the only one
>> tto fire the
vanessa nelson on fri 13 apr 07
Well I have noticed that at most of the military bases that have craft
shops, they would charge 15cents to 25 cents per square inch to fire items
whether glazed or bisque. But some bases were even better then that when it
was bisque, they would charge for the biggest item and let one fire every
thing else for free. The pricing shuld really your choice, but if you would
have a frequent customer, after a certain amount of firing, hve one day
free! Just a thought! Vanessa
>From: Eric Hansen
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: [CLAYART] clay and firing charges
>Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 02:17:48 -0700
>
>CC: These practices are becoming more and more common.
>I was quoted a per cubic inch for cone 10 reduction
>from Baltimore Clayworks, but it varies from kiln to
>kiln. Also the tech fee for firing is added on and it
>varies somewhat too.
>
>I'm buying clay from Manassas and can have the firing
>fee included in the clay purchase at a bargain. But it
>is only for bisque or cone 6 gloss electric. Glazes
>are not included, but I can use the glaze kitchen
>(tables, scoops, Ohaus scales) to make my own at 12.00
>per hour. Plus whatever the materials break down to.
>Or I can buy glaze materials and measure and mix at
>home. Its a different deal if I am in a class there or
>am a member with open-studio priveleges.
>
>At Georgies in Eugene, OR they gave me a reduction for
>firing the whole kiln load. I only did bisque or 06
>but they also did up to cone 6.
>I don't see why the same breakout can't work for cone
>10.
>
>As far as tutoring someone thru the glazing process,
>you might consider a tech fee, class instruction fee,
>or a DVD as this will eventually get kind of old,
>don't you think? Publish or perish as they say.
>
>As far as renting out the whole studio, again,
>schedule each expense to yourself, but try to figure
>out what the market price is so you can both compete
>reasonably and profitably, right?
>
>Thrown Together Clay in Louisville, Santa Fe Clay,
>etc. goes with the monthly membership system - I find
>that such a system is usually too high, too low,
>creates a waiting list, is not competitive, doesn't
>grow with the market - and attracts people who figure
>out to abuse the system. Cash on the barrelhead and
>user fee solves those problems. Just my observations.
>
>What is your per hour rate for using the wheel??
>
>H A M
>
>
>--- "C.C. Bookout" wrote:
>
> > I have a studio on Long Island with four wheels, a
> > pug mill, a 36 cu
> > foot gas fired kiln, a slab roller and all the tools
> > you could wich
> > for for handbuilding and wheel throwing. What do
> > you think a fair
> > price for use of these facilities by the month. How
> > much should I
> > charge for clay and firing. I would be the only one
> > tto fire the
> > kiln. Years ago we would measure the fired pieces
> > as they came out
> > of the kiln and price it so much per cubic inch. I
> > think there must
> > be an easier way, but if I do charge by the cubic
> > inch what would be
> > the charge. I fire to cone 10 in reduction and
> > would supply all the
> > glazes as well. This does not include instruction
> > except as
> > incidental comment as we work side by side. If you
> > know what the
> > charging practices are in our area let me know.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > C.C. on Eastern Long Island where it is a sunny but
> > cold Easter
> > morning. I am waiting for the arrival of me kids
> > for the holiday and
> > thougt I would fire off this question to the
> > fabulous, generous
> > people of Clayart.
> >
> >
>______________________________________________________________________________
> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> > You may look at the archives for the list or change
> > your subscription
> > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be
> > reached at melpots@pclink.com.
> >
>
>
>
>
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