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Smith, Judy on thu 12 apr 07


I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last week. I think it
may have been built by someone on this list. The walls and roof of the
kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the kiln from any side. I
think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded fiber in the walls. Do
any of you know where I can see more details about this kiln? I find
the whole idea very intriguing.

=20

Thanks,

Judy Smith

Frank Colson on thu 12 apr 07


Judy- The "SUSPENSION DRUM KILN' is a simplified version of Hank Murrow's
"Top Hat" kiln you are inquiring about. I designed this kiln and had it
operaional in 1966 prior to
including it as Chapter 4 , in my book, "Kiln Building w/SpaceAge
Materials", published in 1975. Description, plans, diagrams, photos,
material list, etc. for this kiln ,is scheduled to be included in my
currently available "online" eBooks at www.R2D2u.com, where other kiln
plans, such as ROCKY RAKU, are presently available.





Although my book is presently out of print, it is
available in most major libraries in the country.

Frank Colson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Smith, Judy"
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: fiber kiln?


I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last week. I think it
may have been built by someone on this list. The walls and roof of the
kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the kiln from any side. I
think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded fiber in the walls. Do
any of you know where I can see more details about this kiln? I find
the whole idea very intriguing.



Thanks,

Judy Smith

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Hank Murrow on thu 12 apr 07


On Apr 12, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Smith, Judy wrote:

> I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last week. I think it
> may have been built by someone on this list. The walls and roof of
> the
> kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the kiln from any
> side. I
> think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded fiber in the
> walls. Do
> any of you know where I can see more details about this kiln? I find
> the whole idea very intriguing.

Dear Judy;

Often referred to 'down under' as a Top Hat kiln, I have been
building my own iteration of this idea since 1973. You can see an
article from Ceramics Monthly here if you scroll down past the Shino
article. I wrote both: http://www.ceramicsmonthly.org/mustreads/
shinofire.asp and here: http://www.murrow/biz/hank/kiln-and-
tools.htm I call my design the Doorless Fiberkiln.

There are several nice features of this design which I will be happy
to relate off-list.

Cheers, Hank
Hank Murrow
www.murrow.biz/hank

Angela Davis on thu 12 apr 07


Hi Judy, most of us can only dream of such
a kiln.

I supply them as standard on
my Doorless Fiberkiln (http://www.ceramicsmonthly.org/mustreads/
shinofire.asp scroll down to the kiln article.).
This was just posted by Hank Murrow, sounds like what you may have been
looking at.

Angela Davis in sunny Homosassa

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From: "Smith, Judy"
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: fiber kiln?


I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last week. I think it
may have been built by someone on this list. The walls and roof of the
kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the kiln from any side. I
think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded fiber in the walls. Do
any of you know where I can see more details about this kiln? I find
the whole idea very intriguing.



Thanks,

Judy Smith

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Andy Misner on fri 13 apr 07


Yes it is very possible. Most fiber is only good to 2,300=B0f (1,230=B0c) Th=
ere
are many ways to make them. You could use just folded blanket, Or you could
use what we call fiber modules. The Modules would be the easiest to
assemble. Just need some expaned metal and bolt the modules to the expanded
metal. then each wall can be moved and it shouldn't be very much weight. We
can make modules any size up to 48"

Andy Misner
www.indfirebrick.com


On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:36:04 -0500, Smith, Judy wrote:=


>I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last week. I think it
>may have been built by someone on this list. The walls and roof of the
>kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the kiln from any side. I
>think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded fiber in the walls. Do
>any of you know where I can see more details about this kiln? I find
>the whole idea very intriguing.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Judy Smith
>
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Hank Murrow on fri 13 apr 07


On Apr 13, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Andy Misner wrote:

> Yes it is very possible. Most fiber is only good to 2,300=B0f (1,230=B0=20=

> c) There
> are many ways to make them. You could use just folded blanket, Or =20
> you could
> use what we call fiber modules. The Modules would be the easiest to
> assemble. Just need some expaned metal and bolt the modules to the =20
> expanded
> metal. then each wall can be moved and it shouldn't be very much =20
> weight. We
> can make modules any size up to 48"
>
> Andy Misner
> www.indfirebrick.com

The kiln she was referring to is the Doorless Fiberkiln. I use 2600 F =20=

blanket and experience 1% shrinkage at cone 10_11. The 8# density =20
blanket is folded and compressed to 12# density for maximum =20
insulation. The bottom of the kiln is sealed with high temp silicone =20
rubber gasket, and all seams are sealed with high temp silicone, so =20
the kiln would be airtight save for the flue and the burner ports. =20
The one I installed at the Shadbolt Centre for the Arts in Canada =20
went 1052 fires before maintenance, so the configuration works well =20
in service to cone 10_11 reduction or oxidation.

Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:36:04 -0500, Smith, Judy =20
> wrote:
>
>> I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last week. I =20
>> think it
>> may have been built by someone on this list. The walls and roof =20
>> of the
>> kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the kiln from any =20
>> side. I
>> think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded fiber in the =20
>> walls. Do
>> any of you know where I can see more details about this kiln? I find
>> the whole idea very intriguing.

Eric Hansen on fri 13 apr 07


Judy That sounds like a Hank Murrow kiln - you can see
more about it at his web site.
http://www.murrow.biz/hank/kiln-and-tools.htm

-H A M B O N E
americanpotter.blogspot.com


--- "Smith, Judy" wrote:

> I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last
> week. I think it
> may have been built by someone on this list. The
> walls and roof of the
> kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the
> kiln from any side. I
> think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded
> fiber in the walls. Do
> any of you know where I can see more details about
> this kiln? I find
> the whole idea very intriguing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Judy Smith
>
>
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Smith, Judy on fri 13 apr 07


Thanks for the reply. I did find it on his web site. I would love to
have this. Something to dream about and save for.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Eric Hansen
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:10 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: fiber kiln?

Judy That sounds like a Hank Murrow kiln - you can see
more about it at his web site.
http://www.murrow.biz/hank/kiln-and-tools.htm

-H A M B O N E
americanpotter.blogspot.com


--- "Smith, Judy" wrote:

> I was looking at someone's kiln on the Internet last
> week. I think it
> may have been built by someone on this list. The
> walls and roof of the
> kiln lifted up and made it very easy to load the
> kiln from any side. I
> think this was some kind of gas kiln with folded
> fiber in the walls. Do
> any of you know where I can see more details about
> this kiln? I find
> the whole idea very intriguing.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Judy Smith
>
>
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