Cindy Gatto on wed 18 apr 07
Lili,
You could use bondo or epoxy putty. Both work well you'll want to build it
up a little higher than the chip then sand it down and then paint it to match.
I have done several restorations like this. Bondo is softer to work with, the
epoxy putty is stiffer and has a texture similar to clay both will stick
right to the piece. I did a restoration on a pre-columbian burial vessel from
610 ad A big piece of the rim was missing, I made a wall with the epoxy putty
first then covered it the bondo then sanded it down to match the rim. If I
remember correctly the bondo dries lighter. I also remember someone on this
list mentioning a web site for colored epoxy putty.I personally wouldn't go the
route of firing anything because of the shrinkage issues. good luck
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Lili Krakowski on wed 18 apr 07
A friend owns a piece of sculpture --I think a saint or Madonna--that has
great sentimental value. It is one of those pieces bought as greenware by a
person who then glazed or painted it, and had it fired. Very popular some
years ago, now all gone.
I have never seen the piece but it apparently got chipped, and I was asked
could I fix it.
I asked someone around here who had done these "ceramics" who said she
doubted plaster would work. My current idea is to dry some of that slip
(which I can get from aforesaid person) pulverize it, fire it to c.04, then
mix it with white glue, or with sodium silicate, and use that mix to patch.
Does anyone have any advice, experience, knowledge or similar?
Thanks.
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
Mike Gordon on wed 18 apr 07
On Apr 18, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Lili Krakowski wrote:
> A friend owns a piece of sculpture --I think a saint or Madonna--that
> has
> great sentimental value. It is one of those pieces bought as
> greenware by a
> person who then glazed or painted it, and had it fired. Very popular
> some
> years ago, now all gone.
> Lili,
There is an Epoxy Putty, comes in two parts that are mixed with your
fingers, it can then be molded, sanded and painted. Mike Gordon
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Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on wed 18 apr 07
On Apr 18, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Lili Krakowski wrote:
> A friend owns a piece of sculpture --I think a saint or Madonna--
> that has
> great sentimental value. It is one of those pieces bought as
> greenware by a
> person who then glazed or painted it, and had it fired. Very
> popular some
> years ago, now all gone.
> I have never seen the piece but it apparently got chipped, and I
> was asked
> could I fix it.
> I asked someone around here who had done these "ceramics" who said she
> doubted plaster would work. My current idea is to dry some of that
> slip
> (which I can get from aforesaid person) pulverize it, fire it to c.
> 04, then
> mix it with white glue, or with sodium silicate, and use that mix
> to patch.
>
> Does anyone have any advice, experience, knowledge or similar?
Hi Lili,
Consider using white epoxy. Most well-stocked hardware supply stores
should have it (it's a 2-part paste and takes overnight to cure).
After it cures you can paint it using hobby enamels, like for model
cars, or nail polish. You could also try the oven-cured paints, but
I'd test it in the oven on something I don't care about before
putting it on the piece.
Lynn
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
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Susan Fox Hirschmann on wed 18 apr 07
I have repaired sculptures....and honestly, I think, you are doing a bit too
much work to repair it.
The way I do it: use a silicon adhesive to fill in the gaps....as they dry,
smooth them to form the shapes you need to complete the empty areas. After at
least 24 hours, Paint the area with acrylics, mixed to match. I have done
this on many things and it seems to work and creates the closest to new
sculpture that you can fix, I think.
I have also used epoxy putty to repair broken off parts, then painted over
that.
Good luck!
Susan
Annandale, VA
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liz gowen on wed 18 apr 07
There is a product called milliput, found mine at a hobby supply shop. =
It is
a 2 part product that is mixed like epoxy but dries white like =
porcelain.
You can roll it and fill in a chipped area without a problem. A china
painting teacher I had in Colo. used to do repairs of broken pieces and =
used
this. She would then paint to match with china paint for color and I =
think a
thickened turp which I can't remember the name of at the moment. This =
was
NOT fired on so would need to be something that would dry hard. Luck
Liz Gowen
Subject: Help plea e repairing a "ceramic" object
A friend owns a piece of sculpture --I think a saint or Madonna--that =
has
great sentimental value. It is one of those pieces bought as greenware =
by a
person who then glazed or painted it, and had it fired. Very popular =
some
years ago, now all gone.
Dinah Steveni on thu 19 apr 07
Use the milliput, it sands well with water. But before placing the
flattened piece of milliput into the area, lay some glue like a model makers
variety (well-vented room) -- you say it's probably an earthenware body then
don't use a two tube epoxy (best for stoneware or porcelain) or super glue
ditto. Take a needle and tease out a thin filament on glue to lay on the
edge of the pot then place the milliput in. Let it set. Have some acetone
ready to quickly wipe away any overspill of glue. But less is more with
glue in this circumstance. The model maker's enamels can be mixed to match
the glaze and carefully brushed or even better airbrushed and will mask the
milliput, but be advised in about 8-10 years the milliput will yellow and
discolor the paint surface. Some people just are happy with a "museum
repair" where the repair is obvious, but some owner's want what I call a
sentimental repair where it looks like it did before the gods laughed. In
another life I did ceramic restoration.
Dinah Steveni
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lili Krakowski"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: Help plea e repairing a "ceramic" object
> A friend owns a piece of sculpture --I think a saint or Madonna--that has
> great sentimental value. It is one of those pieces bought as greenware by
a
> person who then glazed or painted it, and had it fired. Very popular some
> years ago, now all gone.
>
> I have never seen the piece but it apparently got chipped, and I was asked
> could I fix it.
>
> I asked someone around here who had done these "ceramics" who said she
> doubted plaster would work. My current idea is to dry some of that slip
> (which I can get from aforesaid person) pulverize it, fire it to c.04,
then
> mix it with white glue, or with sodium silicate, and use that mix to
patch.
>
> Does anyone have any advice, experience, knowledge or similar?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Lili Krakowski
> Be of good courage
>
>
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William & Susan Schran User on thu 19 apr 07
On 4/18/07 5:12 PM, "liz gowen" wrote:
> There is a product called milliput, found mine at a hobby supply shop. It is
> a 2 part product that is mixed like epoxy but dries white like porcelain.
I recently used this to repair a small sculptural form for my college
president.
It was a round earthenware form brought back from a trip to South America,
accidentally dropped and broken in many pieces. I used the milliput to
reassemble and fill in small voids where pieces were missing. I then mixed a
transparent color with acrylic paint to match the surface patina color.
The president was very pleased, but didn't offer to pay for the repair (I
wouldn't have accepted payment anyway).
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wschran@nvcc.edu
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Russel Fouts on thu 19 apr 07
Lily,
>> A friend owns a piece of sculpture --I think a saint or
Madonna--that has great sentimental value. I have never seen the
piece but it apparently got chipped, and I was asked
could I fix it. <<
A friend of mine here who is a professional ceramic restorer would
use 2 part epoxy thickened with talc to 'taste'. You can model it
into any shape you want.
Then just paint it to match when it's set up. You can use quick or
slow set epoxy.
It's a restoration/repair. Stop thinking about ceramic processes. His
processes are all cold processes.
I know several people in this profession. Bob knows about ceramic
processes because he used to be a potter but Didier-Louis never was
and doesn't know a thing. Both are excellent restorers.
Russel
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Lee Love on thu 19 apr 07
On 4/19/07, Mike Gordon wrote:
> There is an Epoxy Putty, comes in two parts that are mixed with your
> fingers, it can then be molded, sanded and painted. Mike Gordon
I have used epoxy ribbon to repair pots. It comes in green and
yellow ribbons that you mix and it turns blue. You can even add a
little clay or sand for texture, or, you can put gold on the crack so
as not to hide the repair. For something nonfunctional, you can
put some rub & buff gold in the crack.
Traditional repair in Japan uses lacquer and gold powder.
--
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Bonnie Staffel on sun 22 apr 07
Lili,
I hope that I am not too late in answering this question as I am behind in
reading Clayart these days.
I use the Epoxy Putty made by East Valley Supply. This can be modeled to
fit the missing piece, colored with the color kit they have so that you can
blend colors to pretty much match what you are repairing. It is very easy
to work with and have been using this material ever since it emerged as a
repair material. It is also relatively inexpensive as well.
I do not have any monetary interest in this material, blah, blah, etc. I
just love it.
Bonnie
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