Smith, Judy on sat 21 apr 07
I have been offered a B23 Cress kiln. I have not seen the kiln, but he
says the kiln was in excellent condition. I think this kiln fires to
cone 6 and I use cone 6 clay and glazes. He originally asked $350, but
now he is desperate to get rid of it and wants to deal. If the kiln is
in great working order, is this a good deal? Will a kiln rated at cone
6 really fire to cone 6? Currently I do not have a kiln. My pottery
school fires all my pieces, but this limits my testing and time
available. Any advice would be appreciated.
=20
Thanks,
Judy Smith
Dinah Steveni on sat 21 apr 07
Welp, if the kiln is near by, take some bisque stuff over and fire it in the
kiln. Get a Motel 6 and wait the firing out. The price will offset any
silly nonsense from the firing if it's a bust. Bring some orton cones to
stuff into the kiln etc at various levels to gauge the heat work. If not
caveat emptor (buyer beware). Take along someone who's got a clue regarding
electrics, wiring and so forth, just like you'd do with a used car, eh? Or
do some research yourself as to what to look for on the kiln wiring, wires
pooching out of the wall slots, discoloration on the wiring, take along an
ammeter (?) something to test the current running through the kiln. I can't
think of how you could hold the seller to his word unless you both were
prepared to draw up a contract tighter than a duck's proverbial back side. A
used kiln purchase is an act of faith. If you are able to buy cheap then
renovating it if a dealership is nearby won't cost the earth. But if you are
in an isolated area where shipping and travel costs are dear, then I think
you should really rethink this purchase.
I'm sure there will be several takes on your dilemma with very sound advice
with far more detail and technical advice than I've put forward. We've all
been in this position. It's a bugger.
Dinah Steveni
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From: "Smith, Judy"
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Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:57 AM
Subject: Is this a good deal on a kiln?
I have been offered a B23 Cress kiln. I have not seen the kiln, but he
says the kiln was in excellent condition. I think this kiln fires to
cone 6 and I use cone 6 clay and glazes. He originally asked $350, but
now he is desperate to get rid of it and wants to deal. If the kiln is
in great working order, is this a good deal? Will a kiln rated at cone
6 really fire to cone 6? Currently I do not have a kiln. My pottery
school fires all my pieces, but this limits my testing and time
available. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Judy Smith
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Cindy Gatto on sat 21 apr 07
Judy,
If it is in good shape meaning if the soft brick is in good shape go for it.
Cress makes good kilns This one is 17.5" wide x22.5 deep Unless you work big
it is a great starter size. If you bought it new it would be about $1000. If
It was my opportunity I would take it
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Smith, Judy on sun 22 apr 07
I have been offered a B23 Cress kiln. I have not seen the kiln, but he
says the kiln was in excellent condition. I think this kiln fires to
cone 6 and I use cone 6 clay and glazes. He originally asked $350, but
now he is desperate to get rid of it and wants to deal. If the kiln is
in great working order, is this a good deal? Will a kiln rated at cone
6 really fire to cone 6? Currently I do not have a kiln. My pottery
school fires all my pieces, but this limits my testing and time
available. Any advice would be appreciated.
=20
Is there some reason that my message is not showing up on the list. I
really need an answer soon before this kiln offer expires.
=20
Thanks,
Judy Smith
Helen Bates on sun 22 apr 07
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:35:01 -0500, Smith, Judy wrote:
(... )
>Is there some reason that my message is not showing up on the list. I
>really need an answer soon before this kiln offer expires.
Judy, I am reading your message via the Clayart web archives.
the default is that you yourself will not normally see your own posts if you
receive the posts in your e-mail inbox. You'll have to send a command to the
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ReynolPE on sun 22 apr 07
Judy,
I had the same chance about 7 months ago and I bought the Cress
B23 electric kiln. I have loved this kiln it has worked great. I
have fired it several times with the latest being just yesterday. It
is working great. So if you can still buy it I would not hesitate.
Phil Reynolds
http://reynolpe.googlepages.com
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, "Smith, Judy" wrote:
>
> I have been offered a B23 Cress kiln. I have not seen the kiln, but he
> says the kiln was in excellent condition. I think this kiln fires to
> cone 6 and I use cone 6 clay and glazes. He originally asked $350, but
> now he is desperate to get rid of it and wants to deal. If the kiln is
> in great working order, is this a good deal? Will a kiln rated at cone
> 6 really fire to cone 6? Currently I do not have a kiln. My pottery
> school fires all my pieces, but this limits my testing and time
> available. Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Judy Smith
>
>
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Smith, Judy on mon 23 apr 07
Does a kiln that is rated up to cone 6 really fire at cone 6 or do I
need a kiln that is rated higher than this to be able to fire my cone 6
glazes?
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of ReynolPE
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:11 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Is this a good deal on a kiln?
Judy,
I had the same chance about 7 months ago and I bought the Cress
B23 electric kiln. I have loved this kiln it has worked great. I
have fired it several times with the latest being just yesterday. It
is working great. So if you can still buy it I would not hesitate.
Phil Reynolds
http://reynolpe.googlepages.com
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, "Smith, Judy" wrote:
>
> I have been offered a B23 Cress kiln. I have not seen the kiln, but
he
> says the kiln was in excellent condition. I think this kiln fires to
> cone 6 and I use cone 6 clay and glazes. He originally asked $350,
but
> now he is desperate to get rid of it and wants to deal. If the kiln
is
> in great working order, is this a good deal? Will a kiln rated at
cone
> 6 really fire to cone 6? Currently I do not have a kiln. My pottery
> school fires all my pieces, but this limits my testing and time
> available. Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Judy Smith
>
>
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beardiepaw on mon 23 apr 07
Judy, I have that kiln, I bought mine years ago for 600 plus furniture, =
cones, and stilts. I used mine for a long time before I bought a big one=
=2E I still use it for small loads and bisque, and yes, it went to cone =
6. I think it may be needing new elements but that comes with the territ=
ory, good luck, Sher Morrow=20
Arnold Howard on mon 23 apr 07
From: "Smith, Judy"
Does a kiln that is rated up to cone 6 really fire at cone 6
or do I
need a kiln that is rated higher than this to be able to
fire my cone 6 glazes?
-----------------
From my experience, an 8-sided, 3 cubic foot, 240 volt kiln
needs 3" firebrick walls (not 2 1/2") and 30 amps of power
to consistently fire to cone 6.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
Anne Doyle on wed 25 apr 07
Hi Judy,
this may not be the information you were asking for but i think its worth
considering. I know there are several very well liked cone 5 clays out
there (Bmix5 for example) and for these some places like Clayscapes pottery
in Syracuse have designed a whole series of cone 5 glazes (in fact i
suggested they write a book, MC5G!) for ^5 users...
So, basically if the kiln was designed for ^6, and its for sale for a
decent price, find yourself a good "Kiln-person" in your area, get the kiln
and invest in whatever it needs to be up to scratch or switch to ^5... Both
can be good options, in my totally newbie opinion, both worthwhile, cause
you can make a lot with clay without a wheel but not much good without a
kiln!...
Good Luck!
Anne, in Saint-Sauveur, where the river that magically appeared in our
backyard 2 days ago and was threatening to wash away the rose bushes, has
disappeared... and with more seasonal temps we should be in for a lovely
end to the snow anytime soon, ( although the 22 degree C sunny days were a
very encouraging taste of summer: Summer Without BUGS!! for 4 days....
Woohoo!)
Smith, Judy on thu 26 apr 07
Thanks for the advice. I bought the kiln. It was in great shape. All
the coils heated up and the bricks are in excellent condition. It also
came with some shelves. All it needs is a new stand and those are
cheap.
Judy Smith
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Anne Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:05 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Is this a good deal on a kiln?
Hi Judy,
this may not be the information you were asking for but i think its
worth
considering. I know there are several very well liked cone 5 clays out
there (Bmix5 for example) and for these some places like Clayscapes
pottery
in Syracuse have designed a whole series of cone 5 glazes (in fact i
suggested they write a book, MC5G!) for ^5 users...
So, basically if the kiln was designed for ^6, and its for sale for a
decent price, find yourself a good "Kiln-person" in your area, get the
kiln
and invest in whatever it needs to be up to scratch or switch to ^5...
Both
can be good options, in my totally newbie opinion, both worthwhile,
cause
you can make a lot with clay without a wheel but not much good without a
kiln!...
Good Luck!
Anne, in Saint-Sauveur, where the river that magically appeared in our
backyard 2 days ago and was threatening to wash away the rose bushes,
has
disappeared... and with more seasonal temps we should be in for a lovely
end to the snow anytime soon, ( although the 22 degree C sunny days were
a
very encouraging taste of summer: Summer Without BUGS!! for 4 days....
Woohoo!)
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