Claudia MacPhee on mon 23 apr 07
Hi All, A friend of mine who has a dog/cat cremating business has given me some dog bones. Has anyone made their own bone ash? They feel pretty crumbly. What mesh should they be crushed to? I have a metal mortar/pestle for geological testing that should do the trick for crushing. Be good to add another local product for glazes. Thanks in advance,
Claudia MacPhee, Tagish, Yukon, where the first cruise ship arrives 7 May and I am not ready (lots of late night coming up).
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Charles Hightower on tue 24 apr 07
A friend of mine works at a funeral home. He can get me some quality human
ash. Primo stuff. He will have to sneek it out though and replace it with
something. Maybe Sparky the household pets ashes. Want to trade?
David Beumee on tue 24 apr 07
The gift of dog bones won't be much use for glazes until they are calcined, although there is some indication from your message that calcining has occured. Usually cremated pet or human remains appear as more or less fine bone ash, an important source of phosphorus, which, along with wood ash, may be key to finding the very rare chun (or jun) opalescent blue glaze in reduction at cone 10. Very fine screening or ball milling the bone ash may not necessarily be the best choice. My experiments are beginning to indicate that coarser screening may be an option. In any case, I have read that real bone ash rots out eventually in the bucket, so many potters use tricalcium phosphate, a synthetic product related to bone ash. This product is supposedly insoluble if you use cold water to mix your glaze. As for now, my tests are indicating that small percentages of real bone ash, one to one and a half percent, added to a cone 10 copper red glaze, add a very beautiful bluish/purple cast to the r
ed color.
David Beumee
Lafayette, CO
Porcelain by David Beumee
www.davidbeumee.com
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Lee Love on tue 24 apr 07
On 4/24/07, Claudia MacPhee wrote:
> Hi All, A friend of mine who has a dog/cat cremating business has given me
> some dog bones.
Claudia, what usually happens to the remains?
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Ann Brink on tue 24 apr 07
SHAME ON HIM AND SHAME ON YOU, if you are not putting us on.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
>A friend of mine works at a funeral home. He can get me some quality human
> ash. Primo stuff. He will have to sneek it out though and replace it with
> something. Maybe Sparky the household pets ashes. Want to trade?
>
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Claudia MacPhee on tue 24 apr 07
Usually the remains are taken away by the pet owners. I actually have a thriving new trade supplying pit-fired pet urns. I am also starting to make them for people. All the dogs that are put down by the vets (with drugs) go to the landfills.....however in the next while there will be some laws about this. My friends business should boom. Out where we live most of the dead animals go out in the bush to get back in the food chain. Bears, wolves, coyotes and foxes clean them up. Only 30,000 people in over 200,000 sq miles (24,000 in one town) so lots of open space.
And yes, these bones have already been thru the cremator. Also the bones don't get that burnt, they have to go thru a grinder. So when you see the bag of ashes they have already been ground, that is why they are so fine.
Not sure what the story is on the bones I got. They hope to get the contract from the city of Whitehorse pound. Maybe that is where it came from. I am pretty sure that I will soon be getting customers that will want the ashes made into glazes, or else fired into the pots. Good news that bigger pieces will be more interesting. Thanks,
Claudia MacPhee, Tagish, Yukon where we can actually see ground and the snow should soon be totally gone...hooray
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Robert Seele on wed 25 apr 07
Leigh Whitaker wrote:
> I actually think that it would be pretty cool to have my ashes made
> into a
> glaze. I could be on the outside of the urn instead of in it. LOL.
or you could have your ashes used for the glaze on the urn,
have the dogs ashes put into the urn,
and it could be kept on top of the kiln ( as a kiln god )
> Of course you wouldn't want to just go around randomly
> collecting people bones to do
> that, you'd want to have their permission.
don't ask the dead people for permission, instead ask if they have
any objections
bob
>
> Leigh
Charles Hightower on wed 25 apr 07
Just joking about the human bone ash. I was actually shocked by the idea of
using bone ash from pets. I suppose it is better then the animal going into
a landfill. Poetic in a way. I would say use my bones when I go however I
plan on being flash frozen and buried in the Himalayas.
Leigh Whitaker on wed 25 apr 07
In a message dated 4/25/2007 8:03:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
charlie@HIGHTOWERPOTTERY.COM writes:
Just joking about the human bone ash. I was actually shocked by the idea of
using bone ash from pets. I suppose it is better then the animal going into
a landfill. Poetic in a way. I would say use my bones when I go however I
plan on being flash frozen and buried in the Himalayas.
I actually think that it would be pretty cool to have my ashes made into a
glaze. I could be on the outside of the urn instead of in it. LOL. Of
course you wouldn't want to just go around randomly collecting people bones to do
that, you'd want to have their permission.
Leigh
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