Mike Gordon on sun 6 may 07
http://www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=11302
Look at this and explain to me, ( anybody ) how this is considered a
Caledon glaze. Mike Gordon
Paul Herman on mon 7 may 07
Mike,
It looks like a celadon that was fired in oxidation.
Best,
Paul Herman
Great Basin Pottery
Doyle, California US
http://greatbasinpottery.com
On May 6, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Mike Gordon wrote:
> http://www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=11302
>
> Look at this and explain to me, ( anybody ) how this is considered a
> Caledon glaze. Mike Gordon
William & Susan Schran User on mon 7 may 07
On 5/6/07 6:54 PM, "Mike Gordon" wrote:
> http://www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=11302
>
> Look at this and explain to me, ( anybody ) how this is considered a
> Caledon glaze.
Celadons come in all different colors.
Celadons are basically a transparent glaze with a small percentage of iron.
The specific chemistry of the glaze will create various colors.
There is a nice small show in the Sackler Museum, right behind the Freer, if
anyone happens to be in Washington.
http://www.asia.si.edu/exhibitions/current/TakingShape.htm
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
Hank Murrow on mon 7 may 07
> On May 6, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Mike Gordon wrote:
>
>> http://www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=11302
>>
>> Look at this and explain to me, ( anybody ) how this is considered a
>> Caledon glaze. Mike Gordon
On May 7, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Paul Herman wrote:
> Mike,
>
> It looks like a celadon that was fired in oxidation.
I concur, and here is one that was fired in reduction: http://
www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=6684
Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank
David Beumee on mon 7 may 07
Mike,
If you look at the lower portion of the bowl, you can see just a hint of the color of the glaze. Otherwise, the glaze is so thin on the piece that only the color of the stoneware body is showing through.
David Beumee
Porcelain by David Beumee
Lafayette, CO
www.davidbeumee.com
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From: Mike Gordon
>
> http://www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=11302
>
> Look at this and explain to me, ( anybody ) how this is considered a
> Caledon glaze. Mike Gordon
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claystevslat on mon 7 may 07
Mike --
The piece is identified as Vietnamese, (which pots I know little
about). I do know that Chaing Mai celadon sometimes looks like
that. If your definition of celadon is narrow enough to admit only
of clear (or slightly cloudy) glossy glazes made green through
inclusion of small amounts of iron in an ash glaze in reduction,
than you wouldn't accept this as celadon. (You also wouldn't accept
Tishane's blue celadons, of course.)
My guess is that this is an ash glaze high fired in reduction with a
small amount of iron it it, and exhibiting a clear, smooth surface
with virtually no color visible over a moderately light, naturally
occuring clay. It well could be the Viet 'take' on the idea of
celadon, using local materials and processes. That would make
it celadon by reference, or 'narrative'* celadon.
Best -- Steve Slatin
*I am a very, very bad person.
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gordon wrote:
>
> http://www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=3D11302
>
> Look at this and explain to me, ( anybody ) how this is
considered a
> Caledon glaze. Mike Gordon
Ric Swenson on mon 7 may 07
Just as some folks think jade is always green....NOT!
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 18:30:29 +0000> From: claystevslat@YAHOO.COM> Subje=
ct: Re: from the Freer Gallery> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > Mike --> > =
The piece is identified as Vietnamese, (which pots I know little> about). I=
do know that Chaing Mai celadon sometimes looks like> that. If your defini=
tion of celadon is narrow enough to admit only> of clear (or slightly cloud=
y) glossy glazes made green through> inclusion of small amounts of iron in =
an ash glaze in reduction,> than you wouldn't accept this as celadon. (You =
also wouldn't accept> Tishane's blue celadons, of course.)> > My guess is t=
hat this is an ash glaze high fired in reduction with a> small amount of ir=
on it it, and exhibiting a clear, smooth surface> with virtually no color v=
isible over a moderately light, naturally> occuring clay. It well could be =
the Viet 'take' on the idea of> celadon, using local materials and processe=
s. That would make> it celadon by reference, or 'narrative'* celadon.> > Be=
st -- Steve Slatin> > *I am a very, very bad person.> > --- In clayart@yaho=
ogroups.com, Mike Gordon wrote:> >> > http://www.asia.si.edu/=
collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=3D11302> >> > Look at this and explai=
n to me, ( anybody ) how this is> considered a> > Caledon glaze. Mike Gordo=
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Vince Pitelka on tue 8 may 07
Mike Gordon wrote:
> http://www.asia.si.edu/collections/singleObject.cfm?ObjectId=11302
> Look at this and explain to me, ( anybody ) how this is considered a
> Caledon glaze. Mike Gordon
Mike -
Celadons span a broad range of iron greens and blue-greens from almost
colorless to the rich olive celadons of the Northern Song Dynasty. This one
is just in the lighter range, but certainly can be called a celadon. We use
a Warren Mackenzie celadon that is almost as light in color.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
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