Taylor Hendrix on mon 14 may 07
Hey Lee, Mike, Mel and others in the know,
I found some gems on youtube yesterday and want to know what is going
on where I can't see, namely inside or behind the form. Take a look at
this clip then see my questions below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdfSQbqFjg
What's that palm up move he is doing and how does that work? I can't
tell where the pressure has been by looking at the slip on his hands.
Is it the side of his index finger, his thumb? His left hand, will be
my right. :)
Wow, did you see him drill down to get himself some more clay? Is that
normal? Why didn't I think of that?
That traditional rib shape, I can't tell. Is that working edge rounded
across the thickness?
On the vase form, I'm not sure about the whole hand pull. Where is the
pressure and counter pressure?
He once again uses the palm up move but the clay does something
different. What is going on there with his inside hand? I see the clay
expand below the palm-up hand so I'm a bit confused.
This is some great stuff. I can't wait to get me some soft clay on the hump.
Rock on!
Taylor, in Rockport TX
Lois Ruben Aronow on tue 15 may 07
How come he doesn't turn into a clay covered mess, like I do? All I could
think of it "What?! No apron or towel?!"
As for the rest, he's really just doing his pulls from the inside, and using
the outside hand for support. I've done the "whole hand" thing - it's
really more of a squeeze, very easy and productive, and requires little
strength.
..lo
**********
Lois Aronow Ceramics
Brooklyn, NY
www.loisaronow.com
www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Taylor Hendrix
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:47 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Some youtube throwing clips
>
> Hey Lee, Mike, Mel and others in the know,
>
> I found some gems on youtube yesterday and want to know what
> is going on where I can't see, namely inside or behind the
> form. Take a look at this clip then see my questions below.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdfSQbqFjg
>
> What's that palm up move he is doing and how does that work?
> I can't tell where the pressure has been by looking at the
> slip on his hands.
> Is it the side of his index finger, his thumb? His left hand,
> will be my right. :)
>
> Wow, did you see him drill down to get himself some more
> clay? Is that normal? Why didn't I think of that?
>
> That traditional rib shape, I can't tell. Is that working
> edge rounded across the thickness?
>
> On the vase form, I'm not sure about the whole hand pull.
> Where is the pressure and counter pressure?
>
> He once again uses the palm up move but the clay does
> something different. What is going on there with his inside
> hand? I see the clay expand below the palm-up hand so I'm a
> bit confused.
>
> This is some great stuff. I can't wait to get me some soft
> clay on the hump.
>
> Rock on!
>
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
>
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on tue 15 may 07
Dear Taylor Hendrix,=20
I recall a workshop with Geoff Mincham who demonstrated this process =
back in 1976 or '77. Pretty impressive blossom jar maker.
If you don't get well down in the clay, then form the flat floor of the =
"inside form" ( South Australian potters call this a "Jam Tin Bottom") =
then you will be left with a prodigious amount of clay to turn away. The =
inside hand has to open a flat area that has the diameter you intend to =
have in the final form. After that I would use a knuckle of my outer =
hand, not my palm, to lift clay from the lower wall were I using this =
throwing pattern...... which I would not do.=20
However.....did you notice the loss of height as he made the belly was =
made ???.
Interesting to watch once I had it downloaded. Broad band it in the =
future.
All eh best,
Ivor
Pamela Regentin on wed 16 may 07
Lee Love wrote:
<<didn't make a mess.>>>
I noticed how soft the clay was but also how much strength it seemed to have and I thought "wow, that clay must be old. I wonder how old?"
But, I think there was a discussion on that already...
Pam
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Lee Love on wed 16 may 07
On 5/16/07, Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> How come he doesn't turn into a clay covered mess, like I do? All I could
> think of it "What?! No apron or towel?!"
Taylor, Lois,
Did you notice how soft the clay was? It is why he
didn't make a mess.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
Tom at Hutchtel.net on thu 17 may 07
From: "Lee Love"
>> How come he doesn't turn into a clay covered mess, like I do? All I
>> could
>> think of it "What?! No apron or towel?!"
Did you notice how soft the clay was? It is why he
> didn't make a mess.
He was also throwing with slip instead of water. You can tell by the way he
wipes his hands down after each pull and leaves the residue on his finger
tips. Also why he can use such soft clay...no added water. I've watched
Richard Bresnahan throw this way. No mess unless his nose itches and he has
to wipe a finger off on his pants to scratch it.
What amazed me was the throwing strength of the clay in the ashtray segment.
The clay I use wouldn't take those shapes without slumping all over the
place.. The only clay I've seen even close to this is Aardvark's Long Beach
series.
Tom Wirt
Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 17 may 07
> > How come he doesn't turn into a clay covered mess, like I
> do? All I
> > could think of it "What?! No apron or towel?!"
>
> Taylor, Lois,
>
> Did you notice how soft the clay was? It is why he
> didn't make a mess.
>
Mine is like toothpaste. Turns into slurry in no time. I also throw with
slip. I guess I am just a slob.
...Lo
Who has been questioned more than once about the mysterious white bits on
her face, near her nose....
**********
Lois Aronow Ceramics
Brooklyn, NY
www.loisaronow.com
www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com
Taylor Hendrix on thu 17 may 07
Hey Lee,
Yes, the soft clay was rather obvious as was how he was preserving his
throwing slip and just dipping his fingertips into his throwing water.
Good stuff.
Still can't figure out those questions of mine. I continue to view
the clips, but I guess I will just have to figure it out on the hump
myself.
Taylor, in Rockport TX
On 5/15/07, Lee Love wrote:
...> Taylor, Lois,
>
> Did you notice how soft the clay was? It is why he
> didn't make a mess.
>
...
Terrance Lazaroff on fri 18 may 07
Hi Lo;
You may have difficulty with you clay because it might not be throwing
clay. I assume you are buying your clay ready made. If you buy your clay
from a supplier you may be getting school clay. That means that it is good
for all types of student projects. Example, small bowls, hand building,
coiling, and modeling. Ask your supplier if they have a good throwing clay
and give it a try. You might also experiment with mixing your own clay in
small batches to find a good recipe. Once you are satisfied with a recipe
you could order custom made clay. The clay makes the difference. 20 to 30
years practice also helps.
Have a nice day
Terrance
Lois Ruben Aronow on fri 18 may 07
Actually, I have no problem at all with my throwing or my clay - I use 2
porcelain bodies from Standard Ceramic (not together) and they are great.
My problem is - I'm usually a crusty mess at the end of my day. It's not a
problem for me, actually, but others think it's odd. I continue to be
amazed that my old studio mate (hi Lynn!) could throw all day and not get a
crumb on her - and she wears all black.
Me, well, I don't even bother with an apron anymore, and just keep a big
towel on my lap.
...Lo
Who's towel doesn't prevent her boobage from getting in the way. My potter's
mark.
**********
Lois Aronow Ceramics
Brooklyn, NY
www.loisaronow.com
www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Terrance Lazaroff
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:48 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Some youtube throwing clips
>
> Hi Lo;
>
> You may have difficulty with you clay because it might not be
> throwing clay. I assume you are buying your clay ready made.
> If you buy your clay from a supplier you may be getting
> school clay. That means that it is good for all types of
> student projects. Example, small bowls, hand building,
> coiling, and modeling. Ask your supplier if they have a good
> throwing clay and give it a try. You might also experiment
> with mixing your own clay in small batches to find a good
> recipe. Once you are satisfied with a recipe you could order
> custom made clay. The clay makes the difference. 20 to 30
> years practice also helps.
>
> Have a nice day
>
> Terrance
>
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Lee Love on fri 18 may 07
On 5/17/07, Pamela Regentin wrote:
> Lee Love wrote:
>
> <<> didn't make a mess.>>>
>
> I noticed how soft the clay was but also how much strength it seemed to have and I thought "wow, that clay must be old. I wonder how old?"
>
> But, I think there was a discussion on that already...
Pam, almost all the clay used by potters in Japan is dug out of the
ground. Usually, the only processing is making it into a slip and
running it through screens to get the stones and twigs out. It is
what I call "a potter specific material." Because it is
unrefined, you have a mix in particle size in the material. That
gives it strength.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
Bonnie Staffel on sat 19 may 07
Well, Lois, I also am a "clean" thrower. You just need to use less water or
slip and also slow your wheel speed down. Get in the rhythm
Bonnie Staffel
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