Susan Fox Hirschmann on wed 23 may 07
In a message dated 5/23/2007 8:38:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lpskeen@GMAIL.COM writes:
Boys like to make weapons and monsters. You'll need to keep an eye out also
for "inappropriate" items they will try to get away with, such as pipes and
items of a sexual nature.
With all the years of teaching....last "term" I had a 29 year old that wanted
to learn how to make a bong!
His mother was in the class with his twin sister....(a whole other
story).... and did not know what kind of shape he was making. In front of many others,
I did not want to tell her and I didn't.
Of course, how could I tell him how to make a bong? when I never had the
experience......Whatever he did here, he did of his own "creative" volition.
Yeah, I am staying far away from "inappropriate" and illegal stuff......or
stuff to do illegal stuff....
ya never know about the feds!
Thanks for all your insights, everyone on this issue.
Sincerely,
Susan
Annandale, VA
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Chuck Wagoner on wed 23 may 07
Did anyone on the list see the traveling show, "Boys will be Boys: =
Examining
Male Adolescence in Contemporary Art" in the past year? It was an =
excellent
show when it was at the Indianapolis Museum of Art in the fall.=20
Boys like subwoofers and skateboard blanks, action figures and monsters. =
I
encourage them to make over the top skateboard ideas out of clay. =
Imaginary
machines are another popular project with the advanced male students. I =
show
them Notkin, Arneson and Gilhoully (Sp...sorry David) Stiff slab vases =
are
popular too. I make the rule that boys can't save their first ten wheel
pots, but girls can save the first thing they make, if they want. It =
drives
the guys goofy and they get over being "careful" when they throw in a =
hurry.
The ladies rarely save the first work and that drives them crazy too. =
David
Smith and Juan Gonzales are really good sculptors to show to boys too!=20
Chuck
Charles Todd Wagoner
North Vermillion Jr./Sr. High School Visual Art Dept.
Billie Creek Village Potter, Rockville, IN
Charter Member "Bald Headed Potters of America"
cwag@abcs.com
cwagoner@nvc.k12.in.us
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=20
=20
Susan Fox Hirschmann on wed 23 may 07
I have always had a bunch of girls in classes and was wondering if any of you
have
found any special things teenage boys like to create in the way of
handbuilding. I always have "girly" projects but unsure with the boys.
Thanks!
Susan
Annandale, VA
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Linda K. Beasley on wed 23 may 07
You might let the boys make wind chimes. Whatever you decide to do, it
would be nice to see some photos.
Dannon Rhudy on wed 23 may 07
I've found that teenage boys love making masks, and
totems, and most anything that they can make look
ferocious. They like making tiles, especially a group
project, and I have had them make chess sets (each
one made X amount of the chessmen, depending on
the number of students). Sometimes they just want to
make anything that is BIG, and they love rakuing stuff.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
L. P. Skeen on wed 23 may 07
Boys like to make weapons and monsters. You'll need to keep an eye out also
for "inappropriate" items they will try to get away with, such as pipes and
items of a sexual nature.
--
L. P. Skeen, Summerfield NC, USA
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sacredclay on thu 24 may 07
I one time taught a summer camp class full of teenage boys. best class
I've ever had. they warmed up to me immediately when they realized that
I knew the name of every single Star Wars spacecraft as well as the
creatures that inhabits all the planets. They liked making masks. Also
space ships of their own imaginations. Wawrriors and Pokemon creatures
or whatever is the hottest thing at the moment.Making boxes of their
own with sports theme isn't a bad thing, or maybe with a nature theme.
Have fun! Kathryn in NC who no longer remembers the name of these
things. but I remember Obi Wan Ben Kenobi!
Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 24 may 07
I doubt the fed will come and raid your studio because a student made a
bong.
...Lo
Who thanks you for reminding her about a truly "inappropriate" installation
piece she wanted to make.
**********
Lois Aronow Ceramics
Brooklyn, NY
www.loisaronow.com
www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com
>
> Yeah, I am staying far away from "inappropriate" and illegal
> stuff......or stuff to do illegal stuff....
>
> ya never know about the feds!
>
darrell calhoun on thu 24 may 07
I've been teaching high school pottery for about six years and have found that giving the kids a lot of freedom is best. I teach and demonstrate a skill like pinch, coil, slab, etc. Before and during every demonstration I show a wide variety of examples (slides, photos, video, former student work) to get their creativity going. By doing this each kid is excited about the theme or style of that he or she chose and they're all learning the same technique. I'm not a "master teacher" but I'll be glad to help you in anyway possible.
Susan Fox Hirschmann wrote: I have always had a bunch of girls in classes and was wondering if any of you
have
found any special things teenage boys like to create in the way of
handbuilding. I always have "girly" projects but unsure with the boys.
Thanks!
Susan
Annandale, VA
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Weiland, Jeff on thu 24 may 07
Susan,
When it comes to hand building, the ideas you have been given all sound
right on target. Anything surreal, monster-like, fantasy, etc. One of
the assignments my students really get into is a clay modeling project
where they have to combine some living thing such as human, animal,
insect, bird, or fish, with a non-living object such as a toaster,
hairbrush, etc. Kind of a metamorphosis effect. They really like the
surreal/fantasy genre. Size is also a big issue with guys. They like to
turn everything into a size contest. When they get on the wheels, they
see the girls centering a softball size hunk of clay and of course have
to out-do them to prove their manhood!!! Then they try centering a big
pile of clay and it throws them all over the place. I just stand back
and laugh. They end up re-wedging the beast many times before being able
to achieve any sort of form.=20
Jeff Weiland
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Subject: teaching teenage boys
I have always had a bunch of girls in classes and was wondering if any
of you
have
found any special things teenage boys like to create in the way of
handbuilding. I always have "girly" projects but unsure with the boys.
Thanks!
Susan
Annandale, VA
************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
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Susan Fox Hirschmann on thu 24 may 07
In a message dated 5/24/2007 8:06:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
misslo@NYC.RR.COM writes:
I doubt the fed will come and raid your studio because a student made a
bong.
...Lo
Who thanks you for reminding her about a truly "inappropriate" installation
piece she wanted to make.
**********
Lois Aronow Ceramics
Brooklyn, NY
That silly remark that I made was pervaded by the fact that I live 20 mi.
from D.C. and it's a crazy world out there. Several students that I have work
for the govt.....and one never knows about the loonies out there.
Not that you are sheltered in Brooklyn, huh?
Susan Fox Hirschmann
Annandale, VA
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Bill Sanchez on thu 24 may 07
The Boy Scouts have a Pottery Merit Badge. I have been a councilor for
several groups of kids in my sons troop. There is a nice booklet that is
available from BSA (search BSA.org) for a couple of bucks for those
interested. Each boy makes a pinch pot, slab, coil, wheel thrown, and
animal figure of any style that they desire (with the critical reminder of
thickness of course). The guys can be pretty creative and get a lot out
of this project. This is one way my son developed an interest in clay and
now is a great help in the studio.
Hope this helps,
Bill
Mike Gordon on thu 24 may 07
Susan,
Speed boats, NASCAR favorites, duck decoy's, monsters. Basic shapes can
be made solid and then hollowed out & finished. Mike Gordon
On May 23, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Susan Fox Hirschmann wrote:
> I have always had a bunch of girls in classes and was wondering if any
> of you
> have
> found any special things teenage boys like to create in the way of
> handbuilding. I always have "girly" projects but unsure with the boys.
>
> Thanks!
> Susan
> Annandale, VA
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
> http://www.aol.com.
>
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Carl Finch on thu 24 may 07
At 07:14 AM 5/24/2007, Susan Fox Hirschmann wrote:
>In a message dated 5/24/2007 8:06:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>misslo@NYC.RR.COM writes:
>
>I doubt the fed will come and raid your studio
>because a student made a bong.
Ohhh?!
Check out "Bong Hits 4 Jesus,"
soon to be issued by The Supremes
(No, not the Motown greats. I mean the 12 supremes--as in Court)
--Carl
in Medford, Oregon
Pat Southwood on thu 24 may 07
Susan,
Mine went through a phase of making Easter Island type face sculptures, =
they look really good lined up together too. potentially a group project =
there
pat southwood
Susan Fox Hirschmann on fri 25 may 07
Thanks to ALL of you for sharing your experiences and ideas!
Tis much appreciated.
Hey isn't CLAYART the BEST!
Susan
Annandale, VA
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