Taylor Hendrix on mon 28 may 07
Howdy everybody,
Okay I've tried my hands at throwing some bowls like the potter in this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdfSQbqFjg
I'm still not sure where he is pinching the clay with that outside
hand (the one palm up). When I experimened I found my hitchhiker's
thumb digging into the clay. Any insights from those of you using this
throwing style?
Now the clay was too stiff, but I'm too lazy to get it soft. I need to
throw NOW, so...that could be a big problem there. I'm just not sure
I'll naturally find how the outside hand works.
--
Taylor, in Rockport TX
http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/
Mike Gordon on mon 28 may 07
Taylor, thanks for posting that clip!! I love watching good potters
throw. He has well aged & soft clay as you can see. I think his outside
hand is doing exactly what your hand would do ( western style ) with
your hand at 3 o'clock using your knuckle. He just happens to place it
in front of him, I've seen others do this also. With stiff clay you
won't do it that quick probably but the pressure points are the same.
Mike Gordon
On May 28, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Taylor Hendrix wrote:
> Howdy everybody,
>
> Okay I've tried my hands at throwing some bowls like the potter in
> this clip:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdfSQbqFjg
>
> I'm still not sure where he is pinching the clay with that outside
> hand (the one palm up). When I experimened I found my hitchhiker's
> thumb digging into the clay. Any insights from those of you using this
> throwing style?
>
> Now the clay was too stiff, but I'm too lazy to get it soft. I need to
> throw NOW, so...that could be a big problem there. I'm just not sure
> I'll naturally find how the outside hand works.
>
> --
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
> http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
> http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/
>
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Lee Love on tue 29 may 07
On 5/29/07, Mike Gordon wrote:
> With stiff clay you
> won't do it that quick probably but the pressure points are the same.
I said this was the Key previsouly. But Taylor don't listen. :^( ;^)
Taylor. Your clay straight from the store won't be soft
enough. My buddy Toshi, when we both had studios at NCC, would
turn one bag of clay from the clay store into two bags. Right now,
go soak a towel in water, take a block of clay out of its bag. Wrap
the block in the wet towel. Put the bag on and wrap it back up. If
you can, put the bag in a bucket of water. This helps push the water
into the stiff block. It should be uniformly softer the next day.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
Taylor Hendrix on tue 29 may 07
Aw Lee,
You're always looking out for me, like a really really old older brother. ;)
I'm on the softer clay thing for sure, Lee. Don't you worry, I heard
every word, but still want to try that grip, stiff clay no never mind.
I think some clayarters with video cameras need to do some shooting
then post some more Japanese throwing clips to youtube. HINT HINT.
I am proud to say I trimmed through the bottom of a pot yesterday.
Getting more agressive with the trimming, more even pots, nice tall
feet (Lezlie).
Turn it up everybody,
Taylor, in Rockport TX
On 5/28/07, Lee Love wrote:
...
> I said this was the Key previsouly. But Taylor don't listen. :^( ;^)
...
John Sankey on tue 29 may 07
I trust that others with dialup access know that at
http://www.youtubevideosdownload.com/
you can download YouTube videos so you can see them in real time
rather than in fits and bits. The player they recommend doesn't
work on many Windows systems, but this one seems to:
http://www.rivavx.com/index.php?downloads
Jennifer Boyer on wed 30 may 07
I think when he started to fold over the rim he started exerting a
squeezing pressure right at the fold and then worked in with that
squeezing as he kept pushing the folded rim down. Quite a trick!
Jennifer
On May 29, 2007, at 11:04 PM, sacredclay wrote:
> .I'm also curious on
> how he threw the ashtray and not get any air pockets! Kathryn
> confounded in NC --
> art/
*****************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
*****************************
Eleanora Eden on wed 30 may 07
Did you notice how clean and neat his clothes remained? Classy!
Eleanora
>-Tay Tay, I don't profess to know the answer to your question, but it
>does look like he's using the edge of his hand for the outside. What
>makes it a little difficult is that he's also thorwing with the whell
>in reverse, what we in the South call a southpaw.I'm also curious on
>how he threw the ashtray and not get any air pockets! Kathryn
>confounded in NC --
>
>> Okay I've tried my hands at throwing some bowls like the potter in
>this clip:
>>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdfSQbqFjg
>>
>> I'm still not sure where he is pinching the clay with that outside
>> hand (the one palm up). When I experimened I found my hitchhiker's
>> thumb digging into the clay. Any insights from those of you using
>this
> > throwing style?
> >
--
Bellows Falls Vermont
www.eleanoraeden.com
sacredclay on wed 30 may 07
-Tay Tay, I don't profess to know the answer to your question, but it
does look like he's using the edge of his hand for the outside. What
makes it a little difficult is that he's also thorwing with the whell
in reverse, what we in the South call a southpaw.I'm also curious on
how he threw the ashtray and not get any air pockets! Kathryn
confounded in NC --
> Okay I've tried my hands at throwing some bowls like the potter in
this clip:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiFdfSQbqFjg
>
> I'm still not sure where he is pinching the clay with that outside
> hand (the one palm up). When I experimened I found my hitchhiker's
> thumb digging into the clay. Any insights from those of you using
this
> throwing style?
>
> Now the clay was too stiff, but I'm too lazy to get it soft. I need
to
> throw NOW, so...that could be a big problem there. I'm just not sure
> I'll naturally find how the outside hand works.
>
> --
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
> http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
Gary Navarre on fri 1 jun 07
On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:46:12 -0400, John Sankey
wrote:
>I trust that others with dialup access know that at
>
>http://www.youtubevideosdownload.com/
>
>you can download YouTube videos so you can see them in real time
>rather than in fits and bits. The player they recommend doesn't
>work on many Windows systems, but this one seems to:
>
>http://www.rivavx.com/index.php?downloads
No I did not know that! Not being much of a geek yet I just put up with the
buffering, unless there is a setting that adjusts the streaming to be
continuous. Maybe QuickTime or the windows media player has something to do,
I don't know. However, what wound be the sense in using up your free space
loading a video to your hard drive when all is needed is open a tube account
and add them to your favorites as in...
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=56101
I asked Tony in electronics (W*M) about this and "rt. click, download",
etc., should work, people do it to my Fotki all the time (why pay $30 for
the workaround software?) which does end up being a copyright issue. As a
user of da tube if you would like a copy of some of my work, and it is a lot
of work, you gonna have to send some money man. That's how we do it in the
getto ya know. Geeze, if I had a nickel for every view so far I could order
another pallet of firebrick. Wonder what happened to that idea YouTube had
of giving us a penny(?) a view?
"Ganksta" G in da U.P.
"The most useful data storage medium we have is between our ears."
Earl Brunner on sat 2 jun 07
Taylor, you did pick up on the fact that the wheel is going the opposite
direction from the typical American wheel and that you would need to mirror
image any hand positions? I'm a little sporadic on clayart right now so I'm
not sure if that has been discussed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor Hendrix [mailto:wirerabbit2@GMAIL.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: Japanese throwing, youtube clip
Aw Lee,
You're always looking out for me, like a really really old older brother.
;)
I'm on the softer clay thing for sure, Lee. Don't you worry, I heard
every word, but still want to try that grip, stiff clay no never mind.
I think some clayarters with video cameras need to do some shooting
then post some more Japanese throwing clips to youtube. HINT HINT.
I am proud to say I trimmed through the bottom of a pot yesterday.
Getting more agressive with the trimming, more even pots, nice tall
feet (Lezlie).
Turn it up everybody,
Taylor, in Rockport TX
On 5/28/07, Lee Love wrote:
...
> I said this was the Key previsouly. But Taylor don't listen. :^(
;^)
...
John Sankey on mon 4 jun 07
"I just put up with the buffering, unless there is a setting that adjusts
the streaming to be continuous. Maybe QuickTime or the windows media player
has something to do..."
YouTube is continuous streaming in transmit. However, due to the limited
bandwidth of dialup access it takes far longer to transmit the clip than
to view it properly. (Those who pay for broadband connection don't have
this problem.)
"what would be the sense in using up your free space loading a video
to your hard drive"
It gets loaded to your hard drive anyway. Right click simply lets it stay
there so you can see it properly then delete it after.
"why pay $30 for the workaround software?"
Both
http://www.youtubevideosdownload.com/
and
http://www.rivavx.com/index.php?downloads
are free. No $30.
Gary Navarre on wed 20 jun 07
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:23:32 -0400, John Sankey
wrote:
>YouTube is continuous streaming in transmit. However, due to the limited
>bandwidth of dialup access it takes far longer to transmit the clip than
>to view it properly. (Those who pay for broadband connection don't have
>this problem.)
Thanks for the reminder John. Just noticed my ISP hooked up with AT&T to
expand DSL to Norway (Michigan) and the township should get it sooner than
the old never I heard last year, maybe by the end of the year. And it looks
like it won't cost any more than what I pay for dialup either.
Still I don't understand why sometimes I open a link with video and it just
plays with no buffering. Ahhh, I guess it won't matter in a few months so I
guess I'm gonna spend more time learning how to edit and produce what I've
already shot. This one seems to be doing quite good even though it is not to
do with clay...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6huNxlfQZK4
For a while there YouTube was saying they were thinking about giving a
hapeney or farthing to us pre view but I bet management didn't go much for
that idea. Poor people don't deserve to be in the money loop ya know. Good
potting and stay in there ah!
G in da U.P.
Ben Shelton on wed 20 jun 07
UMMMMM
When I look at youtube stuff I click on the link I want then hit the pause
button on the video itself. This pauses the player and allows time for the
video to download to your computers memory. Watch the little player bar turn
from dark gray to red as the clip downloads and then when iti is downloaded
hit the play button.
No bumping, no jumping and free too
Bennypapa
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