Gina Mathias on wed 11 jul 07
Hi,
=20
I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw advertisemen=
ts for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have never used either. A=
n another intereting option I saw in the archives was about using pieces of=
hardie-board, or cement board.=20
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Any opinions from more experienced potters? I've used plastic, masonite, an=
d plaster. Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
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Thanks! Gina
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Angela Davis on wed 11 jul 07
I have posted about how much I like my hardie-board bats
on CLayart before. My husband cut them from the 3x5 ft sheets.
Ended up costing about $1 each and they are as absorbent as plaster,
rigid and light weight. We used the 1/4 inch thick sheets.
The problem is the dust created when cutting them, a really nasty job.
I have some squares cut out and want to try a suggestion I read about
drilling the pin holes and placing the square on your wheel and using a
box cutter like a phonograph needle to cut the circle.
Sounds like fun anyway. As soon as I get to it I will post a
report.
PS, Everyone who has tried my bats likes them too.
Angela Davis in Homosassa with a sun/wind burn from being out on
the glorious Gulf all day!
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Subject: Buying new bats
Hi,
I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw=20
advertisements for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have never=20
used either. An another intereting option I saw in the archives was about=
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using pieces of hardie-board, or cement board.
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Thanks! Gina
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Matt Hoogland on wed 11 jul 07
Gina,
There are many types of bats on the market today. a couple types of plastic
(very durable, but not my personal favorite), duron/masonite (thin cheap
brown & useable), wonderbats (thicker & stronger than masonite, last
longer), and hydrobat plasterbats (pricey, work very well, a bit fragile).
Feel free to call me at the shop, and I can give you more details. If you
can afford, I recommend the hydrobats, they are great for all the right
reasons but i break one every month or so.
Matt H
Clay Planet
800-443-CLAY
408-295-3352
On 7/11/07, Gina Mathias wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw
> advertisements for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have never
> used either. An another intereting option I saw in the archives was about
> using pieces of hardie-board, or cement board.
>
> Any opinions from more experienced potters? I've used plastic, masonite,
> and plaster. Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
>
> Thanks! Gina
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Victoria E. Hamilton on wed 11 jul 07
Gina,
I use plaster for plates only - Creative Industries plastic batts in most
other cases. If you don't care about the batts being able to fit over batt
pins on the wheel head, unglazed tiles work very well.
Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA - still over 100 outside!
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Gina Mathias
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:56 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: [CLAYART] Buying new bats
Hi,
I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw
advertisements for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have never
used either. An another intereting option I saw in the archives was about
using pieces of hardie-board, or cement board.
Any opinions from more experienced potters? I've used plastic, masonite, and
plaster. Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
Thanks! Gina
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Taylor Hendrix on wed 11 jul 07
Gina,
If you like throwing on plaster, you might like bats made from
hardiboard. You can attatch the bats using slurry just as you would a
plaster bat, they absorb water similar to plaster bats, but they store
much better. No worries about lime pops, and they are pretty sturdy.
Some on this list have even drilled them for bat pins and like them.
I dig 'em.
Taylor, in Rockport TX
On 7/11/07, Gina Mathias wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw advertisements for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have never used either. An another intereting option I saw in the archives was about using pieces of hardie-board, or cement board.
>
> Any opinions from more experienced potters? I've used plastic, masonite, and plaster. Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
...
liz gowen on thu 12 jul 07
Gina I splurged and bought the hydro bats when I reset up my studio in
Delaware and am very pleased with them. They are particularly nice if =
you
wish to trim with a Bison trimming tool since you can leave a nice =
amount of
clay on the bottom and have them pop off the bat in time to trim. Make =
sure
you get the adapters for the different size bats so they all fit your =
wheel.
I learned on plaster on a Randall wheel and those bats took up a lot of
room. These are much thinner and thus not as heavy. I had made my own =
out of
pressed board for years but it just wasn't the same and I went back to
plaster since I really enjoy trimming a foot on my pots.
Liz Gowen
Gina said "and the hydro bat, but have never used either. An another
intereting option I saw in the archives was about using pieces of
hardie-board, or cement board.=20
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Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
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Jonathan Kirkendall on thu 12 jul 07
Hi Gina,
I was down in the studio throwing yesterday and contemplating all the
Creative Industries bats that I have and marveling about how long
they've lasted and how well they've held up. I bought mine a dozen or
two at a time back in the 90s when I had lots of students. Now I have
no students, but I do have a whole lotta good bats when I need them.
Jonathan in DC
Gina Mathias wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw advertisements for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have never used either. An another intereting option I saw in the archives was about using pieces of hardie-board, or cement board.
>
> Any opinions from more experienced potters? I've used plastic, masonite, and plaster. Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
>
> Thanks! Gina
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Elizabeth Priddy on thu 12 jul 07
I strongly suggest making a tile bat system out of hardibacker.=0AIt works =
great.=0AThe only trouble with it is that for wheel trimming, you have to u=
se=0Awooden knives because metal ones will damage the hardibacker.=0ACerami=
c tile inserts are perfect.=0AEuclids makes a system that is very affordabl=
e and properly made.=0A=0A E=0A=0AElizabeth Priddy=0ABeaufort, NC - USA=0A =
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e used the 1/4 inch thick sheets.=0A=0AThe problem is the dust created when=
cutting them, a really nasty job.=0AI have some squares cut out and want t=
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Jennifer Boyer on thu 12 jul 07
I like this plaster bat system. You make the bats yourself using a
bat mold.:
http://www.plasterbats.com/default.htm
I use mine with the standard set-up for regular bat pins rather than
the enlarged ones they offer as a alternative. That way I can use my
other bats as well since my bat pins fit all of them.
There is some labor involved, and the making of the bats is something
you get better at as you make them. I made some seconds during the
learning curve.
They have these little plastic insets for the bat pin holes so the
bats hold up well in heavy use.
I can imagine that Hardibacker makes good bats, but I found it
unpleasant to work with when I was making some ware boards out of it.
Just MHO.
Jennifer
On Jul 11, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Taylor Hendrix wrote:
>
> On 7/11/07, Gina Mathias wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw
>> advertisements for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have
>> never used either. An another intereting option I saw in the
>> archives was about using pieces of hardie-board, or cement board.
>>
>> Any opinions from more experienced potters? I've used plastic,
>> masonite, and plaster. Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
> ...
*****************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
*****************************
Chuck Wagoner on fri 13 jul 07
I love my Ultra Cal and Hydro cal plaster bats. (We make them ourselves, =
but
you can buy them too.) Once you get them made they will last for years =
and
years. No need to cut the bottoms, but you can. Plaster needs to be =
treated
with respect, but they will help dry the pots and are really great for =
wide
work that tends to crack.
For smaller work we make square bats from true masonite. The small =
squares
are great space savers and if you get the real masonite the bottoms of =
your
pots cannot be any smoother.=20
Chuck in Rockville where the Water Fall "Blue" tests are not going so =
well.
Subject: Re: Buying new bats
tinkerbellesarah on fri 13 jul 07
Hi Gina,
I make my own hydro-bats by buying a bag of hydrostone plaster and
using a soft plastic plant drip tray as a mold. The hydrostone is only
a couple of dollars more than regular potter's plaster, and I've never
had it get into my clay. The plant tray are 99 cents each and come in
many different diameters. You stick them on your wheel head, using
soft clay or slurry just like a plaster bat, but you can use metal
tools on them. I LOVE them. They don't dry your work as fast as
plaster does because hydrostone is less absorbent. This is good for
me, as I usually can get into my (damp) basement studio every other
day, so I throw one day and my work pops off and is ready to trim next
time I'm down there. I prefer using plaster for everything, since it
leaves you with a flat bottom to start trimming with. I can throw
thinner and sometimes don't have to trim at all! And plates don't
crack. I did buy some 6" bisque tiles to set up a tile bat system, but
haven't gotten around to trying it out yet. I think it would be good
for mugs.
=3D)sarah
after two days of sanding oak floors
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Gina Mathias wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I'm setting up my first studio and am ready to buy bats. I saw
advertisements for miracle bats ($$!), and the hydro bat, but have
never used either. An another intereting option I saw in the archives
was about using pieces of hardie-board, or cement board.
>
> Any opinions from more experienced potters? I've used plastic,
masonite, and plaster. Of those, I guess plaster would be my choice.
>
> Thanks! Gina
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