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glue as a resist?

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Smith, Judy on sun 15 jul 07


I am trying to make fine lines of resist (about 1/8" thick) between
different colors of glaze on my pots. I want the lines to be unglazed
after they are fired. I tried painting on wax resist and latex lines,
but it is very hard to get thin even lines. Has anyone tried using
undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a glue gun?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

=20

Thanks,

Judy Smith

Lee Love on sun 15 jul 07


On 7/15/07, Smith, Judy wrote:

> undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a glue gun?
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I use a hot glue gun to draw designs on paddles, stamps and rollers.
You might try it on a discarded piece of bisque. It should pull off
after you are finished glazing. Test it.

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Patty Kaliher on mon 16 jul 07


Try some sort of wax pencil which can be sharpened to a point. Lip liner
pencil. Some are waxier than others. Crayons can also make a thin line of
wax.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Smith, Judy
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:02 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Glue as a resist?

I am trying to make fine lines of resist (about 1/8" thick) between
different colors of glaze on my pots. I want the lines to be unglazed
after they are fired. I tried painting on wax resist and latex lines,
but it is very hard to get thin even lines. Has anyone tried using
undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a glue gun?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Thanks,

Judy Smith

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Dan Saultman on mon 16 jul 07


Judy,
Try tape. Many people have used it successfully.
You can get thin tape at drafting or art supply stores or auto paint
stores (they use it for pin striping).
You can also cut your own strips from wider masking tape. The cheaper
brand of wide (2") masking tape has a more agressive adhesive.
To cut your own tape strips place a length of tape on a piece of window
glass. Use a straight edge and a sharp exacto knife. The excato knife
will also help you lift up the strips off the glass.

You can then either let the strips burn off in the firing, or, for the
cleanest result pull the strips off prior to firing.

Good luck.

Dan Saultman
Fine-Art Pottery
Detroit
http://www.saultman.com

On Jul 15, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Smith, Judy wrote:

> I am trying to make fine lines of resist (about 1/8" thick) between
> different colors of glaze on my pots. I want the lines to be unglazed
> after they are fired. I tried painting on wax resist and latex lines,
> but it is very hard to get thin even lines. Has anyone tried using
> undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a glue gun?
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Judy Smith
>
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Angela Davis on mon 16 jul 07


Judy, I use the rubber squeeze bulb with hollow metal tip
you can find in most pottery catalogs for around $6.

They are a bit of a pain to fill but you can draw very easily with
them. If you first put your liquid wax in a plastic squeeze bottle,
like those mustard servers, it makes it easier to get the wax in the
bulb. Practice drawing on a plate to get the feel of it.

A tip here; If you get a blob of wax wait until it is dry to scrape it off
otherwise you will just smear it around and ruin your lines.

I use black wax for my tiles but you could use clear wax if
you want the clay color to show through. I like the consistency
of the wax Aftosa sells for this.

Take a look at my blog to see how nice this method works.

http://blogs.ebay.com/flirty-girls

Angela Davis

In Homosassa


----- Original Message -----
From: "Smith, Judy"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 10:01 PM
Subject: Glue as a resist?


I am trying to make fine lines of resist (about 1/8" thick) between
different colors of glaze on my pots. I want the lines to be unglazed
after they are fired. I tried painting on wax resist and latex lines,
but it is very hard to get thin even lines. Has anyone tried using
undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a glue gun?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Thanks,

Judy Smith

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John Connolly on mon 16 jul 07


'Posted by: "Smith, Judy" Judy.Smith@NSCC.EDU Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:42 pm (PST) "I am trying to make fine lines of resist (about 1/8" thick) between
different colors of glaze on my pots. I want the lines to be unglazed
after they are fired. I tried painting on wax resist and latex lines,
but it is very hard to get thin even lines. Has anyone tried using
undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a glue gun?
Any suggestions would be appreciated."

Judy, Elmer's or any carpenter's glue work fine as a resist. You can even add colored slip to it to leave a different colored line instead of an unglazed one. I've never tried glue from a glue gun, but it sounds like a good idea for me because I have a real problem with painted lines.




John Connolly in Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico


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Dannon Rhudy on mon 16 jul 07


Elmer's glue works. If you don't like the
wax lines because they are too thick/uneven,
you can get small bottles with extremely fine
metal tips. You might put some wax in one of
those to draw lines. Lacquer works well as a
resist, too, and fine lines can be drawn. Wax
pencils might work, depending upon the smoothness
of your clay body at bisque.

regards

Dannon Rhudy

Tony on mon 16 jul 07


Hi Judy
I havent tried to use glue or puffy paint but I have had some success using
6mm tape (purchased from an art supply store) as a resist. It gives a clean
line, but has its limitations.
Good luck
Tony
Sydney Australia


----- Original Message -----
From: "Smith, Judy"
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: Glue as a resist?


I am trying to make fine lines of resist (about 1/8" thick) between
different colors of glaze on my pots. I want the lines to be unglazed
after they are fired. I tried painting on wax resist and latex lines,
but it is very hard to get thin even lines. Has anyone tried using
undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a glue gun?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Thanks,

Judy Smith

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Jeanette Harris on mon 16 jul 07


>Elmer's glue works. If you don't like the
>wax lines because they are too thick/uneven,
>you can get small bottles with extremely fine
>metal tips. You might put some wax in one of
>those to draw lines. Lacquer works well as a
>resist, too, and fine lines can be drawn. Wax
>pencils might work, depending upon the smoothness
>of your clay body at bisque.
>
>regards
>
>Dannon Rhudy


This brings to mind the small wax hand tool that is used to make
Batik wax resist lines. They have a fine point that curves downward
to keep the wax flowing, a small reservoir behind the tip to keep the
hot wax in. The whole thing is made of brass, so it can be passed
over a candle flame to keep the wax melted.

Take a look at http://www.dharmatrading.com

Might take a bit of time learning how to use it, but it might just be
the thing. As a matter of fact, now I'm thinking of ordering one! heh


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Kathy McDonald on mon 16 jul 07


I use epoxy bottles with very fine tips to trail liquid wax
resist onto bisque pots.
Lots of control..the orifices on the bottles determine the
width of the lines.

Kathy Mc

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of
Patty Kaliher
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:01 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Glue as a resist?


Try some sort of wax pencil which can be sharpened to a
point. Lip liner
pencil. Some are waxier than others. Crayons can also make
a thin line of
wax.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
Smith, Judy
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:02 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Glue as a resist?

I am trying to make fine lines of resist (about 1/8" thick)
between
different colors of glaze on my pots. I want the lines to
be unglazed
after they are fired. I tried painting on wax resist and
latex lines,
but it is very hard to get thin even lines. Has anyone
tried using
undiluted Elmer's glue, acrylic puffy paint, or glue from a
glue gun?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Thanks,

Judy Smith

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Ivor and Olive Lewis on tue 17 jul 07


Dear Judy Smith,

A useful tool for this sort of work is a Batik Tjanting which is =
available in several styles and spout diameters from your nearby Fabric =
Crafts supplier.

This can be used to lay down uniform lines of wax. Warming you clay work =
to about 40-45 deg C will help to prevent your hot wax freezing =
prematurely and ensure good adhesion of wax to clay.

Best regards,

Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.

June on wed 18 jul 07


Judy, I use Axner's Waxline to do this- it comes in a few different colors,
but I like black. I warm it up in a bowl of warm water before use as I
start shaking if I have to squeeze a bottle too hard!

Also besides the Tjanting (sp?) for Batik, you could try a Kistka- the tool
used to make wax lines on the Ukranian easter eggs. I have an electric
Kistka but in all honesty I never thought of using it for pottery.

-June
www.risingsunearthworks.com

Ed Huml on thu 19 jul 07


Another possible way is to use hot wax. Just like they do it to decorate
Ukrainian Easter eggs (pysanky). Do a web search for this and see that
lots of people sell the supplies.

I made my own wax stylus called a kistka? back in high school. The
kistka is a small cone shaped bit of brass with a hole at the point of
the cone which is pointed down. This cone is on the end of a small
wooden stick. Scoop some wax in the heated cone from your candle,
melt the wax, draw your lines. Fill in the lines for large areas.

Now I see they even have electric ones so you can do away with
the candle. Sort of like an electric glue gun.

Oh yeah, they come in different size points for various widths. Good
luck and post some photos.

Ed Huml
BRUCA.org.
Brooklyn, NY



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