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changing your throwing position/change

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mel jacobson on fri 27 jul 07


i have been faced with some rather daunting challenges
as i have aged, and worn out my body as a potter.

for the last year i have been having a rather severe pain
in my right shoulder as i throw bigger forms.

went to my 78 year old orthopedic surgeon and had
x/rays taken...analysis.

nothing can be done. arthritis/worn out joint.
so:

here is what i am doing.

going to keep on throwing, working til i die.

i changed the position of my wheel. added two inches
to my throwing stool, moved the stool four inches closer to the
wheel head. i am over and on top of the wheel head a bit.
have made a conscious effort to use my legs more when centering
and pulling clay.

the pain is almost cut in half. in fact, if i am not thinking about it,
it is gone.
same for my thumbs, not putting pressure on them when opening.
using the entire hand to pull the clay open.

in other words, i am adjusting to the problem, facing it full on.
some think it is impossible to change....make the work easier. i don't
believe that...i must change how i do things. make that conscious
effort to make the work easier, not harder. and, i know i am really
fussy about the softness of the clay...just won't try and force firm
clay into pots. i run it through the pug mill three times while
spraying it with a mist of water. that time is well spent.

it is like tom wirt's post the other day....how betsy glazes.
do the temmoku first. put it in one spot...that goes in a special part
of the kiln. white next, then blue. and, i know she is conscious of
size....it is called organization. and, i sure know betsy...she is
more than organized. no waste time or motion with that woman.
they are a fantastic team, and they have diversified their business
each year....grown and made good decisions to make their life better.

just like how i make teapots.
a dozen bodies....all the openings the same size..exact.
14 covers...the same size. (always glaze and fire one extra..put it
in a box.)
15 spouts...very similar. assemble them so that each has a unique
shape and style...but all the covers fit all the pots, all the spouts
can be used on any teapot. no guessing.

i purchased 15 advancer shelves. now that was worth every penny.
no grunt putting those upper shelves in place. it added twenty years
to my kiln loading potential.

i don't drink alcohol, never smoke and use my seat belt.
i lost 70 pounds....and work to keep it off.

now if i can stop saying shit...i will be `almost` a good person.
change is good.
mel

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Marcia Selsor on fri 27 jul 07


Thanks Mel.
I am making 200 teabowls for a tea tasting fundraiser at the local
museum where there will be a national teapot show. That
throwing..first proplonged throwing in a while, gave me a pain in the
back. I am doing yoga which is helping my total body. I'll try the
raised seat. A while ago it was the raised wheel. Variety is the key.
Noticed the right shoulder pain. I tried working with an air
conditioner but it dries out the porcelain really fast. Going outside
is like stepping into a steam room. At least the clay doesn't dry out.

From southmost Texas. Going to Mexico for the weekend into the
mountain jungles and the tropic of cancer.
Taking a sketch book, binoculars and camera. The lush jungle around
here is really a switch from Montana. It will be great to be in
mountains even if they are jungle. The gulf was beautiful last week.
Went swimming in calm waters and could see the schools of fish in
rolling swells as we floated over them. ..So could the pelicans and
seagulls. Adios!
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com

jev on fri 27 jul 07


Thanks for that Mel, from an aging UK potter with a similar duff right
shoulder. Now to adjust the wheel and seat - The alcohol 'repositioning'
may take a bit more effort!

Must share too a lovely surprise today. I moved to the South Coast of
England 6 months ago. When the builders were busy creating havoc I noticed
them digging up a lovely yellow clay. Made a slip and bisque fired it onto a
pot yesterday. Its come through a wonderful orange red. My house is old and
the deeds say that I mustn't start a brick works there. I'd wondered why -
now I know!

Regards to all

jev

http://www.jevceramics.co.uk

Tom at Hutchtel.net on fri 27 jul 07


Hi Marcia,

If you're having back problems, also check your feet. I use the foot pedal
under my right, and put a piece of tapered 2x4 under the left to get things
close to even. Also I throw with my elbows on my knees most of the time.
Takes the weight off the back. Even twisting to deposit the newly thrown
pot on a shelf can cause a problem. That twist while holding weight can
pull the opposite side back muscles.

Ahhhh....they should let us throw the pots while we're young, drink the
Dickle from the pots when we're old.

Tom Wirt
Hutchinson, MN
twirt@hutchtel.net
www.claycoyote.com

Marcia Selsor on fri 27 jul 07


Thanks for the tips.
I drink some Dickel but lately I am enjoying Mojitos with limes off
the tree and mint from the garden!
Marcia
On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Tom at Hutchtel.net wrote:

> Hi Marcia,
>
> If you're having back problems, also check your feet. I use the
> foot pedal
> under my right, and put a piece of tapered 2x4 under the left to
> get things
> close to even. Also I throw with my elbows on my knees most of the
> time.
> Takes the weight off the back. Even twisting to deposit the newly
> thrown
> pot on a shelf can cause a problem. That twist while holding
> weight can
> pull the opposite side back muscles.
>
> Ahhhh....they should let us throw the pots while we're young, drink
> the
> Dickle from the pots when we're old.
>
> Tom Wirt
> Hutchinson, MN
> twirt@hutchtel.net
> www.claycoyote.com
>
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KATHI LESUEUR on fri 27 jul 07


On Jul 27, 2007, at 3:42 AM, mel jacobson wrote:

> i have been faced with some rather daunting challenges
> as i have aged, and worn out my body as a potter.
>
> for the last year i have been having a rather severe pain
> in my right shoulder as i throw bigger forms.
>
> went to my 78 year old orthopedic surgeon and had
> x/rays taken...analysis.
>
> nothing can be done. arthritis/worn out joint.
> so:.....
>
> i purchased 15 advancer shelves. now that was worth every penny.
> no grunt putting those upper shelves in place. it added twenty years
> to my kiln loading potential.
>
> i don't drink alcohol, never smoke and use my seat belt.
> i lost 70 pounds....and work to keep it off.
>
> now if i can stop saying shit...i will be `almost` a good person.
> change is good.
> mel>>>

I'd suggest one other thing. Glucosamine/Condroitin. I've been taking
it for a year. About four weeks ago I stopped. I was having some
intestinal problems and thought it might be the glucosamine, not
having been convinced it was helping. Two weeks later every joint in
my body ached. I'm now back on it and a firm believer in the stuff.
I hadn't realized just how much affect it had had on my body.

Kathi

WJ Seidl on fri 27 jul 07


My Dear Mayor Mel
Perhaps it's time to go in a slightly "out of the box" direction.

At the next NCECA, I would be happy to present you with a
2X4 made of balsa wood. You can retire that hefty hickory stick you've
been using. Chuck it in the kiln!

Balsa...just as menacing, 1/8 the weight.

Best,
Wayne Seidl
> On Jul 27, 2007, at 3:42 AM, mel jacobson wrote:
>
>> i have been faced with some rather daunting challenges
>> as i have aged, and worn out my body as a potter.
>>
>> for the last year i have been having a rather severe pain
>> in my right shoulder as i throw bigger forms.
>>
>> went to my 78 year old orthopedic surgeon and had
>> x/rays taken...analysis.
>>
>> nothing can be done. arthritis/worn out joint.
>> so:.....
>>
>> i purchased 15 advancer shelves. now that was worth every penny.
>> no grunt putting those upper shelves in place. it added twenty years
>> to my kiln loading potential.
>>
>> i don't drink alcohol, never smoke and use my seat belt.
>> i lost 70 pounds....and work to keep it off.
>>
>> now if i can stop saying shit...i will be `almost` a good person.
>> change is good.
>> mel>>>
>

Ivor and Olive Lewis on sat 28 jul 07


I am convinced that the incidence of Arthritis, if not genetically =
determined, is directly due to ingestion of highly refined food over a =
prolonged period of time.
Research the origins of Glucosamine and Chondroitin. Are they =
synthesised or are they derived directly from those parts of fish, flesh =
and fowl that would otherwise be discarded due to our dietary =
preferences and an unwillingness to masticate our food.
To these two prophylactics I would add a daily dose of Fish Oil.
Ah yes. Posture at the Wheel is an important consideration. Stability =
and equilibrium are prime considerations.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.

Lois Ruben Aronow on sat 28 jul 07


I had really bad lower back problems from throwing for a while, on my left
side by my hip. I am a lefty, so I guess this is just the way I twist.

I use a brick under my left foot, with my foot pedal on my right. This
evens out my hips while throwing. I also get very close to the wheel -
straddling it, nearly - which forces me to sit up taller, and/or bend from
the upper body. I was lucky - I was taught early on that posture is so
important, so I am extremely conscious of it. Sit straight up, with
shoulders down your back, hips even - yoga-like. Also, it's important to
stand up, walk and stretch regularly during throwing sessions. I will wedge
up only enough clay to keep me sitting there an hour or two.

Stagger your work schedule. Throw one day, glaze another, finishing work
another.

This helps A LOT. On the occasions I must do throwing marathons for days on
end, I get pain. Acupuncture is a miracle for me. I won't take Tylenol
unless is absolutely necessary, because I feel it really only masks the
symptoms of what I'm doing wrong.

I'm sure Mel knows all this stuff, but for beginners starting out, it's best
to learn to throw in a healthy manner from the get-go.

...Lo

**********
Lois Aronow Ceramics
Brooklyn, NY

www.loisaronow.com
www.craftsofthedamned.blogspot.com

Helen Bates on sat 28 jul 07


When I was throwing, I raised my wheel on patio cobblestones. My left foot
was dangling (I used the pedal on the right) so I put another cobblestone on
the floor for my left foot to rest on.

Now I found that the wheel at the higher level made centering difficult, so
I used a higher setting for my potters' stool when centering. Then I would
release the gas and let the chair down pretty much to its lowest setting to
pull up the piece.

Having the stool seat higher allowed me a greater leverage on the lump of
clay when centering. Having it lower when pulling up allowed me to see the
pot's profile as it was growing.

My particular anatomical issues were a long back relative to the length of
my legs, right hip arthritis, and discogenic back pain. All of these were
fully controlled by being careful to use the above wheel height and stool
settings.

One other thing I did also helped me: The CI stool has a great padded
saddle, but the back-rest gives no support to the lumbar spine, so I had to
use an Obus-form back roll against another foam back cushion (yes, two) to
maintain my lumbar curve in a correctly concave to the rear conformation.

Helen
--
Helen Bates
Belleville, Ontario, Canada
Clayarters' URLs: http://amsterlaw.com/clayart/

James and Sherron Bowen on sat 28 jul 07


The cable connecting the pedal on my Brent is long enough to move the pedal
to the left side so I can put my weight on my right foot when I lean over to
throw.
JB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Helen Bates"
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: changing your throwing position/change

Gayle Bair on sun 29 jul 07


I've noticed that splash pans on many recent wheel designs
keep getting farther and farther away from the wheelhead. Because I am short
and do not have long arms this causes an issue for me as I cannot get my
center of gravity over the wheelhead.
To remedy the splash pan issue I remove at least the front half and anchor
a large sponge in the back portion. For the one piece splash pan I'll remove
the entire
thing using a bucket of water to anchor the sponge.
I've drastically reduced the amount of water I use and am throwing much
drier than ever before.
I'm throwing soft clay better, faster & with less problems than ever before.
I have several issues...being only 5' tall most wheels are too high at their
lowest leg settings. I have found the Brent and now Shimpo VL Whisper
will actually get low enough for me to use my thigh as leverage.
My stool is an old computer chair with a hydraulic seat.
It frequently changes my setting (I said it was old!) and forces me to set
it usually at a different
setting which helps with changing throwing positions.
When I feel myself tiring at the wheel I'll move to the slab roller and make
my production press mold soap dishes.
As my studio is shrinking (I keep purging but theory is that my things
procreate when I'm not in there)
I need to keep everything portable. For my left foot I've used wood block
but found a stainless steel bowl that
is just the right size for my left foot. I invert it on the floor and my
foot is elevated to just the right height.
I use a Rubbermaid one step stool to load and unload the kiln which is easy
to kick out of the way when the load gets near the top.
I made a brick protector out of a piece of hardiboard (1/4") with electrical
tape around the edges. It is cut to the shape of the top edge.
When I drop a kiln sitter cone to the bottom of the just loaded kiln I use a
grabby thing that reaches right down to the bottom
and using the thumb spring snags it so I do not have to empty the whole kiln
to get it.
Oh.... here's a picture of it
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/5C590
and it's called a flexible retrieving tool! See I was right.... a grabby
thing! It'll snag larger things too.
You can spend $10+ on the Grainger one or go to your local dollar store and
get one for a dollar.
One final tip... is to find the positions and changes that work for you.
Ok I'm out of my changes & tips for the moment.

Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com

-----Original Message-----
From:Joseph Herbert

Most of the places I have done pots have stools that are too low. My
preferred position is to have the front of the stool level with the wheel
head surface. If possible, I like for the stool seat to be inclined about
10 degrees toward the wheel. At my house, I use a invalids shower stool for
my throwing seat. It has 4 adjustable legs, a plastic seat that is a little
cushiony and pretty durable. My legs are long enough that this position
doesn't bother me, my knees are above the wheel head surface, as well so I
can use my leg muscles as well.

There is a tendency to hunch over and really stiffen up when applying force
to the clay. A straight back and getting the body mass as close to and as
far out over the wheel head as possible really helps. I used an old
stand-up treadle wheel (about waist high) at a place in Cleveland. I really
wonder at the lot of commercial potters who had to use those wheels to do
piece work. Hard on the body, all arms and chest.
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Joseph Herbert on sun 29 jul 07


Most of the places I have done pots have stools that are too low. My
preferred position is to have the front of the stool level with the wheel
head surface. If possible, I like for the stool seat to be inclined about
10 degrees toward the wheel. At my house, I use a invalids shower stool for
my throwing seat. It has 4 adjustable legs, a plastic seat that is a little
cushiony and pretty durable. My legs are long enough that this position
doesn't bother me, my knees are above the wheel head surface, as well so I
can use my leg muscles as well.

There is a tendency to hunch over and really stiffen up when applying force
to the clay. A straight back and getting the body mass as close to and as
far out over the wheel head as possible really helps. I used an old
stand-up treadle wheel (about waist high) at a place in Cleveland. I really
wonder at the lot of commercial potters who had to use those wheels to do
piece work. Hard on the body, all arms and chest.

Pay attention to your posture, maybe have someone photograph you when you
are not thinking about it, or maybe a video... Critique your positions and
think of the long haul. Warren McKenzie did a pug mill ad a few years ago
saying that the machine was adding years to his wrists. When I quit my
wondering ways, that will be my first purchase, I think. I want to find out
how soft is the softest clay I can throw... And find it out without
wedging. At some point I would like to be able to throw pudding, or
something pretty close. Actually, I have thrown pudding only to find that
it is harder to get off the wall than you might think, especially when it
has had time to dry while you are sitting in the corner. I remember it
being chocolate.

Sit up, will you!!

Joseph Herbert

Joseph Herbert
Technical Writer
Irving, Texas
214-725-8305 (Cell)

Lee Love on sun 29 jul 07


I highly recommend manual, instead of electric wheels.
When you power the wheel, the wheel conforms to your needs. When the
wheel powers you, you conform to the needs of the wheel. You are a
cog in the machine, the weakest link.

--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"To affect the quality of the day, that is the highest of arts." -
Henry David Thoreau

"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi

Joan Klotz on sun 29 jul 07


Well Mel, I have a cautionary tale for you. Some one once told me a
story that he attributed to Mark Twain. A lady who was poorly went
to see her doctor. After examining her carefully the doctor said
"Madam you are gravely ill you must immediately give up alcohol,
smoking and cussing." To which she relied "but sir I do not smoke or
drink alcoholic beverages and I have never cussed." Poor woman there
was nothing they could do for her, she had been neglecting her vices.

Joan Klotz,
Venice, CA.



>i don't drink alcohol, never smoke and use my seat belt.
>i lost 70 pounds....and work to keep it off.
>
>now if i can stop saying shit...i will be `almost` a good person.
>change is good.
>mel
>
>from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
>website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
>
>Clayart page link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html

WJ Seidl on sun 29 jul 07


Joseph:
Chocolate pudding is a bit too soft, even properly cooked and cooled.
(I know, all the youngsters are going "Cooked? Pudding gets cooked?"
You would be better off trying it with a firm salmon or Ghirardelli dark
chocolate mousse,
or a nice chocolate creme brulee, stiffened appropriately in the
refrigerator. A thickish custard
will also do nicely. (My arteries are clogging just re-reading this.)

Just for fun some day when you're planning a "soiree" , take two or
three packages of
cream cheese. Allow it to soften out of the refrigerator for a while.
On a clean (or foil covered) bat, smash them together, center and
throw a nice bowl from it. Walls should be about 3/8-1/2 inch thick.
(Milk as a throwing liquid works well, or throw it dry)

Put it (bat and all) back into the refrigerator to harden up some and chill.
Cut it off the bat and wrap in plastic wrap.
Sprinkle it with parsley or cilantro, then fill and serve salsa in it,
with chips at your next get-together.

Oh, the comments you will get! .

Best,
Wayne Seidl


Joseph Herbert wrote:
> SNIP
> I want to find out
> how soft is the softest clay I can throw... And find it out without
> wedging. At some point I would like to be able to throw pudding, or
> something pretty close. Actually, I have thrown pudding only to find that
> it is harder to get off the wall than you might think, especially when it
> has had time to dry while you are sitting in the corner. I remember it
> being chocolate.
>
> Sit up, will you!!
>
> Joseph Herbert
>
>
>

Victoria E. Hamilton on sun 29 jul 07


Well Wayne,

I'm saving THIS recipe for sure!

I've always said that throwing with some porcelains is like throwing with
cream cheese!

Thanks.
Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of WJ Seidl
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:23 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: [CLAYART] changing your throwing position/change

Joseph:
Chocolate pudding is a bit too soft, even properly cooked and cooled.
(I know, all the youngsters are going "Cooked? Pudding gets cooked?"
You would be better off trying it with a firm salmon or Ghirardelli dark
chocolate mousse, or a nice chocolate creme brulee, stiffened appropriately
in the refrigerator. A thickish custard will also do nicely. (My arteries
are clogging just re-reading this.)

Just for fun some day when you're planning a "soiree" , take two or three
packages of cream cheese. Allow it to soften out of the refrigerator for a
while.
On a clean (or foil covered) bat, smash them together, center and throw a
nice bowl from it. Walls should be about 3/8-1/2 inch thick.
(Milk as a throwing liquid works well, or throw it dry)

Put it (bat and all) back into the refrigerator to harden up some and chill.
Cut it off the bat and wrap in plastic wrap.
Sprinkle it with parsley or cilantro, then fill and serve salsa in it, with
chips at your next get-together.

Oh, the comments you will get! .

Best,
Wayne Seidl


Joseph Herbert wrote:
> SNIP
> I want to find out
> how soft is the softest clay I can throw... And find it out without
> wedging. At some point I would like to be able to throw pudding, or
> something pretty close. Actually, I have thrown pudding only to find
> that it is harder to get off the wall than you might think, especially
> when it has had time to dry while you are sitting in the corner. I
> remember it being chocolate.
>
> Sit up, will you!!
>
> Joseph Herbert
>
>
>

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Lois Sharpe on sun 29 jul 07


Wayne,

I did this!
many years ago!
Centered a plate with a griffin-grip and through a cream cheese bowl
directly on the plate.

Only thing is I did not think about re-chillin' it.
so in about 15 minutes with the salsa ...... it collapsed
but did so in a beautiful 5 "petal" flower.
Everyone thought I arranged the cheese to look like a daisy.

haha
what fun!
lo


Lois Sharpe





On Jul 29, 2007, at 2:22 PM, WJ Seidl wrote:

>
> Just for fun some day when you're planning a "soiree" , take two or
> three packages of
> cream cheese. Allow it to soften out of the refrigerator for a while.
> On a clean (or foil covered) bat, smash them together, center and
> throw a nice bowl from it. Walls should be about 3/8-1/2 inch thick.
> (Milk as a throwing liquid works well, or throw it dry)
>
> Put it (bat and all) back into the refrigerator to harden up some
> and chill.
> Cut it off the bat and wrap in plastic wrap.
> Sprinkle it with parsley or cilantro, then fill and serve salsa in it,
> with chips at your next get-together.
>
> Oh, the comments you will get! .
>
> Best,
> Wayne Seidl

Eleanor on mon 30 jul 07


mel said:

> a couple of concrete blocks next to your electric kiln may just
> be a great help with you loading...

............ I use half of a pallet.....

I have another half pallet in my studio to give me height for
wedging; I can't alter the height or placement of my wedging surface
-- the pallet works fine.

Eleanor Kohler
Centerport, NY

Eleanor on mon 30 jul 07


I'm an old lady with a bad right leg: phlebitis twice, broken tibia,
off-and-on heel pain, off-and-on ankle pain. The orthopedist couldn't
find a cause, recommended the usual RICE treatment which I do, and I
get regular exercise in a gym. Thankfully, most often, I am not in
pain. As ailments go, it could be a lot worse.

My kickwheel broke down some years ago at about the same time I began
having leg trouble. The wheel could have been fixed but not my leg.
So I bought a Brent C and I couldn't be happier.

Recently I noticed some strain on my right leg from just operating
the foot pedal; I switched it to the left side. It took about five
minutes for me to adjust to the change. And I use the 4x4 to balance
the other side.

There has been much talk on Clayart about the symbiotic (spiritual?)
relationship between potter and manual wheel and how this cannot
happen between potter and electric wheel. I beg to differ. I don't
think a relationship exists at all, kickwheel or electric.

When I throw, the only relationship in play is between me and the
lump of clay on the wheelhead. The power that turns the wheel is not
something that I consider or am aware of. As it was with the
kickwheel, I can regulate the Brent's speed from extremely slow on
up. I don't have to pay attention to the regulation process -- it's
automatic. My attention is fully focused on the pot. And the electric
wheel didn't make my pots worse; my pots are better. I ascribe that
to the passage of time and practice, practice, practice.

Some may define the above as a sort of symbiotic relationship between
me and my Brent. Feel free to do so.

Many older people are plagued with ailments of one sort or another
and, like mel, we want to keep working to the end. Electric wheels,
centering devices, GGs, even pot lifters, are godsends. The more the
merrier. One exception: for mixing glaze in the bucket the toilet
brush works better than the power drill mixer.

Usual disclaimers re: Brent. I bought a Brent because I had used them
in clay classes and liked them. If it had been some other brand I
might just as well have bought that. One should never buy such an
item without first trying it out.

Eleanor Kohler
Centerport, NY

I always hated kneading bread dough, never thought it relieved me of
aggressive feelings. It was just hard work. I love my dough hook!

Victoria E. Hamilton on tue 31 jul 07


Well Russell -

It seems you're throwing again! I think you said as much a week or so ago.

I loved your hand build pieces at La Meridiana and would love to see what it
is that you throw.

Do you alter them? Add things to them?

Photos?

Take care.

Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Russel Fouts
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:15 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: [CLAYART] changing your throwing position/change

I have my wheel mounted on the pedestal from an old barber's chair.

It's great! I can raise it, lower it spin it around to get the best view,
lock it in place.

Pots with short back and sides! ;-)

Ru



Russel Fouts
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Russel Fouts on tue 31 jul 07


I have my wheel mounted on the pedestal from an old barber's chair.

It's great! I can raise it, lower it spin it around to get the best
view, lock it in place.

Pots with short back and sides! ;-)

Ru



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Russel Fouts on tue 31 jul 07


>> Salsa bowl thrown from cream cheese, Oh, the comments you will get! . <<

Nah, they'll just think it's porcelain. Throws the same!

Try chopped liver!

Ru



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Russel Fouts on wed 1 aug 07


John,

I'm still in the process of setting up household after a relocation.
I probably won't be in my studio for another couple of weeks to take the photo.

It's really simple. The chair was held onto the pneumatic pedestal by
4 bolts. I undid those and the chair came right off.

Then I created a table-top using a sturdy, square board bigger than
the base of the wheel (a shimpo RK10). The board should be big enough
to support the wheel but small enough not to interfere with the
control arm of the pedestal.

I drilled holes to match the base and bolted the board to the base
reusing the bolts from the chair.

The wheel just sits on top.

Easy, Peasy!

I'm handy but lazy. Things that just stack are good. ;-)

If this doesn't answer your question, send me an email in a few weeks
to remind me and I'll probably have taken a picture by then.

Russel

At 15:09 01/08/2007, you wrote:
>Russel:
>
>Any chance you can email a picture of your "barber's chair potters wheel"?
>I have a teaching studio and have had to make various wheel height changes
>to accommodate lower back pain issues for varying height students. Such
>extremes as one woman being 5'2" and another being 6'1". A quick
>change/adjustment that you speak of may be worth considering.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Johnnie J.
>John Johnson
>Mud Bucket Pottery
>www.mudbucketpottery.com
>843-399-8702 Studio
>843-340-1674 Cell (when it works)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Russel Fouts [mailto:Russel.Fouts@SKYNET.BE]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:15 PM
>Subject: Re: changing your throwing position/change
>
>I have my wheel mounted on the pedestal from an old barber's chair.
>
>It's great! I can raise it, lower it spin it around to get the best
>view, lock it in place.
>
>Pots with short back and sides! ;-)
>
>Ru
>
>
>
> Russel Fouts
> Mes Potes & Mes Pots
> Brussels, Belgium
> Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
> Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
>
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