Hollis on fri 27 jul 07
> Hi, Mel. A couple of days ago I posted a general call for help with a
> kiln shutdown problem I've been having here at my pottery. I haven't
> seen the post yet and wondered if it was accepted by you or, if not,
> whether there was something else I needed to do with it. I understand
> you wade through piles of these things and I'm not trying to pressure
> you, just trying to figure out if I need to do something else to get
> the problem in front of people.
Thanks,
Hollis Engley
Hatchville Pottery
E. Falmouth, Mass.
And PS: I tried to send this direct to the melpots@pclink.com address,
but it kept bouncing back.
On Jul 28, 2007, at 8:24 AM, mel jacobson wrote:
> this is a very old topic, and hard to come to grips with.
>
> i have always felt that when taking pix of shinny, glossy pots
> we should have a few hot spots...what the hell, you are
> taking pix of glossy pots.
> why put dull spray on them? they are glossy.
> i don't want folks to think the pots are matt finish.
>
> the only way i can solve the dilemma is to
> shoot very slow, low light...with the lights pulled
> back...so:
> f32 for 19 seconds
> you just cannot use the auto settings on
> your camera when shooting glossy pots.
>
> i use natural sun florescent bulbs. low power.
> concrete floor and a good tripod.
>
> for my web work...who cares?..bright sun, snap.
> good enough. all auto settings...they stay on for a few
> days..then some different ones.
>
> my web site is not the cover of national geographic.
> mel
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
>
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Helen Bates on sat 28 jul 07
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:08:19 -0400, Hollis
wrote:
Yes, it would be great if there was a correct address for Mel at the bottom
of the Clayart e-mails, or none at all...
>And PS: I tried to send this direct to the melpots@pclink.com address,
>but it kept bouncing back.
Maybe, with Mel's help, the new techie at Acers could check into this???
Helen
mel jacobson on sat 28 jul 07
this is a very old topic, and hard to come to grips with.
i have always felt that when taking pix of shinny, glossy pots
we should have a few hot spots...what the hell, you are
taking pix of glossy pots.
why put dull spray on them? they are glossy.
i don't want folks to think the pots are matt finish.
the only way i can solve the dilemma is to
shoot very slow, low light...with the lights pulled
back...so:
f32 for 19 seconds
you just cannot use the auto settings on
your camera when shooting glossy pots.
i use natural sun florescent bulbs. low power.
concrete floor and a good tripod.
for my web work...who cares?..bright sun, snap.
good enough. all auto settings...they stay on for a few
days..then some different ones.
my web site is not the cover of national geographic.
mel
from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
Clayart page link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
Helen Bates on sat 28 jul 07
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:24:07 -0500, mel jacobson wrote:
>i have always felt that when taking pix of shinny, glossy pots
>we should have a few hot spots...what the hell, you are
>taking pix of glossy pots.
>why put dull spray on them? they are glossy.
>i don't want folks to think the pots are matt finish.
Hi Mel,
Just for fun, I've collected the urls of a number of shiny or glossy pots'
photos uploaded to the web. These are usually from sites trying to sell
pots, unlike your purpose of showing Clayarters what you've been working on
lately.
http://www.fugio.com/images/furnishings/LombokPottery1.jpg
http://southwestpottery.com/images/michael.jpg
http://www.dargate.com/239_auction/239_images/1140.jpg
http://www.snr-antiques.com/robinsonset.JPG
http://www.lins-antiques.com/photos/3142x.jpg
http://www.antiqueobsession.com/photos/uncategorized/mexican_ceramic_bird.JPG
http://www.dexpix.com/robson/shiny_hakeme_vase.jpg
http://www.clayartbotanica.com/images/Pre-Showcase06_Pottery_003.jpg
http://www.nouramartinidesign.co.uk/tableware/images/spottybowl01.jpg
http://www.freeformsusa.com/ceramics/palshus/2largel.jpg
http://www.ragoarts.com/onlinecats/05.02AC/057.jpg
http://www.ragoarts.com/onlinecats/09.02AC/011.jpg
http://www.pips-trip.co.uk/webupload/PIPSTRIP/CUSTOM/GERMANCERAMICS/SMALL/img_9093.jpg
http://www.ettc.net/njarts/examples/PoillonGreenVase350w.jpg
http://www.dargate.com/240_auction/240_images/2575.jpg
http://www.designed-in-finland.com/artceramics/hovisaari_064.jpg
http://sourcing.tdctrade.com/hkei/productlibrary/fullImages/01024485182000269-000002.jpg
http://wisconsinpottery.org/Cliftwood/cliftwood-2.jpg
http://www.homesteadheritage-pottery.com/images/gl_cranberry_200.jpg
I could have included some that were of shiny pots but may have been sprayed
or shot through some muslin or tulle (like Doris Day) but I thought I'd
focus on images where the hot spots are there, but well-handled.
Helen
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Helen Bates
Belleville, Ontario, Canada
Clayarters' URLs: http://amsterlaw.com/clayart/
John Kudlacek on sat 28 jul 07
I did not mean to suggest one would spray the whole pot with whatever. I
simply used a light brushing of rubber cement to tone down annoying
hotspot. Even if one were to totally obliterate the hot spot, there are
still plenty of secondary reflections that reveal the pot's glossy
character.
John K.
Lois Ruben Aronow on sun 29 jul 07
Gloss is not necessarily a bad thing. The tricky part is being able to tell
the difference between gloss and glare.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> mel jacobson
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:24 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: hot spots/photography
>
> this is a very old topic, and hard to come to grips with.
>
> i have always felt that when taking pix of shinny, glossy
> pots we should have a few hot spots...what the hell, you are
> taking pix of glossy pots.
> why put dull spray on them? they are glossy.
> i don't want folks to think the pots are matt finish.
>
> the only way i can solve the dilemma is to shoot very slow,
> low light...with the lights pulled
> back...so:
> f32 for 19 seconds
> you just cannot use the auto settings on your camera when
> shooting glossy pots.
>
> i use natural sun florescent bulbs. low power.
> concrete floor and a good tripod.
>
> for my web work...who cares?..bright sun, snap.
> good enough. all auto settings...they stay on for a few
> days..then some different ones.
>
> my web site is not the cover of national geographic.
> mel
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
>
> Clayart page link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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Arnold Howard on tue 31 jul 07
From: "mel jacobson"
> i have always felt that when taking pix of shinny, glossy
> pots
> we should have a few hot spots...what the hell, you are
> taking pix of glossy pots.
> why put dull spray on them? they are glossy.
I love specular highlights too. You can control the size of
highlights in a photo by adjusting the light source. A small
light will produce a pinpoint highlight on a glazed surface.
A large panel will produce a beautiful long highlight that
separates the pot from the background.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
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